DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!!

digitalwanderer · Jul 5, 2002, 08:00 AM

[SIZE=xx-large]DAMN IT!!![/SIZE]

I'm a freaking idiot, a moron, a cocky mofo who's head is just a little bit too big for his own good, and am right now just generally not to happy with a stupid-assed boneheaded thing I've found I just did.

See, it's been a bit of a bad week IRL for me. Nothing major, just a lot of little aggravations with the kids and the daughter has been staying up too late and the son has been getting up too early and since I'm redoing the bedroom & re-redoing the waterbed I've been sleeping with the wife on a mattress in the living room that just ain't that conducive to freaking privacy and forces me to get up too damned early in the morning! I've been living on 3-4 hours sleep for the last week and a half and my body is starting to tell me that I'm getting to be a little too old to keep doing that. I got a little bonkers out of my head aggravated a couple of days back and decided to format Bubble's HD just to give myself something to do. I didn't like how the install turned out, (I never ghost or seem to do it the same way twice, what fun would that be?), so I reformatted again last night at about 9pm on the tail-end of a 21 hour day with 3 hours sleep the night before. I'm not too sure of exactly how/what I did, but I got it all finished and up-to-speed by about 2 when my daughter finally went down for real and so did I. Happy-happy, joy-joy; right? So what's the problem?

I woke up this morning surprised to see Bubbles all ready to go...I couldn't remember finishing her up last night. (I was quite a bit more than a little blurry!) So I decide to run her thru a few benchies to see how I did....

3dm2k1se: 5741

Hrrrm? I thought I was barely getting 5720, and that was after heavey tweaking....so's I run GTA3. (Without a doubt my latest fave!) It's getting 50-60 fps instead of 40-50 fps and I have A3D going instead of Miles 2D (I like A3D better, but could have sworn it was more of a performance hit...) Likewise all done the list with all games/benchies...everything is running just a little bit better/faster/smoother than I'm used to.

("So what the f*ck is wrong with that dude? Sounds like it's all good, what's your problem?")

I don't know what I did differently. No clue. All the same drivers as usual, all the same tweaks, but the b-tch is running a tiny bit faster. (Hey, before you flame and say "what's a tiny bit worth" please remember that I'm a tweak-freak and sometimes try things just to get a fraction of a percent of speed/performance gain. I'm not talking about a fraction of a percent here, it's a difference I can notice without numbers.) I know I did something different and it made it work better, but I know not what.

Any way to back-track an install on a 98se system? (I didn't think there was....)

UberLord · Jul 6, 2002, 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by digitalwanderer
I know I did something different and it made it work better, but I know not what.

I really hate that when it happens to me

~~David~~ · Jul 6, 2002, 02:14 AM

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I'm a freaking idiot, a moron, a ****y mofo who's head is just a little bit too big for his own good, and am right now just generally not to happy with a stupid-assed boneheaded thing I've found I just did.

Would you get mad if i agreed?

J/K heh I hate when I forget what I did

DallasStar · Jul 6, 2002, 09:47 AM

The 9x series always seem faster after a reinstall.

Zardon · Jul 6, 2002, 10:00 AM

thats cause 9x its crap (nothing you are doing wrong digi, well apart from running the goddman thing in 2002) ....... which I keep telling everyone. even the ugly dude with the suit called gates said it was, lol, and he has produced some shit in his life which he calls state of the art. that give you an indication of just how much it sucks?

9x? id rather run Palm OS on my XP athlon

Yeti · Jul 6, 2002, 12:22 PM

WOAH... put down the mouse and step away from the computer.... PALM OS BAD????? lol, well not in my opinion.

As for 98 it is a very good system. I have been running comps with it for 4 years now (?). When properly managed it can be a very good os. Plus it has the advanatage of having a very small harddrive footprint while maintaining fps that is on par with XP.

Yeah i admit i switched to XP (for the most part)... but thats just cuz i have an excess of hardware...

WarGun · Jul 6, 2002, 02:29 PM

Yep i run win98 and a Max 20gig hard drive... its always a tad bit faster after a fresh install. lol.. the more i add to my H/D the slower it gets

.. Also DX8.1 slowed me down.

