Any Scientologists here?

AshG · Jun 4, 2002, 08:52 PM

Is anyone here into the scientology cult? I've never seen a more theologically inept, politically fascist, nor morally despicable "religion" in my life.

Ryoko · Jun 4, 2002, 09:07 PM

methinks you are liking the warzone

ahh scientology... "god created the heavens and the earth with a big bang"

AshG · Jun 4, 2002, 09:37 PM

Yes, I am liking the WarZone. It's the electronic equivalent of masturbation for getting rid of those nasty stress-releated headaches!

Actually, no, Scientology isn't the combination of religion and science. It's something completely unrelated and far nastier.

On the surface, Scientology is marketed as a way of purifying ones body and mind. Kindof like a Californiated Zen, you can achieve peace by ridding yourself of 'thetans' and other nasties. Once you pay the exhorbitant fees and are sumarily brainwashed by the occult, you are led into the "higher secrets," which claim that: (quoted from Xenu.Net

Quote:

Once upon a time (75 million years ago to be more precise) there was an alien galactic ruler named Xenu. Xenu was in charge of all the planets in this part of the galaxy including our own planet Earth, except in those days it was called Teegeeack.

Now Xenu had a problem. All of the 76 planets he controlled were overpopulated. Each planet had on average 178 billion people. He wanted to get rid of all the overpopulation so he had a plan.

Xenu took over complete control with the help of renegades to defeat the good people and the Loyal Officers. Then with the help of psychiatrists he called in billions of people for income tax inspections where they were instead given injections of alcohol and glycol mixed to paralyse them. Then they were put into space planes that looked exactly like DC8s (except they had rocket motors instead of propellers).

These DC8 space planes then flew to planet Earth where the paralysed people were stacked around the bases of volcanoes in their hundreds of billions. When they had finished stacking them around then H-bombs were lowered into the volcanoes. Xenu then detonated all the H-bombs at the same time and everyone was killed.

The story doesn't end there though. Since everyone has a soul (called a "thetan" in this story) then you have to trick souls into not coming back again. So while the hundreds of billions of souls were being blown around by the nuclear winds he had special electronic traps that caught all the souls in electronic beams (the electronic beams were sticky like fly-paper).

After he had captured all these souls he had them packed into boxes and taken to a few huge cinemas. There all the souls had to spend days watching special 3D motion pictures that told them what life should be like and many confusing things. In this film they were shown false pictures and told they were God, The Devil and Christ. In the story this process is called "implanting".

When the films ended and the souls left the cinema these souls started to stick together because since they had all seen the same film they thought they were the same people. They clustered in groups of a few thousand. Now because there were only a few living bodies left they stayed as clusters and inhabited these bodies.

As for Xenu, the Loyal Officers finally overthrew him and they locked him away in a mountain on one of the planets. He is kept in by a force-field powered by an eternal battery and Xenu is still alive today.

Sounds like something out of a science fiction movie? it should. [I]BattleField Earth[/I}, quite possibly the biggest piece of shit ever filmed, was written by L. Ron Hubbard to positively portray and extol the virtues of Scientology.

Scientology mistreats its lower-income members. Clearwater, Florida, USA, is home to a Scientology colony. Families live in run-down hotel rooms that have been bought by the cult. Adults work ludicrously insane hours, children are "brought up" in Scientologist-controlled schools and taught modified curriculum.

These "lowers" never see the pure shit that is being sold to the richer people, they just work themselves into oblivion waiting to reach a next level that never comes. The only way to get past the glass ceiling of the lower levels is by paying. Once you've given $10k, $20k, or even $1 million to the church you're allowed access to the "real secrets", which I listed above.

You'd be amazed who is buying this junk. Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman are both Scientologists. The guy from Saturday Night Fever, Face/Off, and BattleField Earth (ok, so I can't remember his name right now, I've had a Guiness too many) is a major proponent of Scientology. Talk about big money wasters!

Dissing scientology is a big no-no. The website where I got all my information ( http://www.Xenu.org - it had around 2000 pages worth of testimonials, documentation, and evidence of illegal activity and political deceit) has been forced into closure by the HubbardHeads. If you leave Scientology, you're blacklisted for life as an enemy; if you portray Scientology as the cult it is, you're blacklisted for life as an enemy; if you bring any evidence forward of what they've done, they'll sue you into instanity and then probably dump your body into the river. I wouldn't put the latter past them, since they've done the former already.

