site connection/issues

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 20, 2003, 08:56 PM

figured i'd let you guys now whats been going on recently.... some apreas to be dh others apear to be internet routing issues @ the east you should know about this...

i been getting this alot

sometimes i just hit refresh and i back in bussiness sometime a gota wait a little bit

some times i'm getting total failers when i click to open a thread or when showing up @ the site

nothing site gone?

drum roll ..neotrace.. says ... site gone!.site gone!

about a minute later

back but with extreme routing (i added the start point)

No_Style · Dec 20, 2003, 09:16 PM

I'm guessing.. the server is being hit too hard and they stop people for awhile. I know several sites that do that. Wincustomize.org is one. Either that or routing issues like you said.

Judas · Dec 20, 2003, 09:26 PM

i've had the occasional server busy..... but a simple refresh works... it only happened when the cats came out..

Andrew275 · Dec 20, 2003, 09:55 PM

We had a couple of DoS problems earlier today.

River · Dec 22, 2003, 02:58 PM

not sure what the problem is, but for well over a week this site has been very, v-e-r-y slow, and I'm talking like 28k modem slow, and I have cable!

other sites, large ones, load right up in a couple of seconds, this site has been averaging about 12 to 15 seconds just for the home page to load, then if you want to go any where within the site, same wait, or longer.

previously this site would load right up, no wait at all..I'm curious, what's up?

Zardon · Dec 22, 2003, 03:04 PM

I have no idea whats up, the site has generally been very fast (apart from some related DOS attacks, ad problems) so its either a routing issue to your computer via your ISP or something else.

We are also getting alot of hits........ but is certainly not generally "28k speed", thats not server related.

River · Dec 22, 2003, 03:16 PM

I just ran NeoTrace, not sure what to look for in the map, but I live in Salem Oregon. the trace goes to Eugene Oregon, then north to Seattle, back to Eugene, then to San Jose, Ca., all in a blink of an eye, then on to Dallas, Tx., but it takes a second or two to register there, then the green line goes out in to the gulf of Mexico and ends with a question mark?

craigmci · Dec 22, 2003, 03:57 PM

super slow here too in new brunswick canada,im on 3mb dsl ,only site i have issues with also?

Zardon · Dec 22, 2003, 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by craigmci
super slow here too in new brunswick canada,im on 3mb dsl ,only site i have issues with also?

yes right now its a little slower than normally mainly due to the fact that omega has just released a driver set (we host the omega site on the same server), and we have several popular articles up - the opteron processor review - linked from hardocp and inquirer along with the 9800 XT v 5950 reviews linked also from many sites sometimes with up to 1 million hits a day in total.. We also had a dos attack yesterday which may explain the problems then.

As ive previously explained on many occasions the server has to cope with this load as well - so if its a little slower than normal which it is right now, just bear with it. It took me 4 seconds to get into this thread from the front page and server loads arent excessively high.

I plan on moving the main site to a dual processor setup next year so if you want to help with this, then donate or click some ads or intellitxt links front page.

craigmci · Dec 22, 2003, 04:47 PM

yeah,im not really trying to complain or anything,just thought id throw in that its also slow for me,its good to seee others are experiencing same difficulties when you are ,it is for me anyway seeing as im fairly new to pcs.Love your site only been using about 3 weeks now,if i think ill be sticking around ill definately donate,i have recieved many fast responses to problems i ve posted and rarely never got an answer to my question!T his seems like a great community,very knowledgeable and helpful,many thanks to the work you guys put into to keeping it going!!What is your average donation anyway,and can you use american express instead of paypal?ive already looked at donations page yes

Zardon · Dec 22, 2003, 05:03 PM

Thanks Craig nice to hear you are enjoying the site - hopefully the wonderful community here help alot of people - we have some fanastic members, ive seen you posting lately and its nice to see some new active people posting on DH ----- and your comments arent taken as complaints, I know its slow and its frustrating at times, really this server is at its maximum output, and while its got a nice fat pipe it could do with a CPU upgrade. I hopefully will do so in the new year with as minimum downtime as possible.

I cant accept credit card, im not a business, so only paypal or snail mail really. if you want to send something PM me and we can work something out. anyone else who cant afford a donation, keep clicking the ads !

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 22, 2003, 09:42 PM

but i've been seeing connection issues and slowness for @ least the last week all time on the day/night spuratically. it comes and goes.. some others are haveng the same issues..

Zardon · Dec 22, 2003, 09:43 PM

sighs.

I think ive explained everything. its either temporary cases of

1: routing.
2: the server load
3: cpu cant cope
4: too many hits
5: ISP.

or all of the above.

right now its perfectly fine here, everypage loading in 2 seconds. server loads are UNDER 1. line is 70% of T3.

