Optimummind

You really should read this story about this unfortunate man and his family and how badly Antec treated them.

After having read this, I'm not buying Antec again. I express with my wallet!!

http://forum.chillblast.com/forum/sh...ighlight=antec

blade5545

That must have hurt like hell I electruceted one of my fingers once it hurt like hell for three weeks, some of these companies are all about money and unfurtently since they have more money the law is on their side

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zerodamage

Please do not take this to seriously. I have my doubts about it being legit.

mbeeston

i'm not trusting antech... not that i cared in the firstplace mind you

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DallasStar

i found something fishy about that picture in the article: did he just coincidentally happen to take a picture of his hand before getting shocked? and if not, how did he get a non-burnt hand to take a picture of AFTER it had been burnt (notice that both hands are oriented the same way, so that rules out using the other hand)? i'm not so sure i'm willing to trust such a thing.

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zerodamage

I am not saying I distrust Anandtech. To the contrary, I trust anandtech over any other review site out there. I just do not believe this story for a minute.

Optimummind

This is why I get so frustrated with some of you in this forum. Before making such dumbass statements, why don't you read what he actually wrote in that article?

Too lazy? Then, let me copy and paste that portion of the article for your retarded brains:

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Want to see what an electrical burn looks like? The top one is a minor electrical burn, similar to what I had, the exception is I had burns on the back of my hand for the exit and the outer edge for the entrance from what the doctors can tell. The lower image is a more serious prolonged electrical burn; both of these are non-fatal at this point. After talking to various doctors yesterday and today I can safely say that it’s rare for a heart to stop like this, but breathing can stop very easily, Im asthmatic!!
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Notice the part that says: "The top one is a minor electrical burn, similar to what I had, the exception is I had burns on the back of my hand..."

Now, oh-so-retarded-children-of-mine, that statement means that because he did not have a picture of his own burnt hands but because he wanted to show an example of what a burn can do to a human being's hand skin, he uploaded that picture. Also, he points out that "the exception is I had burns o the back of my hand."

Now, turn your retarded eyes to those pictures you find in the Microsoft word document. Are those pictures of the back side of the hand?? No, right?? There you go, congratulations for finally putting all the pieces together!!


You win my "thanks-for-being-so-retarded-you-made-me-laugh-for-1-minute" award!!!

Crash Override

Holy Shit

Skull is right.

I just now realized where all of my report to mods were coming from

It was from me flaming the hell out of the jackass above me.

Listen Chupa Cabras, you can reserve the right to let people know they made a mistake but you dont need to flame them

The_Neon_Cowboy

ok .. a noral person first thought would ne lawsuit and foget a mesaly reaplacemnt part he could get millions $$$ if he sued

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tek

Thats FUCKING bullshit, he needs to take this to court immediately if he has any intelligence.
Id kill those fuckers I swear.

Excuse the language this has got me HEATED

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Crash Override

Actually I believe him because I was very nearly a victim of something similar to this

I had 2 Antec PSU's blow up on me in a row.

Both of them did electrical arcing and the whole bit. My hand was about a quarter of an inch from the arc.

I got damned lucky both times.

Ev!L-aLphA

maby he took a pic of left and and a pic of right hand to show the difference

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Optimummind

LOL

reno

I'm just wondering how, even if he is touching the case, the insulating sheath around the cord conducted electricity through his body...unless somehow he was touching the psu and the case....

I dunno, the only path energy would flow would either be

1) From cord to case
or
2) From psu to case.

Either way, if the PSU was shocking him (which obviously he thinks) he should be dead. 100mAmps can kill you with just 25 volts running through it, if 240 volts was running from the PSU (which outputs far higher amperage than 100mAmps) to the case through his body...his heart SHOULD have stopped.

It still makes no sense to me how he created a circuit though, he doesn't explain it very well.

I guess I'll wear rubber gloves when I plug in my Antec power supply then huh? IF this is truly the PSUs fault and not faulty house wiring.

Optimummind

You should email him about it. I think he'll be able to explain it clearly.

I'm thinking that maybe since he's a hardware reviewer, the power supply was sitting on top of some desk or tray. Maybe he used one hand to hold down the PSU and the other hand to plug in the power cord from the outlet. If the Antec PSU unit was defective as Antec themselves seems to have admitted, then perhaps the electricity coursed from the PSU casing to his hand.

As to why he survived, I guess he got really lucky. But then, I don't see why anyone should really be surprised that he survived a 5+ seconds 240V shock. There are many documented cases of people surviving from a lightning strike.

I also don't see why he would be lying. Let's suppose he is some greedy bastard who wants free money from a semi-large corporation like Antec. If he were really planning from the beginning to screw Antec over financially, he should've taken his shock accident as a golden opportunity and try to hire the best lawyer(s) he can find. Instead, he shipped the PSU unit back to Antec.

