why windows xp is such a fucking pile of SHIT.

Ryoko · Jun 24, 2002, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sinjin
screw that. it's easier and quicker to just toss in another hdd to copy the files to and fro.

that would overload my 250w power supply. (well, at least the only other HDD's i have available are 10000rpm scsi's.)

winxp is on a 10gb 5400rpm, i'm trying to get it to a 7200rpm X2 raid array... i'd have to throw in a scsi and install win98 just to get a copy of all files (including system)...

and that still won't get winxp to let my capture driver work...

sinjin · Jun 24, 2002, 07:42 PM

before you install xp on the array...use the slow-arsed hdd with xp installed to stripe your array @ 16k using adm tools>computer management>disk management ...then install xp over it. you should notice a major improvement benching with atto or sisoft sandra.

then disable all your cd/cdr/dvdroms, fans, and vibrators from your power supply and copy/paste your porn/mp3/whatever over to your array.

Ryoko · Jun 24, 2002, 07:46 PM

argh!

UberLord · Jun 24, 2002, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ryoko
that would overload my 250w power supply.

Dude - thats a bit underpowered for running RAID stuff. Might explain your BSOD probs...

sinjin · Jun 24, 2002, 07:58 PM

indeed

Jeff · Jun 24, 2002, 07:58 PM

You probably need a more capable power supply.

Ryoko · Jun 24, 2002, 08:17 PM

maybe i'm having a hard time explaining myself.

specs:

asus a7v133, 1009 bios (kt133a)
amd athlon tbird 1.0ghz at 1.13
768mb pc133 ram
10gb quantum fireball ata66 5400rpm
2x30gb maxtor ata100 7200rpm raid 0 (promise pdc20265r)
2x30xdvd
12x10x32xcdrw
asus v8200 deluxe geforce3 @ 220/520 (nv20, a5)
sound blaster live value
56k lucent win modem
10/100 accton 1207d
sigma designs realmagic hollywood plus (em8300)
250w power man psu

previous working setup:
win98se on primary (active) raid partition (c

backup on primary (non-active) 10gb standalone partition (d

video files on secondary raid partition (e

current working setup:
winxp on primary (active) 10gb standalone partition (c

nothing on primary (active) raid partition (f

backup and video files on secondary raid partition (g

this is the setup i want:
winxp on primary (active) raid partition (c

backup on primary (non-active) 10gb standalone partition (d

video files on secondary raid partition (any drive letter, i don't care)

i can't install winxp to the primary (active) raid partition, due to god knows what reason.
i can't make an exact copy of the primary (active) 10gb standalone drive to the primary (active) raid partition due to winxp not letting me copy files in use, due to xcopy not copying system/hidden/long files...
i can't install winxp to the raid array while running winxp on the 10gb standalone.

the psu is enough for what i'm running. i think i've also had one of the 10000 rpm scsi drives running with all the previously mentioned hardware just fine, but it's too much of a hassle setting everything up and installing all the needed drivers for win98 just to copy winxp over, and i'm not even guaranteed that that will work.

also updating capture drivers. winxp won't boot with any video driver other than the default. that right there is enough to make me not even care about winxp any more. good thing i didn't waste my money on buying it.

sinjin · Jun 24, 2002, 08:38 PM

1) stripe your array first via adm tools>comp management>disk management>format>whatever stripe size you desire (i like 16k personally) ...with everything as it is using your current xp setup on the standalone hdd. ***

2) shutdown

3) remove the standalone hdd...manually from mobo and in bios

4) boot to xp installation cd

5) make sure you have the promise fasttrac drivers on a floppy disk handy and press F6 when it asks if you need to install any disk management devices right at the beginning

6) install xp on the array

7) install 4n1s, george breese's latency patch, dx8.1, vid drivers, and win patches and updates

8) shutdown and reattach the standalone hdd...cut/paste all your porn over to the array.

***use fdisk or partition magic pro to partition your array prior to this step

~~David~~ · Jun 24, 2002, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ryoko
that would overload my 250w power supply. (well, at least the only other HDD's i have available are 10000rpm scsi's.)

winxp is on a 10gb 5400rpm, i'm trying to get it to a 7200rpm X2 raid array... i'd have to throw in a scsi and install win98 just to get a copy of all files (including system)...

and that still won't get winxp to let my capture driver work...

Just an idea have ya tryed a bigger psu? 250Watt just really isnt enough anymore

Ryoko · Jun 24, 2002, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sinjin
1) stripe your array first via adm tools>comp management>disk management>format>whatever stripe size you desire (i like 16k personally) ...with everything as it is using your current xp setup on the standalone hdd. ***

2) shutdown

3) remove the standalone hdd...manually from mobo and in bios

4) boot to xp installation cd

5) make sure you have the promise fasttrac drivers on a floppy disk handy and press F6 when it asks if you need to install any disk management devices right at the beginning

6) install xp on the array

at step 6, it will bluescreen before the "select drive" dialogue will show.

