NVIDIA AND ATI ARE THE SAME COMPANY!!!

JavaFox · Jun 3, 2002, 09:02 AM

OH MY LORD, I can't believe this! I was playing around at Network Solutions' website, whoising different websites, when I stumbled upon this! If you read the whois entries, they are IDENTICAL! Only the name of company is different! I did a little more research, and, according to the Federal Trade Commission (link), they are both the same company! Same filings under the SEC, same Board of Directors.

Delve deeper and you will find that the head engineer in charge of coordinating product development of the R300 is in charge of NV30! (link)

I cannot fucking believe this!

And Kevin Tse? He's the Chief Information Officer of both companies! The link provided is a leaked customer support e-mail, in which Mr. Tse reveals that his PC has an ATi card in it, and is asking for help on installing a GeForce! (link). I can only conclude that Tse was, in fact, an ATi employee and that, recently, the two companies merged.

I am not making this up. Later, I found this page! This page, maintained by the leading invesigative reporting magazine in Taiwan, undeniably confirms the merger of the two companies. (link)

----------
NVidia Corp (NVIDIA-DOM)
2721 San Tomas Express Way
Santa Clara, CA 95050
US

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Tse, Kevin (KT2845) ktse@EXCHANGE.NVIDIA.COM
NVidia Corp

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ATI Technologies Inc. (ATI10-DOM)
2721 San Tomas Express Way
Santa Clara, CA 95050
US

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Tse, Kevin (KT2845) ktse@EXCHANGE.ATI.COM
ATI Technologies Inc

alewisa · Jun 3, 2002, 10:07 AM

Doing a whois lookup from Demon shows different addresses for the two companies...

Registrant:
ATI Technologies Inc. (ATI10-DOM)
33 Commerce Valley Drive East
Thornhill, ON L3T 7N6
CA

Domain Name: ATI.COM

Administrative Contact:
Cragg, Louise (LCH340) lcragg@ATI.COM
ATI Technologies Inc
33 Commerce Valley Drive East
Thornhill, ON L3T 7N6
CA
905-882-2610 (FAX) 905-882-1585
Technical Contact:
Chow, Jason (JCA868) jason@ATI.COM
ATI Technologies Inc
33 Commerce Valley Drive East
Thornhill, ON L3T 7N6
CA
905 882 2600 (FAX) 905-882-1585

Record expires on 12-May-2003.
Record created on 12-May-1999.
Database last updated on 3-Jun-2002 06:04:23 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.ATITECH.CA 209.50.91.129
NS2.ATITECH.CA 207.167.207.80
MX2.ATI.COM 204.176.13.66

Registrant:
NVidia Corp (NVIDIA-DOM)
2721 San Tomas Express Way
Santa Clara, CA 95050
US

Domain Name: NVIDIA.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Tse, Kevin (KT2845) ktse@EXCHANGE.NVIDIA.COM
NVidia Corp
2701 San Tomas Express Way
Santa Clara, CA 95050
US
(408)486-2888 (408)486-4888

Record expires on 21-Apr-2010.
Record created on 20-Apr-1993.
Database last updated on 3-Jun-2002 06:06:15 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.NVIDIA.COM 209.213.198.70
DNS1.NVIDIA.COM 209.249.170.16

Don't know about the SEC stuff.

RadeonMAXX · Jun 3, 2002, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JavaFox
OH MY LORD, I can't believe this! I was playing around at Network Solutions' website, whoising different websites, when I stumbled upon this! If you read the whois entries, they are IDENTICAL! Only the name of company is different! I did a little more research, and, according to the Federal Trade Commission (link), they are both the same company! Same filings under the SEC, same Board of Directors.

Delve deeper and you will find that the head engineer in charge of coordinating product development of the R300 is in charge of NV30! (link)

I cannot ****ing believe this!

And Kevin Tse? He's the Chief Information Officer of both companies! The link provided is a leaked customer support e-mail, in which Mr. Tse reveals that his PC has an ATi card in it, and is asking for help on installing a GeForce! (link). I can only conclude that Tse was, in fact, an ATi employee and that, recently, the two companies merged.

I am not making this up. Later, I found this page! This page, maintained by the leading invesigative reporting magazine in Taiwan, undeniably confirms the merger of the two companies. (link)

----------
NVidia Corp (NVIDIA-DOM)
2721 San Tomas Express Way
Santa Clara, CA 95050
US

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Tse, Kevin (KT2845) ktse@EXCHANGE.NVIDIA.COM
NVidia Corp

----------

ATI Technologies Inc. (ATI10-DOM)
2721 San Tomas Express Way
Santa Clara, CA 95050
US

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Tse, Kevin (KT2845) ktse@EXCHANGE.ATI.COM
ATI Technologies Inc

That SEC link you gave, can you give some direct links pointin there they same company

If this is true, how could it be anyway?