Also, if his scamming ideas came after he sent the faulty unit to Antec, why should he publicize about the whole thing in the first place? Letting the public know will not help him in a legal case such as this. Sure, he can moan and bitch about it and try to get the support from a few hundred sympathetic forum members, but a court judge won't care about any of that. Instead, the court would need solid evidence, whether they be legal correspondence or internal company emails.

And, if he was trying to get those internal emails or other forms of correspondence, it wouldn't be to his advantage to let the whole world know of his possible moves or motives.

Well, that was my opinion and I believe that Antec just screwed up somewhere. Screw-ups like these can happen to any company. Look at what Ford did. They killed hundreds of people just because they didn't want to recall vehicles to save some money. That's why I'm never going to buy a crappy American car like Ford. I'm sticking with Asian cards--Honda and Toyota.

Where Antec did wrong, I think, is by treating him so poorly and not offering some form of compensation. Afterall, the guy (hardware reviewer) lost some reputation and money when he couldn't replace the components that got fried.

All in all, I'm disappointed with Antec. At least it brings down the number of choices I have to make when I'm looking for a new PSU---Vantec, PC Power & Cooling, or Enermax.

Crash Override

Holy Crap Batman

You didnt flame him

Optimummind

LOL

Oh, come on now, I don't flame just because I feel like it or because my hormonal system crashed or something.

I flame for a reason.

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Congratulations! Correct me if I'm wrong, but we do have a 'Flame Warzone' where you can flame away to your hearts content!

BWX

The guy who got shocked is an idiot for sending the PSU back to Antec. That is evidence.. Even if he wasn't going to sue in the first place- he still should have held on to it. You never know what is going to happen and he obviously found out the hard way that he may have to sue to even get compensated for the hardware that blew up.

Why is he plugging into a 240v line anyway? Is that all they have over there or something? Isn't that a little dangerous to begin with? I don't know what his rights are over there, but if it were me I would have held on to the PSU for evidence, called the company, and if I didn't get immediate results I would get a lawyer and sue.

The reason Antec is dragging there feet is because they know they have nothing to worry about now, they have the evidence, and it could be in little pieces by now. I can't believe the guy sent the PSU back, not too bright.

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Judas

.....ok.... i haven't looked at it all the much....i'm not sure what the deal is... anyone wanna give a quick cap on what happened?

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BWX

http://forum.chillblast.com/forum/sh...ighlight=antec

All right here- guy got zapped

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jjmd

All i can say is dam......lucky

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reno

I dunno, I'm still very cynical about this whole thing. Unless he was touching a bare wire, there should be no way electricity could conduct through him. Especially if it's coming FROM a PSU that outputs integer rated amperage. If it did, he'd be dead, plain and simple. I have a feeling his power socket was the true problem, and somehow (I still can't conceive how) it shocked him through insulator.


Whatever, I guess it doesn't really matter to me, but I'm just impressed by the weird holes in this guy's story and how quick to believe him many are. Maybe.

Judas

.,.....did i see in there something about 240 volt? (also mentioned here)....... now why would he need that? i know of the switch at the back of the psu's.... but 115 is default..... 240 in any normal household is hard to find.... what's he trying to do, power an oven?

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Optimummind

What is so hard to believe? Many people have survived even a direct lightning strike. Tell me. If people can survive those, why can't a person survive this?

Also, if you're so curious and want to follow through, why don't you email him and ask him to give you the details. He probably has some kind of hospital record concerning his health state. Ask him to fax it to you or something.

Optimummind

What is so hard to believe? Many people have survived even a direct lightning strike. Tell me. If people can survive those, why can't a person survive this?

I would be very surprised if you told me that you were a Christian.

Also, if you're so curious and want to follow through, why don't you email him and ask him to give you the details. He probably has some kind of hospital record concerning his health state. Ask him to fax it to you or something.

Crash Override

why not just edit your first post to add in the extra line?

merry

Actually, if his power socket's earth connection is broken, there is a problem: the mains filter of the PSU contains (among other components) capacitors leading from both the mains wires to the earth wire; this latter is also connected to the chassis. If the earth connection is missing/broken, the chassis will be fed 1/2 of the mains voltage through the capacitors, so there would be 240/2=120V from chassis to earth.

So he only needed to touch the metal parts of the PC and earth at the same time (assuming no rubber gloves, shoes etc.). But 120V would hardly make such a skin burn as for the smell to remain in the room for more than three days.

Judas: Most European countries have 220 or 240 V as *nominal* mains voltage. Where I'm from, if you own anything working at 120, you need a transformer to operate it.

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Optimummind

I thought I clicked on editing but Driverheaven produced that ugly mess you see there. I don't know what happened.

Skull

you hit quote on your own post instead of edit - hence the duplicate and the bold.

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