First Clawhammer benchmarks

Zardon · Jun 7, 2002, 06:58 PM

by Drew Cullen

You know when a German tech site has got hold of a big story or review - it publishes an English-language version.

Germany's TecChannel has got a biggie: the first benchmarks of AMD's upcoming 64-bit ClawHammer desktop CPU gained after running a prototype machine on the AMD Computex booth in Taiwan through its paces for an hour.

There are more caveats than a lawyer's letter. The software used for testing was 32-bit; it's a prototype; the chip may have been locked at 800MHz, so a direct comparison should only be made with an 800MHz Athlon etcetera. etcetera. But the rig is stable, the ClawHammer performs up to 40 per cent faster than an Athlon running at the same clock rate. And the chip is cool - not even hand-hot in operation.

Also, TecChannel reckons that AMD is being too cautious at locking ClawHammer at 800MHz.

At Computex rumours were afloat that the clock rate will even be 1.6 GHz at the launching. Should this really come true and should Intel really cope with the aimed at 3 GHz, then AMD has to do much awareness training in regard of its model number -3400+ rumours say. The launching of AMD's first complete design in three years time seems to become a marketing problem much more than a technical problem - our first beats on the Hammer drum have been successful by all means.

http://www.tecchannel.de/hardware/937/index.html

raptora12 · Jun 8, 2002, 02:52 AM

Does AMD have a marketing deptment?

JavaFox · Jun 8, 2002, 08:58 AM

Intel spends more on advertising than AMD makes in a given year.

Jun 8, 2002, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Intel spends more on advertising than AMD makes in a given year.

meaning what exactly? they make a better product? lol, or they are experts on wasting money? I should have known you owned an intel product.

and they (intel) still make overpriced lameass products. sorry state of affairs isnt it. they make me sick the amount of money they WASTE every year on advertising. they really need to start spending it on DEVELOPMENT, i.e. making a good processor. not stupid guys prancing around in suits dancing to crappy tunes. at least we all know where their priorities lie (well the more intelligent of us do anyway, present company excluded).

AMD dont need to spend the gross annual income of a small country on advertising, their products sell themselves, not tits in gawdy coloured engineering suits.

what do intel do to sell their products? benchmarks? chip architecture details on television advertising? no, just fags in suits and stupid sound effects. great. welcome to the new millenium. welcome to progress.

Intels new theme tune should be the Rolling Stones, "cant get no satisfaction", its fast paced so those engineers could dance well to it, as they attempt to get their new processors to 10 gig to beat a 1.9ghz AMD XP chip.

still they make alot of money. but then again Kylie Minogue sells alot of records. its all marketing and image, and of course the intelligence of the average consumer being lower than a garden slug plays a major part .. if Intel didnt spend the amount of money they currently do to counterbalance substandard products, AMD would own the whole market. its only a matter of time anyway. even stupid people someday realise the error of their ways.

anyone want to flame me. take it to MY flaming section in this forum, ill be happy to toast you all. I own it anyway

Zardon · Jun 8, 2002, 10:12 AM

moved to flaming.

Silentst2000 · Jun 8, 2002, 06:50 PM

Those benchmarks are fake as far as i am concerned.

JavaFox · Jun 8, 2002, 08:41 PM

Haha, somebody is eager to prove himself. Just stating the facts, Billy-boy. 'Twasn't a flame thread when I posted.

I think the only reason Intel has any market share at all right now is because of marketing, but I hate it so much that you and I are the same side. Dumbfucks like you give true AMD fans a bad name.

Quote:

Originally posted by Billy
meaning what exactly? they make a better product? lol, or they are experts on wasting money? I should have known you owned an intel product.

and they (intel) still make overpriced lameass products. sorry state of affairs isnt it. they make me sick the amount of money they WASTE every year on advertising. they really need to start spending it on DEVELOPMENT, i.e. making a good processor. not stupid guys prancing around in suits dancing to crappy tunes. at least we all know where their priorities lie (well the more intelligent of us do anyway, present company excluded).