Oh yeah, their symbol... That's not a starburst behind the Cross, that's an X over it. While I'll ignore any dipshit that disrespects my theological choices, pissing on those choices is just out of bounds. Too bad there's a sucker born ever minute that will buy into that fecal philosophy at the drop of a hat.

Edit: http://www.Xenu.net is now up and running again; I checked my facts and fixed a couple misquotes.

Ryoko · Jun 4, 2002, 09:56 PM

fucking christ, that has to be the stupidest eplanation of the creation of the world i've ever read. kinda makes you think what these people are smoking...

UberLord · Jun 4, 2002, 10:16 PM

Okay, that religious cult is a whole load of balloney that really needs to be shutdown.

But from a literary perspective, BattleField Earth is a very good sci-fi book

AshG · Jun 4, 2002, 10:29 PM

John Travolta is the other bigwig Scien-folly-gist I was thinking of.

Yeah, it's a load of horsehockey if there ever was one. And to believe, HollyWood movie stars are paying large percentages of their paychecks to believe in this stuff...

Dejitaru Shuurajo · Jun 4, 2002, 11:01 PM

Where can I buy stocks for this?

digitalwanderer · Jun 4, 2002, 11:08 PM

You don't get to know the whole truth until you make it into the final ring of the inner-circle, what the hell are you doing telling everyone?!?

I still find it hilarious that the scientologists still sue anyone who tries to publish that info, although I guess I can't blame them for keeping it a secret. It's even worse than that whole weird "christ" religion!

Ryoko · Jun 5, 2002, 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by digitalwanderer
It's even worse than that whole weird "christ" religion!

that's another topic.

it would probably be the most popular in the flame forum, so somebody else needs to post it

UberLord · Jun 5, 2002, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by Ryoko

it would probably be the most popular in the flame forum, so somebody else needs to post it

Get Billy to start the thread then

AshG · Jun 5, 2002, 04:10 PM

I'd start it, but I'd waffle under pressure and just give up in the ensuing turmoil. I've been wanting to tell some of those liberal left-wing hosers to keep their humanistic anti-religious hands out of my belief system, but never could get up the courage... The worst kind of battle is against someone who only has faith in his/herself - there's no accountability, and therefor it's just a melee of madness.

Ryoko · Jun 5, 2002, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by AshG
I'd start it, but I'd waffle under pressure and just give up in the ensuing turmoil. I've been wanting to tell some of those liberal left-wing hosers to keep their humanistic anti-religious hands out of my belief system, but never could get up the courage... The worst kind of battle is against someone who only has faith in his/herself - there's no accountability, and therefor it's just a melee of madness.

that's what makes it fun. cmon, man! you know you want to

Lamentation · Jun 6, 2002, 02:48 PM

L. Ron Hubbard was a genius. All this stuff coming out now happened after he died. Very few knew anything about his religion while he was alive because he was more hardassed than all these "scientologists" today put together.
Calling Scientology bogus or a cult is like saying wrestling is fake, unnecessary. The people who put up with the treatment they get from scientology need and deserve it.
L. Ron was a frikkin pulp writer who turned himself into GOD on earth. That's a pretty good accomplishment for just arranging words on paper. Koresh and Jim Jones did the same, but how many followers did they have, and is there anyone in their cult after their death? Plus, L. Ron made up his own religion out of thin air (pretty much). Sure, he hung out with Crowley and stole stuff from psychology and eastern philosophies, but the ONLY thing to keep people beleiving in the religion are the things he wrote down decades ago, there are no other references for these people to cite....It's kinda like they're still scared of his wrath hehe from beyond the grave. Maybe some of them would admit to beleiving in his future resurection.
All that stuff on the xeno. site only proves his greatness. It begs the question, "How the hell could he do all that stuff and get away with it?" Everything he ever said about himself was pretty much a lie, and the truth of his history (if you can even believe that) was far more outlandish.
Dunno bout the battlefield earth movie, but the book was great, as was his ten part opus mission earth. If you read those books, you realize that the bad guys and all the things they did represent HIM! He told everyone what he was like and the way he thought
in all his "fiction". His "non-fiction" was exactly what one of his bad-guys would do, but he couldn't put that into a fiction book, Dianetics was huge. So I guess he decided to live it and see if it would work, which it did.
You better beleive that all the stars that espouse scientology make damn good money doing it. John Travolta has more than one jet, and I dont mean private Lear jet either, he's got the big ones (I forget the numbers). I know welcome back Kotter was popular, but damn. He's not the highest paid actor by a long shot ( I dont think). Actually, maybe Travolta is the new Hubbard, he has the leverage. What would it do to scientology if he came out and told the truth about it?

