Current rock music

OnDborder · Oct 6, 2006, 10:46 PM

Sucks..
Nothing like the "good 'Ol days"..
I may be getting older but I still have an ear for talent. I hear very little talent these days.
Nothing but blang-blang, whaa-whaa, throat-clearing crap..
Gee, wonder why the record companies don't make the money like they used to..

Zardon · Oct 6, 2006, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OnDborder

Gee, wonder why the record companies don't make the money like they used to..

P2P?

Zelig · Oct 6, 2006, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OnDborder

I may be getting older but I still have an ear for talent. I hear very little talent these days.

It's still around, just the popular stuff isn't it. I'm not too worried though, I see "rock" as a collection of all the rock music that's available. So what if good new bands aren't coming out at as great a rate as they used to? I've still got a long time before I finish my collection of older music.

OnDborder · Oct 7, 2006, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

P2P?

That and the lack of quality in talent producing the music.. I still buy cd's if they're worth it..
There are a few bands,, IMO, that are pretty good.. Tool, Flyleaf, Evanescence, and Cheyelle's first cd, to name some off the top of my head.

SFOSOK · Oct 7, 2006, 09:44 PM

most artists are forced to push out albums when they hit major record labels (the suff you see in stores and hear on the radio). They make one decent song and ride on it for the rest of the album. There are good bands out there in rock and metal alike, your just not looking hard enough.

Asmoday · Oct 8, 2006, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SFOSOK

There are good bands out there in rock and metal alike, your just not looking hard enough.

You're correct sir!

niceguyrichy · Oct 8, 2006, 03:12 PM

these days the market is soooo flooded with manufactured crap you really do have to go actively looking for decent music. But there is plenty of it (in every genre) out there , if you look properly.
I find I wince lots if I put some crap like Kerang on the TV

OnDborder · Oct 8, 2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SFOSOK

most artists are forced to push out albums when they hit major record labels (the suff you see in stores and hear on the radio). They make one decent song and ride on it for the rest of the album. There are good bands out there in rock and metal alike, your just not looking hard enough.

For example?
Where would one go to look?
But then again, you shouldn't have to "look hard".. You didn't used to have to,just turned on the radio and there ya go. Maybe I should have titled the thread as The rock played on radio and tv is crap.. Compared to the "classic" rock this stuff is crap.
I listen to the radio, more or less, 9 to 10 hours a day at my employment. Mostly talkradio but I do scan the music stations. I try to listen to the current rock stations but switch over to the classical rock and usually stay, depending on the tune..
Here's one for ya,, name 5 songs of the current bands that you think they'll be playing on "classic rock" stations in the future..

OmegaRED · Oct 10, 2006, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OnDborder

Sucks..
Nothing like the "good 'Ol days"..
I may be getting older but I still have an ear for talent. I hear very little talent these days.
Nothing but blang-blang, whaa-whaa, throat-clearing crap..
Gee, wonder why the record companies don't make the money like they used to..

Congrats you've just revealed yourself to be an old fart. Every generation dislikes the next generations music and it gets worse as you get older. Accept this and move on, maybe even be a little more open minded and you'll appreciate some modern day music.

SFOSOK · Oct 10, 2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by OnDborder

For example?
Where would one go to look?
But then again, you shouldn't have to "look hard".. You didn't used to have to,just turned on the radio and there ya go. Maybe I should have titled the thread as The rock played on radio and tv is crap.. Compared to the "classic" rock this stuff is crap.
I listen to the radio, more or less, 9 to 10 hours a day at my employment. Mostly talkradio but I do scan the music stations. I try to listen to the current rock stations but switch over to the classical rock and usually stay, depending on the tune..
Here's one for ya,, name 5 songs of the current bands that you think they'll be playing on "classic rock" stations in the future..

Where could you start? Well, I've found it hard to keep up with new music I like.

I'd say you can start at iTunes (yep thats right). What I usually do is look up the bands I do like the then click on what I would think is their best album. If you look over to the right (this is in their music store btw) it has a list of about the 5 top albums that people who bought the album you like bought.

if that makes sense. Just go into the iTunes music store search for one of you favorite albums and or bands then look in the column where it said listeners also bought. Check out the albums and listen to the samples of that artists top rated songs and see if its right for you.

While its not a complete solution to your problems, its a good place to start.

Sometimes I take a chance on new bands and feel disgusted when I buy a crappy cd. Mastodon...eck. But that is a risk you have to take sometimes. Also go with what people who know you recommend and search info on that than go from there.

As far as classic rock goes, no one makes it anymore. Rock nowadays is classified as new rock. Metal is different though. There are so many types of metal its almost mind blowing.

You have to find whats right for you if you do like metal. There are some pretty talent metal bands out there and I understand listeners of classic rock are not used to the growling and probably will never get adjusted to it. Most the metal bands that sing sound really gay and really 80's though. aka power metal, dragon force, rhapsody. A lot of good metal bands have a great deal of singing and growling, but its not the type of growling that has no rythm or purpose (death metal).

