Forum Read Marking

***craig5320*** · Oct 13, 2009, 03:56 PM

Due to changes in vB, the forum read and cookie system may be showing all topics as being unread.

Simply follow this link: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/forumdis...hp?do=markread which will mark all topics read and you can start from today as it was previously.

Thanks

Dude111 · Oct 14, 2009, 12:10 AM

Thank you Craig.....

Database thread tracking has always been enabled here if im not mistaken.. (Since i have been here anyway as i always had to MARK ALL READ after my session to reset my status on threads)

***craig5320*** · Oct 14, 2009, 12:16 AM

I'm afraid you're mistaken, we've always used inactivity based cookie marking previously.

Dude111 · Oct 14, 2009, 12:29 AM

Hehe ya mean i was marking the bases read for no reason??

Hehehe oh well,alot of sites have D.T.T. enabled now so i just got used to doing it..... (Isnt that heavy on the database having it enabled?)

Site looks good my friend

I had to reset my skin this time...... (Along with some other options)

**MIG-31** · Oct 14, 2009, 06:50 AM

I don't like this new style....

I always prefered the way when i post a new thread it would show up in the new post and my cp... I have always used that for a quicer access if it was required....

So i take it new posts from me will only show up if someone replies to it ?

***craig5320*** · Oct 14, 2009, 09:21 AM

If you've posted the thread, then yes it will be "read" until some add's something you haven't seen. That's the way it should work. I'm not sure what you mean about it showing up in your cp tho.

**MIG-31** · Oct 14, 2009, 04:26 PM

Then thats something i will need to get used too.....

I usually have two pages open,One i use for "New Posts" which i refresh every 5 minds or so...

And i use the second page that i use to post anything on the forum.

Since yesterday any new post i made don't show up in my CP...Which i thought would of been different to the open forums..

So does this work in the same way.

EDIT.As this thread has a couple of posts,This thread was showing up in my cp until i have just posted this reply.. This thread has disappeared. (Unless thats how that works also)

The old way was by far the best to see what new posts are submitted..

Tyrsonswood · Oct 14, 2009, 07:02 PM

While it's different and I've had to adjust my method for reading posts/keeping track of things a little bit, this new method does synch my various machines accurately. That's a plus!

Great work on the upgrades all around!!!

Zardon · Oct 14, 2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIG-31

EDIT.As this thread has a couple of posts,This thread was showing up in my cp until i have just posted this reply.. This thread has disappeared. (Unless thats how that works also)

The old way was by far the best to see what new posts are submitted..

Actually the old way didn't make as much sense. Your posts immediately after submitting won't show in 'new posts' as you have already posted it and seen it. It only shows new posts for things you haven't read yet. if someone posts after your post it will reappear again, showing you that you should read it to catch up.

If you think about it, it makes a lot of sense.

**MIG-31** · Oct 14, 2009, 07:19 PM

Its not a case of misunderstanding the new system...over a little time it's becoming clear to how it works...

I guess i have been here to long now (7 years) and was used to the system how it was..And to be honest i still prefer the older style..

Im sure this may grow on me over the next day or two,Its just the quick alteration has thrown me a little..

Its no big issue...

Zardon · Oct 14, 2009, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIG-31

Its not a case of misunderstanding the new system...over a little time it's becoming clear to how it works...

I guess i have been here to long now (7 years) and was used to the system how it was..And to be honest i still prefer the older style..

Im sure this may grow on me over the next day or two,Its just the quick alteration has thrown me a little..

Its no big issue...

Well I assumed when you said "(Unless thats how that works also)" you didn't actually know why it did it - thats why I explained it.

If you prefer seeing all your own posts, even if you posted last in a thread, then yes the old system was better, but sometimes getting used to something illogical isnt necessarily the way it should always be. I am older than you so technically I should have more issues with it

**MIG-31** · Oct 14, 2009, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

Well I assumed when you said "(Unless thats how that works also)" you didn't actually know why it did it - thats why I explained it.