Shaith · Jul 6, 2002, 02:54 PM

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As for 98 it is a very good system. I have been running comps with it for 4 years now (?). When properly managed it can be a very good os.

whoah, put the crack pipe DOWN, chief!

When MS went from Win95 to Win98, the best that could be said was "It sucked less". WinME doesn't count as an opsys. Win2000 wasn't really a gaming platform. WinXP makes the others look like sloths on downers.

As for why the PC runs faster, Dig - you probably haven't installed all the sundry crap like AV scanners and what-not.

Chaos · Jul 6, 2002, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by shaith
whoah, put the crack pipe DOWN, chief!

When MS went from Win95 to Win98, the best that could be said was "It sucked less". WinME doesn't count as an opsys. Win2000 wasn't really a gaming platform. WinXP makes the others look like sloths on downers.

As for why the PC runs faster, Dig - you probably haven't installed all the sundry crap like AV scanners and what-not.

I hear Windows 2000 is not a gaming OS all the time. I use it daily for FPS like Q3A, UT, and even the odd quick peek at UT2003 when I'm feeling imoral

digitalwanderer · Jul 6, 2002, 05:21 PM

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When MS went from Win95 to Win98, the best that could be said was "It sucked less".

Yup, just like XP when it came out. Win98 ain't the best M$ OS, a well tweaked 98se install is an entirely different matter.

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WinXP makes the others look like sloths on downers.

Yeah, it sort of runs like a greased-weasal on acid having a VERY bad trip and some major hallucinations going down. (The Dig did NOT have a pleasant XP experience!)

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As for why the PC runs faster, Dig - you probably haven't installed all the sundry crap like AV scanners and what-not.

Good guess, but wrong. Everything was all hooked up, installed, trimmed, and tweaked.

There is one thing though, and I guess it ain't all that minor...

I switched soundcards. Totally spaced it as it was a bit of a spontaneous inspiration, but I swapped the SB-live 5.1 out and put a Fortissimo II in. This box has got the 4.1 system, and I wanted to see what the Forty sounded like on it. I also had a bit of a problem with the dongle on it and this one is a whole bunch easier to reach behind and jiggle the damned cord on than my other box, but I figured out that trimming off about 1/4" of the plastic off the body of the plug that went into the card allowed it to connect nice and solid and the problem is now gone. (YIPEEE!!!)

So I think the difference can be attributed to getting the Creative crap out of my gaming rig.

BTW-Oh yeah, I just remember what got me inspired to switch 'em: A3D! Need I say more?

~~ByteMe~~ · Jul 6, 2002, 08:14 PM

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[SIZE=xx-large]DAMN IT!!![/SIZE]

I'm a freaking idiot, a moron, a ****y mofo who's head is just a little bit too big for his own good, and am right now just generally not to happy with a stupid-assed boneheaded thing I've found I just did.

Any way to back-track an install on a 98se system? (I didn't think there was....)

Dude, you have problems. You had me fooled for awhile but now I see what a complete whiney retarded overused anal probe you are.

Too bad the closest you'll ever come to a brain storm is a light drizzle.

When you post, all of us suffer by losing a bit of our intelligence. A few unfortunites such as MP will be in your range in another 5-10 posts.

Please end our suffering and apply at the voluntary suicide center. This is the only chance you have of contributing to the world.

P.S. your right, your mom ain't half-bad.

Ryoko · Jul 9, 2002, 03:09 AM

LOL

welcome to the warzone, byteme

dig, i agree 100% that winxp is crap and win98se is god. i have had nothing but trouble trying to get winxp to do even the least complex tasks, like work with any asus product. win98se will do anything and everything 10 times faster than xp any day on my computer.

Judas · Jul 9, 2002, 05:53 AM

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LOL

welcome to the warzone, byteme

dig, i agree 100% that winxp is crap and win98se is god. i have had nothing but trouble trying to get winxp to do even the least complex tasks, like work with any asus product. win98se will do anything and everything 10 times faster than xp any day on my computer.

and it can crash and burn 10x the chances and quickly......