JavaFox · Jun 3, 2002, 02:32 PM

What the...? The whois lookups I did produced the data I previously posted -- those were direct copy/pastes. I'll have to do search a bit for the SEC filings, but the AsiaMoney expose` is pretty hard to argue with!!

JavaFox · Jun 3, 2002, 02:40 PM

I was just looking through the whois entries on the two respective companies and they have, indeed changed. In fact, there is evidence of this change, as both entries say:

Database last updated on 3-Jun-2002 06:06:15 EDT

I think this is extremely suspicious.

RadeonMAXX, I don't know how this can be true, but all I've found points exactly towards that fact -- ATi and NVDA had the same whois entries, the same Board of Directors, the same SEC statements, and, as the AsiaMoney site clearly and most and irrefutably illustrates, the same technicians and staff, as well as one integrated product line.

Midnight_sky · Jun 3, 2002, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JavaFox

I think this is extremely suspicious.

I think you are extremely full of shit.

digitalwanderer · Jun 3, 2002, 03:56 PM

'Cause I could have sworn that April 1st already passed.

Methinks it was a database error more than anything else...although it WOULD go a long way towards explaining the month long info/leak black-out from both companies....

Dyre Straits · Jun 3, 2002, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by digitalwanderer
'Cause I could have sworn that April 1st already passed.

Methinks it was a database error more than anything else...although it WOULD go a long way towards explaining the month long info/leak black-out from both companies....

I think it's an April Fool's joke that has refused to die.

Dyre Straits

Ryoko · Jun 3, 2002, 05:16 PM

notice that the only links he provided are either to the site's homepage or in different languages.

alewisa · Jun 3, 2002, 06:03 PM

[quote]Originally posted by JavaFox
[b]I was just looking through the whois entries on the two respective companies and they have, indeed changed. In fact, there is evidence of this change, as both entries say:

Database last updated on 3-Jun-2002 06:06:15 EDT

I think this is extremely suspicious.

As did all the other whois searches I did today. Thats the date of the last database update, not the last edit of the particular record returned... Remember, the root DNS databases are always being updated, as domains expire/change...

JavaFox · Jun 4, 2002, 05:45 PM

Sheesh, I thought I'd fool at least one person!

Well, when you make it up in five minutes, it's hard to be convincing, I guess.

alewisa · Jun 5, 2002, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JavaFox
Sheesh, I thought I'd fool at least one person!

Well, when you make it up in five minutes, it's hard to be convincing, I guess.

Well, I'll laugh. It was amusing for five minutes... (JF - 'pect some serious flaming for that)

JavaFox · Jun 5, 2002, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by alewisa
JF - 'pect some serious flaming for that

BRING it!

Ryoko · Jun 5, 2002, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alewisa
It was amusing for five minutes...

alewisa · Jun 6, 2002, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ryoko

Oh c'mon, I was trying not to hurt the poor boy's feelings. All that hard work he went to, he might have cried if no one even appeared to be taken in by it.

I was mildly amused for all of 7 seconds then.

Jun 3, 2002, 09:02 AM	#1
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	NVIDIA AND ATI ARE THE SAME COMPANY!!! OH MY LORD, I can't believe this! I was playing around at Network Solutions' website, whoising different websites, when I stumbled upon this! If you read the whois entries, they are IDENTICAL! Only the name of company is different! I did a little more research, and, according to the Federal Trade Commission (link), they are both the same company! Same filings under the SEC, same Board of Directors. Delve deeper and you will find that the head engineer in charge of coordinating product development of the R300 is in charge of NV30! (link) I cannot fucking believe this! And Kevin Tse? He's the Chief Information Officer of both companies! The link provided is a leaked customer support e-mail, in which Mr. Tse reveals that his PC has an ATi card in it, and is asking for help on installing a GeForce! (link). I can only conclude that Tse was, in fact, an ATi employee and that, recently, the two companies merged. I am not making this up. Later, I found this page! This page, maintained by the leading invesigative reporting magazine in Taiwan, undeniably confirms the merger of the two companies. (link) ---------- NVidia Corp (NVIDIA-DOM) 2721 San Tomas Express Way Santa Clara, CA 95050 US Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: Tse, Kevin (KT2845) ktse@EXCHANGE.NVIDIA.COM NVidia Corp ---------- ATI Technologies Inc. (ATI10-DOM) 2721 San Tomas Express Way Santa Clara, CA 95050 US Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: Tse, Kevin (KT2845) ktse@EXCHANGE.ATI.COM ATI Technologies Inc

