Front page: New flash menu + Firefox = pretty ugly positioning problems

redsolar · Mar 10, 2005, 07:10 PM

Just noticed that the new flash side menu while looks nice wreaks havoc on the front page, as a lot of other elements are not rendered correctly in Firefox. Works fine in IE. Gimme a second, I will get a screenshot of what I see.

**MIG-31** · Mar 10, 2005, 07:12 PM

i'm getting the same with firefox.......ie is perfectly fine..

Dark Lord · Mar 10, 2005, 07:12 PM

way ahead of you red, i was just gonna make a post about this.

Kombatant · Mar 10, 2005, 07:16 PM

Yes, Firefox is totally fscked up... plz fix it kthx

redsolar · Mar 10, 2005, 07:17 PM

Wohoo, no more need for screenshots

.

PS BlueHeaven and I assume other themes have the same problem.

[hobo]eclipse · Mar 10, 2005, 07:34 PM

same thing here w/ firefox 1.0.1

Vikingod · Mar 10, 2005, 07:37 PM

me too, and a guy i work with. His isnt DH, its search engines and with IE. Here is the tread if someone wants to merge the two, sorry i didnt see this one.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...363#post569363

Necrosis · Mar 10, 2005, 07:42 PM

It appears with all themes.

Zardon · Mar 10, 2005, 07:47 PM

we are testing some code, lets not all panic

redsolar · Mar 10, 2005, 07:49 PM

We aren't panicing, just letting you know

. Thanks for getting back to us, Z!

**MIG-31** · Mar 10, 2005, 07:59 PM

if im not mistaken id looks as though Z has stopped his messing with firefox......mine is how it should be....

admins who needs them... (opps did i say that out loud!

)

PangingJr · Mar 10, 2005, 08:51 PM

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***craig5320*** · Mar 11, 2005, 12:00 AM

The menu is now reactivated and is no longer corrupting the layout in my FireFox let me know how it looks guys.

Ev!L-aLphA · Mar 11, 2005, 12:04 AM

looks alrite.. could u make the buttons a bit more techie?? cuz they look a bit plain =x but other than that their nice

Zardon · Mar 11, 2005, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ev!L-aLphA

looks alrite.. could u make the buttons a bit more techie?? cuz they look a bit plain =x but other than that their nice

They arent meant to be over the top man, they are nav buttons, and if you take the design to the extreme it will totally over power the page.

Ev!L-aLphA · Mar 11, 2005, 12:13 AM

oh! alrite its still nice and smooth

i like it cuz its a lot easier to see stuff now

gj guys

germanjulian · Mar 11, 2005, 12:13 AM

flash menu?????

w3c.... cry cry

mkk · Mar 11, 2005, 02:34 AM

I'd rather have a menu where it's possible to open a link in a new window. Perhaps such an option could be incorporated into the flash design, but I only care about the functionality in whatever way it may present itself. DH has been my favorite site and forum for a while now but if there is anything I would have differently then it's the overal design-driven orientation that sometimes takes form over function. No biggies but just some little things here and there that adds up, and nothing more than my humble opinion.

Matth · Mar 11, 2005, 03:30 PM

Yep!, tripped up here, IE5.5, and Outpost Firewall taking a few nibbles out.
Flash disabled, script enabled under protest, and only because posting won't work without it.

redsolar · Mar 11, 2005, 06:10 PM

I second mkk's opinion here. I love opening links in new tabs (middle click in Firefox) and so flash definitely prevents me from doing this. Worth noting however, that I rarely open things in new tabs from the menu, since they are more static links, and the majority of things I am interested in is forum/discussion, which I can still easily access using new posts link in my toolbox. Yet some people such as mkk will find it harder to make it work with flash menu.

Zardon · Mar 11, 2005, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkk

design-driven orientation that sometimes takes form over function. No biggies but just some little things here and there that adds up, and nothing more than my humble opinion.

I appreciate the points in this thread and ill take some under consideration, but I have to say, this site has not intentionally been designed to look good with little functionality. For example ive attemped to make the review pages as easy to use as possible with many ways of circumnavigating a page along with scripts to ease displaying of images, these werent put there because I liked the design level aspects of them. If I was seriously attempting to produce a site based solely on design rather than ease of use or content I have some amazing menu work done but IMO its not needed. I hate sites which just use flash for the sake of it, with annoying intros, unusable layouts, all just for show.

I always felt the navbar menu was extremely plain and it needed something on the front page to lift it a little. We looked at DHTML options and some flash options and ended up with this. The reason I went with flash was primarily due to the fact that the regulars here all love the flash work within the reviews, meaning the custom graphs etc. Certainly ive had some negative points about them but ive strong goals on producing reviews which look as good as they read, I dont see a problem with this, and it certainly wont be changing unless I get masses of negative feedback, which I havent done in the 8 months since we started them, most people love the design as well as the content.

