Ok, let's start a good fight: 3dm2k1se: What's a "good" score?

digitalwanderer · Aug 24, 2002, 12:54 AM

I hear it asked an awful hell of a lot, "What's a good 3dm2k1se score?", and I think the answer can only be found in the Flamezone. (I have a feeling it could be a sensitive subject to some, 3dm2k1se scores being related to penis size and all.

)

So hears my take on 3dm2k1se scores to get the ball rolling:

A gaming rig should score at least 3K on 3dm2k1se to be "decent", at least 6K to be "good", and at least 8K to make it a "great" gaming rig. Over 10K is "leet" as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, big shocker that the 3 numbers I chose were approximately the 3 marks I've gotten withing all my upgrades over the last year...but that's the only thing I can base it on. (I also think that 8500 scores should be reduced by about 20% to reflect their real-life gaming performance, but that's probably a whole 'nother thread.

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UberLord · Aug 24, 2002, 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by digitalwanderer
(I also think that 8500 scores should be reduced by about 20% to reflect their real-life gaming performance, but that's probably a whole 'nother thread. )

Matrox Parhelia scores should be increased 150% to reflect their real world performance.
A high 3D Mark score is they only thing it doesn't do well.

But then, I didn't buy it to "play" 3D Mark

~~ByteMe~~ · Aug 24, 2002, 05:51 AM

Whom gives a $hit? Everyone knows 3dmark is complete bull.

edit: this is OT but I don't care.... hey dig thanks for the stuff from along time ago that you sent.... and you su(k. That is all.

Dom · Aug 24, 2002, 06:05 AM

Yeah, the scores can be changed with a HTML program, right?

MikeDaMan · Aug 24, 2002, 06:29 AM

Hey Dom, What kind of score do you get? You seem to have a decent rig.

JavaFox · Aug 24, 2002, 06:38 AM

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Originally posted by UberLord
But then, I didn't buy it to "play" 3D Mark

Obviously somebody doesn't know about "Holy Cow!"

Dom · Aug 24, 2002, 06:48 AM

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Originally posted by MikeDaMan
Hey Dom, What kind of score do you get? You seem to have a decent rig.

Don't know, never used any benchmark programs, If my system works like it's supposed to, then I don't care about any numbers.

But, I'm gonna d/l 3DM2K1SE now to see.

radTube · Aug 24, 2002, 08:18 AM

I used to run 3dmark every time I changed something in my rig. Imagine my disappointment when I bought my latest vid card and got a "great" score, but my penis hadn't grown any bigger than before!! Not that my gf ever complained, but it was still hard to see my whole world crumble. I'm glad I never built that shrine to MadOnion after all.

PS: For those with complaining girlfriends/wifes, just take a hotmail account and you'll be showered with junk mail pushing various pills/lotions/potions that should help you achieve your goal

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SPANKtheMONKEY · Aug 24, 2002, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by digitalwanderer
A gaming rig should score at least 3K on 3dm2k1se to be "decent", at least 6K to be "good", and at least 8K to make it a "great" gaming rig. Over 10K is "leet" as far as I'm concerned.

What fucking planet r u on? Those scores are sooooo yesterday!
I take ur scores and I piss all ovr them from a great height. Then I drop my pants and shit on them, rubbing the excess faeces into a peanut sarnie which I'm going 2 force feed u

Call urself a geek? I call u a "has-been", "wanna be" and "never will be"

These dayz, 8k is "decent", 10k is "great" and 15k+ is "1337"

Get wit da program!

Dom · Aug 24, 2002, 12:29 PM

Okay, my score is 6913. Here's the compare link. BTW all 3DM2K1SE settings were at defualt, FSB @ 118, video card not OC'd.

Updated for you Digital!

digitalwanderer · Aug 24, 2002, 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by Dom
Okay, my score is 6913. Here's the compare link. BTW all settings were at defualt.

118FSB is default?!? What an odd pc you have....