Jun 3, 2002, 10:07 AM	#2
alewisa DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kendal, UK Posts: 260 Rep Power: 0	Doing a whois lookup from Demon shows different addresses for the two companies... Registrant: ATI Technologies Inc. (ATI10-DOM) 33 Commerce Valley Drive East Thornhill, ON L3T 7N6 CA Domain Name: ATI.COM Administrative Contact: Cragg, Louise (LCH340) lcragg@ATI.COM ATI Technologies Inc 33 Commerce Valley Drive East Thornhill, ON L3T 7N6 CA 905-882-2610 (FAX) 905-882-1585 Technical Contact: Chow, Jason (JCA868) jason@ATI.COM ATI Technologies Inc 33 Commerce Valley Drive East Thornhill, ON L3T 7N6 CA 905 882 2600 (FAX) 905-882-1585 Record expires on 12-May-2003. Record created on 12-May-1999. Database last updated on 3-Jun-2002 06:04:23 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ATITECH.CA 209.50.91.129 NS2.ATITECH.CA 207.167.207.80 MX2.ATI.COM 204.176.13.66 Registrant: NVidia Corp (NVIDIA-DOM) 2721 San Tomas Express Way Santa Clara, CA 95050 US Domain Name: NVIDIA.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: Tse, Kevin (KT2845) ktse@EXCHANGE.NVIDIA.COM NVidia Corp 2701 San Tomas Express Way Santa Clara, CA 95050 US (408)486-2888 (408)486-4888 Record expires on 21-Apr-2010. Record created on 20-Apr-1993. Database last updated on 3-Jun-2002 06:06:15 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: NS.NVIDIA.COM 209.213.198.70 DNS1.NVIDIA.COM 209.249.170.16 Don't know about the SEC stuff. __________________ TRS-80, dual 5.25", 32K C-64 o/c to 2Mhz, 1541 with PhantomDOS Amiga 4000/040@66Mhz, C64-3D, 64mb, 4.3gb SCSI Netware 4.11 And too many damn PC's to care!

Jun 3, 2002, 02:40 PM	Thread Starter #5
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	More Clues I was just looking through the whois entries on the two respective companies and they have, indeed changed. In fact, there is evidence of this change, as both entries say: Database last updated on 3-Jun-2002 06:06:15 EDT I think this is extremely suspicious. RadeonMAXX, I don't know how this can be true, but all I've found points exactly towards that fact -- ATi and NVDA had the same whois entries, the same Board of Directors, the same SEC statements, and, as the AsiaMoney site clearly and most and irrefutably illustrates, the same technicians and staff, as well as one integrated product line.

Jun 3, 2002, 03:56 PM	#7
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	What's todays date? 'Cause I could have sworn that April 1st already passed. Methinks it was a database error more than anything else...although it WOULD go a long way towards explaining the month long info/leak black-out from both companies.... __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Jun 3, 2002, 06:03 PM	#10
alewisa DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kendal, UK Posts: 260 Rep Power: 0	Re: More Clues [quote]Originally posted by JavaFox [b]I was just looking through the whois entries on the two respective companies and they have, indeed changed. In fact, there is evidence of this change, as both entries say: Database last updated on 3-Jun-2002 06:06:15 EDT I think this is extremely suspicious. As did all the other whois searches I did today. Thats the date of the last database update, not the last edit of the particular record returned... Remember, the root DNS databases are always being updated, as domains expire/change... __________________ TRS-80, dual 5.25", 32K C-64 o/c to 2Mhz, 1541 with PhantomDOS Amiga 4000/040@66Mhz, C64-3D, 64mb, 4.3gb SCSI Netware 4.11 And too many damn PC's to care!

Jun 3, 2002, 02:32 PM	Thread Starter #4
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	What the...? The whois lookups I did produced the data I previously posted -- those were direct copy/pastes. I'll have to do search a bit for the SEC filings, but the AsiaMoney expose` is pretty hard to argue with!!

Jun 3, 2002, 05:16 PM	#9
Ryoko American Soldier Join Date: May 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,725 Rep Power: 0	notice that the only links he provided are either to the site's homepage or in different languages.

Jun 4, 2002, 05:45 PM	Thread Starter #11
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Sheesh, I thought I'd fool at least one person! Well, when you make it up in five minutes, it's hard to be convincing, I guess.