The p4 northwood/rambus flexes show's its might...tbred is no where to be seen?

Silentst2000 · May 15, 2002, 12:39 AM

Well its nice to know that the p4 finaly w/o a doubt claimed the performance crown yet again. (of course its going to be pricy)

Malus · May 15, 2002, 02:39 AM

I could just buy two Athlon MP's for the price of one new Intel CPU and run a nice duel processor system.

EDIT CYBORG: Yes. (Just testing the forum BTW)

JavaFox · May 15, 2002, 05:16 AM

If you uncompromisingly need THE FASTEST SYSTEM, I am curious as to why you'd choose a P4 2.53GHz over dual Athlon MP 2000+s. Or, hell, why don't you go with 64 UltraSparcs? Sun's got a $30,000,000 dollar computer for sale, I'm sure IT'S faster than the vaunted P4.

What? What's that you say? Price IS a consideration?

Oh, well, then the newest P4 isn't really worth a damn, then is it?

reno · May 15, 2002, 06:09 PM

multiple processors of any type won't do jack for almost every game on the planet. so why buy dual MP's? So you can run your 30 hit a day website uberfast over your 28.8 connection with a redhat server? or, would you actually like playable framerates (50+fps) in morrowind?

Malus · May 15, 2002, 07:21 PM

Or you could have all your background processes on one processor, while your game take advantage of the other processor.

Silentst2000 · May 16, 2002, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by Malus
Or you could have all your background processes on one processor, while your game take advantage of the other processor.

You could fold@home for R3D on one proc while game with the other.

Then again gaming performance will take a hit as the dual cpu amd chipset scores slower than the kt266A....

Silentst2000 · May 16, 2002, 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by JavaFox
If you uncompromisingly need THE FASTEST SYSTEM, I am curious as to why you'd choose a P4 2.53GHz over dual Athlon MP 2000+s. Or, hell, why don't you go with 64 UltraSparcs? Sun's got a $30,000,000 dollar computer for sale, I'm sure IT'S faster than the vaunted P4.

What? What's that you say? Price IS a consideration?

Oh, well, then the newest P4 isn't really worth a damn, then is it?

Lol you really are the intel hater around here.

If your rich and are a hardcore gamer then you'd get the p4 as mp's arn't good for gaming and I don't know of many sun super computers that can play games as well...

illiterateSneak · May 16, 2002, 12:43 AM

Or you could stick a finger in your ass and call yourself a pony!!!!

Silentst2000 · May 16, 2002, 01:21 AM

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Originally posted by illiterateSneak
Or you could stick a finger in your ass and call yourself a pony!!!!

Wow you must be an expert on that!

So are you really a pony!?

Renegade[CSR] · May 17, 2002, 12:00 AM

Wait for the clawhammer. That is all.

JavaFox · May 17, 2002, 02:25 AM

Indeed. Intel fans act like once Intel produces a processor marginally faster AMD will suddenly burst into flames or throw in the towel. Yeah, yeah, so your chip performs a little bit better (it's only clocked 800MHz higher). That doesn't mean the P4 is going to stay on top for any length of time.

STOP!

Hammer TIME!

Silentst2000 · May 17, 2002, 03:14 AM

hammer looks to be quite nice.

Now if Intel counters with yamill then things should get real interesting.

Prescott is another thing too. =/ Intel got all kinds of chips.

JavaFox · May 18, 2002, 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by Silentst2000
=/ Intel got all kinds of chips.

Yeah, and not one of them worth a damn!

Silentst2000 · May 29, 2002, 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by JavaFox
Yeah, and not one of them worth a damn!

No cpu is worth a damn anyways...in 2 years it will be like 50 bucks new.

dipstick · May 29, 2002, 09:12 PM

The 2200XP thoroughbred is going on sale in less than a week

And yes the crown will be where it belongs again

JavaFox · May 30, 2002, 01:46 AM

kakarot, it's that kind of ignorance that gives AMD users a bad name. Thoroughbred is a good step, but it is not revolutionary. We aren't going to see any kind of better performance, clock-for-clock. What we're going to have is a cooler Palomino. I think it's going to take a true 2GHz part from AMD to firmly regain the performance crown from the Northwood-Bs.

