Best Software MP3 Player!!!!

Necrosis · May 16, 2002, 05:41 AM

Well this is pretty freaking easy the best software player has to be Sonic Foundry's [COLOR=blue]Siren 2.0c[/COLOR] WinCramp and MusicCrap(Match) just suck balls.

peroni · May 16, 2002, 07:10 PM

Is there any other player than Winamp??? Why??

Trunks0 · May 17, 2002, 05:19 AM

Winamp works fine by me

Necrosis · May 17, 2002, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by peroni
Is there any other player than Winamp??? Why??

Yes there is, a number of players that don't rely on play lists or a cheesey GUI to get by. Winamp has nice visuals, but so what? I like a player that does everything for you and it's just click and go.

JavaFox · May 17, 2002, 05:59 AM

WinAMP IS click and go. Small footprint, free, and cheerful. WinAMP is far superior to eye candy products such as Sonique and MusicMatch.

WinAMP is a good example of how to write tight code. After numerous releases, the core of WinAMP still remains under a 1MB. Everyone remember how ICQ ballooned from 400K to something like 5MB? WinAMP is a shining beacon of great programming in an Age of Bloat.

And it really whips the llama's ass

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Update: Okay, I just went to Sonic Foundry site and GOOD LORD! I'm sorry, but a music player that is 15.7MB?! I don't even need to download it to know it's horrible. Why the FUCK is it 15.7MB? I hate software these days. All prettied up and so bloated!

Necrosis · May 17, 2002, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JavaFox
WinAMP IS click and go. Small footprint, free, and cheerful. WinAMP is far superior to eye candy products such as Sonique and MusicMatch.

WinAMP is a good example of how to write tight code. After numerous releases, the core of WinAMP still remains under a 1MB. Everyone remember how ICQ ballooned from 400K to something like 5MB? WinAMP is a shining beacon of great programming in an Age of Bloat.

And it really whips the llama's ass

-----

Update: Okay, I just went to Sonic Foundry site and GOOD LORD! I'm sorry, but a music player that is 15.7MB?! I don't even need to download it to know it's horrible. Why the **** is it 15.7MB? I hate software these days. All prettied up and so bloated!

Ahhh but it's more than just a music player. I like being able to just go to to my MP3 directory and just scroll through want I want and just click play. Not like Winamp's slow scroll forever. I hate playlists, because they are time consuming and clumsy. Siren plays many varities of music file formats, as well as video and even quick time video. Everyone that I have introduced it to love it. It's a "true" Jukebox that will do just about anything you would ever want to. Winamp is better than MusicMatch..I will give you that. Yet you do get what you pay for. If your familar with Acid Pro, or Sound Forge you will easily fall instep with Siren. If you don't try something how can you say it's horrible? Didn't you mother ever tell that about trying new foods? Simple it's big because it does so much. However, since the advent of the free cheesey music players. Sonic Foundry has decided to take Siren off the market, because of all the competition and M$'s Media Player. I do have Winamp installed in my system. Everytime I try to use it, I feel like I'm getting behind the wheel of Geo Metro. Matter of fact I used to only use Winamp years ago, until I heard about Siren and thought I'd give it a try.

JavaFox · May 17, 2002, 07:54 AM

Okay, perhaps I misspoke. I am sure this software performs admirably. I couldn't possibly know that Siren is "horrible" since I've never used it, but I do know that it is software I'm not interesting in using.

WinAMP plays music. That's all it does, and that's all it needs to do. Sometimes they're useful, but for the most part I hate programs that integrate everything. Music software should play music. Video software? Video. I don't know that I necessarily like an all-in-one solution.

But in the name of science, I will see if I can check Siren out. Just so I have more credibility when I flame it.

Trunks0 · May 18, 2002, 09:20 AM

I personally like having dif programs for dif things. WinAmp plays all the audio ATI FilePlayer plays almost all the video(Damn quicktime and it's software decoded *.mov format)

Vaporizer · May 18, 2002, 09:53 AM

Someone here is crazy, winamp ROCKS!!