As for the front page menu well it falls under the same thing, 99% of people browsing according to macromedia have flash player installed, its free, installs automatically on most systems and should cause no issues. This is why I feel perhaps its a personal choice response from a few people who dislike flash, rather than an issue which is ruining the useabilty of this site.

it would be very easy for me to have straightforward HTML on this site, with a single layout and word based graphs and graphics etc, but I feel we need to keep constantly trying to push the envelope and present the content in as pleasing a way as possible.

pr0digal jenius · Mar 12, 2005, 05:06 AM

I rather like the new menu bar....especially how sections with multiple entries expand

Very nice craig/allan/phil

Matth · Mar 12, 2005, 06:10 PM

Now I know why I can't see the review images - BLAST!
If it wasn't for online games, I wouldn't have flash installed at all - I treat all "active" content like a rather dodgy hand grenade.

Zardon · Mar 12, 2005, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matth

Now I know why I can't see the review images - BLAST!
If it wasn't for online games, I wouldn't have flash installed at all - I treat all "active" content like a rather dodgy hand grenade.

your choice, thankfully its a small group otherwise we would still be dealing with huge and nasty 256 colour gifs, thread closed its wandering into peoples personal opinions on flash now, not relevant to feedback.

Mar 10, 2005, 07:10 PM	#1
redsolar Off duty Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Las Vegas, USA Posts: 1,242 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Front page: New flash menu + Firefox = pretty ugly positioning problems Just noticed that the new flash side menu while looks nice wreaks havoc on the front page, as a lot of other elements are not rendered correctly in Firefox. Works fine in IE. Gimme a second, I will get a screenshot of what I see. __________________ Real_Men_Do_Not_Use_Space_Bar Main rig: Intel Core i7 930 @ 4.0 Ghz \| Corsair H50 Push/Pull \| 12GB OCZ DDR3 \| ASUS Radeon HD 5850 \| 3x 1TB Samsung F3 RAID5 on Dell PERC 5i SAS + 1TB Hitachi \| MSI X58 Pro-e \| 850W Antec Truepower Quattro \| RocketFish by Lian Li Full Tower Case \| Gateway XHD3000 30" LCD \| Dell 2408WFP 24" LCD \| Dell 2407WFP 24" LCD \| Logitech Z-5500 Speakers \| Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Laptop: Samsung x360-34P \| Core 2 Duo SU9400 1.4 GHz \| 4GB DDR3 \| 128GB Samsung SSD \| Intel 4500M w/ HDMI \| WiFi \| Bluetooth \| 13.3" WLED 1280x800 \| Windows 7 Professional x64

Mar 10, 2005, 07:12 PM	#2
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,818 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	i'm getting the same with firefox.......ie is perfectly fine.. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

Mar 10, 2005, 07:16 PM	#4
Kombatant DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Athens, Hellas Posts: 644 Rep Power: 62	Yes, Firefox is totally fscked up... plz fix it kthx __________________ There is no spoon... Kombatant's Lair

Mar 10, 2005, 07:17 PM	Thread Starter #5
redsolar Off duty Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Las Vegas, USA Posts: 1,242 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Wohoo, no more need for screenshots . PS BlueHeaven and I assume other themes have the same problem. __________________ Real_Men_Do_Not_Use_Space_Bar Main rig: Intel Core i7 930 @ 4.0 Ghz \| Corsair H50 Push/Pull \| 12GB OCZ DDR3 \| ASUS Radeon HD 5850 \| 3x 1TB Samsung F3 RAID5 on Dell PERC 5i SAS + 1TB Hitachi \| MSI X58 Pro-e \| 850W Antec Truepower Quattro \| RocketFish by Lian Li Full Tower Case \| Gateway XHD3000 30" LCD \| Dell 2408WFP 24" LCD \| Dell 2407WFP 24" LCD \| Logitech Z-5500 Speakers \| Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Laptop: Samsung x360-34P \| Core 2 Duo SU9400 1.4 GHz \| 4GB DDR3 \| 128GB Samsung SSD \| Intel 4500M w/ HDMI \| WiFi \| Bluetooth \| 13.3" WLED 1280x800 \| Windows 7 Professional x64