Ryoko · Jul 9, 2002, 06:01 AM

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and it can crash and burn 10x the chances and quickly......

actually, 98se has never crashed on me. i had it up and running for 6 months before trying xp. in the 4 days that i tried to get it to do what i wanted, i had to reinstall it more than 30 times. one install of 98se later, and i'm good to go.

Judas · Jul 9, 2002, 06:08 AM

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actually, 98se has never crashed on me. i had it up and running for 6 months before trying xp. in the 4 days that i tried to get it to do what i wanted, i had to reinstall it more than 30 times. one install of 98se later, and i'm good to go.

one install of windows ME for me and i'm also good to go...

Ryoko · Jul 9, 2002, 06:22 AM

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one install of windows ME for me and i'm also good to go...

we had to take winME off of 3 of our lab computers and replace it with 98 for stability. ME is a good os if you're not running too many programs, but 98se is imho the best all-around os microsoft has ever made.

Malus · Jul 9, 2002, 06:25 AM

I always crashed on 98. It especially sucked when I was getting BSOD's the next day and I hadn't even installed anything yet. I rarely crash on XP though and if it does, it usually just shuts down the offending program as opposed to locking up my computer.

UberLord · Jul 9, 2002, 06:29 AM

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we had to take winME off of 3 of our lab computers and replace it with 98 for stability. ME is a good os if you're not running too many programs, but 98se is imho the best all-around os microsoft has ever made.

Really?
Technically, the OS is the same as MS-DOS 6.xx

Then there's the GUI.......
Pre-emptive multitasking? Nope
Fully 32-bit? Nope
Crash resiliant? Nope
Secure? Hell no (applies to every M$ os to date)

Ryoko · Jul 9, 2002, 06:37 AM

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Really?

yep.

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Technically, the OS is the same as MS-DOS 6.xx

yeah, so i can run duke nukem 3d, death rally, destruction derby...

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Then there's the GUI.......

a gui that doesn't restrict you to user-friendly, non-specific settings (and tells me that drive c is a dangerous place to be !

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Pre-emptive multitasking? Nope

i run 1 program at a time, to ensure maximum speed, and because i don't like a jumbled taskbar

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Fully 32-bit? Nope

thank god, my 16 bit programs wouldn't work if it was!

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Crash resiliant? Nope

if it's used by someone with 3 or more brain cells, it doesn't even need to be.

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Secure? Hell no (applies to every M$ os to date)

linux is the closest to secure that everyday desktop os's get. with every security risk that microsoft gets caught putting into its operating system (you don't think they're putting those things in there so they can have full control of your computer? shame...), they patch it and put 3 more in. 98se is far from secure, but it at least avoids m$'s power hungry admin grasp.

UberLord · Jul 9, 2002, 06:43 AM

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yeah, so i can run duke nukem 3d, death rally, destruction derby...

You can run Duke Nukem with a SB DOS emulator that someones has made - can't remember link sorry.

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a gui that doesn't restrict you to user-friendly, non-specific settings (and tells me that drive c is a dangerous place to be ! )

Oh - did you know you can switch all that stuff off?

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i run 1 program at a time, to ensure maximum speed, and because i don't like a jumbled taskbar

Ya know, running things like a firewall when playing an on-line game is a really good idea. Win9x/ME just cannot do this all that well - unless you don't care about being h/\x0r3d

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thank god, my 16 bit programs wouldn't work if it was!

Actually about 90% of the 16-bit programs work under Win2K/XP Pro.

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if it's used by someone with 3 or more brain cells, it doesn't even need to be.

I'm suprised that you have at least 3 brain cells

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linux is the closest to secure that everyday desktop os's get. with every security risk that microsoft gets caught putting into its operating system (you don't think they're putting those things in there so they can have full control of your computer? shame...), they patch it and put 3 more in. 98se is far from secure, but it at least avoids m$'s power hungry admin grasp.

So run Linux and WINE then - or invest into Lindows...

Malus · Jul 9, 2002, 06:54 AM

I run Commander Keen under WinXP. Does that count as a 16-bit program? I think so.

Ryoko · Jul 9, 2002, 07:00 AM

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You can run Duke Nukem with a SB DOS emulator that someones has made - can't remember link sorry.

that's right, i can't go to dos itself and run the game, unless i boot from a disk.