Zubir · Jun 10, 2002, 08:48 PM

if you leave the cult, and run your mouth about them, they'll hire private detectives to find out everything you've ever done, then they'll sick their lawyers on you for slander and kill you with legal fees. same thing the catholic church does. there are dozens of sites on the web about scientology, go check it out.

also, the thing about the celebrities. the are huge resorts scientologists build to entertain their celebrity whores like royalty. yea, these actors are definitely paid to endorse scientology.

Jun 4, 2002, 08:52 PM	#1
AshG Gadget Life Owner Join Date: May 2002 Location: East TN Posts: 139 Rep Power: 0	Any Scientologists here? Is anyone here into the scientology cult? I've never seen a more theologically inept, politically fascist, nor morally despicable "religion" in my life. __________________ [color=navy]404_Error, Signature not found[/color] [color=black][color=black]AMD AthlonXP 2500 @ 11x200[/color] - [color=navy]DFI LanParty nForce2 Ultra Rev. B[/color] - [color=black]Thermalright SLK-900A w/ Thermaltake SmartFan[/color] - [color=navy]Corsair TwinX1024 3200XLL[/color] - [color=black]FIC Radeon 9800 Pro[/color] - [color=navy]Hitachi Deskstar 7K250 SATA[/color] - [color=black]WD Raptor 36GB[/color] - [color=navy]LiteOn SOHW-832S[/color] - [color=black]PC Power and Cooling 510W Deluxe[/color] - [color=navy]CoolerMaster CMStacker Case[/color][/color]

Jun 4, 2002, 10:16 PM	#5
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	Okay, that religious cult is a whole load of balloney that really needs to be shutdown. But from a literary perspective, BattleField Earth is a very good sci-fi book __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Jun 4, 2002, 10:29 PM	Thread Starter #6
AshG Gadget Life Owner Join Date: May 2002 Location: East TN Posts: 139 Rep Power: 0	John Travolta is the other bigwig Scien-folly-gist I was thinking of. Yeah, it's a load of horsehockey if there ever was one. And to believe, HollyWood movie stars are paying large percentages of their paychecks to believe in this stuff... __________________ [color=navy]404_Error, Signature not found[/color] [color=black][color=black]AMD AthlonXP 2500 @ 11x200[/color] - [color=navy]DFI LanParty nForce2 Ultra Rev. B[/color] - [color=black]Thermalright SLK-900A w/ Thermaltake SmartFan[/color] - [color=navy]Corsair TwinX1024 3200XLL[/color] - [color=black]FIC Radeon 9800 Pro[/color] - [color=navy]Hitachi Deskstar 7K250 SATA[/color] - [color=black]WD Raptor 36GB[/color] - [color=navy]LiteOn SOHW-832S[/color] - [color=black]PC Power and Cooling 510W Deluxe[/color] - [color=navy]CoolerMaster CMStacker Case[/color][/color]

Jun 4, 2002, 11:01 PM	#7
Dejitaru Shuurajo Mystical Strippers Thong Join Date: May 2002 Location: Inside a Stripper's Panties Posts: 87 Rep Power: 0	Where can I buy stocks for this? __________________ Proper previous preparation prevents piss poor performance, period.

