DH open = CPU USAGE

GutterPunk · Apr 4, 2004, 09:08 PM

DH Open was giving me 78% CPU usage but when closed or gone to another site cpu went down....

unlucky me or sometin lol

i thought it was weird myself maybe someone else might have had the prob

Judas · Apr 5, 2004, 04:37 AM

actually.. lol.. neon and i found this out... it's do to the way the scripts run ... not to mention the adds and the flash animation.. although.. on my rig... it would avearge 17%... and spike to 30-40%..... (i also had other programs running such as winamp going and network connections and whatnot)...... 78% on your rig?.... nasty.....

**MIG-31** · Apr 5, 2004, 06:44 AM

11-25% for me.must have something else running in the background at the same time?

Zardon · Apr 5, 2004, 07:19 AM

I dont even see 1% usage, is this in a specific thread because it might be something else........

ryanraab · Apr 5, 2004, 07:33 AM

Same thing happens to me. Will this be looked into or does it matter?

Judas · Apr 5, 2004, 07:34 AM

i'm pretty sure he's referring to the frontpage.... just load up the home page... volla.. instant cpu ussage...

PangingJr · Apr 5, 2004, 09:27 AM

the high cpu usage can be detected in front page as well as an ActiveX control, this is from using a non tweak WinXP SP2 RC1's Internet Explorer, i cannot view some sections on the page without enabling the ActiveX..

i also have 2 more WinXP on this computer, a tweaked WinXP SP1 and the other is also a tweaked WinXP SP2 RC1. i doubt it if any of my tweaks will help this matter, but i'll check it out anywhere later..

i really don't mind having this high cpu usage, just want to let you know..
as for an ActiveX, i normmaly use Mozilla so i never notice that and just saw it, and let you know as well/

PS. some pics is coming..

GutterPunk · Apr 5, 2004, 11:22 AM

front page + in the forums

***Veridian3*** · Apr 5, 2004, 11:40 AM

I just tried on my work PC (p3 1ghz, 512mb ram) and it was 1-30% cpu when loading and then sat at 3% when done. This was IE6 - default install on Nt4. (yuk)

Zardon · Apr 5, 2004, 01:34 PM

Again I cant replicate this issue....... in work or at home, tried 3 machines.

GutterPunk · Apr 5, 2004, 04:32 PM

I am stuck on a 233 thats the reason why i bet but itslows everything dowwwwwwwwwn bigtime

Zardon · Apr 5, 2004, 04:36 PM

try running the site in mozilla or another browser without flash installed and see if that helps, im curious.

wertret · Apr 5, 2004, 05:01 PM

I'm having arround 10-20 with firefox, i don't think it's something to worry about...

Judas · Apr 5, 2004, 05:07 PM

lol... on my 90mhz machine... i would get instantly 100% cpu usage when i ran it.... of course.. browsing the forum was fine... but the occasional jump would hit.... it was completely flash related or Gif animated...

zerodamage · Apr 5, 2004, 05:12 PM

Just sitting on this thread, I get between 13-35% usage. Average of about 30% most of the time.

zerodamage · Apr 5, 2004, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
I dont even see 1% usage, is this in a specific thread because it might be something else........

Did you check the "other" cpu? Oh the joy of HT.

Zardon · Apr 5, 2004, 05:14 PM

when I get home ill run tests and temporarily remove the flash ads, then we can see just how much its affecting those on slower machines.

Zardon · Apr 5, 2004, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zerodamage
Did you check the "other" cpu? Oh the joy of HT.

The NT machines in work are P3s. not an issue, never seeing over 10% on them. and as for the macintoshes, well its a blessing they even boot up, CPU time is hard to judge, they suck.

why is it when people have issues, i rarely see them?

krazy1 · Apr 5, 2004, 05:30 PM

Only time I see CPU spikes is when the add loads on each page. Here at work I am running a P4 3Ghz HT with 1Gb ram. The CPU spike is 60-75% and lasts for 2-3 seconds.

**MIG-31** · Apr 5, 2004, 05:32 PM

mine has changed since the first post. 1% up-to a max of 16% cpu usage and thats mostly when i vigorously moved my mouse.

Zardon · Apr 5, 2004, 05:37 PM

the mouse scroll button, increases CPU time, its an IE issue.