What do you have your GF3 clocked at? I'd be willing to bet it's your bottleneck right now. My current gaming rig (Bubbles) is a 1.4celery@1.6666, TUSL2-C, 512MB, GF3 240/530 (Everyday settings, not going for the big numbers.

) and scores just about the same

It seems weird that you have at least half a gigahertz on me but we score about the same, 3dm2k1se is such bullsh*t. (But it's still my favorite game!

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Aug 24, 2002, 03:36 PM

True Digi he should be getting at least 1000 or more than you.
All that cooling that he using ...for what ???

im getting a 6100 mark with my rig and as you can see i cant really OC it
cause of the mobo and noname ram.

But he does have a Ti200 (a bit slower than 500)

digitalwanderer · Aug 24, 2002, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by SPANKtheMONKEY
Call urself a geek? I call u a "has-been", "wanna be" and "never will be"

These dayz, 8k is "decent", 10k is "great" and 15k+ is "1337"
Get wit da program!

Please don't hold back, tell me how you really feel about it.

That's one of the reasons I started this thread, I think that your 8-10-15K rating is about spot-on with what a lot of people think...but I say that's bullsh*t! According to that thinking my current gaming rig that "only" scores 6954 on 3dm2k1se wouldn't even make it to "decent"....but it can run any game out there at 1024x768 and not drop below 40fps during slowdowns?!? I can enable 4x aniso & still keep the FPS over 70 on most first-person shooters, yet my rig is only "decent"?!?

I think not. That's why I wanted to see what other peeps think. I used to be quite happy gaming when my rig was kicking 3K, at 6-7K it's obscenely nice to me. I think 10K+ is only for bragging rights as there just ain't anything on the market that really needs that much horsepower to be playable.

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Originally posted by GREEKRAGE
True Digi he should be getting at least 1000 or more than you.
All that cooling that he using ...for what ???

im getting a 6100 mark with my rig and as you can see i cant really OC it
cause of the mobo and noname ram.

But he does have a Ti200 (a bit slower than 500)

Yeah, I'm getting about the same with Blue & my 8500 currently with a PIII800@944. But since my FSB is oc-ed I'm just a tad higher. (3dm2k1se LOVES faster FSB.) And I don't have a ti500, it's just a vanilla GF3. (Well, not quite "vanilla". Her name is "littleZ" and she's a used card that was modded by a master and runs 240/530 24/7....I like it when my friends upgrade.

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reno · Aug 24, 2002, 07:42 PM

I judge by Anti-Aliasing speed...in quincunx with 4tap anio

5200 (around what I get) is decent, 8000 (if I had a GF4) is good, and 10,000 (if I had a 9700) is excellent.

Anything less than 7500 sucks at default settings.

And a parhelia is slower than a gf4 in jedi knight 2, quake 3, and serious sam 2...at least according to crappy magazines such as maximum pc and computer gaming world...and pc gamer.

As soon as the 9700 from ATI comes out there will be no place for the parhelia in the 400 dolla bracket, it can do everything the parhelia does (except surround gaming, which sucks) faster and cheaper. 340 bucks for a brand new 9700 pro which can score 12,000 3dmarks on MY rig and 10,000 with 4xAA and 8xAnio...or 370 for a parhelia...which performs WORSE than my ti500 in Jedi Knight with 2x antialiasing?

I just can't wait for the .13 NV30...sweet bejeebus...if it's only marginally better hopefully it'll drive the 9700 down in price and I'll buy that beast.

~~ByteMe~~ · Aug 25, 2002, 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by digitalwanderer

I think 10K+ is only for bragging rights as there just ain't anything on the market that really needs that much horsepower to be playable.

Do you want me to sic hellbinder on you. That statement is biased to your assbackwards hillbilly way of life. A real gamer would not settle for anything less than the fastest available, whatever that was.

digitalwanderer · Aug 25, 2002, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by ByteMe
A real gamer would not settle for anything less than the fastest available, whatever that was.

A real gamer maybe, but I'm a guy who loves to play games/tweak computers and is operating on a real short IT budget here. Kids & house seem to be a higher priority for the wife than system upgrades lately, and she's the one earning the paychecks. (Not to mention the fact that she's entirely correct no matter how much I might personally disagree with her...