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Oh - did you know you can switch all that stuff off?

yeah, but that was an example. things like network protocols and device resources are harder to get to. not to mention, xp puts everything on the same irq unless you disable acpi.

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Ya know, running things like a firewall when playing an on-line game is a really good idea. Win9x/ME just cannot do this all that well - unless you don't care about being h/\x0r3d

i'm not at all concerned about getting hacked. go ahead. hack me. i don't care.

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Actually about 90% of the 16-bit programs work under Win2K/XP Pro.

not if xp pro doesn't work in the first place.

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I'm suprised that you have at least 3 brain cells

you know, i'm not sure how many i have, but i could probably guess that most people would think that i don't have many if i can't get xp to work. well, talk to asus about their shitty drivers concerning that.

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So run Linux and WINE then - or invest into Lindows...

and then how would i run all my d3d games?

Ryoko · Jul 9, 2002, 07:04 AM

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I run Commander Keen under WinXP. Does that count as a 16-bit program? I think so.

very good. i am assuming that (a) the manufacturers of all your computer's components have working xp drivers, (b) you aren't trying to get xp to boot from a raid array, (c) your capture driver and xp are waving peace banners, (d) winxp will boot after you install any video driver newer or older than the one winxp has defaulted to.

UberLord · Jul 9, 2002, 07:04 AM

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that's right, i can't go to dos itself and run the game, unless i boot from a disk.

You don't need to use a boot disk - the emulator works within command prompt in XP....

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yeah, but that was an example. things like network protocols and device resources are harder to get to. not to mention, xp puts everything on the same irq unless you disable acpi.

I have no problem with this - everything working 100%

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i'm not at all concerned about getting hacked. go ahead. hack me. i don't care.

I care about people hacking me. Your call for your PC I guess

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and then how would i run all my d3d games?

Unreal (Win32 version) works under WINE - and that uses D3D.
Basically it maps D3D calls onto OpenGL.

Ryoko · Jul 9, 2002, 07:23 AM

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Originally posted by UberLord
You don't need to use a boot disk - the emulator works within command prompt in XP....

I have no problem with this - everything working 100%

I care about people hacking me. Your call for your PC I guess

Unreal (Win32 version) works under WINE - and that uses D3D.
Basically it maps D3D calls onto OpenGL.

i do need a boot disk, if i don't want windows running in the background.

i do have a problem with this. i have a sblive value.

what is a hacker going to do to me? all of my data is backed up and they can have anything they want from my computer. nothing on my computer has anything with my name, address, or any other personal info. it's all fake. hell, i've had a fake name, address, soc sec # and all kinds of other stuff for longer than i've had this computer.

linux is nowhere near as compatible as win98se for both programs and drivers. i have no reason to switch currently, but if this new "big brother"/processor companion thing gets pushed, i will have a reason.

UberLord · Jul 9, 2002, 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by Ryoko
i do need a boot disk, if i don't want windows running in the background.

You get windows running in the background with every DirectX game you play.
Whats your point?

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i do have a problem with this. i have a sblive value.

The SB DOS emulator works with this card AFAIK - but it's still a shitty card

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what is a hacker going to do to me? all of my data is backed up and they can have anything they want from my computer. nothing on my computer has anything with my name, address, or any other personal info. it's all fake. hell, i've had a fake name, address, soc sec # and all kinds of other stuff for longer than i've had this computer.

Steal your bandwidth or CPU time for starters.

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linux is nowhere near as compatible as win98se for both programs and drivers. i have no reason to switch currently, but if this new "big brother"/processor companion thing gets pushed, i will have a reason.

True enough - Linux isn't ready for everyone.
But for technically minded peeps such as myself its a wet dream.

I'd say it will be ready in about 2-3 years

Ryoko · Jul 9, 2002, 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by UberLord
You get windows running in the background with every DirectX game you play.
Whats your point?

The SB DOS emulator works with this card AFAIK - but it's still a shitty card

Steal your bandwidth or CPU time for starters.

True enough - Linux isn't ready for everyone.
But for technically minded peeps such as myself its a wet dream.

