Constant people crying about Vista, please F*** off

Syndicate2083 · Jun 10, 2008, 05:17 PM

My HP dv9208 laptop with 1 gig of ram is able to run Vista Ultimate with no issues what so ever. No BSoDs. No Driver problems. It doesn't run as well as something with 2gigs, but I run Aero with no issues, I play games with no problems (comparable to the specs of my system, so something like GTA SA, WC3:FT etc, I can even play Sins of a Solar Empire with little issue). Does it get choppy? Sure after either several days of net surfing or 12 hours of straight game play.

Anyone who says that Vista runs like garbage on their laptop with minimum specs is doing something wrong, or their laptop vendor blows. End of story.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Jun 10, 2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndicate2083

My HP dv9208 laptop with 1 gig of ram is able to run Vista Ultimate with no issues what so ever. No BSoDs. No Driver problems. It doesn't run as well as something with 2gigs, but I run Aero with no issues, I play games with no problems (comparable to the specs of my system, so something like GTA SA, WC3:FT etc, I can even play Sins of a Solar Empire with little issue). Does it get choppy? Sure after either several days of net surfing or 12 hours of straight game play.

Anyone who says that Vista runs like garbage on their laptop with minimum specs is doing something wrong, or their laptop vendor blows. End of story.

awesome, good to hear!

**Mousey** · Jun 10, 2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndicate2083

My HP dv9208 laptop with 1 gig of ram is able to run Vista Ultimate with no issues what so ever. No BSoDs. No Driver problems. It doesn't run as well as something with 2gigs, but I run Aero with no issues, I play games with no problems (comparable to the specs of my system, so something like GTA SA, WC3:FT etc, I can even play Sins of a Solar Empire with little issue). Does it get choppy? Sure after either several days of net surfing or 12 hours of straight game play.

Anyone who says that Vista runs like garbage on their laptop with minimum specs is doing something wrong, or their laptop vendor blows. End of story.

Bring it to those anti vista fooz

Syndicate2083 · Jun 10, 2008, 09:59 PM

maybe ill make a small vid of it in action if anyone wants to refute the claim, haha.

**Mousey** · Jun 10, 2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndicate2083

maybe ill make a small vid of it in action if anyone wants to refute the claim, haha.

Sounds good, i might show my rig in action on camera proving how vista does in fact pwn

Syndicate2083 · Jun 10, 2008, 10:23 PM

Yeah its sad when people complain about it, and say how bad it runs, etc. and theres my lil laptop with 1 gig of ram chugging away with vista ultimate hehe.

Mofobishop · Aug 18, 2008, 07:54 PM

^^ Agree

**kris23** · Aug 18, 2008, 07:55 PM

mmm spam... its whats for lunch

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Aug 18, 2008, 11:26 PM

bitching has calmed down quite a bit, and this yr my university moving over to vista. thank god!

**kris23** · Aug 19, 2008, 12:46 AM

vista is awesome man

Judas · Aug 19, 2008, 04:59 PM

theres people still playing the UAC/Capability/Crashing card for the reason vista's horrible....

SeraphicSorcerer · Aug 20, 2008, 02:39 AM

I disable UAC, compatibility is fine. It only crashes if you overclock like a tard use crappy drivers, or run stupid software, I will say I don't like the gaming performance being not on par with Windows XP. (you lose a few FPS, which could help in games like Crysis.

Judas · Aug 20, 2008, 05:16 PM

some games you GAIN fps....

cozumel · Aug 20, 2008, 07:43 PM

Why the hell is UAC installed as default. Tha's the thing that most people get hung up on. It's the first thing I disable upon install and the most other folks do the same too.

XP was probably one of MS's finest hours. Vista took it up another level

OldBuzzard · Aug 21, 2008, 02:21 AM

UAC is for people like a good friend of mine. He can screw up a system in a heartbeat.

It will save the clueless from themselves. Yeah, it's a PITA for geeks/power users, but for the VAST MAJORITY of the users out there, it's a VERY good thing.