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UberLord · Aug 25, 2002, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by reno
And a parhelia is slower than a gf4 in jedi knight 2, quake 3, and serious sam 2...at least according to crappy magazines such as maximum pc and computer gaming world...and pc gamer.

As soon as the 9700 from ATI comes out there will be no place for the parhelia in the 400 dolla bracket, it can do everything the parhelia does (except surround gaming, which sucks) faster and cheaper. 340 bucks for a brand new 9700 pro which can score 12,000 3dmarks on MY rig and 10,000 with 4xAA and 8xAnio...or 370 for a parhelia...which performs WORSE than my ti500 in Jedi Knight with 2x antialiasing?

There's a bug with Jedi Knight 2 which turns off OpenGL extensions on the Parhelia because it thinks its a Matrox Gxxx card - thats easily fixable.

Once you've seen 16x FAA you'll never go back. Well, at least I won't

My system has more than enough horsepower for todays and tomorrows games with the Parhelia. Anything that has a minimum of 85fps constant is very very playable.

reno · Aug 25, 2002, 07:36 PM

But Uber...have you not seen the 9700? Full quality with little speed degredation...it'll count when real directx 8 and 9 games come out...what works well for today will be mediocre tomorrow...but what destroys everything now will be more than sufficient for doom 3 4xAA w/ 16tap anio!

hehe

I admit originally I liked the quality features on the parhelia (even if it was fairly slow) but now with the 9700 and the NV30 coming soon...I just can't bring myself to like it anymore...sorry

Dom · Aug 25, 2002, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by digitalwanderer
118FSB is default?!? What an odd pc you have....

What do you have your GF3 clocked at? I'd be willing to bet it's your bottleneck right now. My current gaming rig (Bubbles) is a 1.4celery@1.6666, TUSL2-C, 512MB, GF3 240/530 (Everyday settings, not going for the big numbers. ) and scores just about the same

It seems weird that you have at least half a gigahertz on me but we score about the same, 3dm2k1se is such bullsh*t. (But it's still my favorite game! )

Let me clearify myself, when I said all settings at default I ment in 3DM2K1SE.
Also my video card isn't OC'd.

Smoothdrive · Aug 26, 2002, 07:55 AM

Standard settings i get around 8700 non-oc'd I do use omega drivers for my 8500 wich are said to score lower on 3d mark..don't care about the score that much as long as all games run good on the sys.

~~ByteMe~~ · Aug 27, 2002, 03:30 AM

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Originally posted by digitalwanderer
A real gamer maybe, but I'm a guy who loves to play games/tweak computers and is operating on a real short IT budget here. Kids & house seem to be a higher priority for the wife than system upgrades lately, and she's the one earning the paychecks. (Not to mention the fact that she's entirely correct no matter how much I might personally disagree with her... )

I can't help it if you haven't trained your wife correctly. Send her over... I will.

Sep 2, 2002, 10:02 PM

well... my FUCKING score was 556... yes i think its time to go through an upgrade. Iam buying a new monitor today... and i will start working (im 15) for a new ATI Radeon 9000 with 128 MBs of ddr. Then after that i am getting 512 more megs of PC 2100 RAM... then i should get a pretty good score dont you think?

~~ByteMe~~ · Sep 3, 2002, 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by generalstupid
well... my ****ING score was 556... yes i think its time to go through an upgrade. Iam buying a new monitor today... and i will start working (im 15) for a new ATI Radeon 9000 with 128 MBs of ddr. Then after that i am getting 512 more megs of PC 2100 RAM... then i should get a pretty good score dont you think?

Dude the system your "upgrading" to is still slower than my "old" systems setting in the closet!! How can yout not be embarassed? I wouldn't think you'd even clain that! Geesh!

Sep 5, 2002, 12:39 AM

how would that be slow? and why would i be embarassed? that RAM would give me 768 MB's of DDR.