Necrosis · May 18, 2002, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trunks0
I personally like having dif programs for dif things. WinAmp plays all the audio ATI FilePlayer plays almost all the video(Damn quicktime and it's software decoded *.mov format)

I use ATI File Player as well. One bad thing about if you ever use an ATI card you get spoiled by the software that comes with it. Though I will say it's probably just me but using Fileplayer with my Geforce doesn't quite look as nice. I don't know why.

Impulse · May 19, 2002, 03:04 AM

Well I think Winamp is great Mp3 player, fast, simple and light. I don't like Soniqe or any other like Music Match Jukebox. Winamp is teh winner

brc64 · May 20, 2002, 06:21 PM

I like Winamp simply because it's small, out of the way, and I can control it (change songs, change volume, and even seek through a song) with my scroll wheel. Player and playlist are the size of a standard Windows title bar. MusicMatch Jukebox is a fine program, but even in its compact mode it's huge (in my opinion). I've never used Siren, but then again, I've never had a reason to. Winamp is the best, plain and simple.

- Me

Zardon · May 20, 2002, 06:25 PM

I must be the only person in the world who likes windows media player in XP ! lol :o

Candyman · May 20, 2002, 06:34 PM

I like WinAmp too.....I used to use Sonique player but now I am waiting for the final 2.0 release version of that proggie before I use it again.

Jeff · May 20, 2002, 06:34 PM

Nope. thats what I use too. WMP 8. Thats what I use, comes with Windoze, and it works exactly the way I want it to. Why download something else when WMP comes on the CD.

Jeff · May 20, 2002, 06:35 PM

Oh and if you use Windows 2000 and hate using WMP 7.1, download a ripped version of WMP8 from XP for use with Windows 2000 from http://www.windowsxp.nu.

May 20, 2002, 07:51 PM

MP3s SUCK ASS, WMA rocks. Mp3 is for old farts like you guys, big files and the sound sucks.

UberLord · May 20, 2002, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by Billy
WMA rocks

pfffft

WMA has been proved to be one of the worst formats for audio quality.

Jeff · May 20, 2002, 11:46 PM

Well all compressed audio sucks, if you actually listen, you can hear the phase shifting. The only compression I count is lossless compression of ACE/ZIP, etc. It may not be as small, but it keeps the sound quality. All my songs on my computer are either 384bit MP3 or WAVE.

(Mostly WAVE in ZIP format.)

brc64 · May 21, 2002, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyborg
Well all compressed audio sucks, if you actually listen, you can hear the phase shifting. The only compression I count is lossless compression of ACE/ZIP, etc. It may not be as small, but it keeps the sound quality. All my songs on my computer are either 384bit MP3 or WAVE.

(Mostly WAVE in ZIP format.)

Wow you have sensative ears.. I can't hear a difference between a 192 kbps MP3 and a CD. I guess in my case that's a blessing, whereas for you it's a curse.

- Me

Necrosis · May 21, 2002, 11:48 AM

Well I've tried Sonique and I will say I like Winamp better. Still I've really tried to give Winamp a chance, it just doesn't do what I would like it to do. If it would list all the files in my MP3 directory (just the file names) I would use it. I shouldn't have to spend all the time and effort to make up a stupid playlist. BTW, all my MP3's are at 320Kbps.

Necrosis · May 26, 2002, 09:35 AM

Well folks I'm going to make myself use WinAMP for a week. Many of you like it so it has to have some good qualities. Actually I'm using it right now. I finally downloaded Netscape 7 to test on my computer, and decided to download it with it. For some reason with the Netscape skin it made more sense to me. Currently I'm on the basic skin, I've always enjoyed the little spectrum analyzer the most. However, the only big drawback besides scrolling through files lists is it just doesn't sound as good when I use Siren. It does good pretty good but sounds very muddy, and I have messed around with it quite a bit to fix this. I know it's free so I can't expect professional quality. Just right now I'm on a setting on my Klipsch that normally would be almost unbearable, and with Winamp I can sit here like it's nothing.

So far my opinion of WinAMP is increasing, perhaps anyone have any pointers for me?