Mar 10, 2005, 07:49 PM	Thread Starter #10
redsolar Off duty Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Las Vegas, USA Posts: 1,242 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	We aren't panicing, just letting you know . Thanks for getting back to us, Z! __________________ Real_Men_Do_Not_Use_Space_Bar Main rig: Intel Core i7 930 @ 4.0 Ghz \| Corsair H50 Push/Pull \| 12GB OCZ DDR3 \| ASUS Radeon HD 5850 \| 3x 1TB Samsung F3 RAID5 on Dell PERC 5i SAS + 1TB Hitachi \| MSI X58 Pro-e \| 850W Antec Truepower Quattro \| RocketFish by Lian Li Full Tower Case \| Gateway XHD3000 30" LCD \| Dell 2408WFP 24" LCD \| Dell 2407WFP 24" LCD \| Logitech Z-5500 Speakers \| Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Laptop: Samsung x360-34P \| Core 2 Duo SU9400 1.4 GHz \| 4GB DDR3 \| 128GB Samsung SSD \| Intel 4500M w/ HDMI \| WiFi \| Bluetooth \| 13.3" WLED 1280x800 \| Windows 7 Professional x64

Mar 10, 2005, 07:12 PM	#3
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 125 System Specs	way ahead of you red, i was just gonna make a post about this.

Mar 10, 2005, 07:34 PM	#6
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,907 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	same thing here w/ firefox 1.0.1

Mar 10, 2005, 07:37 PM	#7
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	me too, and a guy i work with. His isnt DH, its search engines and with IE. Here is the tread if someone wants to merge the two, sorry i didnt see this one. http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...363#post569363

Mar 10, 2005, 07:42 PM	#8
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	It appears with all themes.

Mar 10, 2005, 07:47 PM	#9
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	we are testing some code, lets not all panic

Mar 10, 2005, 07:59 PM	#11
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,818 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	if im not mistaken id looks as though Z has stopped his messing with firefox......mine is how it should be.... admins who needs them... (opps did i say that out loud! ) __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

Mar 10, 2005, 08:51 PM	#12
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	proxomiltron - allow ad

Mar 11, 2005, 12:00 AM	#13
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,565 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	The menu is now reactivated and is no longer corrupting the layout in my FireFox let me know how it looks guys. __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Mar 11, 2005, 12:04 AM	#14
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 0	looks alrite.. could u make the buttons a bit more techie?? cuz they look a bit plain =x but other than that their nice __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08

Mar 11, 2005, 12:13 AM	#16
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 0	oh! alrite its still nice and smooth i like it cuz its a lot easier to see stuff now gj guys __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08

Mar 11, 2005, 12:13 AM	#17
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Mar 11, 2005, 02:34 AM	#18
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,489 Rep Power: 132 System Specs	I'd rather have a menu where it's possible to open a link in a new window. Perhaps such an option could be incorporated into the flash design, but I only care about the functionality in whatever way it may present itself. DH has been my favorite site and forum for a while now but if there is anything I would have differently then it's the overal design-driven orientation that sometimes takes form over function. No biggies but just some little things here and there that adds up, and nothing more than my humble opinion.

Mar 11, 2005, 03:30 PM	#19
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	Yep!, tripped up here, IE5.5, and Outpost Firewall taking a few nibbles out. Flash disabled, script enabled under protest, and only because posting won't work without it.

Mar 11, 2005, 06:10 PM	Thread Starter #20
redsolar Off duty Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Las Vegas, USA Posts: 1,242 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I second mkk's opinion here. I love opening links in new tabs (middle click in Firefox) and so flash definitely prevents me from doing this. Worth noting however, that I rarely open things in new tabs from the menu, since they are more static links, and the majority of things I am interested in is forum/discussion, which I can still easily access using new posts link in my toolbox. Yet some people such as mkk will find it harder to make it work with flash menu. __________________ Real_Men_Do_Not_Use_Space_Bar Main rig: Intel Core i7 930 @ 4.0 Ghz \| Corsair H50 Push/Pull \| 12GB OCZ DDR3 \| ASUS Radeon HD 5850 \| 3x 1TB Samsung F3 RAID5 on Dell PERC 5i SAS + 1TB Hitachi \| MSI X58 Pro-e \| 850W Antec Truepower Quattro \| RocketFish by Lian Li Full Tower Case \| Gateway XHD3000 30" LCD \| Dell 2408WFP 24" LCD \| Dell 2407WFP 24" LCD \| Logitech Z-5500 Speakers \| Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Laptop: Samsung x360-34P \| Core 2 Duo SU9400 1.4 GHz \| 4GB DDR3 \| 128GB Samsung SSD \| Intel 4500M w/ HDMI \| WiFi \| Bluetooth \| 13.3" WLED 1280x800 \| Windows 7 Professional x64

Mar 12, 2005, 05:06 AM	#22
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	I rather like the new menu bar....especially how sections with multiple entries expand Very nice craig/allan/phil

Mar 12, 2005, 06:10 PM	#23
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	Now I know why I can't see the review images - BLAST! If it wasn't for online games, I wouldn't have flash installed at all - I treat all "active" content like a rather dodgy hand grenade.