Bush

Borealis · Aug 23, 2004, 07:47 PM

Wow nacht, I've been fuckin pwned by you're 'oh so better than mine' info about the dow and nasdaq...........

Ok hows this then about the economy, bush's war is more important to him than the economy.

Of course the economy recovered after 9/11, would be pretty hard for it not to recover somewhat.

Which war will be next? Iran? North Korea? Hell, China maybe? Who knows, maybe he'll do something stupid and start world war 3? I wouldn't put it out of his range.

The worst thing people had to worry about when clinton was in office was what dirty things he was doing to monica lewinsky behind the doors, and kosovo. Granted 9/11 didn't happen I'll give bush that, and thats all I'll give him.

Bushie Jr. had to finish what daddy couldn't, just couldn't worry about catching osama first and destroying al qaeda, had to have a war to go along with it. So many years later and he's still clueless to osama mamas whereabouts. Sad.

P.S. Good points phong. Everything I thought about an hour after I posted.

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · Aug 23, 2004, 08:05 PM

Borealis: (BTW...is that Flock of Seagulls I hear?)

Quote:

Result to a petty insult because...

I believe you mean Resort or even more correctly Result(s)
to a petty insult.

Genius...

Now, I'm going to leave the Political forums this forum does
nothing but cause endless...ENDLESS*...arguments.

Anything having to do with religion or politics has no place at a
PC tech...Driver website. IMHO. There are 1,000's upon 1,000's
of political sites out there....

Why here? Why do people, and mainly Americans, have to
come here and see some headline on the front page/hot topics,
insulting the USA...yet again? For the 1 billionth time?
(Ducks as Zardon takes a big swing...

)

Trust me...if you are not an American, but yet want to criticize
us for everything in the world, we do not want you to come here
even for a vacation.

We have enough welfare patients, illegal immigrants, and guilt riders, ("ridahs") that we have to take out and shoot,
oops mean coddle and cajole as it is.

France needs tourism...badly. Go there.

Germany is pretty
hard up for 50% of your money in taxes as well. Have a partay.

*This topic is in the Flame warzone???* Appropriate

Borealis · Aug 23, 2004, 10:29 PM

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Now, I'm going to leave the Political forums this forum does
nothing but cause endless...ENDLESS*...arguments.

YOU FORGOT THE COMMA GENIUS!!!

phongtruong12 · Aug 23, 2004, 11:50 PM

I AM a U.S. citizen and was born in Georgia. I'm Asian but still American. Well there is a Political Debate forum on these forums, but this thread is about Bush, so I guess it goes under Flame Warzone. I do hate non-Americans that try to criticize our government when they haven't lived here. It's the same thing with the Olympics. Everyone's trying to shut the U.S. down when we're owning the swimming pool. I can't say that much for some of the other sports, but hey competition is good.

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · Aug 24, 2004, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Borealis

YOU FORGOT THE COMMA GENIUS!!!

Yeah...but I didn't waste 15 minutes with a spell checking program either.

I am actually fully and functionally literate.

And good points there Phong.

Falstaff · Aug 24, 2004, 04:32 PM

Everyone has something to say about a president that kicked ass on two hostile nations.

Everyone has something to say about a Texan

Everyone has something to say about a man that may have mispoke, but carry's a big stick.

Even a hopelessly misguided and mishapen bag of human excrement like "Michael Moore"

Dom · Aug 24, 2004, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fallang_jeff

Everyone has something to say about a president that kicked ass on two hostile nations.

But one was for noting and the other has yet to claim any major victory. Osama bin Laden is still at large and the big-name terrorists haven't been found in Afghanistan, most were found in Pakistan by the Pakistan Government.

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Everyone has something to say about a Texan

Everyone has something to say about "red necks" from Virginia, etc. too. Your point?

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Everyone has something to say about a man that may have mispoke, but carry's a big stick.

Has, not "may". Everyone makes fun of people whom appear to be mentally challenged. It's human nature.

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Even a hopelessly misguided and mishapen bag of human excrement like "Michael Moore"

I'd say about 50% of the US agrees with him and more so outside of it, so they're all "excrement" too. It's only natural, I suppose...to bash others who do not share your opinions or beliefs...

GutterPunk · Aug 24, 2004, 05:13 PM

The US likes to jump on bandwagons though, we are supposed to be all independant or whatever but we still jump on bandwagons... people jumped on the religious coming together prayer thing right after 9/11 as it faded out we are back to normal... we go in stages of what the populous thinks what is right...