River · Dec 22, 2003, 10:10 PM

I'm on Comcast cable, have great connection...to load DH.net takes about 45 seconds today, as it has for past four or five days. to load espn.com takes 3 seconds, other large sites 3 seconds or faster.

the slowest site to load that I visit recently is themexp.org and only takes about 8 seconds.

even when new Cat drivers come out and the site is busier than ever with people loading up looking for the download, the site still always loaded fast, but not lately.

just observations, not a complaint, no need to respond, already see what is being stated as possible reasons.

funny how once we get use to a 2 second load time, how 43 seconds can start to bother a person, but we are always in a hurry, want every thing faster, and faster.

like right now...I clicked on "Submit Reply" and while I was waiting for it to post this reply I had time to reread what I wrote, find an error, click on "stop" to stop the page from loading, correct the error and then click "Submit Reply" again and let it finally post the reply.
* hoping Zardon doesn't sigh again

Zardon · Dec 22, 2003, 10:17 PM

ok for the possibility this thread is going to keep going on forever im going to close it. any site problems, ad errors or problems which we will need to know about please start a new thread.

ive explained in detail the site is slower than usual due to the thousands of hits a minute/omegas drivers and popular articles we have but you still all seem to be telling me its slow when I already know it is !

Anyway if the site is taking 45 seconds to load then it must be a routing issue, its taking for me between 2 and 15 seconds maximum a page and the bandwidth is under the limit. the cpu is struggling in phases with the hit rate, so all you can all do is just smile, think of your christmas presents and bear it. the server cant physically do anymore, its maxxed to the hilt. until I upgrade it, this will be a recurring problem. the site has expanded beyond whatever I initially thought it would be. from being hosted on a shared 500 meg plan with ventureonlines. to the dedicated t3 line / 3 server network it is today.

Scary to think its still not enough, eh? Hopefully it will be upgraded soon. Sorry I cant be of more help, but there is nothing we can do to get more speed from it !

merry christmas !

Dec 20, 2003, 08:56 PM	#1
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	site connection/issues figured i'd let you guys now whats been going on recently.... some apreas to be dh others apear to be internet routing issues @ the east you should know about this... i been getting this alot sometimes i just hit refresh and i back in bussiness sometime a gota wait a little bit some times i'm getting total failers when i click to open a thread or when showing up @ the site nothing site gone? drum roll ..neotrace.. says ... site gone!.site gone! about a minute later back but with extreme routing (i added the start point) __________________

Dec 20, 2003, 09:16 PM	#2
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	It happens to me too.. I'm guessing.. the server is being hit too hard and they stop people for awhile. I know several sites that do that. Wincustomize.org is one. Either that or routing issues like you said. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

Dec 22, 2003, 02:58 PM	#5
River -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 174 Rep Power: 0	for over a week now DH slow not sure what the problem is, but for well over a week this site has been very, v-e-r-y slow, and I'm talking like 28k modem slow, and I have cable! other sites, large ones, load right up in a couple of seconds, this site has been averaging about 12 to 15 seconds just for the home page to load, then if you want to go any where within the site, same wait, or longer. previously this site would load right up, no wait at all..I'm curious, what's up? __________________ Dell Dimension 4550 P4, 2.4ghz, 533mhz FSB 1gig ddr ATI Radeon 9700TX, 128mb DDR 17" digital flat panel Harmon Kardon speakers SoundBlaster Live 5.1 Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse Intel Pro/100 VE Windows XP Pro "did you want cheese with that?"

Dec 22, 2003, 03:16 PM	#7
River -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 174 Rep Power: 0	only happens with DH I just ran NeoTrace, not sure what to look for in the map, but I live in Salem Oregon. the trace goes to Eugene Oregon, then north to Seattle, back to Eugene, then to San Jose, Ca., all in a blink of an eye, then on to Dallas, Tx., but it takes a second or two to register there, then the green line goes out in to the gulf of Mexico and ends with a question mark? __________________ Dell Dimension 4550 P4, 2.4ghz, 533mhz FSB 1gig ddr ATI Radeon 9700TX, 128mb DDR 17" digital flat panel Harmon Kardon speakers SoundBlaster Live 5.1 Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse Intel Pro/100 VE Windows XP Pro "did you want cheese with that?"

Dec 22, 2003, 09:42 PM	Thread Starter #12
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	but i've been seeing connection issues and slowness for @ least the last week all time on the day/night spuratically. it comes and goes.. some others are haveng the same issues.. __________________

Dec 20, 2003, 09:55 PM	#4
Andrew275 Custom User Title Join Date: May 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 1,125 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	We had a couple of DoS problems earlier today.

