Unicode for the Forums?

ToshiroOC · Dec 19, 2002, 10:50 AM

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if Unicode posts are supported? I asked cyborg about Unicode-supported sigs a very short while ago, which I know either require a special command/don't work, but now I'm just wondering in general if we can post in Unicode. If we can't, does the forum have the capacity to move to support Unicode, and will it happen if it can?

ToshiroOC

ToshiroOC · Dec 19, 2002, 10:53 AM

The Japanese for "Student" (transliterates as gaku-sei) should be below if Unicode works.

学生

ToshiroOC · Dec 19, 2002, 10:57 AM

Interesting, it does appear in Mozilla 1.2, but not perfectly - its insanely tiny, and I have to zoom up a lot to see the characters at an acceptable size. I set the size to "Huge" (size=4) while posting...

ToshiroOC

Lets try this again:
Size 1:
学生
Size 2:
学生
Size 3:
学生
Size 4:
学生
No sizing information:
学生

ToshiroOC · Dec 19, 2002, 10:59 AM

Lets try something excessive and see if it works:
Size 10:
学生
Size 20:
学生
Size 50:
学生
Size 75:
学生

ToshiroOC · Dec 19, 2002, 11:00 AM

I would assume that Unicode does work (at least for Mozilla 1.2) with posting, and though it needs size to be set much beyond normal, it works fine. Now, lets wonder about the sigs... Anyone have some feedback on this? I'll check it tommorow, bed time for me, its 0300 PST...

ToshiroOC

EDIT: Opera 7 doesn't format correctly and the characters overlap the line above them a bit. Both IE6 and Opera 7 brutally mangle the beautiful font for the characters that I see in Mozilla, which bugs me, but IE6 seems to work fine with the Unicode...

Jeff · Dec 20, 2002, 01:23 AM

I see question marks when i view it in Mozilla 1.2b, however, the code is being preserved in the document source, so i have a feeling it may be something you are doing wrong...

you may need to actually insert the character instead of using &...;

Jeff · Dec 20, 2002, 01:24 AM

It may also have something to do with the font we are using on the site, try using the [font=blah] tag...

ToshiroOC · Dec 20, 2002, 05:50 AM

I just realized that I have the Japanese/Chinese addin installed for windows, and Mozilla appears to be using the same font that Windows functions use when using Unicode. The &... stuff is what happens when the Unicode characters are displayed with ASCII characters - when I pasted them into the text box initially I saw the characters, but when I clicked on preview then back they reverted to the ASCII representations of the same characters. I posted anyway and it displayed fine, so my guess was that the ASCII with the & and the characters were interchangeable, and for some reason the textbox+back button simply changed between the two.

ToshiroOC

ToshiroOC · Dec 20, 2002, 06:01 AM

http://www.simtel.net/pub/dl/53015.shtml

This is a link to a browser specifically intended for viewing Asian pages (originator: NJstar.com), its free software/demo, so if you can't see the characters and want to this should probably work.

ToshiroOC

Dec 19, 2002, 10:50 AM	#1
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Unicode for the Forums? Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if Unicode posts are supported? I asked cyborg about Unicode-supported sigs a very short while ago, which I know either require a special command/don't work, but now I'm just wondering in general if we can post in Unicode. If we can't, does the forum have the capacity to move to support Unicode, and will it happen if it can? ToshiroOC __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Dec 19, 2002, 10:53 AM	Thread Starter #2
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	The Japanese for "Student" (transliterates as gaku-sei) should be below if Unicode works. 学生 __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Dec 19, 2002, 10:57 AM	Thread Starter #3
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Interesting, it does appear in Mozilla 1.2, but not perfectly - its insanely tiny, and I have to zoom up a lot to see the characters at an acceptable size. I set the size to "Huge" (size=4) while posting... ToshiroOC Lets try this again: Size 1: 学生 Size 2: 学生 Size 3: 学生 Size 4: 学生 No sizing information: 学生 __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Dec 19, 2002, 10:59 AM	Thread Starter #4
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Lets try something excessive and see if it works: Size 10: 学生 Size 20: 学生 Size 50: 学生 Size 75: 学生 __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Dec 19, 2002, 11:00 AM	Thread Starter #5
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	I would assume that Unicode does work (at least for Mozilla 1.2) with posting, and though it needs size to be set much beyond normal, it works fine. Now, lets wonder about the sigs... Anyone have some feedback on this? I'll check it tommorow, bed time for me, its 0300 PST... ToshiroOC EDIT: Opera 7 doesn't format correctly and the characters overlap the line above them a bit. Both IE6 and Opera 7 brutally mangle the beautiful font for the characters that I see in Mozilla, which bugs me, but IE6 seems to work fine with the Unicode... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Dec 20, 2002, 01:23 AM	#6
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	I see question marks when i view it in Mozilla 1.2b, however, the code is being preserved in the document source, so i have a feeling it may be something you are doing wrong... you may need to actually insert the character instead of using &...; __________________

Dec 20, 2002, 01:24 AM	#7
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	It may also have something to do with the font we are using on the site, try using the [font=blah] tag... __________________

Dec 20, 2002, 05:50 AM	Thread Starter #8
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	I just realized that I have the Japanese/Chinese addin installed for windows, and Mozilla appears to be using the same font that Windows functions use when using Unicode. The &... stuff is what happens when the Unicode characters are displayed with ASCII characters - when I pasted them into the text box initially I saw the characters, but when I clicked on preview then back they reverted to the ASCII representations of the same characters. I posted anyway and it displayed fine, so my guess was that the ASCII with the & and the characters were interchangeable, and for some reason the textbox+back button simply changed between the two. ToshiroOC __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Dec 20, 2002, 06:01 AM	Thread Starter #9
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	http://www.simtel.net/pub/dl/53015.shtml This is a link to a browser specifically intended for viewing Asian pages (originator: NJstar.com), its free software/demo, so if you can't see the characters and want to this should probably work. ToshiroOC __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)