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · Aug 24, 2004, 07:59 PM

Tell ya what any bleeding heart liberal, tree-hugging,
brain dead ass who happens to be reading..
...go to Spain where the former leader actually
negotiated and did what a terror cell wanted him to do.
Guess what happened to Spain. Yep...the terrorists
bombed him and his country anyway. Dumbass x 10.

The Muslims and especially the Extremist Muslims,
(although even the most basic Koran EVERY MudDumbass
reads, encourages "Jihad" or "war" and "death" on ANYONE, including the French, Germany,...everyone..puppy eyes...
INCLUDING YOU.

Just for the simple reason that unless you are Muslim,
you are a "dog" an "infedel". Just ask the guy in Spain.

That's called blind hate...also it's called RACISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These people, rough estimate of 65-75% of Arabian born, Muslims have no reasoning ability. They are not inferior.

It's a CULTURAL thing going back hundreds of years.

The world would be a better place if not without these people, then at least without the Muslim religion.

All religions seem to be so single-minded and warped these
days.

Borealis · Aug 24, 2004, 08:29 PM

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Yeah...but I didn't waste 15 minutes with a spell checking program either

Yeah I didn't spend 15 minutes proof reading mine either....

Falstaff · Aug 24, 2004, 08:38 PM

Osama's hiding place is well known, we are presently not allowed to go after him, because the accomplices we worked with back in the 90's when we actually funded him and the pakistani government, he is not far from the Pakistani northern border.
Everyone makes fun of rednecks and people from Texas, Both Kerry and Bush come from an IVY league school and belong to the same alumi club, they actually stick up for each other occasionally, and you will see more of it.
If there is anyone mentally challenged, it must be those that think Bush is an embicile or incapable of fulfilling his obligation to the United States. He did precisely what an overwhelming number of Americans, republican and democrat wanted him to do, he chased the terrorists back into holes, and we are still picking them off piecemeal. The people that bitch the most probably dont vote anyway, but God they complain...
Micheal Moore perverted the truth, obscured vital facts and attempted to curry favor with the Hollywood left with his movie, it wasn't even a documentary, it was by definition, entertainment and a farce.
I give credibility and support to the person that stood up to the EU knowing full well they were in collusion with the SADDAM's government, and told them he would go with or without their support.
The EU is soft, and bereft of credibility in the United Nations, but are quick to blame the US, and of course Pres. Bush.
I am proud to be an American, and proud to have served Pres Bush, and I am proud that my brother serves in IRAQ now. I would be hesistant to endorse Kerry, and I think Kerry would too. Even democrats think Kerry is a phony, but he is all they have.
At the very worst, it is the evil of two lessers....the worst being Kerry.
You want people to give Kerry a break, just tell them..."leggo my eggo"
and the waffle will abide..
but he will never be president...
nice try Hollywood left, but we know who keeps the country running
and who puts food on the table, and sends our sons and daughters to serve...
it sure as hell isnt the Hollywood left....or the radical democrats..

Dom · Aug 24, 2004, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fallang_jeff

Osama's hiding place is well known, we are presently not allowed to go after him, because the accomplices we worked with back in the 90's when we actually funded him and the pakistani government, he is not far from the Pakistani northern border.

Or, perhaps it is because Bush doesn't see bin Laded as a priority...

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Everyone makes fun of rednecks and people from Texas, Both Kerry and Bush come from an IVY league school and belong to the same alumi club, they actually stick up for each other occasionally, and you will see more of it.
If there is anyone mentally challenged, it must be those that think Bush is an embicile or incapable of fulfilling his obligation to the United States. He did precisely what an overwhelming number of Americans, republican and democrat wanted him to do, he chased the terrorists back into holes, and we are still picking them off piecemeal. The people that bitch the most probably dont vote anyway, but God they complain...
Micheal Moore perverted the truth, obscured vital facts and attempted to curry favor with the Hollywood left with his movie, it wasn't even a documentary, it was by definition, entertainment and a farce.

I think we can accuse the Bush Administration of obscuring "vital facts" facts too. Didn't they black out parts of the first 9/11 investigation's findings?

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I give credibility and support to the person that stood up to the EU knowing full well they were in collusion with the SADDAM's government, and told them he would go with or without their support.
The EU is soft, and bereft of credibility in the United Nations, but are quick to blame the US, and of course Pres. Bush.

The EU is soft. The UN is soft. Of course everything that is not American is soft and inferior, naturally...