AMD dont need to spend the gross annual income of a small country on advertising, their products sell themselves, not tits in gawdy coloured engineering suits.

what do intel do to sell their products? benchmarks? chip architecture details on television advertising? no, just fags in suits and stupid sound effects. great. welcome to the new millenium. welcome to progress.

Intels new theme tune should be the Rolling Stones, "cant get no satisfaction", its fast paced so those engineers could dance well to it, as they attempt to get their new processors to 10 gig to beat a 1.9ghz AMD XP chip.

still they make alot of money. but then again Kylie Minogue sells alot of records. its all marketing and image, and of course the intelligence of the average consumer being lower than a garden slug plays a major part .. if Intel didnt spend the amount of money they currently do to counterbalance substandard products, AMD would own the whole market. its only a matter of time anyway. even stupid people someday realise the error of their ways.

anyone want to flame me. take it to MY flaming section in this forum, ill be happy to toast you all. I own it anyway

Jun 8, 2002, 08:50 PM

true AMD fan? the only true thing you are is a tit. and im 99percent sure you are a P4 or celeron owner regardless of what you say.

JavaFox · Jun 10, 2002, 04:41 AM

I'm a real fan, Billy. You just claim to support AMD because your illiterate friends told you, through their shit-stained teeth, that "they herd that ay-em-dee iz a bitter deal." You are the lowest form of PC user -- you uninformed purple-pissing bandwagon kiddie.

You own the Flaming forum? Haha, whatever. That's why you can never open your mouth without getting burned to a crisp by every single DriverHeaven member, right? The only thing you are 'round here, Billy, is everyone's little whipping boy.

Jun 10, 2002, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JavaFox
That's why you can never open your mouth without getting burned to a crisp by every single DriverHeaven member, right? The only thing you are 'round here, Billy, is everyone's little whipping boy.

I like not being popular, thats the whole point of the flaming forum, you said little geek. im not here to make friends, unlike you. proves im flaming well, if everyone hates me lol.

as for the whipping boy, I really wish you would keep your sexual pastimes to yourself

JavaFox · Jun 10, 2002, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Billy
I like not being popular..

Wow, Billy, you're a psychiatrist's dream come true! Denial, megalomania, masochism, Oedipal desires, mental impairment -- DAMN, we could make a movie out of you, ya piss-stained little bitch.

Quote:

proves im flaming well, if everyone hates me lol.

Nah, if you flamed well, you would've gained a little respect around here. Nobody likes you 'cause you're a fucking moron -- not cause you know how to argue. It's not really a skill to be odious; you were born into it. Maybe the herpes you inherited from your mom is making you crazy -- but let's get this straight: you can't flame worth a damn.

But don't go away, Billy. This place wouldn't be the same without your foul stench. We'll tire of you eventually -- but for the time being, I think everyone gets a kick out of setting your stupid ass ablaze.

Doomtrooper · Jun 11, 2002, 03:23 AM

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Originally posted by Silentst2000
Those benchmarks are fake as far as i am concerned.

Nope...right on the money actually...approx 40% as what AMD has stated since conception..

Entire artcile here..

http://www.zive.cz/H/PCtuning/AR.asp...=4&EXPS=&EXPA=

Silentst2000 · Jun 17, 2002, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doomtrooper
Nope...right on the money actually...approx 40% as what AMD has stated since conception..

Entire artcile here..

http://www.zive.cz/H/PCtuning/AR.asp...=4&EXPS=&EXPA=

Bullshit. I saw that like over a year ago. Stupid projected bs scores.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Those benchmarks are fake as far as i'm concerned.

Not until i see the real thing then i'd give a damn.

Doomtrooper · Jun 17, 2002, 03:08 AM

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Originally posted by Silentst2000
Bullshit. I saw that like over a year ago. Stupid projected bs scores.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Those benchmarks are fake as far as i'm concerned.

