Pop ups!!

OnDborder · Dec 25, 2003, 06:38 AM

Don't mean to gripe, cuz this is one of my favorite sites, but..

What's with the assault of pop ups tonight on this forum?
One right after the other. One of them sets off my a/v protection...

Jeff · Dec 25, 2003, 06:46 AM

:o

There is only one popup, if your firewall or A/V software is blocking cookies, it may prevent the ad from checking if it already showed the popup once.

~~tenndevil~~ · Dec 25, 2003, 03:51 PM

no joke, I get the one and then an error pop-up right after, about scripts

sinjin · Dec 25, 2003, 04:02 PM

people that donate to the site shouldnt have to deal with a full screen assault with pop-up ads.

PoopyTheJ · Dec 25, 2003, 04:02 PM

use spybot S&D, make sure it's got the latest update then immunize, voila, no popups. Of course you could switch to a real browser like opera or firebird instead of the gaping security hole which is IE and not have to worry about it.

Zardon · Dec 25, 2003, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sinjin
people that donate to the site shouldnt have to deal with a full screen assault with pop-up ads.

its one pop under ad which runs on a cookie system, sorry you are annoyed.

ill look into disabling ads for donators at some stage, not sure of the complications it will add in coding.

studbagel9 · Dec 25, 2003, 04:59 PM

Zardon, fileplanet does that with subscribers... I wonder if they'd tell ou how to do it? Probably not as they are a major corporate conglomerate and those are like... trade secrets, but it might be worth a shot?

Andrew275 · Dec 25, 2003, 05:48 PM

It should be pretty easy to do, I can do it if you want me to.

sinjin · Dec 25, 2003, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
its one pop under ad which runs on a cookie system, sorry you are annoyed.

i wasnt looking for an apology...was just shocked to see those types of blunt force ads show up while on dh...hell, it even added itself as my home page.

Jeff · Dec 25, 2003, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sinjin
i wasnt looking for an apology...was just shocked to see those types of blunt force ads show up while on dh...hell, it even added itself as my home page.

that would make me mad too, I don't think we're supposed to have any ads like that in the rotation.

Zardon · Dec 25, 2003, 06:25 PM

everyone is getting mad...... nothing new there then.

the code for popups is only on the front page - for one popup, sites like omegacorner and many other tech sites have numerous popups, ive even been on sites where there are popups on the forum !!! .. no one hates them more than me, but for those of you who havent ran a site like this, it costs a substantial bit of money. also those of you who remember when DH started I ran the site for months without any ads with the hope people would like it and donate to help cover costs. They didnt, apart from a few like sinjin, therefore I had to look into getting an ad host. You know running a site like this is in some respects quite a dirty game - the ads cause so many site performance issues and they also get people so pissed off I get hate mail, one guy even saw an Nvidia ad and said I was a sell out, go figure, the ads are run from an ad company who get the best deals then pass on a small percentage to help cover costs.

ill run this site so as I dont start losing money, simple as that. This is the first time ive heard from a donator that the ads are annoying, so ill look into it. There is also a PM function to talk to me directly, sometimes thats a nice option - certainly helps us improve your experience of the site.

I am also not aware of any forced popups making DH your home site. ive had to email the ad company about gator and a few other things, and im getting frustrated its out of my hands too, ill pass on the comments about that pop up as well.

sinjin · Dec 25, 2003, 06:25 PM

skull, zardon?

Zardon · Dec 25, 2003, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sinjin
skull, zardon?

I was in his account resetting options, he cant get into the forum. ISP problems I think, ive had to do this before - dont know what the issue is. ive already mentioned it to the other admins.

sinjin · Dec 25, 2003, 06:27 PM

i need to lay off the egg nog for awhile....

Zardon · Dec 25, 2003, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sinjin
i need to lay off the egg nog for awhile....

you guys eat egg nog? what the hell is it anyway?

sinjin · Dec 25, 2003, 06:47 PM

actually, we drink it.

usually its just beaten egg yolks, sugar, rum, brandy and cream. you can add the egg whites (chilled and folded) to the top....

