Nvidias Quality Sucks.... OMG the Diffrence is HUGE!

ViRuS2k · Oct 7, 2006, 12:38 AM

Just for a laugh i bought a Nvidia 7600 GT and took out my ATI X1900XTX

and i have come to the conclusion that Nvidias 2d and 3d quality trully 100% sucks compaired to ATI`s....

I wiped back in my ATI X1900XTX and what a diffrence in 2d and 3d quality..

now if that quality that Nvidia has with there lineup from 7600 GT right up to there latest lineup then im sorry to say it i feel sorry for NVIDIA users.

lol

rant overwith.. well not so much a rant more of a persional opinion....

:/

LHC · Oct 7, 2006, 01:33 AM

They're two completely different cards..

ViRuS2k · Oct 7, 2006, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LHC

They're two completely different cards..

Yes i understand that but i was testing quality not performance.

and under the tests i ran personaly.

NVIDIA`s 2d and 3d quality very much sucks compaired to ATI`s Superior quality...

~~bobbytomorow~~ · Oct 7, 2006, 03:46 AM

I agree, I had a cpl Nvidia cards in a row, then i made the switch to ATI and never looked back, its been 9800, x800 now a x1800, I think ppl just look at the frames in comparisons and decide on nvidia on that factor alone rather than the big picture.

Necrosis · Oct 7, 2006, 06:47 AM

2D I never seen a bit of difference, 3D ATI edges out Nvidia but not by a lot.

Judas · Oct 7, 2006, 07:37 AM

i've have a SLI configured 7800 and 7900 nvidia setup.

In comparison to the crossfire, the SLI is more mature.

But that's the only thing going for it imo.

The quality in overall saturation of the colors and various aspects of the 3d app texture and sharpness is dull and washed out.

Using DV on nvidia is a requirement, it's the only thing that'll liven it up to even remotely come close to it. But i find it's almost to much at one point and to little at another.

Plus, on a 2560x1600 monitor, the SLI runs poorly with top quality settings compared to that of the crossfire.

YES, i would agree, the overall quality of nvidia is disappointing in comparison to the ati's.

The driver setup however is pretty much identical. Stable and without much of any noticeable bugs or errors.

And in a single card solution, i find that most of the time, the ATI counter part vs nvidia produces a much nicer looking 2d/3d image to look at period.

CDsDontBurn · Oct 7, 2006, 08:31 AM

IMO, the only thing that i don't like about nVidia's cards when it comes to 3d stuff, is when there are many parallel lines close to each other. they tend to have a blurring effect.

but as to the original post, both cards are completely different. for a more equivalent comparison, you should have used a 7900gtx up against your x1900xtx. The extra pipelines, bandwith, and clock speeds make a world of difference for the quality in everything 3d. for 2d stuff, an mx400 works great for your desktop icons

ViRuS2k · Oct 8, 2006, 07:57 PM

lol you guys are nuts.

I tested the dam GPU for quality not Performance.

and im my eyes if i max the quality of ATI vs the same max settings on the Nvidia counter part the diffrences are HUGE in 2d and 3d quality....

Im not bias im just speaking the truth and no matter what way you paint Nvidia there quality just sucks completely in comparison to ATI counter part cards.

OmegaRED · Oct 8, 2006, 10:06 PM

I disagree and have seen plenty of side by side comparison videos showing quality in games with various tweaks on and off, at high quality games are nearly indistinguishable on Nvidia or ATI. Then there's the articles with enhance a small section of a screenshot to compare antialiasing and those tend to favor Nvidia if my memory serves me right.

I went from an X800 to a 7900GT and I only see a decrease in quality when the tweaks are activated, which didn't occur on my X800. Tweaks are just that so I don't hold it against Nvidia.

km52 · Oct 8, 2006, 11:14 PM

I totally agree...NVidia's 3D IQ sucks. I had a GF6800, but swapped it for a X800 as the GF renders its pictures with too much moiré, especially in racing games and fps. The ATi is way more friendly to my eyes than the NV card.