Intel whores are stupid, but dumb AMD fans are pretty intolerable as well.

dipstick · May 30, 2002, 02:20 AM

Maybe that was kinda harsh but I have a pretty good reason to hate Intel. Anyway it went kinda like this; I wanted to replace my aging Athlon with the newest, fastest tech out there which at the time looked like it was a 1.8Ghz P4 paired with RDRAM. So I got myself one for an insane amount of money and I figured I would have very, very fast PC. But to my amazement it wasn't even close to what I already had which cost 1/3 the money. My trusty AMD beat that thing like a red headed stepchild in everyway. I was very lucky my brother was looking for a PC at the time so I passed it on without loosing out. I was very unhappy with my purchase. Anyway Intel will never be good with me because they severely overprice every weak processor they make. How can that thing have a price like that? I learned the hardway

Sorry if you don't like what I said but Intel just rapes people left and right. Maybe they got their act together now but it's too late for me. I didn't mean to upset anyone in anyway

JavaFox · May 30, 2002, 03:31 AM

kakarot, I'm not trying to convince you that Intel is worth a damn. Read some of my other posts; you'll see that I hate Intel with a vehemence exceeded by few others.

But the P4 2.53GHz does beat anything AMD's got, except for in 3D rendering tests. Not by much --and not for long-- but it does, and denying that is pretty much ridiculous.

dipstick · May 30, 2002, 05:19 PM

It's all good

I also agree with you 100%, that new P4 seems to be screamer. Now if they could only sell them for a reasonable price.

Silentst2000 · Jun 5, 2002, 07:33 PM

On the topic of hammer...
What makes you think prescott isn't going to be a screamer?
and you can throw the 64 bit crap out the window because its going to be a good while tell 64 bit is TRUELY used by the mainstream. Not a one line of code so it uses a few bits so they can say its 64 bit, as in marketing bullshit.

May 15, 2002, 12:39 AM	#1
Silentst2000 Can I be cool? Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 355 Rep Power: 0	The p4 northwood/rambus show's its might...tbred is no where to be seen? Well its nice to know that the p4 finaly w/o a doubt claimed the performance crown yet again. (of course its going to be pricy) __________________ P4@2.4ghz Radeon 9700pro DDR 400 Nuff said

May 15, 2002, 02:39 AM	#2
Malus BSD SMASH! Join Date: May 2002 Location: A rabbit hole. . . Posts: 1,170 Rep Power: 0	I could just buy two Athlon MP's for the price of one new Intel CPU and run a nice duel processor system. EDIT CYBORG: Yes. (Just testing the forum BTW) __________________ quad (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel Q6600 - Asus P5E-VM HDMI - 2x2 GB Kingston PC6400 DDR2 Ram - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - 2xSeagate 1TB 7200RPM HD in RAID 1 via ZFS - Lite-On 20x DVD Multi Recorder - Coolermaster Centurion 5 router (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel E4500 - Intel D945GCNL - 2 GB PC6400 Mushkin Ram - Lite-On 48x24x48x16 - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - Silverstone SST-SG02-F wanderer (FreeBSD/i386 7-CURRENT): Lenovo Thinkpad T61p mini (OS X 10.5): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8Ghz, 4 GB Mushkin PC5400 Ram - Headroom MicroDAC Portable sound: Rockboxed iPod Video -> Westone UM2's Not-So-Portable Sound: Headroon MicroDAC -> Singlepower PPX3-SLAM -> Grado RS-1's or Beyerdynamic DT-880's Very-Not-Portable-Sound: Squeezebox v3 -> Denon AVR-1507 -> B&W 683's & Sunfire HRS-10

May 15, 2002, 05:16 AM	#3
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Intel fans must have cash to burn... If you uncompromisingly need THE FASTEST SYSTEM, I am curious as to why you'd choose a P4 2.53GHz over dual Athlon MP 2000+s. Or, hell, why don't you go with 64 UltraSparcs? Sun's got a $30,000,000 dollar computer for sale, I'm sure IT'S faster than the vaunted P4. What? What's that you say? Price IS a consideration? Oh, well, then the newest P4 isn't really worth a damn, then is it?

May 15, 2002, 06:09 PM	#4
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	bah multiple processors of any type won't do jack for almost every game on the planet. so why buy dual MP's? So you can run your 30 hit a day website uberfast over your 28.8 connection with a redhat server? or, would you actually like playable framerates (50+fps) in morrowind?

