another Starforce flame

Neshi · Aug 27, 2006, 01:26 AM

after trying Shadowwars 2 and not really liking it, deleting it, my dvd-rom is just incapable of playing my Warcraft 3 cd

its not even showing the red searchlight on the dvd-rom itself, and my pc runs SLOW! when the cd is in... and its searching..
does anyone has an option for this maybe?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Aug 27, 2006, 05:38 AM

Get a lawyer and sue.... thats ridiculous... if it killed the drive I'd bitch at the makers of the game pronto

Sandok · Aug 27, 2006, 10:44 AM

Try the starforce remover. Go on googe and type starforce remover / uninstaller and you'll get an app that mostly cleans out your PC.

FnF · Aug 27, 2006, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neshi

after trying Shadowwars 2 and not really liking it, deleting it, my dvd-rom is just incapable of playing my Warcraft 3 cd

its not even showing the red searchlight on the dvd-rom itself, and my pc runs SLOW! when the cd is in... and its searching..
does anyone has an option for this maybe?

Probably your drive is set to PIO (I had the same problem), this damaged my drive, and now it cant read properly anymore. I emailed Starforce about this, but they said it was my problem, and not theirs

Erroneus · Aug 27, 2006, 12:13 PM

Get Starforce Remover http://www.glop.org/files/sfdrvrem.zip

Upgrade firmware on your drive

Rayder · Aug 27, 2006, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erroneus

Get Starforce Remover http://www.glop.org/files/sfdrvrem.zip

Upgrade firmware on your drive

That only works sometimes.....

Erroneus · Aug 27, 2006, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rayder

That only works sometimes.....

Indeed, but it's worth a shot.

Zardon · Aug 27, 2006, 02:51 PM

you know I dont mind copy protection on games but starforce is worse than having 400 viruses on your machine. this software should be BANNED and the company who make it should be shutdown. everyone should get together and form a lawsuit to force the company to replace the drives this has destroyed. I wont even install a game now with it on the disc.

Neshi · Aug 27, 2006, 08:25 PM

i wont either.. dont think ill be able to install anything at the moment..

ill try that remover app, and i already upgraded firmware (i guess) i went to the site and installed the newest driver...

EDIT: ok, this is weird, after running that tool and restarting my pc, it works as it used to again...

btw, does anyone know what that program is called, that can ID your whole pc... so you can see what proc, memory etc. i forgot the name

Sandok · Aug 27, 2006, 08:41 PM

You know Neshi... I've alwasy ended up having to reformat my entire PC after starforce...

Hope you have better luck!

Zardon · Aug 27, 2006, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neshi

btw, does anyone know what that program is called, that can ID your whole pc... so you can see what proc, memory etc. i forgot the name

everest

**temeteus82** · Aug 27, 2006, 08:59 PM

Starforce = rootkit + malware + virus

Thats how I feel about it ...

Sorry if it's a bit off-topic ...

SFOSOK · Aug 27, 2006, 11:13 PM

Yay! I mean wut...

I can't hate it till at least I have a bad experience with it. Sorry guys.

Neshi · Aug 27, 2006, 11:19 PM

you dont want the bad experience, it just sucks... you can start hating it without the experience.. trust me

well sandok, like i said.. it works again.

riles9262 · Aug 27, 2006, 11:32 PM

I've yet to play a game that 'featured' starforce. And from all the bad news about it, I'll be staying away from those games.

Rayder · Aug 28, 2006, 12:12 AM

I've had Starforce kill 2 of my writer drives.....only one was recovered with a firmware flash.

Starforce killed PC gaming for me. I don't buy PC games at all anymore, Flatout 2 was the last, and that was in question until it was determined NOT to contain SF in the American version. I've gotten burnt already by buying a game, booting it up and finding out it had SF in it. When that happens, I immediately lose all interest for the game.

I'm strongly considering going back to consoles for my gaming. At least they don't virus those out with crapware like Starforce. I haven't had a console since the PS1....