Zardon · Dec 25, 2003, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sinjin
actually, we drink it.

usually its just beaten egg yolks, sugar, rum, brandy and cream. you can add the egg whites (chilled and folded) to the top....

doesnt sound too bad, I like white russians. havent drank at ALL today !

sinjin · Dec 25, 2003, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
havent drank at ALL today !

/me fears the worst....looks above to see if the sky might be falling...or maybe the apolocypse is looming close?

PoopyTheJ · Dec 25, 2003, 09:40 PM

The whole popups wanting to install software and crap is a bit much, I haven't donated yet although I'd like to, just haven't had the funds. Hopefully this week or so I will until such time however, yeah the popups are outta hand on a poorly configured rig, wanting to redirect you, advertising for sex, picking up singles, taking up the whole screen good lord Zardon the advertising group you use has gone off their rockers! I don't have to worry about pop-ups at home but yeah at work this is silly I couldn't even finish typing this post without multiple pop-ups! Grab some egg-nog and send em an Email, or some explosives. Jesus I just got a pop-up which opened a txt file warning me about spyware and it ejected the cd player on this rig.

mousemanone · Dec 25, 2003, 09:49 PM

these are the worst i have seen in a long time.i will stay off this site for a few days.if things do not change i will take this site from my daily use.

kinetic · Dec 25, 2003, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mousemanone
these are the worst i have seen in a long time.i will stay off this site for a few days.if things do not change i will take this site from my daily use.

Don't be so hasty! It's being looked into!

***craig5320*** · Dec 25, 2003, 10:58 PM

Well as Zardon has said, this is out of ours hands, the Ad provider has been contacted and hopefully we can rectify the situation.

Zardon · Dec 25, 2003, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mousemanone
these are the worst i have seen in a long time.i will stay off this site for a few days.if things do not change i will take this site from my daily use.

just bookmark the forum and not the front page, ive already said there the popunder isnt on the forum.

I wish everyone would relax, I said ive emailed the ad company but they arent likely to reply on christmas day. Ive also never seen any of these "malicious" popunders in IE - just simple best buy or similar ads, so I can only act when people tell me! if anyone can supply more information in email to me id appreciate it -- thankfully dyre has been very helpful with his thread in the feedback section so I can report exactly one of the problems - my email is always open for site related comments.

Dyre Straits · Dec 25, 2003, 11:34 PM

I'm not going anywhere. Just wanted to make the powers that be aware of the problem. It REALLY got bad the last couple of days.

I'm not even complaining about ADS per se. I know they're needed badly. But, they should be polite about how they treat the users. This one (or how many) that changes the default home page really is unacceptable, though. I know you'll take care of it.

I do have a hot link to just the forums when things like this develop.

Logla · Dec 25, 2003, 11:36 PM

I don't know if anyone else uses a little prog called popup ad filter which can be found at http://www.softpile.com/Internet/Bro...012_index.html

It filters out about 99% of all pop ups and unders and I have never had any probs with ads on DH whilst using it. It really works.

Zardon · Dec 25, 2003, 11:39 PM

yes we all know pop up killers but thats kind of defeating the point of me putting them there in the first place, im trying to get some revenue for a server upgrade logla. If everyone uses pop up killers then the site loses alot of money.

if the popunder is working right, it should only be one harmless popunder every so often which will give no problems. of course atm this isnt the case but hopefully in a few days it will be sorted.

Running a site like this sometimes isnt pleasant - any of you actually think I like ads?

sometimes I feel "dirty" myself, I have to ensure DH stays up and any possible upgrades we need (which we do need ) can be afforded.

Logla · Dec 25, 2003, 11:43 PM

Fair point.