Jun 4, 2002, 11:08 PM	#8
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	Hey, that information is supposed to be SECRET! You don't get to know the whole truth until you make it into the final ring of the inner-circle, what the hell are you doing telling everyone?!? I still find it hilarious that the scientologists still sue anyone who tries to publish that info, although I guess I can't blame them for keeping it a secret. It's even worse than that whole weird "christ" religion! __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Jun 4, 2002, 09:07 PM	#2
Ryoko American Soldier Join Date: May 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,725 Rep Power: 0	methinks you are liking the warzone ahh scientology... "god created the heavens and the earth with a big bang"

Jun 4, 2002, 09:56 PM	#4
Ryoko American Soldier Join Date: May 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,725 Rep Power: 0	fucking christ, that has to be the stupidest eplanation of the creation of the world i've ever read. kinda makes you think what these people are smoking...

Jun 5, 2002, 04:10 PM	Thread Starter #11
AshG Gadget Life Owner Join Date: May 2002 Location: East TN Posts: 139 Rep Power: 0	I'd start it, but I'd waffle under pressure and just give up in the ensuing turmoil. I've been wanting to tell some of those liberal left-wing hosers to keep their humanistic anti-religious hands out of my belief system, but never could get up the courage... The worst kind of battle is against someone who only has faith in his/herself - there's no accountability, and therefor it's just a melee of madness. __________________ [color=navy]404_Error, Signature not found[/color] [color=black][color=black]AMD AthlonXP 2500 @ 11x200[/color] - [color=navy]DFI LanParty nForce2 Ultra Rev. B[/color] - [color=black]Thermalright SLK-900A w/ Thermaltake SmartFan[/color] - [color=navy]Corsair TwinX1024 3200XLL[/color] - [color=black]FIC Radeon 9800 Pro[/color] - [color=navy]Hitachi Deskstar 7K250 SATA[/color] - [color=black]WD Raptor 36GB[/color] - [color=navy]LiteOn SOHW-832S[/color] - [color=black]PC Power and Cooling 510W Deluxe[/color] - [color=navy]CoolerMaster CMStacker Case[/color][/color]

Jun 6, 2002, 02:48 PM	#13
Lamentation DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2002 Location: TN Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	L. Ron Hubbard was a genius. All this stuff coming out now happened after he died. Very few knew anything about his religion while he was alive because he was more hardassed than all these "scientologists" today put together. Calling Scientology bogus or a cult is like saying wrestling is fake, unnecessary. The people who put up with the treatment they get from scientology need and deserve it. L. Ron was a frikkin pulp writer who turned himself into GOD on earth. That's a pretty good accomplishment for just arranging words on paper. Koresh and Jim Jones did the same, but how many followers did they have, and is there anyone in their cult after their death? Plus, L. Ron made up his own religion out of thin air (pretty much). Sure, he hung out with Crowley and stole stuff from psychology and eastern philosophies, but the ONLY thing to keep people beleiving in the religion are the things he wrote down decades ago, there are no other references for these people to cite....It's kinda like they're still scared of his wrath hehe from beyond the grave. Maybe some of them would admit to beleiving in his future resurection. All that stuff on the xeno. site only proves his greatness. It begs the question, "How the hell could he do all that stuff and get away with it?" Everything he ever said about himself was pretty much a lie, and the truth of his history (if you can even believe that) was far more outlandish. Dunno bout the battlefield earth movie, but the book was great, as was his ten part opus mission earth. If you read those books, you realize that the bad guys and all the things they did represent HIM! He told everyone what he was like and the way he thought in all his "fiction". His "non-fiction" was exactly what one of his bad-guys would do, but he couldn't put that into a fiction book, Dianetics was huge. So I guess he decided to live it and see if it would work, which it did. You better beleive that all the stars that espouse scientology make damn good money doing it. John Travolta has more than one jet, and I dont mean private Lear jet either, he's got the big ones (I forget the numbers). I know welcome back Kotter was popular, but damn. He's not the highest paid actor by a long shot ( I dont think). Actually, maybe Travolta is the new Hubbard, he has the leverage. What would it do to scientology if he came out and told the truth about it?

Jun 10, 2002, 08:48 PM	#14
Zubir DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	if you leave the cult, and run your mouth about them, they'll hire private detectives to find out everything you've ever done, then they'll sick their lawyers on you for slander and kill you with legal fees. same thing the catholic church does. there are dozens of sites on the web about scientology, go check it out. also, the thing about the celebrities. the are huge resorts scientologists build to entertain their celebrity whores like royalty. yea, these actors are definitely paid to endorse scientology. __________________ I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.