H3X4D3C1M4L · Aug 28, 2006, 06:49 PM

I refuse to buy anything with Star Force. Usually I Google around to see if anyone else knows if it has Star force before I buy. I saw SF ruin my friend's new shiny Plextor external DVD burner

Not cool at all

Neshi · Aug 29, 2006, 04:32 PM

guess its broken after all. After a night of playing W3 the fun is over. Cant get it to work anymore.. game crashes after a few minutes or doesnt start at all..

Tinkerhell · Aug 29, 2006, 04:59 PM

I've never installed a game that had this crap on it (to my knowledge). I expect that's because I just don't have time to play a ton of games and I only get a new one maybe 2-3 times a year. Oblivion is the most recent thing I've purchased. Prior to that it was NWN. hehehe.

What I don't understand though, if sooo many people have such a HUGE problem with this supposed copy protection system why hasn't a large law suit been placed against the dev? If it's really eating that many drives, and it sounds like it does from what everyone here says, I can't believe that some tech lawyer somewhere doesn't jump all over the opportunity to make some bucks.

??

BWX · Aug 29, 2006, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinkerhell

I've never installed a game that had this crap on it (to my knowledge). I expect that's because I just don't have time to play a ton of games and I only get a new one maybe 2-3 times a year. Oblivion is the most recent thing I've purchased. Prior to that it was NWN. hehehe.

What I don't understand though, if sooo many people have such a HUGE problem with this supposed copy protection system why hasn't a large law suit been placed against the dev? If it's really eating that many drives, and it sounds like it does from what everyone here says, I can't believe that some tech lawyer somewhere doesn't jump all over the opportunity to make some bucks.

??

They are being sued... at least the game publishers are for using it..
http://eplaw.us/starforce.html
http://eplaw.us/terms.html

http://www.glop.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=291

http://www.glop.org/starforce/

Released Starforced games
Here's the list of games we are boycotting. If a game is missing of you feel like the list is not complete, please post a topic about it in the forum.