Judas · Aug 21, 2008, 05:26 PM

UAC has saved a number of people headaches...

usually the ones that get the popup adds that read " your infected with 291359 viruses... clean now" and click yes....

as i've instructed them that nothing on the internet should kick uac in... they've hit disallow/deny preventing that bastard add to infect the shit outa them.

cozumel · Aug 21, 2008, 06:35 PM

But I think it works in a very user-unfriendly way. Surely it doesn't need to the UAC dialogue to come up for every little thing the user does. There should have been an option to turn of the dialogue but still have UAC protection. (If that option exists then delete me...)

The dialogue slows down the productivity of the pc for the user due to its over-eagerness to tell you whats giong on. Is the average consumer so dumb they need that level of intrusive protection?

Syndicate2083 · Aug 21, 2008, 07:41 PM

They most certainly are. I can assure you of that working in tech support in the computer/backup industry.

Judas · Aug 21, 2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cozumel

But I think it works in a very user-unfriendly way. Surely it doesn't need to the UAC dialogue to come up for every little thing the user does. There should have been an option to turn of the dialogue but still have UAC protection. (If that option exists then delete me...)

The dialogue slows down the productivity of the pc for the user due to its over-eagerness to tell you whats giong on. Is the average consumer so dumb they need that level of intrusive protection?

Cozumel,

Anyone that has the multiple UAC prompts per week (unless running a legacy program in admin mode for capability reasons).... either means the system is already compremised, or a specific program is poorly coded, requesting far to many rights.... that isn't UAC's fault for detecting something it shouldn't be doing in the first place...

OR you have java installed... FUCK i hate java, what a pile of shit. Anyone running java on vista, no wonder they would go insane with the uac prompts... i don't install java ever, but i give it a whirl every once inawhile just t osee if they'ved fixed the fucking program, and just recently tried it on a vista machine only get bombparded by uac prompts every time i went to a new website or did something completely ordinary....

I've yet to find a good reason to have java installed.... theres simply nothing really out there critical enough to warrant the install of sun java on any machine i've built thus far, nor have i had anyone come in asking for java.... except one person, and that was a bank that was using java for thier business accounts, which, btw, is a shitty bank to begin with.

BlueMak · Aug 21, 2008, 08:52 PM

I remember reading every couple of months some game review where either the game itself or its copy protection, combined with the UAC make the game/system crash. All of the times solved by disabling the UAC. So while the UAC might not be the real reason, but bad programing (game/copy protection), the end result is the same.

I haven't decided if I am going to have it disabled or not for my new to arrive notebook, but chances are I will disable it, just in case.

Syndicate2083 · Aug 21, 2008, 09:06 PM

I think its great for people who really don't work with computers and really know what is and is not ok to do. If your a 'power user' and are fully aware of what it is your doing, go for it, otherwise i think its a good idea.

-Syn

Judas · Aug 21, 2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueMak

I remember reading every couple of months some game review where either the game itself or its copy protection, combined with the UAC make the game/system crash. All of the times solved by disabling the UAC. So while the UAC might not be the real reason, but bad programing (game/copy protection), the end result is the same.

I haven't decided if I am going to have it disabled or not for my new to arrive notebook, but chances are I will disable it, just in case.

You'll likely disable it..

considering that every notebook computer i've handled with vista has insane uac popsup..... acer has them less.. but even all the acers i get in... i have to manually go through and basically wipe out the programs and garbage and reset it up..... long process.. but the end result is a healthy, non-UAC-insane, working computer.

cozumel · Aug 21, 2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndicate2083

They most certainly are. I can assure you of that working in tech support in the computer/backup industry.

Is that a standard APC Support line then, that the average consumer is dumb?

But there is something wrong if joe public can't be taught how to use their pc properly. It's not rocket science keeping things ship-shape and your house in order.