Dec 22, 2003, 03:04 PM	#6
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	I have no idea whats up, the site has generally been very fast (apart from some related DOS attacks, ad problems) so its either a routing issue to your computer via your ISP or something else. We are also getting alot of hits........ but is certainly not generally "28k speed", thats not server related.

Dec 22, 2003, 03:57 PM	#8
craigmci DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: canada Posts: 95 Rep Power: 0	super slow here too in new brunswick canada,im on 3mb dsl ,only site i have issues with also?

Dec 22, 2003, 04:47 PM	#10
craigmci DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: canada Posts: 95 Rep Power: 0	yeah,im not really trying to complain or anything,just thought id throw in that its also slow for me,its good to seee others are experiencing same difficulties when you are ,it is for me anyway seeing as im fairly new to pcs.Love your site only been using about 3 weeks now,if i think ill be sticking around ill definately donate,i have recieved many fast responses to problems i ve posted and rarely never got an answer to my question!T his seems like a great community,very knowledgeable and helpful,many thanks to the work you guys put into to keeping it going!!What is your average donation anyway,and can you use american express instead of paypal?ive already looked at donations page yes

Dec 22, 2003, 05:03 PM	#11
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Thanks Craig nice to hear you are enjoying the site - hopefully the wonderful community here help alot of people - we have some fanastic members, ive seen you posting lately and its nice to see some new active people posting on DH ----- and your comments arent taken as complaints, I know its slow and its frustrating at times, really this server is at its maximum output, and while its got a nice fat pipe it could do with a CPU upgrade. I hopefully will do so in the new year with as minimum downtime as possible. I cant accept credit card, im not a business, so only paypal or snail mail really. if you want to send something PM me and we can work something out. anyone else who cant afford a donation, keep clicking the ads !

Dec 22, 2003, 09:43 PM	#13
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	sighs. I think ive explained everything. its either temporary cases of 1: routing. 2: the server load 3: cpu cant cope 4: too many hits 5: ISP. or all of the above. right now its perfectly fine here, everypage loading in 2 seconds. server loads are UNDER 1. line is 70% of T3.

Dec 22, 2003, 10:10 PM	#14
River -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Salem, Oregon Posts: 174 Rep Power: 0	not a complaint, just informing I'm on Comcast cable, have great connection...to load DH.net takes about 45 seconds today, as it has for past four or five days. to load espn.com takes 3 seconds, other large sites 3 seconds or faster. the slowest site to load that I visit recently is themexp.org and only takes about 8 seconds. even when new Cat drivers come out and the site is busier than ever with people loading up looking for the download, the site still always loaded fast, but not lately. just observations, not a complaint, no need to respond, already see what is being stated as possible reasons. funny how once we get use to a 2 second load time, how 43 seconds can start to bother a person, but we are always in a hurry, want every thing faster, and faster. like right now...I clicked on "Submit Reply" and while I was waiting for it to post this reply I had time to reread what I wrote, find an error, click on "stop" to stop the page from loading, correct the error and then click "Submit Reply" again and let it finally post the reply. * hoping Zardon doesn't sigh again __________________ Dell Dimension 4550 P4, 2.4ghz, 533mhz FSB 1gig ddr ATI Radeon 9700TX, 128mb DDR 17" digital flat panel Harmon Kardon speakers SoundBlaster Live 5.1 Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse Intel Pro/100 VE Windows XP Pro "did you want cheese with that?"

Dec 22, 2003, 10:17 PM	#15
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	ok for the possibility this thread is going to keep going on forever im going to close it. any site problems, ad errors or problems which we will need to know about please start a new thread. ive explained in detail the site is slower than usual due to the thousands of hits a minute/omegas drivers and popular articles we have but you still all seem to be telling me its slow when I already know it is ! Anyway if the site is taking 45 seconds to load then it must be a routing issue, its taking for me between 2 and 15 seconds maximum a page and the bandwidth is under the limit. the cpu is struggling in phases with the hit rate, so all you can all do is just smile, think of your christmas presents and bear it. the server cant physically do anymore, its maxxed to the hilt. until I upgrade it, this will be a recurring problem. the site has expanded beyond whatever I initially thought it would be. from being hosted on a shared 500 meg plan with ventureonlines. to the dedicated t3 line / 3 server network it is today. Scary to think its still not enough, eh? Hopefully it will be upgraded soon. Sorry I cant be of more help, but there is nothing we can do to get more speed from it ! merry christmas !