Check out the screenshot in this article by digit-life:

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/..._settings.html

Also highly recommend are the two BF2 videos made by firingsquad, showing the same scene on both vendor's.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...st06/page5.asp

SFOSOK · Oct 9, 2006, 02:26 AM

your obviously not using our DHZP drivers for Nvidia ; ).

CDsDontBurn · Oct 9, 2006, 04:05 AM

so i d/led the video clips privided, but i get an error in wmp saying it can't play the clips. do i need a codec or something to play them?

firyace · Oct 9, 2006, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by km52

I totally agree...NVidia's 3D IQ sucks. I had a GF6800, but swapped it for a X800 as the GF renders its pictures with too much moiré, especially in racing games and fps. The ATi is way more friendly to my eyes than the NV card.

Check out the screenshot in this article by digit-life:

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/..._settings.html

Also highly recommend are the two BF2 videos made by firingsquad, showing the same scene on both vendor's.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...st06/page5.asp

After seeing this, I totally agree

You would actually see the difference more when you are looking at lowend cards too. Such as Ati 1300 >>>>>>>> 7300

BlueMak · Oct 9, 2006, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

so i d/led the video clips privided, but i get an error in wmp saying it can't play the clips. do i need a codec or something to play them?

In the article it clearly states you need FRAPS to play the files. Though if you have videonlan I would suggest trying it first before installing fraps.

CDsDontBurn · Oct 9, 2006, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMak

In the article it clearly states you need FRAPS to play the files. Though if you have videonlan I would suggest trying it first before installing fraps.

lol...guess i should read stuff first

. i'll install fraps when i get home

.

Judas · Oct 10, 2006, 07:50 PM

Video clips mean shit vs actually seeing the 2 sucker head to head side by side, on identical machines and screens.

Nvidia quality vs ati is enourmously obvious... prerecorded clip isn't going to show much, not enless they are RAW AVI's @ 1280x800 for both, which would be 4gb for roughly 1 minute of video.

BWX · Oct 11, 2006, 06:34 AM

With all the optimizations turned OFF in the NV CP, the quality is very good. Gamma correct AA looks awesome, as well as transparency antialiasing, either multisampling or supersampling.. both look great.

It is when you start turning on all the optimizations that things go down hill.. more so with NV than ATI.

I see no difference whatsoever in 2D quality.

Sandok · Oct 11, 2006, 07:15 AM

I want compariason pics folks!

BWX · Oct 11, 2006, 07:24 AM

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/..._settings.html

SFOSOK · Oct 11, 2006, 11:01 PM

Try these. I'm sure you will be more than happy with the image quality with your Nvidia card

~~bobbytomorow~~ · Oct 12, 2006, 09:13 AM

So basically this thread completely proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Nvidia sucks.

SFOSOK · Oct 12, 2006, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbytomorow

So basically this thread completely proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Nvidia sucks.

Threads in the flame warzone prove nothing.

e!i · Oct 12, 2006, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViRuS2k

Just for a laugh i bought a Nvidia 7600 GT and took out my ATI X1900XTX

and i have come to the conclusion that Nvidias 2d and 3d quality trully 100% sucks compaired to ATI`s....

I wiped back in my ATI X1900XTX and what a diffrence in 2d and 3d quality..

now if that quality that Nvidia has with there lineup from 7600 GT right up to there latest lineup then im sorry to say it i feel sorry for NVIDIA users.

lol

rant overwith.. well not so much a rant more of a persional opinion....

:/

Hey, just for a laugh send me that card, since you seem to be loaded and can buy £100 cards on a whim. I could get get better fps with that card, and if you sent it to me, i'd totally agree with everthing you said

e-mail me freddonut@msn.com

rebels · Oct 12, 2006, 05:42 PM

just burn it then if u don't like it!!!!! ati or nvidia it's the same... just to play games... if u realy want watching movie buy dvd player or make ur own cinema!!!!!