Yes i did but that was a few hours ago... A small amount of time makes that little bit of difference..

Zardon · Oct 14, 2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIG-31

Yes i did but that was a few hours ago... A small amount of time makes that little bit of difference..

good to hear, but "edit" post is still the same as before

**MIG-31** · Oct 14, 2009, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

good to hear, but "edit" post is still the same as before

Very funny.... i detect a hint of sarcasm..

Dude111 · Oct 15, 2009, 03:23 AM

Actually i dont know why anyone would choose to have DATABASE THREAD TRACKING enabled as it uses ALOT OF STORAGE to store everyones read status..

On the other hand if your IN A HURRY AND CANT READ EVERYTHING ON 1 SESSION THATS NEW,you can always login again later and still see all the new BOLD threads

Zardon · Oct 15, 2009, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111

Actually i dont know why anyone would choose to have DATABASE THREAD TRACKING enabled as it uses ALOT OF STORAGE to store everyones read status..

Craig could answer that, but I doubt it uses 'a lot of storage'. however its slightly unrelated as we don't need to worry about storage, we have a full rack of servers with more than enough storage for all our sites. If we think something is going to benefit the public we will use it.

comp_ali · Oct 15, 2009, 09:10 AM

I like the new method . No longer read posts appear for me as unread

CDsDontBurn · Oct 16, 2009, 02:52 AM

i prefer the old system as well.

other forums i visit have been using this type of system that DH just implemented, and i've never really liked it. now, DH is doing it so i guess i gotta learn to like it, lol.

OldBuzzard · Oct 17, 2009, 06:14 PM

I'm with CDs on this.

The old way made it much easier to see new posts.

mkk · Oct 17, 2009, 09:34 PM

Ah, so that's why I have had a wee bit of trouble finding some threads lately. I can relearn but I used to live by the new posts list, hardly ever venturing into the forum tree. I just assumed there were some minor database problems after the move and didn't think more of it.

**MIG-31** · Oct 17, 2009, 10:00 PM

As this style has been running for several days now... I do see the the reasons DH brought this format into the forums..

But im sorry to say the old style was far easier to navigate and Far easier to see what was being posted.

Having to go through the indevidual forums takes up far more time.

Its your site you have to look after and aim to bring in the best for the site..

Have you thought about making one or two changes ,Be asked by a public Poll... Just a thought .

CDsDontBurn · Oct 18, 2009, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIG-31

As this style has been running for several days now... I do see the the reasons DH brought this format into the forums..

But im sorry to say the old style was far easier to navigate and Far easier to see what was being posted.

Having to go through the indevidual forums takes up far more time.

Its your site you have to look after and aim to bring in the best for the site..

Have you thought about making one or two changes ,Be asked by a public Poll... Just a thought .

i have found that within the user CP, if you click on the "view all subscribed threads" link in the bottom right hand side (highlighted in red), that you will be able to see all threads you have ever posted in or subscribed to.

all new posts will be bolded by forum default when you first look at your user CP. we all know that once we look in a thread that has a new post, that as soon as we refresh the user CP these threads will go away. well, by clicking on the "view all subscribed threads" it will bring back all the threads you've ever posted in.

not sure how to get around this in the "new posts" link section of the forum though, but that's what works for the user CP.

***craig5320*** · Oct 18, 2009, 11:18 PM

If there's not been any new posts in your subscribed thread then there isn't really a need for it to be shown, because it's read. As CD's said you can click View All to see a list of ones without new content.

If you want to quickly see your posts click the "Your Posts" link.

~~CitySlicker~~ · Oct 19, 2009, 01:04 AM

this morning I read Zardon's review about that 620W psu without commenting (not subscribed to) - now, I return and that thread is gone forever? - can I make it re-appear?

I doubt we currently have a smart read system in place here...

Tyrsonswood · Oct 19, 2009, 01:25 AM

It's not "gone", you just have to go find it in the forum.... That thread should be under DH News......