**MIG-31** · Apr 5, 2004, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
the mouse scroll button, increases CPU time, its an IE issue.

not the scroll wheel,optical on pad.

it don't bother me as i have no obvious side effects from it. just quoting a change from previous.

BWX · Apr 9, 2004, 03:32 PM

Just saw this thread- I had a similar problem a while ago- but mainly in certain forum pages.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...0&pagenumber=1

FluffyChicken · Apr 12, 2004, 11:24 AM

I thought we found this to be the Flash sigs used
(Panging inparticualar)

Turn of sigs and you'll see everythings a lot better

Panging is the worst by a long way it takes a good percentage 80+% and stalls my DC project somewhat.
The other less intensive one's only take a little.

Try it view panging's sig while using a Task Manager or similar then move the page so it doesn't show, it drops.

(BWX232 didn't see your link there, but that'll explain where we found it)

I hope people will do something about this and make sure their sigs are simpler and less CPU intensive

Zardon · Apr 12, 2004, 11:35 AM

actually ive seen this in work now on a slower machine, with some of the flash on the site, most unfortunate some of the sigs like pangings really hog CPU time.

If this is an issue for alot of people ill have to do away with flash entirely, one of the problems of having a fast machine at home I never see these issues.

FluffyChicken · Apr 12, 2004, 02:54 PM

Zardon how about restricting it to Avatars only for a while, or maybe that's just my aversion to the large sig picture which I think spoil the forum (I prefer just avatars). They spoil the flow of reading. I don't mind a short text or small image sig myself as sometime's there's useful info but I hate large pictures (even yours).

Course that's upto you as you have to and (and certainly I wouldn't stop any advert flah pics.)

One thing though is over Remote Dektop you can really see panging's flash image in slow motion. There's just way to much detail and calculations going on.

BWX · Apr 12, 2004, 05:06 PM

they don't bother me anymore- I noticed it allot worse when I had Zone alarm PRO running- I uninstalled that and hings are back to normal. No sigs or flash on this site make CPU go above 15 or 20 at most. Plus I was running default speed for a few days back then when I really noticed it. 266fsb and 1500mhz- pretty slow..

When I run normal speed 200+fsb and 2000 to 2200mhz CPU I don't notice it at all.

Judas · Apr 12, 2004, 05:13 PM

on a 200mhz P1 and 70mb of ram..... windows XP Pro....1.6gb hardrive.... with everything cranked and with the post count per page set to 100.... although the cpu ussage sits around the 90% mark.. it is completely smooth yet.....

Zardon · Apr 12, 2004, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FluffyChicken
Zardon how about restricting it to Avatars only for a while, or maybe that's just my aversion to the large sig picture which I think spoil the forum (I prefer just avatars). They spoil the flow of reading. I don't mind a short text or small image sig myself as sometime's there's useful info but I hate large pictures (even yours).

Course that's upto you as you have to and (and certainly I wouldn't stop any advert flah pics.)

One thing though is over Remote Dektop you can really see panging's flash image in slow motion. There's just way to much detail and calculations going on.

yeah I can understand the issues you have after seeing it running on a slower machine, it was sitting at 95% with pangings sig on the screen.

Im trying to balance this in my head with my like for rewarding people for dedication and site commitment, I dont like the approach of the owner who is distant and doesnt seem to care less what happens on this site. alot of you guys are my friends so I like to let you see that your time and efforts here are rewarded. Nonetheless if more people come to me and say they are having problems on the site due to the flash then ill take steps to alter it, but right now only 2 or 3 people have came to me, and at least 20 times that have commented how much they love the freedom of the system as is. I will try and bend as much for everyone as I can but when it comes to it the majority will win out. I never even wanted sigs on the site at all initially (those of you who have been here since the start will remember that). Even when I gave in, I set some strict sizing rules which are still in place.

Right now a few staff and 15 or so gold members have flash signatures, flash avatars arent an option because it is more work for admins, we have set up a system wherein gold members have altered accounts at a server level to allow commands in the signature spacing to allow each user to alter his own sig from their own webspace, avatars with flash would need more hacking and right now priorities are in other departments.

I will monitor the situation and if anyone reading this hates the flash signatures, get in touch with me, the more people who dislike them the more I feel the need to look into it. As I say ive had very few complaints about this, im not ignoring the few who dont like them, but they can be turned off in your profiles for the time being.

Thanks guys.