Sep 5, 2002, 12:40 AM

i think i miss-read your message... and remember... i am 15, and i buy EVERYTHING myself, i do the work. I would like to see you mow that many lawns

Ryoko · Sep 5, 2002, 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by generalstupid
i think i miss-read your message... and remember... i am 15, and i buy EVERYTHING myself, i do the work. I would like to see you mow that many lawns

don't say you're sorry... insult the homo and tell him how many bitches you've fucked...

this is the flame warzone, right?

Sep 5, 2002, 04:00 AM

i am insulting you you homo and i have fucked a bunch of bitches

Solarix · Sep 6, 2002, 12:19 AM

ok ya wanna talk about crap for 3d marks, i run a 550AMD Athlon Slot A cpu, w/ 512 mb ram, and a g3 ti200, i get around maybe 3600 or so marks,

~~ByteMe~~ · Sep 6, 2002, 03:42 AM

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Originally posted by generalstupid
i think i miss-read your message... and remember... i am 15, and i buy EVERYTHING myself, i do the work. I would like to see you mow that many lawns

You need to mow more lawns or you could pimp your mom and any sis's. I guess it ain't that bad considering the crap zar gets away with running this site.

Sep 6, 2002, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by ByteMe
You need to mow more lawns or you could pimp your mom and any sis's. I guess it ain't that bad considering the crap zar gets away with running this site.

you need to shut the fuck up. just cuz you pimp your dad doesnt mean im about to do it to my mom you nasty son of a bitch. and i notice you dont have your comp on here... to embarrased to tell us what it is. Scared the geeks on this forum fun of it?
i can't blame you. At least i have a decent-good rig right now. And when i'm done upgrading my computer... dammit... we're over the internet so i can't really do anything... well still. you get my point

Aug 24, 2002, 12:54 AM	#1
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	Ok, let's start a good fight: 3dm2k1se: What's a "good" score? I hear it asked an awful hell of a lot, "What's a good 3dm2k1se score?", and I think the answer can only be found in the Flamezone. (I have a feeling it could be a sensitive subject to some, 3dm2k1se scores being related to penis size and all. ) So hears my take on 3dm2k1se scores to get the ball rolling: A gaming rig should score at least 3K on 3dm2k1se to be "decent", at least 6K to be "good", and at least 8K to make it a "great" gaming rig. Over 10K is "leet" as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, big shocker that the 3 numbers I chose were approximately the 3 marks I've gotten withing all my upgrades over the last year...but that's the only thing I can base it on. (I also think that 8500 scores should be reduced by about 20% to reflect their real-life gaming performance, but that's probably a whole 'nother thread. ) __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Aug 24, 2002, 06:29 AM	#5
MikeDaMan DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 874 Rep Power: 0	Hey Dom, What kind of score do you get? You seem to have a decent rig. __________________ DFI Lanpart UT 250GB motherboard. 1GB 2X512 Crucial Ballistix PC 3200. AMD Athlon 64 3400+. Retail ATI Radeon X850XT PE AGP

Aug 24, 2002, 08:18 AM	#8
radTube just keepin' it cool Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 228 Rep Power: 0	I used to run 3dmark every time I changed something in my rig. Imagine my disappointment when I bought my latest vid card and got a "great" score, but my penis hadn't grown any bigger than before!! Not that my gf ever complained, but it was still hard to see my whole world crumble. I'm glad I never built that shrine to MadOnion after all. PS: For those with complaining girlfriends/wifes, just take a hotmail account and you'll be showered with junk mail pushing various pills/lotions/potions that should help you achieve your goal . __________________ [color=orange] [/color]

Aug 24, 2002, 12:29 PM	#10
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	My 3DM2K1SE score... Okay, my score is 6913. Here's the compare link. BTW all 3DM2K1SE settings were at defualt, FSB @ 118, video card not OC'd. Updated for you Digital!