7 Sins
Air Conflicts
American Conquest: Divided Nation
Ankh
Anstoss 4
Bandits: Phoenix Rising
Bet on Soldier
Beyond Divinity
Black Mirror
Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII
Blitzkrieg 2
Blitzkrieg: Rolling Thunder
Breed
Brian Lara International Cricket 2005
Broken Sword 3: The Sleeping Dragon
Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood
Castle Strike
Chaos League
Chaos League: Sudden Death
City Life
Codename: Outbreak
Codename: Panzers - Phase One
Codename: Panzers - Phase Two
Cold War
Colin McRae Rally 2005
Cossacks II: Napoleonic Wars
Crazy Frog Racer
Cross Racing Championship 2005
Curse: The Eye of Isis
Cycling Manager 3
Cycling Manager 4
D-Day
Dead to Rights
Demonic Speedway
Desert Rats vs Afrika Korps
Domination
Dreamfall
Emergency Fire Response
Enigma: Rising Tide
Etherlords II
Fire Chief
Fire Department
FlatOut 2
Freedom Force vs The Third Reich
Gangland
Garfield
Gene Troopers
Gooka: The Mystery of Janatris
GT Legends
GTR: FIA GT Racing Game
Hammer & Sickle
Happiness
Horse Race Manager
I-Ninja
Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter
Journey to the Centre of the Earth
Keepsake
Kicker Manager 2004
Kill Switch
King Kong
Knights of the Temple 2
Korea: Forgotten Conflict
Kuro No Uta Hime
L.A. Rush
LMA Professional Manager 2005
Lock On: Flaming Cliffs
Mad Tracks
Medieval Lords
Micro Machines V4
Midway Arcade Treasures Deluxe Edition
Miko X Mono
Namco Museum 50th Anniversary
Neuro Hunter
Nibiru
Night Watch
Obscure
Pac Man World 2
Pac Man World 3
Pacific Storm
Paradise
Pariah
Pax Romana
Perimeter
Perimeter: Emperor's Testament
Pferdehof - Pferd und Pony
Pop Star Academy
Postal 2: Apocalypse Weekend
Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones
Pro Cycling Manager Saison 2006
Pro Rugby Manager
Psi-Ops
Pure Pinball
Rally Championship Xtreme
Restricted Area
Revolution
RHEM 2 : La Cité Interdite
Ricky Ponting International Cricket 2005
Rise & Fall: Civilizations at War (NDA Beta Version)
Runaway: A Road Adventure
Rush For Berlin
Scrapland
Second Sight
Silent Hunter 3
Silent Storm
Silkolene Honda Motocross GP
Singles 2 : Triple Trouble
Singles : Flirt Up Your Life
Sniper Elite
Soldiers Heroes of World War 2
Sommerspiele 2004
Space Rangers 2
SpellForce 2
Splinter Cell 3: Chaos Theory
Star Wolves
Steel Saviour
Still Life
Street Racing Syndicate
Sudeki
SuperPower 2
Syberia II
Taito Legends 2
The Fall : Last Days of Gaia
The Moment of Silence
The Stalin Subway
The Suffering: Ties That Bind
The Westerner
TOCA Race Driver 2 : The Ultimate Racing Simulator
TOCA Race Driver 3
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six : Lockdown
Torrente 3
TrackMania
TrackMania : Power Up !
TrackMania Nations
TrackMania Original
TrackMania Sunrise
TrackMania Sunrise eXtreme
Traitors Gate 2: Cypher
Ubersoldier
UFO: Aftershock
Universal Combat: A World Apart
Universal Combat Gold
V8 Supercars 2
V8 Supercars 3
Virtual Skipper 3
Virtual Skipper 4
Vivisector
War on Terror
Wildlife Park
Wildlife Park 2
Wintersport Pro 2006
World Racing 2
World War II: Frontline Command
Worms 4: Mayhem
X3: Reunion
XIII
Xpand Rally
Xuan-Yuan Sword 4
Note: work in progress, this list is not comprehensive.

Released Starforced software
Starforce is hitting the software market. Avoid getting one of those if you like to be able to do some backup of your legally bought software

Lunar Map Pro
Super Architect 3D Platinum
Web 2 Date
Un-Starforced games
The games listed below do not have Starforce included anymore. The editor of the game released an official patch to remove the Starforce protection, and thus fixed all the problems related to Starforce. Thanks to your support everywhere ! Keep spreading the word !

Area 51
Heroes of Might and Magic V
Restaurant Empire
The Fall: Last Days of Gaia
X2: The Threat

Neshi · Aug 29, 2006, 08:15 PM

one more for the list, which killed my drive:
Spellforce 2:Shadow Wars

H3X4D3C1M4L · Aug 30, 2006, 11:04 PM

Pariah has it? DAMN! I got it as a 2 for $5 deal at Walmart

BWX · Aug 31, 2006, 07:11 AM

Yeah it has ruined quite a few games.

Aug 27, 2006, 01:26 AM	#1
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,260 Rep Power: 150 System Specs	another Starforce flame after trying Shadowwars 2 and not really liking it, deleting it, my dvd-rom is just incapable of playing my Warcraft 3 cd its not even showing the red searchlight on the dvd-rom itself, and my pc runs SLOW! when the cd is in... and its searching.. does anyone has an option for this maybe? __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Aug 27, 2006, 12:13 PM	#5
Erroneus Get off my lawn! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 13,343 Rep Power: 114 System Specs	Get Starforce Remover http://www.glop.org/files/sfdrvrem.zip Upgrade firmware on your drive __________________

Aug 27, 2006, 08:25 PM	Thread Starter #9
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,260 Rep Power: 150 System Specs	i wont either.. dont think ill be able to install anything at the moment.. ill try that remover app, and i already upgraded firmware (i guess) i went to the site and installed the newest driver... EDIT: ok, this is weird, after running that tool and restarting my pc, it works as it used to again... btw, does anyone know what that program is called, that can ID your whole pc... so you can see what proc, memory etc. i forgot the name __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's Last edited by Neshi; Aug 27, 2006 at 08:35 PM.