Quote:

7) install 4n1s, george breese's latency patch, dx8.1, vid drivers, and win patches and updates

8) shutdown and reattach the standalone hdd...cut/paste all your porn over to the array.

***use fdisk or partition magic pro to partition your array prior to this step

even if the install to the raid array worked, winxp would freeze on bootup immediately after installing video drivers.

Ryoko · Jun 24, 2002, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by David
Just an idea have ya tryed a bigger psu? 250Watt just really isnt enough anymore

i've tried my brother's 650w. is that big enough?

edperks · Jun 24, 2002, 09:37 PM

I agree with Ryoko 250 watt PSU just wont cut the mustard anymore!

Ryoko · Jun 24, 2002, 09:39 PM

jesus christ. close this thread.

Zardon · Jun 24, 2002, 09:46 PM

ok ive put the flames out in this thread. getting boring anyway. oh yeah, and XP rocks

Jun 24, 2002, 07:42 PM	#32
sinjin the last samurai Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,086 Rep Power: 0	before you install xp on the array...use the slow-arsed hdd with xp installed to stripe your array @ 16k using adm tools>computer management>disk management ...then install xp over it. you should notice a major improvement benching with atto or sisoft sandra. then disable all your cd/cdr/dvdroms, fans, and vibrators from your power supply and copy/paste your porn/mp3/whatever over to your array. __________________

Jun 24, 2002, 07:58 PM	#35
sinjin the last samurai Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,086 Rep Power: 0	indeed __________________

Jun 24, 2002, 07:58 PM	#36
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	You probably need a more capable power supply. __________________

Jun 24, 2002, 08:38 PM	#38
sinjin the last samurai Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,086 Rep Power: 0	1) stripe your array first via adm tools>comp management>disk management>format>whatever stripe size you desire (i like 16k personally) ...with everything as it is using your current xp setup on the standalone hdd. * 2) shutdown 3) remove the standalone hdd...manually from mobo and in bios 4) boot to xp installation cd 5) make sure you have the promise fasttrac drivers on a floppy disk handy and press F6 when it asks if you need to install any disk management devices right at the beginning 6) install xp on the array 7) install 4n1s, george breese's latency patch, dx8.1, vid drivers, and win patches and updates 8) shutdown and reattach the standalone hdd...cut/paste all your porn over to the array. *use fdisk or partition magic pro to partition your array prior to this step __________________

Jun 24, 2002, 07:46 PM	Thread Starter #33
Ryoko American Soldier Join Date: May 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,725 Rep Power: 0	argh!

Jun 24, 2002, 08:17 PM	Thread Starter #37
Ryoko American Soldier Join Date: May 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,725 Rep Power: 0	maybe i'm having a hard time explaining myself. specs: asus a7v133, 1009 bios (kt133a) amd athlon tbird 1.0ghz at 1.13 768mb pc133 ram 10gb quantum fireball ata66 5400rpm 2x30gb maxtor ata100 7200rpm raid 0 (promise pdc20265r) 2x30xdvd 12x10x32xcdrw asus v8200 deluxe geforce3 @ 220/520 (nv20, a5) sound blaster live value 56k lucent win modem 10/100 accton 1207d sigma designs realmagic hollywood plus (em8300) 250w power man psu previous working setup: win98se on primary (active) raid partition (c backup on primary (non-active) 10gb standalone partition (d video files on secondary raid partition (e current working setup: winxp on primary (active) 10gb standalone partition (c nothing on primary (active) raid partition (f backup and video files on secondary raid partition (g this is the setup i want: winxp on primary (active) raid partition (c backup on primary (non-active) 10gb standalone partition (d video files on secondary raid partition (any drive letter, i don't care) i can't install winxp to the primary (active) raid partition, due to god knows what reason. i can't make an exact copy of the primary (active) 10gb standalone drive to the primary (active) raid partition due to winxp not letting me copy files in use, due to xcopy not copying system/hidden/long files... i can't install winxp to the raid array while running winxp on the 10gb standalone. the psu is enough for what i'm running. i think i've also had one of the 10000 rpm scsi drives running with all the previously mentioned hardware just fine, but it's too much of a hassle setting everything up and installing all the needed drivers for win98 just to copy winxp over, and i'm not even guaranteed that that will work. also updating capture drivers. winxp won't boot with any video driver other than the default. that right there is enough to make me not even care about winxp any more. good thing i didn't waste my money on buying it.

Jun 24, 2002, 09:37 PM	#42
edperks HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 780 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I agree with Ryoko 250 watt PSU just wont cut the mustard anymore!

Jun 24, 2002, 09:39 PM	Thread Starter #43
Ryoko American Soldier Join Date: May 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,725 Rep Power: 0	jesus christ. close this thread.

Jun 24, 2002, 09:46 PM	#44
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	ok ive put the flames out in this thread. getting boring anyway. oh yeah, and XP rocks