Aug 24, 2002, 07:42 PM	#14
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	sdfg I judge by Anti-Aliasing speed...in quincunx with 4tap anio 5200 (around what I get) is decent, 8000 (if I had a GF4) is good, and 10,000 (if I had a 9700) is excellent. Anything less than 7500 sucks at default settings. And a parhelia is slower than a gf4 in jedi knight 2, quake 3, and serious sam 2...at least according to crappy magazines such as maximum pc and computer gaming world...and pc gamer. As soon as the 9700 from ATI comes out there will be no place for the parhelia in the 400 dolla bracket, it can do everything the parhelia does (except surround gaming, which sucks) faster and cheaper. 340 bucks for a brand new 9700 pro which can score 12,000 3dmarks on MY rig and 10,000 with 4xAA and 8xAnio...or 370 for a parhelia...which performs WORSE than my ti500 in Jedi Knight with 2x antialiasing? I just can't wait for the .13 NV30...sweet bejeebus...if it's only marginally better hopefully it'll drive the 9700 down in price and I'll buy that beast.

Aug 24, 2002, 05:51 AM	#3
~~ByteMe~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 761 Rep Power: 0	Whom gives a $hit? Everyone knows 3dmark is complete bull. edit: this is OT but I don't care.... hey dig thanks for the stuff from along time ago that you sent.... and you su(k. That is all.

Aug 24, 2002, 06:05 AM	#4
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, the scores can be changed with a HTML program, right?

Aug 24, 2002, 03:36 PM	#12
GREEKRAGE Guest Posts: n/a	True Digi he should be getting at least 1000 or more than you. All that cooling that he using ...for what ??? im getting a 6100 mark with my rig and as you can see i cant really OC it cause of the mobo and noname ram. But he does have a Ti200 (a bit slower than 500)

Aug 25, 2002, 07:36 PM	#18
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	hj But Uber...have you not seen the 9700? Full quality with little speed degredation...it'll count when real directx 8 and 9 games come out...what works well for today will be mediocre tomorrow...but what destroys everything now will be more than sufficient for doom 3 4xAA w/ 16tap anio! hehe I admit originally I liked the quality features on the parhelia (even if it was fairly slow) but now with the 9700 and the NV30 coming soon...I just can't bring myself to like it anymore...sorry

Aug 26, 2002, 07:55 AM	#20
Smoothdrive Foolish Genius Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 455 Rep Power: 0	Standard settings i get around 8700 non-oc'd I do use omega drivers for my 8500 wich are said to score lower on 3d mark..don't care about the score that much as long as all games run good on the sys. __________________ GA-7VRXP, AMD2000+, 256MB PC-2700 DDR, Radeon 8500LE, 2x Maxtor 740 (40GB) stripe set, AGNeovo X-150.

Sep 2, 2002, 10:02 PM	#22
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	sigh... well... my FUCKING score was 556... yes i think its time to go through an upgrade. Iam buying a new monitor today... and i will start working (im 15) for a new ATI Radeon 9000 with 128 MBs of ddr. Then after that i am getting 512 more megs of PC 2100 RAM... then i should get a pretty good score dont you think?

Sep 5, 2002, 12:39 AM	#24
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	... how would that be slow? and why would i be embarassed? that RAM would give me 768 MB's of DDR.

Sep 5, 2002, 12:40 AM	#25
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	sorrrrrrryyyyyyyyy gggguuuuuuyyyyyyyysssss i think i miss-read your message... and remember... i am 15, and i buy EVERYTHING myself, i do the work. I would like to see you mow that many lawns

Sep 5, 2002, 04:00 AM	#27
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	ok i am insulting you you homo and i have fucked a bunch of bitches

Sep 6, 2002, 12:19 AM	#28
Solarix DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Massachusetts (USA) Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	ok ya wanna talk about crap for 3d marks, i run a 550AMD Athlon Slot A cpu, w/ 512 mb ram, and a g3 ti200, i get around maybe 3600 or so marks, __________________ AMD Athlon 550Mhz Soyo Motherboard K7-VIA Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP1 512Meg PC133mhz SDRAM (2) Seagate 10Gb ASUS V8200 Deluxe GeForce3 - 1280x1024@32 bit (ahhh i need a new pc)