UberLord · May 26, 2002, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by Necrosis
So far my opinion of WinAMP is increasing, perhaps anyone have any pointers for me?

If you're streaming tunes off seperate tracks, then you really need to use the Crossfader output plugin as it mixes the next song into the last to kill the gaps. Works really well with all genres of dance music

Dejitaru Shuurajo · May 26, 2002, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by Necrosis
Well I've tried Sonique and I will say I like Winamp better. Still I've really tried to give Winamp a chance, it just doesn't do what I would like it to do. If it would list all the files in my MP3 directory (just the file names) I would use it. I shouldn't have to spend all the time and effort to make up a stupid playlist. BTW, all my MP3's are at 320Kbps.

Winamp does have that feature, it's in the Winamp Playlist window, press the ADD button, click ADD DIR, browse to your MP3 directory or drive, highlight the folder, press OK and VOILA, Winamp will now display all your MP3s in the playlist window. Leave the Recurse subdirectories box checked if your collection are seperated by folder.

Necrosis · May 27, 2002, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dejitaru Shuurajo
Winamp does have that feature, it's in the Winamp Playlist window, press the ADD button, click ADD DIR, browse to your MP3 directory or drive, highlight the folder, press OK and VOILA, Winamp will now display all your MP3s in the playlist window. Leave the Recurse subdirectories box checked if your collection are seperated by folder.

Yeah I figured it out...man quaint sig. you got there.

Funkybuffalo · May 28, 2002, 11:58 PM

Sonic Jukebox 2.0 is by far my favorite music managing software. I will give WinAMP it's props in the eyecandy department. It does have great visualizations, but that is it. The database interface is junk. I especially like the spyware embeded in some of the visuallizations. THOSE ARE GREAT!

For functionallity Jukebox wins hands-down. You can classify your collection and sort by genre, artist, album, or title. You can rip to your library in any format you would need. Easy to use CD burning (not that I need something easy, but it sure is nice). Plays and catalogues almost any video formats. You can easily retag your mp3s to get rid of those annoying wrong tags. I got the demo with my Acoustic Edge and liked it so much I actually bought the full version. That's right! I actually paid cash money for a computer program.

If you want a piece of crap in a fancy packaging you can do two things. 1) Buy a GeForce 4 MX 2)Download WinAMP.

Necrosis · May 29, 2002, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Funkybuffalo
Sonic Jukebox 2.0 is by far my favorite music managing software. I will give WinAMP it's props in the eyecandy department. It does have great visualizations, but that is it. The database interface is junk. I especially like the spyware embeded in some of the visuallizations. THOSE ARE GREAT!

For functionallity Jukebox wins hands-down. You can classify your collection and sort by genre, artist, album, or title. You can rip to your library in any format you would need. Easy to use CD burning (not that I need something easy, but it sure is nice). Plays and catalogues almost any video formats. You can easily retag your mp3s to get rid of those annoying wrong tags. I got the demo with my Acoustic Edge and liked it so much I actually bought the full version. That's right! I actually paid cash money for a computer program.

If you want a piece of crap in a fancy packaging you can do two things. 1) Buy a GeForce 4 MX 2)Download WinAMP.

Hell Yeah!!!

It just sucks it is no longer being sold!

UberLord · May 29, 2002, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Funkybuffalo

If you want a piece of crap in a fancy packaging you can do two things. 1) Buy a GeForce 4 MX 2)Download WinAMP.

Far simpler and cheaper to do a no #2 in birthday wrapping paper

~~Crash Override~~ · May 29, 2002, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Funkybuffalo
Sonic Jukebox 2.0 is by far my favorite music managing software. I will give WinAMP it's props in the eyecandy department. It does have great visualizations, but that is it. The database interface is junk. I especially like the spyware embeded in some of the visuallizations. THOSE ARE GREAT!