I'd say it will be ready in about 2-3 years

dn3d, death rally, and destruction derby are not d3d games, they are strictly dos games.

i'm not talking about the dos emulator for the sblive. it needs its own irq or it will not have clear sound (pops/cracks).

hey, let hackers steal my 56k. they won't be able to do much with it. and cpu time? i have a 2000+, which rarely runs games. i don't care as long as they don't do any hardware damage.

more evidence against xp being a good os.

Zardon · Jul 9, 2002, 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by Ryoko
more evidence against xp being a good os.

a nice firewall, some AV software, and a partidge in a pear tree

Ryoko · Jul 9, 2002, 09:44 AM

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a nice firewall, some AV software, and a partidge in a pear tree

more proggies = less speed, resources, stability.

virus? reformat.

hacker? disconnect. (if i care)

hacker sends virus/spyware? reformat.

Zardon · Jul 9, 2002, 10:26 AM

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more proggies = less speed, resources, stability.

1.5 gig of O/c DDR 333 ram, manually tweaked OS operating at max efficiency, XP processor at 1.95 ghz... 3dmark 10,590, PC CPU mark 5,550. stable as a rock in cement.

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virus? reformat.

6 hard drives, including 240 gig raid taking over 100 cds of backup. I dont think so

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hacker? disconnect. (if i care)

all ports locked, IP and port tracer, some illegal tools and additional server to bounce an attack back, sometimes even shutting down offender

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hacker sends virus/spyware? reformat.

virus blocked. then send him one back, a hybrid. no need to reformat

best form of defence is attack especially seeing as most offenders are script kiddies

Jul 5, 2002, 08:00 AM	#1
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! [SIZE=xx-large]DAMN IT!!![/SIZE] I'm a freaking idiot, a moron, a cocky mofo who's head is just a little bit too big for his own good, and am right now just generally not to happy with a stupid-assed boneheaded thing I've found I just did. See, it's been a bit of a bad week IRL for me. Nothing major, just a lot of little aggravations with the kids and the daughter has been staying up too late and the son has been getting up too early and since I'm redoing the bedroom & re-redoing the waterbed I've been sleeping with the wife on a mattress in the living room that just ain't that conducive to freaking privacy and forces me to get up too damned early in the morning! I've been living on 3-4 hours sleep for the last week and a half and my body is starting to tell me that I'm getting to be a little too old to keep doing that. I got a little bonkers out of my head aggravated a couple of days back and decided to format Bubble's HD just to give myself something to do. I didn't like how the install turned out, (I never ghost or seem to do it the same way twice, what fun would that be?), so I reformatted again last night at about 9pm on the tail-end of a 21 hour day with 3 hours sleep the night before. I'm not too sure of exactly how/what I did, but I got it all finished and up-to-speed by about 2 when my daughter finally went down for real and so did I. Happy-happy, joy-joy; right? So what's the problem? I woke up this morning surprised to see Bubbles all ready to go...I couldn't remember finishing her up last night. (I was quite a bit more than a little blurry!) So I decide to run her thru a few benchies to see how I did.... 3dm2k1se: 5741 Hrrrm? I thought I was barely getting 5720, and that was after heavey tweaking....so's I run GTA3. (Without a doubt my latest fave!) It's getting 50-60 fps instead of 40-50 fps and I have A3D going instead of Miles 2D (I like A3D better, but could have sworn it was more of a performance hit...) Likewise all done the list with all games/benchies...everything is running just a little bit better/faster/smoother than I'm used to. ("So what the fck is wrong with that dude? Sounds like it's all good, what's your problem?")* I don't know what I did differently. No clue. All the same drivers as usual, all the same tweaks, but the b-tch is running a tiny bit faster. (Hey, before you flame and say "what's a tiny bit worth" please remember that I'm a tweak-freak and sometimes try things just to get a fraction of a percent of speed/performance gain. I'm not talking about a fraction of a percent here, it's a difference I can notice without numbers.) I know I did something different and it made it work better, but I know not what. Any way to back-track an install on a 98se system? (I didn't think there was....) __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Jul 6, 2002, 09:47 AM	#4
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	The 9x series always seem faster after a reinstall. __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Jul 6, 2002, 12:22 PM	#6
Yeti DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 662 Rep Power: 0	WOAH... put down the mouse and step away from the computer.... PALM OS BAD????? lol, well not in my opinion. As for 98 it is a very good system. I have been running comps with it for 4 years now (?). When properly managed it can be a very good os. Plus it has the advanatage of having a very small harddrive footprint while maintaining fps that is on par with XP. Yeah i admit i switched to XP (for the most part)... but thats just cuz i have an excess of hardware... __________________ --Oh lord not again