I was raised on classic rock the began my early teens on Metallica. Now I listen to classic rock and most types of metal.

Stay away from punk (American Punk especially) it sucks. Stay away from emo. Stay away from hardcore (usually has no rythm or talent to be found but there are a few good bands in there). Stay away from Death Metal (no rythm, horrible singing with no talent).

I'd say if you want to check out metal at all then start off with Metal, metalcore, Melodic death metal.

If not and yo u want to stay with rock, I'm afraid your goin to have to settle with new rock. There has not been a band yet that has created classic rock in this era or decade.

Neshi · Oct 10, 2006, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRED

Congrats you've just revealed yourself to be an old fart. Every generation dislikes the next generations music and it gets worse as you get older. Accept this and move on, maybe even be a little more open minded and you'll appreciate some modern day music.

ok... im 18 but i share the same thought.. i guess im getting old too then...
Most, let me repeat, Most music just plain sucks... there are some songs i do like, but that is very rarely the case. But on the other hand.. i like some metal, some of the new rock mentioned..
i advice to OnDborder, if you got a computer on your work, go to Wolffm.com (this is the only online american webradio i know that plays 70,80 and 90ies rock music)

SFOSOK · Oct 10, 2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Neshi

ok... im 18 but i share the same thought.. i guess im getting old too then...
Most, let me repeat, Most music just plain sucks... there are some songs i do like, but that is very rarely the case. But on the other hand.. i like some metal, some of the new rock mentioned..
i advice to OnDborder, if you got a computer on your work, go to Wolffm.com (this is the only online american webradio i know that plays 70,80 and 90ies rock music)

What kind of metal? (specifically what bands). Perhaps I can recommend something.

Sandok · Oct 10, 2006, 02:53 PM

All of you are too old...

There is tons of great rock and metal out there. Actually, MUCH better than all of the old "famous" groups of old.

New music FTW!

SFOSOK · Oct 10, 2006, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandok

All of you are too old...

There is tons of great rock and metal out there. Actually, MUCH better than all of the old "famous" groups of old.

New music FTW!

Ouch, would have to disagree with you there man.

Nothing nowadays has topped original classical music, old jazz/blues, and classic rock. Most bands nowadays show skill not talent, originality, or creativity. And if they do it is usually one or two members of the band carrying the rest instead of all of them bringing something to the table.

Sandok · Oct 10, 2006, 05:21 PM

Well this all depends on your tastes. I simply can't stand anything older than 1990... It just sounds nasty, I fail to see the so called "talent". And for me, again no creativity or originality from the old guys.

But again, all depends on your social background, your age, your everything!

Neshi · Oct 10, 2006, 05:29 PM

some of the bands, evanescence, within temptation, sonata arctica, nightwish, iced earth, dream theater.
most of it is symphonic metal i guess...

OmegaRED · Oct 10, 2006, 05:32 PM

Don't get me wrong, I dislike most of the popular music today cause its so trite and has no emotion or lyrical power. The thing is there is so much music available that you can always find great music just don't expect to hear it on the local radio stations. In the 70's and 80's there would be only a few big bands everyone listened to now you have thousands of groups from all over the world and only the commercially viable ones are played on air so you need to go on the net and find the other great bands.

TheBlackCat · Oct 10, 2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRED

Congrats you've just revealed yourself to be an old fart. Every generation dislikes the next generations music and it gets worse as you get older. Accept this and move on, maybe even be a little more open minded and you'll appreciate some modern day music.

Not necessarily. My parents are in their 50s and like plenty of modern music. They are big 3 Doors Down fans, for one thing. Personally, I dislike the most majority of music from most eras. That still leaves a huge number of song I do like. I don't pretend to be able to tell what music is good and bad. But I do know what I like. And my tastes seem to be fairly evenly distributed going back to about the 1940's. I was raised on classic rock, but I am very open to newer stuff as well.

OnDborder · Oct 10, 2006, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRED

Congrats you've just revealed yourself to be an old fart. Every generation dislikes the next generations music and it gets worse as you get older. Accept this and move on, maybe even be a little more open minded and you'll appreciate some modern day music.

Maybe an "old fart". But I do like some current bands like I stated earlier, Flyleaf, Tool(absolutely RULES), Evanescence, some Chevelle, Bought they're CD's also..
But what I have kind of narrowed it down to is the rock that is on the "market" today is too lyrically, too much lyrics. In my opinion to cover the fact that the bands are limited in creativity and talent musically. With the exception of the the head-banging metal bands, I can't remember a good guitar rift played by any new bands.. All whiny lyrics..

Earlier rock still rocks the socks off the new stuff.

SFOSOK · Oct 10, 2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Neshi

some of the bands, evanescence, within temptation, sonata arctica, nightwish, iced earth, dream theater.
most of it is symphonic metal i guess...

You would probably like Melodic Death Metal

You can take a look at these bands. Dark Tranquility, Trivium(more thrash), and maybe even Unearth and Chimaira (more metalcore). You can also try some Soilwork.