For functionallity Jukebox wins hands-down. You can classify your collection and sort by genre, artist, album, or title. You can rip to your library in any format you would need. Easy to use CD burning (not that I need something easy, but it sure is nice). Plays and catalogues almost any video formats. You can easily retag your mp3s to get rid of those annoying wrong tags. I got the demo with my Acoustic Edge and liked it so much I actually bought the full version. That's right! I actually paid cash money for a computer program.

If you want a piece of crap in a fancy packaging you can do two things. 1) Buy a GeForce 4 MX 2)Download WinAMP.

WTF are you talking about SmellyBison?

Winamp does have decent visualizations and how the hell do you embed spyware in a visualization? I dunno where you learned about computers but I suggest you get your money back cause you got gipped hard. Now Winamp in its 2.80 version has CD Burning built in Video playback of dvds and avi and mpg and lots of other formats built in. Not to mention that if you know how to setup your EQ right and pickup some of the EQ addon programs you can simulate any type of environment that you want (well that is if you can afford decent speakers which it seems you cant)

btw before ripping on a product try at least reading through its feature list before you spout off garbage and make an ass of yourself again

[SIZE=xx-small]so who thinks im still really really good at ripping people apart? hehe

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Necrosis · May 29, 2002, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crash Override
WTF are you talking about SmellyBison?

Winamp does have decent visualizations and how the hell do you embed spyware in a visualization? I dunno where you learned about computers but I suggest you get your money back cause you got gipped hard. Now Winamp in its 2.80 version has CD Burning built in Video playback of dvds and avi and mpg and lots of other formats built in. Not to mention that if you know how to setup your EQ right and pickup some of the EQ addon programs you can simulate any type of environment that you want (well that is if you can afford decent speakers which it seems you cant)

btw before ripping on a product try at least reading through its feature list before you spout off garbage and make an ass of yourself again

[SIZE=xx-small]so who thinks im still really really good at ripping people apart? hehe[/SIZE]

EQ addon programs, um where?

May 16, 2002, 05:41 AM	#1
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Best Software MP3 Player!!!! Well this is pretty freaking easy the best software player has to be Sonic Foundry's [COLOR=blue]Siren 2.0c[/COLOR] WinCramp and MusicCrap(Match) just suck balls.

May 17, 2002, 05:19 AM	#3
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver,B.C.,Canada Posts: 552 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Winamp works fine by me __________________

May 17, 2002, 05:59 AM	#5
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	WinAMP! WinAMP IS click and go. Small footprint, free, and cheerful. WinAMP is far superior to eye candy products such as Sonique and MusicMatch. WinAMP is a good example of how to write tight code. After numerous releases, the core of WinAMP still remains under a 1MB. Everyone remember how ICQ ballooned from 400K to something like 5MB? WinAMP is a shining beacon of great programming in an Age of Bloat. And it really whips the llama's ass ----- Update: Okay, I just went to Sonic Foundry site and GOOD LORD! I'm sorry, but a music player that is 15.7MB?! I don't even need to download it to know it's horrible. Why the FUCK is it 15.7MB? I hate software these days. All prettied up and so bloated!

May 18, 2002, 09:20 AM	#8
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver,B.C.,Canada Posts: 552 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I personally like having dif programs for dif things. WinAmp plays all the audio ATI FilePlayer plays almost all the video(Damn quicktime and it's software decoded *.mov format) __________________

May 20, 2002, 06:34 PM	#14
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May 16, 2002, 07:10 PM	#2
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May 17, 2002, 07:54 AM	#7
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Okay, perhaps I misspoke. I am sure this software performs admirably. I couldn't possibly know that Siren is "horrible" since I've never used it, but I do know that it is software I'm not interesting in using. WinAMP plays music. That's all it does, and that's all it needs to do. Sometimes they're useful, but for the most part I hate programs that integrate everything. Music software should play music. Video software? Video. I don't know that I necessarily like an all-in-one solution. But in the name of science, I will see if I can check Siren out. Just so I have more credibility when I flame it.

May 18, 2002, 09:53 AM	#9
Vaporizer WTF Join Date: May 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 174 Rep Power: 0	Someone here is crazy, winamp ROCKS!!