Zardon · Dec 25, 2003, 11:46 PM

we are working on removing ads for donators (or the option to open in your profile), and ill get the current ad problems sorted out, its a constant headache for me, id much prefer we lost them completely - as ive said earlier today if the site was the same size it was in the first few months we opened then most of the feedback threads would be gone and id be left with the positive comments. having no ads is a fine theory for a small site which costs $10 a month on a shared server - and you frequently see the people running these size sites saying "oh no way would I have popunders or ads, it ruins the layout or we wont ever do it!", I learned with experience on that one as my bank balance was getting lower each month.

Between drivers, and main site hits, its quite costly now. Ads are the only way to pay for it. Its the way the net is now, and I hate it. Success has its burdens.

Logla · Dec 26, 2003, 12:01 AM

I'm sure there are always alternative solutions to little problems like this (sorry this methodology has been drilled into me by working for too many greedy corporate bodies). There are bound to be other ways to fund the site - donations being one of them. I shall put my money making business hat on for the next couple of weeks and see if I can come up with any ingenious cash generators (all ethical and legal of course).
Sometimes I even suprise myself so who knows what I may come up with.

~~craig588~~ · Dec 26, 2003, 12:02 AM

yeah, we are discoving that with our site. Ad banners just DONT earn money.

Dec 25, 2003, 06:38 AM	#1
OnDborder DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 222 Rep Power: 0	Pop ups!! Don't mean to gripe, cuz this is one of my favorite sites, but.. What's with the assault of pop ups tonight on this forum? One right after the other. One of them sets off my a/v protection...

Dec 25, 2003, 06:46 AM	#2
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	:o There is only one popup, if your firewall or A/V software is blocking cookies, it may prevent the ad from checking if it already showed the popup once. __________________

Dec 25, 2003, 04:02 PM	#4
sinjin the last samurai Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,086 Rep Power: 0	people that donate to the site shouldnt have to deal with a full screen assault with pop-up ads. __________________

Dec 25, 2003, 04:02 PM	#5
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	use spybot S&D, make sure it's got the latest update then immunize, voila, no popups. Of course you could switch to a real browser like opera or firebird instead of the gaping security hole which is IE and not have to worry about it. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Dec 25, 2003, 04:59 PM	#7
studbagel9 Rolling the Hard Six Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lock Haven, PA Posts: 767 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Zardon, fileplanet does that with subscribers... I wonder if they'd tell ou how to do it? Probably not as they are a major corporate conglomerate and those are like... trade secrets, but it might be worth a shot? __________________

Dec 25, 2003, 03:51 PM	#3
~~tenndevil~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 128 Rep Power: 0	no joke, I get the one and then an error pop-up right after, about scripts

Dec 25, 2003, 05:48 PM	#8
Andrew275 Custom User Title Join Date: May 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 1,125 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	It should be pretty easy to do, I can do it if you want me to.

Dec 25, 2003, 06:25 PM	#11
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	everyone is getting mad...... nothing new there then. the code for popups is only on the front page - for one popup, sites like omegacorner and many other tech sites have numerous popups, ive even been on sites where there are popups on the forum !!! .. no one hates them more than me, but for those of you who havent ran a site like this, it costs a substantial bit of money. also those of you who remember when DH started I ran the site for months without any ads with the hope people would like it and donate to help cover costs. They didnt, apart from a few like sinjin, therefore I had to look into getting an ad host. You know running a site like this is in some respects quite a dirty game - the ads cause so many site performance issues and they also get people so pissed off I get hate mail, one guy even saw an Nvidia ad and said I was a sell out, go figure, the ads are run from an ad company who get the best deals then pass on a small percentage to help cover costs. ill run this site so as I dont start losing money, simple as that. This is the first time ive heard from a donator that the ads are annoying, so ill look into it. There is also a PM function to talk to me directly, sometimes thats a nice option - certainly helps us improve your experience of the site. I am also not aware of any forced popups making DH your home site. ive had to email the ad company about gator and a few other things, and im getting frustrated its out of my hands too, ill pass on the comments about that pop up as well.