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I am proud to be an American, and proud to have served Pres Bush, and I am proud that my brother serves in IRAQ now. I would be hesistant to endorse Kerry, and I think Kerry would too. Even democrats think Kerry is a phony, but he is all they have.

Of course some Democrats think he's a "phony", but can you say that some Republicans don't think Bush is too? Arguing a point against itself is useless.

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At the very worst, it is the evil of two lessers....the worst being Kerry.
You want people to give Kerry a break, just tell them..."leggo my eggo"
and the waffle will abide..
but he will never be president...
nice try Hollywood left, but we know who keeps the country running
and who puts food on the table, and sends our sons and daughters to serve...
it sure as hell isnt the Hollywood left....or the radical democrats..

Do you have any other reasons (other than your overused "waffle" sayings). Reasons that you can actually list and say that the Bush Administraion has not also done?

Falstaff · Aug 24, 2004, 10:08 PM

The waffle is well known for describing the voting history of Senator Kerry, and his recent stand on his Vietnam war record, I had the privilege of seeing much of the interview with Kerry after the war and the subsequent debate on the Dick Cavett show. He was emotional and irrational, and did not carry much wieght then. Jane Fonda's own recollections of Kerry put him in the same league as Bush in terms of professional politicians. I am not arguing the point but in the Flaming Warzone, seems almost appropriate to sling some mud on the star of "I was a riverine force captian" starring John Kerry...bwahahahhaha

Osama has always been a priority, but he is clever and some say genius in a maniacal way. He uses his political influence and his decades old alliances with the his hill tribesman to protect him. To intervene and pursue Bin Laden forced him into a hole, where he can be monitored, his exact position we are not privelged to, but like Pablo Escobar in Columbia, we will allow him to reveal his subordinates and his terror machine and we will prosecute them too, and we have successfully too. We CAN and often do monitor Bin Laden and his henchman from a safe distance. If Pakistan would only allow us free reign in his country and Uzbekistan we could easily force the entire compliment of his immediate followers and eliminate them...But the story is bigger than that, he actually has several satellite cells that operate in concert with him, and for him, and we are weeding them out, one by one...Unfortunately he enjoys the luxury of being support by nations that we also do business with, including the Saudi government. I know this is boring stuff, but read the 9/11 report...I did, they go to great length to describe the intelligence blunders during Clintons administration and the shortsided and narrow focus of the investigation into Bin Laden and his college friends, all for the most part that occupy positions of power and influence within the Saudi and Yemeni governments.
whew......

G@MeBoY · Aug 25, 2004, 12:04 AM

how come thoese hostille nations are only hostille to U.S. ? Are you folks so naive to think that "they" have choosen you randomly ?! Or do you maybe think that your goverment is acctualy doing something wrong towards "them" ? What did I do to be bombed by U.S. in former Yuogoslavia ? I was eating my dinner when bombing started, I was never in Kosovo, I am 600km (on the other end of country) away from Kosovo, bombs destroyed ALL 3 bridges in my town cutting the electricity an watter for 2 weeks (you folks get into panic for 2 minutes without electricity), and still after 5 years people that used to live only 3km from the city (because of the bridges) are now living 30km from the city without having watter all the time. Tell me, how did we, 600km from Kosovo, 10.000km from U.S. could be treat to U.S. ?! Thaks to U.S. our poor country has to give half of the budget to restore damage made by NATO (read U.S. they are NATO). I can only imagine what your goverment does to Iraq people when they are willing to sacrifise their lives just to inflict some damage to U.S. ... And Bush jr. made situation only much worse, now because of him every country that has deal with U.S. is the target, not their goverments, but inicent people walking on the street, just like you.

You need to elect the goverment that will not be lead by military influence, put some generals in el. chair and make an example of them, and then start building your economic relationship with other countries from scratch, without "immposure" (bullying). Peace to everyone ! After all what happend I can still live without hate towards American people, but I do hate your politicians and military, I hate GREED !