May 19, 2002, 03:04 AM	#11
Impulse l33t Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 248 Rep Power: 0	Well I think Winamp is great Mp3 player, fast, simple and light. I don't like Soniqe or any other like Music Match Jukebox. Winamp is teh winner

May 20, 2002, 06:21 PM	#12
brc64 Zeeky H. Bomb Join Date: May 2002 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 826 Rep Power: 0	I like Winamp simply because it's small, out of the way, and I can control it (change songs, change volume, and even seek through a song) with my scroll wheel. Player and playlist are the size of a standard Windows title bar. MusicMatch Jukebox is a fine program, but even in its compact mode it's huge (in my opinion). I've never used Siren, but then again, I've never had a reason to. Winamp is the best, plain and simple. - Me

May 20, 2002, 06:25 PM	#13
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	I must be the only person in the world who likes windows media player in XP ! lol :o

May 20, 2002, 06:34 PM	#15
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	Nope. thats what I use too. WMP 8. Thats what I use, comes with Windoze, and it works exactly the way I want it to. Why download something else when WMP comes on the CD. __________________

May 20, 2002, 06:35 PM	#16
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	Oh and if you use Windows 2000 and hate using WMP 7.1, download a ripped version of WMP8 from XP for use with Windows 2000 from http://www.windowsxp.nu. __________________

May 20, 2002, 07:51 PM	#17
Billy Guest Posts: n/a	MP3s SUCK ASS, WMA rocks. Mp3 is for old farts like you guys, big files and the sound sucks.

May 20, 2002, 11:46 PM	#19
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	Well all compressed audio sucks, if you actually listen, you can hear the phase shifting. The only compression I count is lossless compression of ACE/ZIP, etc. It may not be as small, but it keeps the sound quality. All my songs on my computer are either 384bit MP3 or WAVE. (Mostly WAVE in ZIP format.) __________________

May 21, 2002, 11:48 AM	Thread Starter #21
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Well I've tried Sonique and I will say I like Winamp better. Still I've really tried to give Winamp a chance, it just doesn't do what I would like it to do. If it would list all the files in my MP3 directory (just the file names) I would use it. I shouldn't have to spend all the time and effort to make up a stupid playlist. BTW, all my MP3's are at 320Kbps.

May 26, 2002, 09:35 AM	Thread Starter #22
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Well folks I'm going to make myself use WinAMP for a week. Many of you like it so it has to have some good qualities. Actually I'm using it right now. I finally downloaded Netscape 7 to test on my computer, and decided to download it with it. For some reason with the Netscape skin it made more sense to me. Currently I'm on the basic skin, I've always enjoyed the little spectrum analyzer the most. However, the only big drawback besides scrolling through files lists is it just doesn't sound as good when I use Siren. It does good pretty good but sounds very muddy, and I have messed around with it quite a bit to fix this. I know it's free so I can't expect professional quality. Just right now I'm on a setting on my Klipsch that normally would be almost unbearable, and with Winamp I can sit here like it's nothing. So far my opinion of WinAMP is increasing, perhaps anyone have any pointers for me?

May 28, 2002, 11:58 PM	#26
Funkybuffalo DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Huntington,WV Posts: 75 Rep Power: 0	Sonic Foundry 's Sonic Jukebox 2.0 RULES!!! Sonic Jukebox 2.0 is by far my favorite music managing software. I will give WinAMP it's props in the eyecandy department. It does have great visualizations, but that is it. The database interface is junk. I especially like the spyware embeded in some of the visuallizations. THOSE ARE GREAT! For functionallity Jukebox wins hands-down. You can classify your collection and sort by genre, artist, album, or title. You can rip to your library in any format you would need. Easy to use CD burning (not that I need something easy, but it sure is nice). Plays and catalogues almost any video formats. You can easily retag your mp3s to get rid of those annoying wrong tags. I got the demo with my Acoustic Edge and liked it so much I actually bought the full version. That's right! I actually paid cash money for a computer program. If you want a piece of crap in a fancy packaging you can do two things. 1) Buy a GeForce 4 MX 2)Download WinAMP.