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/dh-revie...review-dh.html

I think that's the one you want.....

~~CitySlicker~~ · Oct 19, 2009, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

It's not "gone", you just have to go find it....

I found it under DH Reviews

However, since I usually find threads via New Post Search I hardly remember every single thread I read in which particular forum it was.

It would be no issue if my thread notification (new post) would work but my problem simply is ignored here for whatever reason. All I can say it is not on my end since other forums I participate in do work fine in this regard. I assume a gmail account is no issue for DH? (at least it was no issue until the 16th october when DH notification worked last time for me)

**MIG-31** · Oct 19, 2009, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

i have found that within the user CP, if you click on the "view all subscribed threads" link in the bottom right hand side (highlighted in red), that you will be able to see all threads you have ever posted in or subscribed to.

all new posts will be bolded by forum default when you first look at your user CP. we all know that once we look in a thread that has a new post, that as soon as we refresh the user CP these threads will go away. well, by clicking on the "view all subscribed threads" it will bring back all the threads you've ever posted in.

not sure how to get around this in the "new posts" link section of the forum though, but that's what works for the user CP.

I already know those optins are already there...Thanks any way.

***craig5320*** · Oct 19, 2009, 12:45 PM

You can also click "Today's Posts" under the quick links menu at the top, which will show you all posts from the last 24hours regardless of whether you read them.

So combined with New Posts, View Your Posts, and Today's Post. I really can't see the problem. It's a fully functional and accurate system.

Why would an old post you've seen, appear in a new post list? where's the logic in that? Just use the Today's Posts link.

You can subscribe to a thread without replying, so subscribe to it. If it's got new posts since you subscribed it'll show in your CP. If it hasn't been updated you can view it by clicking View All Subscribed Threads.

**MIG-31** · Oct 19, 2009, 05:10 PM

Sorry if you think im complaining about the style... Im not...

Actually its not a bad system now that im starting to get used to it..

Oct 13, 2009, 03:56 PM	#1
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,565 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	Forum Read Marking Due to changes in vB, the forum read and cookie system may be showing all topics as being unread. Simply follow this link: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/forumdis...hp?do=markread which will mark all topics read and you can start from today as it was previously. Thanks __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Oct 14, 2009, 12:16 AM	Thread Starter #3
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Oct 14, 2009, 06:50 AM	#5
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,818 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	Re: Forum Read Marking I don't like this new style.... I always prefered the way when i post a new thread it would show up in the new post and my cp... I have always used that for a quicer access if it was required.... So i take it new posts from me will only show up if someone replies to it ? __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

Oct 14, 2009, 09:21 AM	Thread Starter #6
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,565 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	Re: Forum Read Marking If you've posted the thread, then yes it will be "read" until some add's something you haven't seen. That's the way it should work. I'm not sure what you mean about it showing up in your cp tho. __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Oct 14, 2009, 04:26 PM	#7
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,818 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	Re: Forum Read Marking Then thats something i will need to get used too..... I usually have two pages open,One i use for "New Posts" which i refresh every 5 minds or so... And i use the second page that i use to post anything on the forum. Since yesterday any new post i made don't show up in my CP...Which i thought would of been different to the open forums.. So does this work in the same way. EDIT.As this thread has a couple of posts,This thread was showing up in my cp until i have just posted this reply.. This thread has disappeared. (Unless thats how that works also) The old way was by far the best to see what new posts are submitted.. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here Last edited by MIG-31; Oct 14, 2009 at 04:37 PM.