FluffyChicken · Apr 12, 2004, 06:00 PM

I didn't realise Flash couldn't be used for the Avatars (I just assumed it was, as I do like yours

)

Well i've gone and turned sigs off in the options (shame all the text disappears as well) but hey browsing, screen scrolling has improved a lot (and I can actually see what everyone is typing rather than a barage is flashing images).
Normal 600k broadband connection and AXP 2.3GHz CPU btw. But the Laptop 1GHz doesn't like 'em too much (which I still wouldn't consider slow especially for the office/Internet/programming it gets used for
But then this is a site for the 'teen overclockers/benchamarking crowd'

who would consider it slow, lol.

Maybe if I was ten years younger I wouldn't mind them so much

This is actually the only site I visit regularly that has the large flashy sigs. I stay away from the others.

Apr 4, 2004, 09:08 PM	#1
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Apr 5, 2004, 06:44 AM	#3
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,818 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	11-25% for me.must have something else running in the background at the same time? __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

Apr 5, 2004, 11:22 AM	Thread Starter #8
GutterPunk I = Greatest Dood Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nebraska Posts: 5,949 Rep Power: 71	front page + in the forums __________________ Rock On \m/ Thank you Mousey for the Sig! --------------- Intel Core2Duo E6660 (3.4GHZ) ~ Tuniq Tower 120 ~ Enermax Galaxy 1000W ~ Corsair Dominator @ 1090MHZ 5-5-5-15 (OCZ XTC Modded Cooler)~ EVGA 8800GTX W/ HR-03 Plus 120MM ~ Asus DVD-RW LiteScribe ~ LG DVD-RW ~ Corsair Voyager 2GB ReadyBoost Drive ~ Vantec Nexus Fan Controller ~ ThermalTake Armor 25CM fan ~ Personal Finance Blog: Dent Your Debt

Apr 5, 2004, 04:32 PM	Thread Starter #11
GutterPunk I = Greatest Dood Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nebraska Posts: 5,949 Rep Power: 71	I am stuck on a 233 thats the reason why i bet but itslows everything dowwwwwwwwwn bigtime __________________ Rock On \m/ Thank you Mousey for the Sig! --------------- Intel Core2Duo E6660 (3.4GHZ) ~ Tuniq Tower 120 ~ Enermax Galaxy 1000W ~ Corsair Dominator @ 1090MHZ 5-5-5-15 (OCZ XTC Modded Cooler)~ EVGA 8800GTX W/ HR-03 Plus 120MM ~ Asus DVD-RW LiteScribe ~ LG DVD-RW ~ Corsair Voyager 2GB ReadyBoost Drive ~ Vantec Nexus Fan Controller ~ ThermalTake Armor 25CM fan ~ Personal Finance Blog: Dent Your Debt

Apr 5, 2004, 05:01 PM	#13
wertret Still watching... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Orihuela (Spain) Posts: 1,560 Rep Power: 0	I'm having arround 10-20 with firefox, i don't think it's something to worry about... __________________ "They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night."

Apr 5, 2004, 07:19 AM	#4
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	I dont even see 1% usage, is this in a specific thread because it might be something else........

Apr 5, 2004, 07:33 AM	#5
ryanraab DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 194 Rep Power: 0	Same thing happens to me. Will this be looked into or does it matter?

Apr 5, 2004, 09:27 AM	#7
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	the high cpu usage can be detected in front page as well as an ActiveX control, this is from using a non tweak WinXP SP2 RC1's Internet Explorer, i cannot view some sections on the page without enabling the ActiveX.. i also have 2 more WinXP on this computer, a tweaked WinXP SP1 and the other is also a tweaked WinXP SP2 RC1. i doubt it if any of my tweaks will help this matter, but i'll check it out anywhere later.. i really don't mind having this high cpu usage, just want to let you know.. as for an ActiveX, i normmaly use Mozilla so i never notice that and just saw it, and let you know as well/ PS. some pics is coming..

Apr 5, 2004, 11:40 AM	#9
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 5,027 Rep Power: 181	I just tried on my work PC (p3 1ghz, 512mb ram) and it was 1-30% cpu when loading and then sat at 3% when done. This was IE6 - default install on Nt4. (yuk)

Apr 5, 2004, 01:34 PM	#10
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Again I cant replicate this issue....... in work or at home, tried 3 machines.