Jul 9, 2002, 06:25 AM	#17
Malus BSD SMASH! Join Date: May 2002 Location: A rabbit hole. . . Posts: 1,170 Rep Power: 0	I always crashed on 98. It especially sucked when I was getting BSOD's the next day and I hadn't even installed anything yet. I rarely crash on XP though and if it does, it usually just shuts down the offending program as opposed to locking up my computer. __________________ quad (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel Q6600 - Asus P5E-VM HDMI - 2x2 GB Kingston PC6400 DDR2 Ram - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - 2xSeagate 1TB 7200RPM HD in RAID 1 via ZFS - Lite-On 20x DVD Multi Recorder - Coolermaster Centurion 5 router (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel E4500 - Intel D945GCNL - 2 GB PC6400 Mushkin Ram - Lite-On 48x24x48x16 - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - Silverstone SST-SG02-F wanderer (FreeBSD/i386 7-CURRENT): Lenovo Thinkpad T61p mini (OS X 10.5): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8Ghz, 4 GB Mushkin PC5400 Ram - Headroom MicroDAC Portable sound: Rockboxed iPod Video -> Westone UM2's Not-So-Portable Sound: Headroon MicroDAC -> Singlepower PPX3-SLAM -> Grado RS-1's or Beyerdynamic DT-880's Very-Not-Portable-Sound: Squeezebox v3 -> Denon AVR-1507 -> B&W 683's & Sunfire HRS-10

Jul 9, 2002, 06:54 AM	#21
Malus BSD SMASH! Join Date: May 2002 Location: A rabbit hole. . . Posts: 1,170 Rep Power: 0	I run Commander Keen under WinXP. Does that count as a 16-bit program? I think so. __________________ quad (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel Q6600 - Asus P5E-VM HDMI - 2x2 GB Kingston PC6400 DDR2 Ram - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - 2xSeagate 1TB 7200RPM HD in RAID 1 via ZFS - Lite-On 20x DVD Multi Recorder - Coolermaster Centurion 5 router (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel E4500 - Intel D945GCNL - 2 GB PC6400 Mushkin Ram - Lite-On 48x24x48x16 - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - Silverstone SST-SG02-F wanderer (FreeBSD/i386 7-CURRENT): Lenovo Thinkpad T61p mini (OS X 10.5): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8Ghz, 4 GB Mushkin PC5400 Ram - Headroom MicroDAC Portable sound: Rockboxed iPod Video -> Westone UM2's Not-So-Portable Sound: Headroon MicroDAC -> Singlepower PPX3-SLAM -> Grado RS-1's or Beyerdynamic DT-880's Very-Not-Portable-Sound: Squeezebox v3 -> Denon AVR-1507 -> B&W 683's & Sunfire HRS-10

Jul 6, 2002, 10:00 AM	#5
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	thats cause 9x its crap (nothing you are doing wrong digi, well apart from running the goddman thing in 2002) ....... which I keep telling everyone. even the ugly dude with the suit called gates said it was, lol, and he has produced some shit in his life which he calls state of the art. that give you an indication of just how much it sucks? 9x? id rather run Palm OS on my XP athlon

Jul 6, 2002, 02:29 PM	#7
WarGun DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 249 Rep Power: 0	Yep i run win98 and a Max 20gig hard drive... its always a tad bit faster after a fresh install. lol.. the more i add to my H/D the slower it gets .. Also DX8.1 slowed me down.

Jul 9, 2002, 03:09 AM	#12
Ryoko American Soldier Join Date: May 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,725 Rep Power: 0	LOL welcome to the warzone, byteme dig, i agree 100% that winxp is crap and win98se is god. i have had nothing but trouble trying to get winxp to do even the least complex tasks, like work with any asus product. win98se will do anything and everything 10 times faster than xp any day on my computer.