Retarp · Oct 12, 2006, 11:07 PM

I'll agree with ATI having higher IQ. I had a TI4200 back in the day that had some hardware conlics with my computer. I switched to a ATI 9000pro and was like HOLY CARP!!! Tron2.0 looked beatiful on that card. So much so that my roomates girl was over when we were playing the discs against each other and she commented how much nicer my game looked than his. Spoiled all the fun from him having just bought his TI4800 the week before

Also right when the Nvidia 5700 came out, a Nvidiot friend of mine bought one and was playing some cames saying he loved his new card. I about puked when I saw all the texture corruption that series was famous for. He came over to my computer and his eyes about popped out when he saw how pretty my 9800 was.

I also feel ATI's hardware is on a higher scale than Nvidia's. I mean who only funnels HALF the hot air out the back of the case?

SFOSOK · Oct 12, 2006, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retarp

I'll agree with ATI having higher IQ. I had a TI4200 back in the day that had some hardware conlics with my computer. I switched to a ATI 9000pro and was like HOLY CARP!!! Tron2.0 looked beatiful on that card. So much so that my roomates girl was over when we were playing the discs against each other and she commented how much nicer my game looked than his. Spoiled all the fun from him having just bought his TI4800 the week before

Also right when the Nvidia 5700 came out, a Nvidiot friend of mine bought one and was playing some cames saying he loved his new card. I about puked when I saw all the texture corruption that series was famous for. He came over to my computer and his eyes about popped out when he saw how pretty my 9800 was.

I also feel ATI's hardware is on a higher scale than Nvidia's. I mean who only funnels HALF the hot air out the back of the case?

O you mean the gigantic loud coolers (made up of a fan and one giant block of copper) that funnel all the air to the outside because they cannot advance their technology just increase clock speed?

Worst coolers ever.

As far as IQ goes, try both those cards (take some pictures) with both of the new DHZP sets (ATI and Nvidia).

Judas · Oct 13, 2006, 12:03 AM

I've yet to have a single issues with the loudness of my x1900's.. i haven't a clue what anyone is talking about when using ATI's official drivers...

vb-kun · Oct 13, 2006, 07:07 AM

Hey i loved this post...
I have a long video card story wit video quality. So i'm a video card consumer and i don't give a shit to 3dmark tests so it maybe a interstin opnion.

My first vidcard was a tridentblade 3d, years years ago. I changed to a gforce4, i instantly noticed how crap my video's color had become... even if i tried i could never get them as vivid and alive as in trident's.

Years after that ( since i don't care to 3d i don't need to keep upgradin all the time) i decided to change to ati, after sein a dvd on my friend's pc. He had a ati and in the moment i saw the video on it i saw the same vivid colors that i saw on my trident card.

So i got a radeon 9600pro, In the instant i turned it on i noticed how diferent it was. I was just a lot disapointed wit ati because the drivers had loads of bugs on hardware decodin for mpeg2 (wich i needed for hdtv ts playback).

But some months went trought and nvidia's hugly points got out of my mind. So i decided to check nvidia again... since i still had those loads of driver bugs and in my memory nvidia wasn't so ugly anymore.

Then one month ago I bought then a cheap nvidia, xfx 6200. Installed and got pretty happy wit no bugs in hardware decoding, tv outputing and etc.

Then i lended my ati to my brother.... when he started windows, even before installing drivers he shouted "jesus the colors are really better!"

That was around 2 months ago and i know he had a very expansive nvidia card (he's a "i care only for fps" person). So his nvidia card was for sure better then my ati.

Well sometime passed, i decided use again my ati.... missin the colors and beautti in hd videos and well... i can say for sure now that i rather a slower ati wit some bugs in driver then a ugly nvidia. =x

that's my story so far so
i agree... nvidia sux

vb-kun · Oct 13, 2006, 07:10 AM

I forgot the most important point... nvidia color sux because it uses TV COLOR SCALE, wit just one chroma signal, ATI and ALL OTHER video card makers use PC color scale, wich has 2 chroma signals makin colors more vivid and alive. I just wonder why nvidia still does use it.