Apr 5, 2004, 04:36 PM	#12
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	try running the site in mozilla or another browser without flash installed and see if that helps, im curious.

Apr 5, 2004, 05:12 PM	#15
zerodamage HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,478 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Just sitting on this thread, I get between 13-35% usage. Average of about 30% most of the time.

Apr 5, 2004, 05:14 PM	#17
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	when I get home ill run tests and temporarily remove the flash ads, then we can see just how much its affecting those on slower machines.

Apr 5, 2004, 05:30 PM	#19
krazy1 Live from the Dungeon Join Date: May 2003 Location: Between the SubWoofers Posts: 1,395 Rep Power: 0	Only time I see CPU spikes is when the add loads on each page. Here at work I am running a P4 3Ghz HT with 1Gb ram. The CPU spike is 60-75% and lasts for 2-3 seconds. __________________

Apr 5, 2004, 05:32 PM	#20
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,818 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	mine has changed since the first post. 1% up-to a max of 16% cpu usage and thats mostly when i vigorously moved my mouse. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

Apr 5, 2004, 05:37 PM	#21
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	the mouse scroll button, increases CPU time, its an IE issue.

Apr 9, 2004, 03:32 PM	#23
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Just saw this thread- I had a similar problem a while ago- but mainly in certain forum pages. http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...0&pagenumber=1 __________________

Apr 12, 2004, 11:24 AM	#24
FluffyChicken DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: England Posts: 320 Rep Power: 0	I thought we found this to be the Flash sigs used (Panging inparticualar) Turn of sigs and you'll see everythings a lot better Panging is the worst by a long way it takes a good percentage 80+% and stalls my DC project somewhat. The other less intensive one's only take a little. Try it view panging's sig while using a Task Manager or similar then move the page so it doesn't show, it drops. (BWX232 didn't see your link there, but that'll explain where we found it) I hope people will do something about this and make sure their sigs are simpler and less CPU intensive __________________ [COLOR=#455b64]Team mauisun.org [/COLOR]

Apr 12, 2004, 11:35 AM	#25
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	actually ive seen this in work now on a slower machine, with some of the flash on the site, most unfortunate some of the sigs like pangings really hog CPU time. If this is an issue for alot of people ill have to do away with flash entirely, one of the problems of having a fast machine at home I never see these issues.

Apr 12, 2004, 02:54 PM	#26
FluffyChicken DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: England Posts: 320 Rep Power: 0	Zardon how about restricting it to Avatars only for a while, or maybe that's just my aversion to the large sig picture which I think spoil the forum (I prefer just avatars). They spoil the flow of reading. I don't mind a short text or small image sig myself as sometime's there's useful info but I hate large pictures (even yours). Course that's upto you as you have to and (and certainly I wouldn't stop any advert flah pics.) One thing though is over Remote Dektop you can really see panging's flash image in slow motion. There's just way to much detail and calculations going on. __________________ [COLOR=#455b64]Team mauisun.org [/COLOR]

Apr 12, 2004, 05:06 PM	#27
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	they don't bother me anymore- I noticed it allot worse when I had Zone alarm PRO running- I uninstalled that and hings are back to normal. No sigs or flash on this site make CPU go above 15 or 20 at most. Plus I was running default speed for a few days back then when I really noticed it. 266fsb and 1500mhz- pretty slow.. When I run normal speed 200+fsb and 2000 to 2200mhz CPU I don't notice it at all. __________________

Apr 12, 2004, 06:00 PM	#30
FluffyChicken DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: England Posts: 320 Rep Power: 0	I didn't realise Flash couldn't be used for the Avatars (I just assumed it was, as I do like yours ) Well i've gone and turned sigs off in the options (shame all the text disappears as well) but hey browsing, screen scrolling has improved a lot (and I can actually see what everyone is typing rather than a barage is flashing images). Normal 600k broadband connection and AXP 2.3GHz CPU btw. But the Laptop 1GHz doesn't like 'em too much (which I still wouldn't consider slow especially for the office/Internet/programming it gets used for But then this is a site for the 'teen overclockers/benchamarking crowd' who would consider it slow, lol. Maybe if I was ten years younger I wouldn't mind them so much This is actually the only site I visit regularly that has the large flashy sigs. I stay away from the others. __________________ [COLOR=#455b64]Team mauisun.org [/COLOR]