just some interesting reading about Tbreds

reno · Jun 28, 2002, 12:57 AM

http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzIwLDI=

Ouch...almost 170 degrees on a .13 micron process...with a 7000 RPM fan?

Yeti · Jun 28, 2002, 01:51 AM

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Our overclocking was all done on the EPoX 8K3A+ at 1.85 Vcore using an Alpha PAL 8045 cooler. This was the same setup that we used in the Thermalright SLK-800 review. Realizing that not everyone is going to have such a high dollar cooling setup, we started bringing down the CFMs in order to bring the temperature up. We could run our 1.53GHz part stable at 155F at 1.83GHz without issue.

I love [H]ard, but you are taking that point out of context... i think you should also point to this... since its what (most) of us use... <least me...>

http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzIwLDE=

JavaFox · Jun 28, 2002, 02:29 AM

There really is no point in arguing this, because the nay-sayers are, for once, correct. The Tbred is a failure as far as thermals are concerned. It really is a case of AMD being its own worst enemy. They've become so good at making their die so small that, while the chip produces marginally less heat, that heat is much more difficult to dissapate.

The solution? Use a HSF combo that has been approved for use on a TBred (the AMD stock cooler, perhaps?). As time goes on, we will see more efficient HSF designs that will allow you to better cool TBreds.

Eat, drink, and be merry.

That is all.

Silentst2000 · Jun 28, 2002, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by JavaFox
There really is no point in arguing this, because the nay-sayers are, for once, correct. The Tbred is a failure as far as thermals are concerned. It really is a case of AMD being its own worst enemy. They've become so good at making their die so small that, while the chip produces marginally less heat, that heat is much more difficult to dissapate.

The solution? Use a HSF combo that has been approved for use on a TBred (the AMD stock cooler, perhaps?). As time goes on, we will see more efficient HSF designs that will allow you to better cool TBreds.

Eat, drink, and be merry.

That is all.

Lmfao.

Retail cooler? LOL

JavaFox · Jul 1, 2002, 05:50 AM

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Originally posted by Silentst2000
Lmfao.

Retail cooler? LOL

Use your head. It has to be adequate or else they'll have a bunch of T-Breds to RMA.

UberLord · Jul 1, 2002, 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by JavaFox
Use your head.

In the flame warzone? C'mon really - "Dubya" has got more chance of making an international a$$ of himself. Whups - he already has!

JavaFox · Jul 1, 2002, 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by UberLord
In the flame warzone? C'mon really - "Dubya" has got more chance of making an international a$$ of himself. Whups - he already has!

That was the poorest attempt at a jab on the president I have ever seen. :P

UberLord · Jul 1, 2002, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by JavaFox
That was the poorest attempt at a jab on the president I have ever seen. :P

I don't need to jab the president - he's doing a good enough job by himself

Malus · Jul 1, 2002, 06:38 PM

I love my Bush.

Silentst2000 · Jul 2, 2002, 01:20 AM

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Originally posted by JavaFox
Use your head. It has to be adequate or else they'll have a bunch of T-Breds to RMA.

No shit.

but the notion that it could be better than the high end coolers now is ludicris(sp)
They are also ment to keep the chip a level w/o it being burned up...not at its lowest temp possible. And be quite cost effective.

aka cheap.

JavaFox · Jul 2, 2002, 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by Malus
I love my Bush.

Word. He is the John Wayne of the 21st Century.

Mize · Jul 2, 2002, 02:14 AM

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Originally posted by reno
http://hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzIwLDI=

Ouch...almost 170 degrees on a .13 micron process...with a 7000 RPM fan?

170 via back-side thermistor or on-chip diode?
The latter is quite reasonable I would think.

Mize
(Oh, forgot to flame -- uh, 3dfx rulez! nvIDIOTs suck!)

Mize · Jul 2, 2002, 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by Malus
I love my Bush.

I love your girlfriend's.

JavaFox · Jul 2, 2002, 02:23 AM

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Originally posted by Mize
I love your girlfriend's.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurned

Jun 28, 2002, 12:57 AM	#1
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Jun 28, 2002, 02:29 AM	#3
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	There really is no point in arguing this, because the nay-sayers are, for once, correct. The Tbred is a failure as far as thermals are concerned. It really is a case of AMD being its own worst enemy. They've become so good at making their die so small that, while the chip produces marginally less heat, that heat is much more difficult to dissapate. The solution? Use a HSF combo that has been approved for use on a TBred (the AMD stock cooler, perhaps?). As time goes on, we will see more efficient HSF designs that will allow you to better cool TBreds. Eat, drink, and be merry. That is all.