~~bobbytomorow~~ · Oct 13, 2006, 08:08 AM

Only a grade A loser would use Nvidia imho.

Oct 7, 2006, 12:38 AM	#1
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	Nvidias Quality Sucks.... OMG the Diffrence is HUGE! Just for a laugh i bought a Nvidia 7600 GT and took out my ATI X1900XTX and i have come to the conclusion that Nvidias 2d and 3d quality trully 100% sucks compaired to ATI`s.... I wiped back in my ATI X1900XTX and what a diffrence in 2d and 3d quality.. now if that quality that Nvidia has with there lineup from 7600 GT right up to there latest lineup then im sorry to say it i feel sorry for NVIDIA users. lol rant overwith.. well not so much a rant more of a persional opinion.... :/

Oct 7, 2006, 01:33 AM	#2
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	They're two completely different cards.. __________________

Oct 7, 2006, 08:31 AM	#7
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	IMO, the only thing that i don't like about nVidia's cards when it comes to 3d stuff, is when there are many parallel lines close to each other. they tend to have a blurring effect. but as to the original post, both cards are completely different. for a more equivalent comparison, you should have used a 7900gtx up against your x1900xtx. The extra pipelines, bandwith, and clock speeds make a world of difference for the quality in everything 3d. for 2d stuff, an mx400 works great for your desktop icons __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

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OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,626 Rep Power: 171 System Specs	I disagree and have seen plenty of side by side comparison videos showing quality in games with various tweaks on and off, at high quality games are nearly indistinguishable on Nvidia or ATI. Then there's the articles with enhance a small section of a screenshot to compare antialiasing and those tend to favor Nvidia if my memory serves me right. I went from an X800 to a 7900GT and I only see a decrease in quality when the tweaks are activated, which didn't occur on my X800. Tweaks are just that so I don't hold it against Nvidia. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Oct 9, 2006, 02:26 AM	#11
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	your obviously not using our DHZP drivers for Nvidia ; ). __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Oct 7, 2006, 03:46 AM	#4
~~bobbytomorow~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: vancouver Posts: 450 Rep Power: 0	I agree, I had a cpl Nvidia cards in a row, then i made the switch to ATI and never looked back, its been 9800, x800 now a x1800, I think ppl just look at the frames in comparisons and decide on nvidia on that factor alone rather than the big picture.

Oct 7, 2006, 06:47 AM	#5
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	2D I never seen a bit of difference, 3D ATI edges out Nvidia but not by a lot.

Oct 8, 2006, 07:57 PM	Thread Starter #8
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	lol you guys are nuts. I tested the dam GPU for quality not Performance. and im my eyes if i max the quality of ATI vs the same max settings on the Nvidia counter part the diffrences are HUGE in 2d and 3d quality.... Im not bias im just speaking the truth and no matter what way you paint Nvidia there quality just sucks completely in comparison to ATI counter part cards.

Oct 8, 2006, 11:14 PM	#10
km52 ! Overclocked ! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Rostock / Germany Posts: 53 Rep Power: 0	I totally agree...NVidia's 3D IQ sucks. I had a GF6800, but swapped it for a X800 as the GF renders its pictures with too much moiré, especially in racing games and fps. The ATi is way more friendly to my eyes than the NV card. Check out the screenshot in this article by digit-life: http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/..._settings.html Also highly recommend are the two BF2 videos made by firingsquad, showing the same scene on both vendor's. http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...st06/page5.asp

Oct 9, 2006, 04:05 AM	#12
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	so i d/led the video clips privided, but i get an error in wmp saying it can't play the clips. do i need a codec or something to play them? __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Oct 11, 2006, 06:34 AM	#17
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	With all the optimizations turned OFF in the NV CP, the quality is very good. Gamma correct AA looks awesome, as well as transparency antialiasing, either multisampling or supersampling.. both look great. It is when you start turning on all the optimizations that things go down hill.. more so with NV than ATI. I see no difference whatsoever in 2D quality.