Not until i see the real thing then i'd give a damn.

Educate yourself..

http://www.zive.cz/H/PCtuning/AR.asp...=4&EXPS=&EXPA=

That graph is from a offical AMD presentation extrapolating current CPU speeds, the original leak appeared on the Czech site showing some of the presentation slides...its for real baby.

JavaFox · Jun 17, 2002, 05:22 AM

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Originally posted by Doomtrooper
Educate yourself..

Speaking of education, head over to the Tbred Overclocking thread and watch as I dispel all Intel FUD and P4 Hype within a single, educational, and cream-filled post.

Tee hee, couldn't help it.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/thread.php?id=1450&p=2

Judas · Jun 17, 2002, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JavaFox
Speaking of education, head over to the Tbred Overclocking thread and watch as I dispel all Intel FUD and P4 Hype within a single, educational, and cream-filled post.

Tee hee, couldn't help it.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/thread.php?id=1450&p=2

twas a good read javafox..... twas a good read...

reno · Jun 17, 2002, 11:52 PM

Through some amazing anomaly the testers managed to get scores all rounded to a nice multiple of ten. I wish I could find out their amazing testing techniques so that I could get my machine to get exactly 8100 3dmarks and exactly 2400 for memory bandwidth in Sisoft Sandra!

God, how can even an AMD user believe these are "true, honest to god benchmark scores?" I'm sure if Intel released the same picture, except with prescott at 1500 points you would all relentlessly bash the results as "projected" and intel-biased.

Poop.

Judas · Jun 18, 2002, 11:30 PM

i consider anything well round.......well rounded.....

Silentst2000 · Jun 18, 2002, 11:39 PM

First of all.

You didn't dispell shit.

Second.

AMD released those scores?

Hmm...
even if it was true...which its not...you would think they would favor their product JUST A HAIR!.

Doomtrooper · Jun 19, 2002, 12:16 AM

We'll revisit this thread in 6 months

JavaFox · Jun 19, 2002, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Silentst2000
First of all.
You didn't dispell shit.

I didn't? I think I made such a strong argument, Silentst2000, that you don't even know where to begin replying to it. Am I wrong?

Why don't you all cruise over to that thread and see if Silent' here has posted in response?

Judas · Jun 19, 2002, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doomtrooper
We'll revisit this thread in 6 months

hmm...you'll have to do alot of digging after 6 months...since this forum has grown unbeleivably within a month and a half...

raptora12 · Jun 27, 2002, 08:11 AM

Silentst2000 · Jun 27, 2002, 08:29 PM

It's the name...
people search for "drivers" and they see driverheaven and think they can find all sorts of drivers for their computer.

~~ByteMe~~ · Jun 27, 2002, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JavaFox
Wow, Billy, you're a psychiatrist's dream come true! Denial, megalomania, masochism, Oedipal desires, mental impairment -- DAMN, we could make a movie out of you, ya piss-stained little bitch.

Nah, if you flamed well, you would've gained a little respect around here. Nobody likes you 'cause you're a ****ing moron -- not cause you know how to argue. It's not really a skill to be odious; you were born into it. Maybe the herpes you inherited from your mom is making you crazy -- but let's get this straight: you can't flame worth a damn.

But don't go away, Billy. This place wouldn't be the same without your foul stench. We'll tire of you eventually -- but for the time being, I think everyone gets a kick out of setting your stupid ass ablaze.

Are you always this tarded or are you making a special effort today? Stop using words that you have no idea what they mean and go back to playing with your lego's.

JavaFox · Jun 28, 2002, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ByteMe
Are you always this tarded or are you making a special effort today? Stop using words that you have no idea what they mean and go back to playing with your lego's.

We'll continue this conversation, ByteMe, when you can prove to me that you can compose an intelligent sentence. Just because you need a dictionary to understand my posts doesn't mean I need one to write them.