May 15, 2002, 07:21 PM	#5
Malus BSD SMASH! Join Date: May 2002 Location: A rabbit hole. . . Posts: 1,170 Rep Power: 0	Or you could have all your background processes on one processor, while your game take advantage of the other processor. __________________ quad (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel Q6600 - Asus P5E-VM HDMI - 2x2 GB Kingston PC6400 DDR2 Ram - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - 2xSeagate 1TB 7200RPM HD in RAID 1 via ZFS - Lite-On 20x DVD Multi Recorder - Coolermaster Centurion 5 router (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel E4500 - Intel D945GCNL - 2 GB PC6400 Mushkin Ram - Lite-On 48x24x48x16 - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - Silverstone SST-SG02-F wanderer (FreeBSD/i386 7-CURRENT): Lenovo Thinkpad T61p mini (OS X 10.5): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8Ghz, 4 GB Mushkin PC5400 Ram - Headroom MicroDAC Portable sound: Rockboxed iPod Video -> Westone UM2's Not-So-Portable Sound: Headroon MicroDAC -> Singlepower PPX3-SLAM -> Grado RS-1's or Beyerdynamic DT-880's Very-Not-Portable-Sound: Squeezebox v3 -> Denon AVR-1507 -> B&W 683's & Sunfire HRS-10

May 16, 2002, 12:43 AM	#8
illiterateSneak Resident Hard-Ass Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	Or you could stick a finger in your ass and call yourself a pony!!!!

May 17, 2002, 12:00 AM	#10
Renegade[CSR] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Undisclosed Renegade Location Posts: 396 Rep Power: 0	Wait for the clawhammer. That is all.

May 17, 2002, 02:25 AM	#11
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	It is coming... Indeed. Intel fans act like once Intel produces a processor marginally faster AMD will suddenly burst into flames or throw in the towel. Yeah, yeah, so your chip performs a little bit better (it's only clocked 800MHz higher). That doesn't mean the P4 is going to stay on top for any length of time. STOP! Hammer TIME!

May 17, 2002, 03:14 AM	Thread Starter #12
Silentst2000 Can I be cool? Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 355 Rep Power: 0	hammer looks to be quite nice. Now if Intel counters with yamill then things should get real interesting. Prescott is another thing too. =/ Intel got all kinds of chips. __________________ P4@2.4ghz Radeon 9700pro DDR 400 Nuff said

May 29, 2002, 09:12 PM	#15
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	The 2200XP thoroughbred is going on sale in less than a week And yes the crown will be where it belongs again

May 30, 2002, 01:46 AM	#16
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	kakarot, it's that kind of ignorance that gives AMD users a bad name. Thoroughbred is a good step, but it is not revolutionary. We aren't going to see any kind of better performance, clock-for-clock. What we're going to have is a cooler Palomino. I think it's going to take a true 2GHz part from AMD to firmly regain the performance crown from the Northwood-Bs. Intel whores are stupid, but dumb AMD fans are pretty intolerable as well.

May 30, 2002, 02:20 AM	#17
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	Maybe that was kinda harsh but I have a pretty good reason to hate Intel. Anyway it went kinda like this; I wanted to replace my aging Athlon with the newest, fastest tech out there which at the time looked like it was a 1.8Ghz P4 paired with RDRAM. So I got myself one for an insane amount of money and I figured I would have very, very fast PC. But to my amazement it wasn't even close to what I already had which cost 1/3 the money. My trusty AMD beat that thing like a red headed stepchild in everyway. I was very lucky my brother was looking for a PC at the time so I passed it on without loosing out. I was very unhappy with my purchase. Anyway Intel will never be good with me because they severely overprice every weak processor they make. How can that thing have a price like that? I learned the hardway Sorry if you don't like what I said but Intel just rapes people left and right. Maybe they got their act together now but it's too late for me. I didn't mean to upset anyone in anyway

May 30, 2002, 03:31 AM	#18
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	kakarot, I'm not trying to convince you that Intel is worth a damn. Read some of my other posts; you'll see that I hate Intel with a vehemence exceeded by few others. But the P4 2.53GHz does beat anything AMD's got, except for in 3D rendering tests. Not by much --and not for long-- but it does, and denying that is pretty much ridiculous.

May 30, 2002, 05:19 PM	#19
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	It's all good I also agree with you 100%, that new P4 seems to be screamer. Now if they could only sell them for a reasonable price.

Jun 5, 2002, 07:33 PM	Thread Starter #20
Silentst2000 Can I be cool? Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 355 Rep Power: 0	On the topic of hammer... What makes you think prescott isn't going to be a screamer? and you can throw the 64 bit crap out the window because its going to be a good while tell 64 bit is TRUELY used by the mainstream. Not a one line of code so it uses a few bits so they can say its 64 bit, as in marketing bullshit. __________________ P4@2.4ghz Radeon 9700pro DDR 400 Nuff said