Oct 14, 2009, 12:10 AM	#2
Dude111 An Awesome Dude Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 425 Rep Power: 61	Thank you Craig..... Database thread tracking has always been enabled here if im not mistaken.. (Since i have been here anyway as i always had to MARK ALL READ after my session to reset my status on threads)

Oct 14, 2009, 12:29 AM	#4
Dude111 An Awesome Dude Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 425 Rep Power: 61	Hehe ya mean i was marking the bases read for no reason?? Hehehe oh well,alot of sites have D.T.T. enabled now so i just got used to doing it..... (Isnt that heavy on the database having it enabled?) Site looks good my friend I had to reset my skin this time...... (Along with some other options)

Oct 14, 2009, 07:19 PM	#10
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,818 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	Re: Forum Read Marking Its not a case of misunderstanding the new system...over a little time it's becoming clear to how it works... I guess i have been here to long now (7 years) and was used to the system how it was..And to be honest i still prefer the older style.. Im sure this may grow on me over the next day or two,Its just the quick alteration has thrown me a little.. Its no big issue... __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

Oct 15, 2009, 03:23 AM	#15
Dude111 An Awesome Dude Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 425 Rep Power: 61	Actually i dont know why anyone would choose to have DATABASE THREAD TRACKING enabled as it uses ALOT OF STORAGE to store everyones read status.. On the other hand if your IN A HURRY AND CANT READ EVERYTHING ON 1 SESSION THATS NEW,you can always login again later and still see all the new BOLD threads

Oct 15, 2009, 09:10 AM	#17
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: Forum Read Marking I like the new method . No longer read posts appear for me as unread __________________

Oct 16, 2009, 02:52 AM	#18
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	Re: Forum Read Marking i prefer the old system as well. other forums i visit have been using this type of system that DH just implemented, and i've never really liked it. now, DH is doing it so i guess i gotta learn to like it, lol. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Oct 17, 2009, 06:14 PM	#19
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,781 Rep Power: 142 System Specs	Re: Forum Read Marking I'm with CDs on this. The old way made it much easier to see new posts. __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

Oct 17, 2009, 09:34 PM	#20
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,489 Rep Power: 132 System Specs	Re: Forum Read Marking Ah, so that's why I have had a wee bit of trouble finding some threads lately. I can relearn but I used to live by the new posts list, hardly ever venturing into the forum tree. I just assumed there were some minor database problems after the move and didn't think more of it.

Oct 17, 2009, 10:00 PM	#21
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,818 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	Re: Forum Read Marking As this style has been running for several days now... I do see the the reasons DH brought this format into the forums.. But im sorry to say the old style was far easier to navigate and Far easier to see what was being posted. Having to go through the indevidual forums takes up far more time. Its your site you have to look after and aim to bring in the best for the site.. Have you thought about making one or two changes ,Be asked by a public Poll... Just a thought . __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here Last edited by MIG-31; Oct 17, 2009 at 10:07 PM.

Oct 18, 2009, 11:18 PM	Thread Starter #23
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,565 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	Re: Forum Read Marking If there's not been any new posts in your subscribed thread then there isn't really a need for it to be shown, because it's read. As CD's said you can click View All to see a list of ones without new content. If you want to quickly see your posts click the "Your Posts" link. Attached Thumbnails __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Oct 19, 2009, 01:04 AM	#24
~~CitySlicker~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 183 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Forum Read Marking this morning I read Zardon's review about that 620W psu without commenting (not subscribed to) - now, I return and that thread is gone forever? - can I make it re-appear? I doubt we currently have a smart read system in place here...

Oct 19, 2009, 12:45 PM	Thread Starter #28
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,565 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	Re: Forum Read Marking You can also click "Today's Posts" under the quick links menu at the top, which will show you all posts from the last 24hours regardless of whether you read them. So combined with New Posts, View Your Posts, and Today's Post. I really can't see the problem. It's a fully functional and accurate system. Why would an old post you've seen, appear in a new post list? where's the logic in that? Just use the Today's Posts link. You can subscribe to a thread without replying, so subscribe to it. If it's got new posts since you subscribed it'll show in your CP. If it hasn't been updated you can view it by clicking View All Subscribed Threads. __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Oct 19, 2009, 05:10 PM	#29
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,818 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	Re: Forum Read Marking Sorry if you think im complaining about the style... Im not... Actually its not a bad system now that im starting to get used to it.. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here