BlueMak · Aug 21, 2008, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas

You'll likely disable it..

considering that every notebook computer i've handled with vista has insane uac popsup..... acer has them less.. but even all the acers i get in... i have to manually go through and basically wipe out the programs and garbage and reset it up..... long process.. but the end result is a healthy, non-UAC-insane, working computer.

Luckily the Clevo notebooks don't usualy come with garbage like that, though I guess I will do a clean installation anyway.

I used Vista on my desktop for a few weeks (trial) and I didn't experience many alerts. Of course I don't install new applications every day either. All I know is that for my mother who will get a new system soon, I will leave it on.

Knight_Breed · Aug 22, 2008, 04:21 AM

On UAC

Damn Judas its a PITA I am running Vista Ultimate X64 and 32 bit on 2 machines Vista rocks .... with the exception of UAC

Sandok · Aug 22, 2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndicate2083

My HP dv9208 laptop with 1 gig of ram is able to run Vista Ultimate with no issues what so ever. No BSoDs. No Driver problems. It doesn't run as well as something with 2gigs, but I run Aero with no issues, I play games with no problems (comparable to the specs of my system, so something like GTA SA, WC3:FT etc, I can even play Sins of a Solar Empire with little issue). Does it get choppy? Sure after either several days of net surfing or 12 hours of straight game play.

Anyone who says that Vista runs like garbage on their laptop with minimum specs is doing something wrong, or their laptop vendor blows. End of story.

Bullshit. With 1 gig of ram, running Vista is a chore... It's slow to boot, slow to run and all in all, a great pain in the ass, especially when you move from the silky smoothness that is XP.

I bought 2 gigs of ram and things have moved from "unusable" to "enjoyable". However, unless your expectations are WAY lower than mine, nobody will say that Vista with 1GB of ram is fun

Judas · Aug 22, 2008, 08:57 PM

vista can and does run very well on 1gb of ram... sluggish on 512... and you can force load it on 256mb... but... what a waist

either way, when doing 1gb/512, you aren't going to do anything beyond internet and word documents... even doing things with digital images via camera is going to be noticeable slower..

obviously i don't recommend anything lower then 2gb .... it's just better period.

cozumel · Aug 22, 2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandok

Bullshit. With 1 gig of ram, running Vista is a chore... It's slow to boot, slow to run and all in all, a great pain in the ass, especially when you move from the silky smoothness that is XP.

I bought 2 gigs of ram and things have moved from "unusable" to "enjoyable". However, unless your expectations are WAY lower than mine, nobody will say that Vista with 1GB of ram is fun

Translation - I'm an XP Fanboi

Judas · Aug 22, 2008, 10:20 PM

Epic Quote....

Knight_Breed · Aug 23, 2008, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cozumel

Translation - I'm an XP Fanboi

I am as well and was also a die hard 98SE2 fanboi as well when XP first came out. All new OS's have teething pains and if I remember correctly XP did as well

The SP1 for Vista fixed a lot of issues people have been experiencing and for me running 4G of OCZ Reaper PC8500 ram would I rather run Vista X64 or XP64

XP64 has been plagued with driver and support issues since it was first introduced. So basically if you want to use more than 2.5G of ram effectively go for Vista 64bit

Jun 10, 2008, 05:17 PM	#61
Syndicate2083 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Framingham, MA Posts: 228 Rep Power: 23 System Specs	My HP dv9208 laptop with 1 gig of ram is able to run Vista Ultimate with no issues what so ever. No BSoDs. No Driver problems. It doesn't run as well as something with 2gigs, but I run Aero with no issues, I play games with no problems (comparable to the specs of my system, so something like GTA SA, WC3:FT etc, I can even play Sins of a Solar Empire with little issue). Does it get choppy? Sure after either several days of net surfing or 12 hours of straight game play. Anyone who says that Vista runs like garbage on their laptop with minimum specs is doing something wrong, or their laptop vendor blows. End of story. __________________ -Crash the silence for the sake of memory. Intrinsic Realities, Veteran-USN.