Jun 7, 2002, 06:58 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	First Clawhammer benchmarks by Drew Cullen You know when a German tech site has got hold of a big story or review - it publishes an English-language version. Germany's TecChannel has got a biggie: the first benchmarks of AMD's upcoming 64-bit ClawHammer desktop CPU gained after running a prototype machine on the AMD Computex booth in Taiwan through its paces for an hour. There are more caveats than a lawyer's letter. The software used for testing was 32-bit; it's a prototype; the chip may have been locked at 800MHz, so a direct comparison should only be made with an 800MHz Athlon etcetera. etcetera. But the rig is stable, the ClawHammer performs up to 40 per cent faster than an Athlon running at the same clock rate. And the chip is cool - not even hand-hot in operation. Also, TecChannel reckons that AMD is being too cautious at locking ClawHammer at 800MHz. At Computex rumours were afloat that the clock rate will even be 1.6 GHz at the launching. Should this really come true and should Intel really cope with the aimed at 3 GHz, then AMD has to do much awareness training in regard of its model number -3400+ rumours say. The launching of AMD's first complete design in three years time seems to become a marketing problem much more than a technical problem - our first beats on the Hammer drum have been successful by all means. http://www.tecchannel.de/hardware/937/index.html

Jun 8, 2002, 02:52 AM	#2
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Jun 8, 2002, 06:50 PM	#6
Silentst2000 Can I be cool? Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 355 Rep Power: 0	Those benchmarks are fake as far as i am concerned. __________________ P4@2.4ghz Radeon 9700pro DDR 400 Nuff said

Jun 17, 2002, 11:52 PM	#17
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	wow! Through some amazing anomaly the testers managed to get scores all rounded to a nice multiple of ten. I wish I could find out their amazing testing techniques so that I could get my machine to get exactly 8100 3dmarks and exactly 2400 for memory bandwidth in Sisoft Sandra! God, how can even an AMD user believe these are "true, honest to god benchmark scores?" I'm sure if Intel released the same picture, except with prescott at 1500 points you would all relentlessly bash the results as "projected" and intel-biased. Poop.

Jun 18, 2002, 11:39 PM	#19
Silentst2000 Can I be cool? Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 355 Rep Power: 0	First of all. You didn't dispell shit. Second. AMD released those scores? Hmm... even if it was true...which its not...you would think they would favor their product JUST A HAIR!. __________________ P4@2.4ghz Radeon 9700pro DDR 400 Nuff said

Jun 8, 2002, 08:58 AM	#3
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Intel spends more on advertising than AMD makes in a given year.

Jun 8, 2002, 10:12 AM	Thread Starter #5
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	moved to flaming.

Jun 8, 2002, 08:50 PM	#8
Billy Guest Posts: n/a	true AMD fan? the only true thing you are is a tit. and im 99percent sure you are a P4 or celeron owner regardless of what you say.

Jun 10, 2002, 04:41 AM	#9
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	I'm a real fan, Billy. You just claim to support AMD because your illiterate friends told you, through their shit-stained teeth, that "they herd that ay-em-dee iz a bitter deal." You are the lowest form of PC user -- you uninformed purple-pissing bandwagon kiddie. You own the Flaming forum? Haha, whatever. That's why you can never open your mouth without getting burned to a crisp by every single DriverHeaven member, right? The only thing you are 'round here, Billy, is everyone's little whipping boy.

Jun 19, 2002, 12:16 AM	#20
Doomtrooper Driverheaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 206 Rep Power: 0	We'll revisit this thread in 6 months __________________ "It's time to kick A$$ and chew bubble gum....and I'm all out of gum." Duke Nukem November 1996

Jun 27, 2002, 08:11 AM	#23
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Jun 27, 2002, 08:29 PM	#24
Silentst2000 Can I be cool? Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 355 Rep Power: 0	It's the name... people search for "drivers" and they see driverheaven and think they can find all sorts of drivers for their computer. __________________ P4@2.4ghz Radeon 9700pro DDR 400 Nuff said