Dec 25, 2003, 06:25 PM	#12
sinjin the last samurai Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,086 Rep Power: 0	skull, zardon? __________________

Dec 25, 2003, 06:27 PM	#14
sinjin the last samurai Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,086 Rep Power: 0	i need to lay off the egg nog for awhile.... __________________

Dec 25, 2003, 06:47 PM	#16
sinjin the last samurai Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,086 Rep Power: 0	actually, we drink it. usually its just beaten egg yolks, sugar, rum, brandy and cream. you can add the egg whites (chilled and folded) to the top.... __________________

Dec 25, 2003, 09:40 PM	#19
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	The whole popups wanting to install software and crap is a bit much, I haven't donated yet although I'd like to, just haven't had the funds. Hopefully this week or so I will until such time however, yeah the popups are outta hand on a poorly configured rig, wanting to redirect you, advertising for sex, picking up singles, taking up the whole screen good lord Zardon the advertising group you use has gone off their rockers! I don't have to worry about pop-ups at home but yeah at work this is silly I couldn't even finish typing this post without multiple pop-ups! Grab some egg-nog and send em an Email, or some explosives. Jesus I just got a pop-up which opened a txt file warning me about spyware and it ejected the cd player on this rig. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Dec 25, 2003, 09:49 PM	#20
mousemanone DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: birmingham Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	pop-ups these are the worst i have seen in a long time.i will stay off this site for a few days.if things do not change i will take this site from my daily use.

Dec 25, 2003, 10:58 PM	#22
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,565 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	Well as Zardon has said, this is out of ours hands, the Ad provider has been contacted and hopefully we can rectify the situation. __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Dec 25, 2003, 11:36 PM	#25
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	I don't know if anyone else uses a little prog called popup ad filter which can be found at http://www.softpile.com/Internet/Bro...012_index.html It filters out about 99% of all pop ups and unders and I have never had any probs with ads on DH whilst using it. It really works.

Dec 25, 2003, 11:39 PM	#26
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	yes we all know pop up killers but thats kind of defeating the point of me putting them there in the first place, im trying to get some revenue for a server upgrade logla. If everyone uses pop up killers then the site loses alot of money. if the popunder is working right, it should only be one harmless popunder every so often which will give no problems. of course atm this isnt the case but hopefully in a few days it will be sorted. Running a site like this sometimes isnt pleasant - any of you actually think I like ads? sometimes I feel "dirty" myself, I have to ensure DH stays up and any possible upgrades we need (which we do need ) can be afforded.

Dec 25, 2003, 11:43 PM	#27
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	Fair point.

Dec 25, 2003, 11:46 PM	#28
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	we are working on removing ads for donators (or the option to open in your profile), and ill get the current ad problems sorted out, its a constant headache for me, id much prefer we lost them completely - as ive said earlier today if the site was the same size it was in the first few months we opened then most of the feedback threads would be gone and id be left with the positive comments. having no ads is a fine theory for a small site which costs $10 a month on a shared server - and you frequently see the people running these size sites saying "oh no way would I have popunders or ads, it ruins the layout or we wont ever do it!", I learned with experience on that one as my bank balance was getting lower each month. Between drivers, and main site hits, its quite costly now. Ads are the only way to pay for it. Its the way the net is now, and I hate it. Success has its burdens.

Dec 26, 2003, 12:01 AM	#29
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	I'm sure there are always alternative solutions to little problems like this (sorry this methodology has been drilled into me by working for too many greedy corporate bodies). There are bound to be other ways to fund the site - donations being one of them. I shall put my money making business hat on for the next couple of weeks and see if I can come up with any ingenious cash generators (all ethical and legal of course). Sometimes I even suprise myself so who knows what I may come up with.

Dec 26, 2003, 12:02 AM	#30
~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	yeah, we are discoving that with our site. Ad banners just DONT earn money.