Jun 10, 2008, 09:59 PM	#64
Syndicate2083 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Framingham, MA Posts: 228 Rep Power: 23 System Specs	maybe ill make a small vid of it in action if anyone wants to refute the claim, haha. __________________ -Crash the silence for the sake of memory. Intrinsic Realities, Veteran-USN.

Jun 10, 2008, 10:23 PM	#66
Syndicate2083 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Framingham, MA Posts: 228 Rep Power: 23 System Specs	Yeah its sad when people complain about it, and say how bad it runs, etc. and theres my lil laptop with 1 gig of ram chugging away with vista ultimate hehe. __________________ -Crash the silence for the sake of memory. Intrinsic Realities, Veteran-USN.

Aug 18, 2008, 07:55 PM	#68
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BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,706 Rep Power: 105 System Specs	bitching has calmed down quite a bit, and this yr my university moving over to vista. thank god! __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

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Mofobishop DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	^^ Agree

Aug 19, 2008, 12:46 AM	#70
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	vista is awesome man __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Aug 20, 2008, 02:39 AM	#72
SeraphicSorcerer HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 2,295 Rep Power: 154 System Specs	I disable UAC, compatibility is fine. It only crashes if you overclock like a tard use crappy drivers, or run stupid software, I will say I don't like the gaming performance being not on par with Windows XP. (you lose a few FPS, which could help in games like Crysis. __________________

Aug 20, 2008, 07:43 PM	#74
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	Why the hell is UAC installed as default. Tha's the thing that most people get hung up on. It's the first thing I disable upon install and the most other folks do the same too. XP was probably one of MS's finest hours. Vista took it up another level __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks

Aug 21, 2008, 02:21 AM	#75
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,781 Rep Power: 141 System Specs	UAC is for people like a good friend of mine. He can screw up a system in a heartbeat. It will save the clueless from themselves. Yeah, it's a PITA for geeks/power users, but for the VAST MAJORITY of the users out there, it's a VERY good thing. __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

Aug 21, 2008, 06:35 PM	#77
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	But I think it works in a very user-unfriendly way. Surely it doesn't need to the UAC dialogue to come up for every little thing the user does. There should have been an option to turn of the dialogue but still have UAC protection. (If that option exists then delete me...) The dialogue slows down the productivity of the pc for the user due to its over-eagerness to tell you whats giong on. Is the average consumer so dumb they need that level of intrusive protection? __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks

Aug 21, 2008, 07:41 PM	#78
Syndicate2083 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Framingham, MA Posts: 228 Rep Power: 23 System Specs	They most certainly are. I can assure you of that working in tech support in the computer/backup industry. __________________ -Crash the silence for the sake of memory. Intrinsic Realities, Veteran-USN.

Aug 21, 2008, 08:52 PM	#80
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,248 Rep Power: 328 System Specs	I remember reading every couple of months some game review where either the game itself or its copy protection, combined with the UAC make the game/system crash. All of the times solved by disabling the UAC. So while the UAC might not be the real reason, but bad programing (game/copy protection), the end result is the same. I haven't decided if I am going to have it disabled or not for my new to arrive notebook, but chances are I will disable it, just in case. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Aug 21, 2008, 09:06 PM	#81
Syndicate2083 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Framingham, MA Posts: 228 Rep Power: 23 System Specs	I think its great for people who really don't work with computers and really know what is and is not ok to do. If your a 'power user' and are fully aware of what it is your doing, go for it, otherwise i think its a good idea. -Syn __________________ -Crash the silence for the sake of memory. Intrinsic Realities, Veteran-USN.

Aug 22, 2008, 04:21 AM	#85
Knight_Breed DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Canader EH !! Posts: 281 Rep Power: 27 System Specs	On UAC Damn Judas its a PITA I am running Vista Ultimate X64 and 32 bit on 2 machines Vista rocks .... with the exception of UAC