Oct 11, 2006, 07:15 AM	#18
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	I want compariason pics folks!

Oct 11, 2006, 07:24 AM	#19
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/..._settings.html

Oct 11, 2006, 11:01 PM	#20
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	Try these. I'm sure you will be more than happy with the image quality with your Nvidia card __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Oct 12, 2006, 09:13 AM	#21
~~bobbytomorow~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: vancouver Posts: 450 Rep Power: 0	So basically this thread completely proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Nvidia sucks.

Oct 12, 2006, 05:42 PM	#24
rebels -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: EaSt JaV@ Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	just burn it then if u don't like it!!!!! ati or nvidia it's the same... just to play games... if u realy want watching movie buy dvd player or make ur own cinema!!!!! __________________ DFi Lanparty Ultra 4-D + A64 3000+ (Venice) Kingston KVR BT-4D 1 gig Samsung Spinpoint 160 GB Seagate 200 GB Gigabyte 6600GT TT 550 Watt

Oct 12, 2006, 11:07 PM	#25
Retarp DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 119 Rep Power: 0	I'll agree with ATI having higher IQ. I had a TI4200 back in the day that had some hardware conlics with my computer. I switched to a ATI 9000pro and was like HOLY CARP!!! Tron2.0 looked beatiful on that card. So much so that my roomates girl was over when we were playing the discs against each other and she commented how much nicer my game looked than his. Spoiled all the fun from him having just bought his TI4800 the week before Also right when the Nvidia 5700 came out, a Nvidiot friend of mine bought one and was playing some cames saying he loved his new card. I about puked when I saw all the texture corruption that series was famous for. He came over to my computer and his eyes about popped out when he saw how pretty my 9800 was. I also feel ATI's hardware is on a higher scale than Nvidia's. I mean who only funnels HALF the hot air out the back of the case?

Oct 13, 2006, 07:07 AM	#28
vb-kun HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Hey i loved this post... I have a long video card story wit video quality. So i'm a video card consumer and i don't give a shit to 3dmark tests so it maybe a interstin opnion. My first vidcard was a tridentblade 3d, years years ago. I changed to a gforce4, i instantly noticed how crap my video's color had become... even if i tried i could never get them as vivid and alive as in trident's. Years after that ( since i don't care to 3d i don't need to keep upgradin all the time) i decided to change to ati, after sein a dvd on my friend's pc. He had a ati and in the moment i saw the video on it i saw the same vivid colors that i saw on my trident card. So i got a radeon 9600pro, In the instant i turned it on i noticed how diferent it was. I was just a lot disapointed wit ati because the drivers had loads of bugs on hardware decodin for mpeg2 (wich i needed for hdtv ts playback). But some months went trought and nvidia's hugly points got out of my mind. So i decided to check nvidia again... since i still had those loads of driver bugs and in my memory nvidia wasn't so ugly anymore. Then one month ago I bought then a cheap nvidia, xfx 6200. Installed and got pretty happy wit no bugs in hardware decoding, tv outputing and etc. Then i lended my ati to my brother.... when he started windows, even before installing drivers he shouted "jesus the colors are really better!" That was around 2 months ago and i know he had a very expansive nvidia card (he's a "i care only for fps" person). So his nvidia card was for sure better then my ati. Well sometime passed, i decided use again my ati.... missin the colors and beautti in hd videos and well... i can say for sure now that i rather a slower ati wit some bugs in driver then a ugly nvidia. =x that's my story so far so i agree... nvidia sux

Oct 13, 2006, 07:10 AM	#29
vb-kun HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	I forgot the most important point... nvidia color sux because it uses TV COLOR SCALE, wit just one chroma signal, ATI and ALL OTHER video card makers use PC color scale, wich has 2 chroma signals makin colors more vivid and alive. I just wonder why nvidia still does use it.

Oct 13, 2006, 08:08 AM	#30
~~bobbytomorow~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: vancouver Posts: 450 Rep Power: 0	Only a grade A loser would use Nvidia imho.