If you like synth try Children of Bodom. They have a heavy symphonic touch to it.

Dark Tranquillity is your best bet though, I'll update you when I think about it more.

Edit: If you don't like the songs on Trivium's site because of the lyrics, the new cd's vocal's sounds spot on with Metallica.

A lot of things with Trivium is they create metal songs that make you say, "Damn, thats just one of those songs that had to be made".

Neshi · Oct 11, 2006, 07:33 AM

ill check it out

SFOSOK · Oct 11, 2006, 07:48 AM

Put somewhere else

~~bobbytomorow~~ · Oct 11, 2006, 08:18 AM

rock =old people, rap=teh gamers choice

SFOSOK · Oct 11, 2006, 08:29 AM

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rock =old people, rap=teh gamers choice

I like music from all genre's but I was born into classic rock and jazz (thank God). To each their own

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SexPistoL · Oct 20, 2006, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SFOSOK

Ouch, would have to disagree with you there man.

Nothing nowadays has topped original classical music, old jazz/blues, and classic rock. Most bands nowadays show skill not talent, originality, or creativity. And if they do it is usually one or two members of the band carrying the rest instead of all of them bringing something to the table.

A bit like Lennon & Mccartney did you mean..............

niceguyrichy · Oct 20, 2006, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SexPistoL

A bit like Lennon & Mccartney did you mean..............

riles9262 · Oct 20, 2006, 09:04 PM

All I need is zeppelin and sabbath

That trivium band seems kind of cool though, I'll check them out.

SFOSOK · Oct 21, 2006, 01:48 AM

Eh, Beatles sucked.

Yep I said it and I stand by it.

They f*ckin suck.

~~bobbytomorow~~ · Oct 21, 2006, 08:22 AM

lol Paul Macartney's old lady was an 80's porn skank, not that i wouldnt nail her though, one leg or not =\

OnDborder · Oct 30, 2006, 08:58 PM

Took my son and daughter to Evanescence concert.. Man, Amy Lee is gooood

If you get a chance to go see them,, go.. They Rock.

Oct 6, 2006, 10:46 PM	#1
OnDborder DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 222 Rep Power: 0	Current rock music Sucks.. Nothing like the "good 'Ol days".. I may be getting older but I still have an ear for talent. I hear very little talent these days. Nothing but blang-blang, whaa-whaa, throat-clearing crap.. Gee, wonder why the record companies don't make the money like they used to.. __________________ "I was so insane with wanting to get even, I willingly believed anything" “Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” Asus P5B-deluxe/6400/wc 2gigZ Crucial 6400 Evga8800gtx X-Fi Elite Pro 150gb Raptor/WDsata250 Silverstone 750

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SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	most artists are forced to push out albums when they hit major record labels (the suff you see in stores and hear on the radio). They make one decent song and ride on it for the rest of the album. There are good bands out there in rock and metal alike, your just not looking hard enough. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

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Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,377 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	some of the bands, evanescence, within temptation, sonata arctica, nightwish, iced earth, dream theater. most of it is symphonic metal i guess... __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

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OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	Don't get me wrong, I dislike most of the popular music today cause its so trite and has no emotion or lyrical power. The thing is there is so much music available that you can always find great music just don't expect to hear it on the local radio stations. In the 70's and 80's there would be only a few big bands everyone listened to now you have thousands of groups from all over the world and only the commercially viable ones are played on air so you need to go on the net and find the other great bands. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

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Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,377 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	ill check it out __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

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Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	All of you are too old... There is tons of great rock and metal out there. Actually, MUCH better than all of the old "famous" groups of old. New music FTW!

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Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	Well this all depends on your tastes. I simply can't stand anything older than 1990... It just sounds nasty, I fail to see the so called "talent". And for me, again no creativity or originality from the old guys. But again, all depends on your social background, your age, your everything!

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SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Put somewhere else __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!! Last edited by SFOSOK; Oct 19, 2006 at 06:14 AM.

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riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,842 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	All I need is zeppelin and sabbath That trivium band seems kind of cool though, I'll check them out. __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.

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SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Eh, Beatles sucked. Yep I said it and I stand by it. They fckin suck. __________________ Warning* - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

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~~bobbytomorow~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: vancouver Posts: 450 Rep Power: 0	lol Paul Macartney's old lady was an 80's porn skank, not that i wouldnt nail her though, one leg or not =\

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OnDborder DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 222 Rep Power: 0	Took my son and daughter to Evanescence concert.. Man, Amy Lee is gooood If you get a chance to go see them,, go.. They Rock. __________________ "I was so insane with wanting to get even, I willingly believed anything" “Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” Asus P5B-deluxe/6400/wc 2gigZ Crucial 6400 Evga8800gtx X-Fi Elite Pro 150gb Raptor/WDsata250 Silverstone 750 Last edited by OnDborder; Nov 5, 2006 at 08:21 PM.