Aug 27, 2006, 11:13 PM	#13
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	Yay! I mean wut... I can't hate it till at least I have a bad experience with it. Sorry guys. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Aug 27, 2006, 11:19 PM	Thread Starter #14
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,260 Rep Power: 150 System Specs	you dont want the bad experience, it just sucks... you can start hating it without the experience.. trust me well sandok, like i said.. it works again. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Aug 27, 2006, 05:38 AM	#2
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Get a lawyer and sue.... thats ridiculous... if it killed the drive I'd bitch at the makers of the game pronto

Aug 27, 2006, 10:44 AM	#3
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	Try the starforce remover. Go on googe and type starforce remover / uninstaller and you'll get an app that mostly cleans out your PC.

Aug 27, 2006, 02:51 PM	#8
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	you know I dont mind copy protection on games but starforce is worse than having 400 viruses on your machine. this software should be BANNED and the company who make it should be shutdown. everyone should get together and form a lawsuit to force the company to replace the drives this has destroyed. I wont even install a game now with it on the disc.

Aug 27, 2006, 08:41 PM	#10
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	You know Neshi... I've alwasy ended up having to reformat my entire PC after starforce... Hope you have better luck!

Aug 27, 2006, 11:32 PM	#15
riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,842 Rep Power: 70 System Specs	I've yet to play a game that 'featured' starforce. And from all the bad news about it, I'll be staying away from those games. __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.

Aug 28, 2006, 12:12 AM	#16
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,160 Rep Power: 71	I've had Starforce kill 2 of my writer drives.....only one was recovered with a firmware flash. Starforce killed PC gaming for me. I don't buy PC games at all anymore, Flatout 2 was the last, and that was in question until it was determined NOT to contain SF in the American version. I've gotten burnt already by buying a game, booting it up and finding out it had SF in it. When that happens, I immediately lose all interest for the game. I'm strongly considering going back to consoles for my gaming. At least they don't virus those out with crapware like Starforce. I haven't had a console since the PS1....

Aug 28, 2006, 06:49 PM	#17
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I refuse to buy anything with Star Force. Usually I Google around to see if anyone else knows if it has Star force before I buy. I saw SF ruin my friend's new shiny Plextor external DVD burner Not cool at all

Aug 29, 2006, 04:32 PM	Thread Starter #18
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,260 Rep Power: 150 System Specs	guess its broken after all. After a night of playing W3 the fun is over. Cant get it to work anymore.. game crashes after a few minutes or doesnt start at all.. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Aug 29, 2006, 04:59 PM	#19
Tinkerhell Not all fairies are nice. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 989 Rep Power: 42	I've never installed a game that had this crap on it (to my knowledge). I expect that's because I just don't have time to play a ton of games and I only get a new one maybe 2-3 times a year. Oblivion is the most recent thing I've purchased. Prior to that it was NWN. hehehe. What I don't understand though, if sooo many people have such a HUGE problem with this supposed copy protection system why hasn't a large law suit been placed against the dev? If it's really eating that many drives, and it sounds like it does from what everyone here says, I can't believe that some tech lawyer somewhere doesn't jump all over the opportunity to make some bucks. ??

Aug 29, 2006, 08:15 PM	Thread Starter #21
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,260 Rep Power: 150 System Specs	one more for the list, which killed my drive: Spellforce 2:Shadow Wars __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Aug 30, 2006, 11:04 PM	#22
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Pariah has it? DAMN! I got it as a 2 for $5 deal at Walmart

Aug 31, 2006, 07:11 AM	#23
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Yeah it has ruined quite a few games. __________________