G@MeBoY · Aug 25, 2004, 12:10 AM

and now one more thing: If you elect Kerry, he will devastate my country even further, his administration has VERY GREEDY interests in my country, and also has Croatian nationalist which can't wait to get his hands on us. Of course, choose who you think will be the best for you, but don't forget the rest of the world ! No one whants WW3 ! British goverment is your puppy because they are alone in Europe and Europe is beggining to be sick of them

phongtruong12 · Aug 25, 2004, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by G@MeBoY

and now one more thing: If you elect Kerry, he will devastate my country even further, his administration has VERY GREEDY interests in my country, and also has Croatian nationalist which can't wait to get his hands on us. Of course, choose who you think will be the best for you, but don't forget the rest of the world ! No one whants WW3 ! British goverment is your puppy because they are alone in Europe and Europe is beggining to be sick of them

there's a leader that's capable of causing WWIII yet. if we keep pursuing terrorists in other people's countries, soon we'll have the entire Middle East attacking us. the other point that i want to point out is there will ALWAYS be terrorists no matter what day/month/year/etc. we can only do so much to protect ourselves, but i really do think that the iraq war was a little unnecessary. i think what bush wants is world peace and we're not going to get it. ok, we're coming after afghanistan, iraq, iran, cuba, and north korea at the same time. it's time we go back to isolationism where we deal with our problems at home instead of trying to fix every single thing overseas.

G@MeBoY · Aug 25, 2004, 01:26 AM

I think you are totaly right. But I fear that there are more people that dissagree with you than thoese that agree with you, and that is sad.

Falstaff · Aug 26, 2004, 07:23 AM

NEWS FLASH, someone has been pissed at us since day one....yep
America will be a target until we eliminate threats.
If Kerry is elected, I see that threat becoming more of a reality....
Bin Laden would test Kerry, and of course...he would nuke them....no doubt
so to hell with Kerry and his waffle crew...

Borealis · Aug 26, 2004, 07:45 AM

I know I'll get flamed for this, but oh well. Not like it's the first time in this thread right?

Maybe a nuke or a mini-nuke would get the message across, nothing else seems to work with terrorists, especially Bin Laden. I know it would globally be a extremely bad move for the US, but hey....he's hiding in a mountain somewhere I'm assuming. Whats the world with one less mountain...or two....or three.

Literally bury his ass!

*pretends radiation doesn't spread with the wind current*

For the record I'm not for or against kerry.

**dj_stick** · Aug 26, 2004, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dom

The EU is soft. The UN is soft. Of course everything that is not American is soft and inferior, naturally...

typical american arrogance… no wonder half the world hates you

loudeye · Aug 27, 2004, 02:51 AM

Usama Bin Laden is hiding out in a barn on Bush's Crawford ranch. I saw his beard sticking out of the woodwork during a press conference there.

Falstaff · Aug 27, 2004, 04:01 AM

that was willy gibbons of ZZ top brother....

pr0digal jenius · Aug 27, 2004, 10:12 AM

i have a question.....what is so great about bush that he's worth defending...u all TRASH kerry...but let's see why bush is so wonderful?

articulate....no......
economically sound....ha....hahahahaha
environmental....hardly
diplomatic.........strike forces aren't very diplomatic
nice guy....perhaps..but 'nice guy's finish last' seems to be the republican way

so do tell me why he's sooooo great and we shouldn't give someone else a shot

Dom · Aug 27, 2004, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fallang_jeff

The waffle is well known for describing the voting history of Senator Kerry, and his recent stand on his Vietnam war record, I had the privilege of seeing much of the interview with Kerry after the war and the subsequent debate on the Dick Cavett show. He was emotional and irrational, and did not carry much wieght then. Jane Fonda's own recollections of Kerry put him in the same league as Bush in terms of professional politicians. I am not arguing the point but in the Flaming Warzone, seems almost appropriate to sling some mud on the star of "I was a riverine force captian" starring John Kerry...bwahahahhaha

Osama has always been a priority, but he is clever and some say genius in a maniacal way. He uses his political influence and his decades old alliances with the his hill tribesman to protect him. To intervene and pursue Bin Laden forced him into a hole, where he can be monitored, his exact position we are not privelged to, but like Pablo Escobar in Columbia, we will allow him to reveal his subordinates and his terror machine and we will prosecute them too, and we have successfully too. We CAN and often do monitor Bin Laden and his henchman from a safe distance. If Pakistan would only allow us free reign in his country and Uzbekistan we could easily force the entire compliment of his immediate followers and eliminate them...But the story is bigger than that, he actually has several satellite cells that operate in concert with him, and for him, and we are weeding them out, one by one...Unfortunately he enjoys the luxury of being support by nations that we also do business with, including the Saudi government. I know this is boring stuff, but read the 9/11 report...I did, they go to great length to describe the intelligence blunders during Clintons administration and the shortsided and narrow focus of the investigation into Bin Laden and his college friends, all for the most part that occupy positions of power and influence within the Saudi and Yemeni governments.
whew......

Bush flip flops too...

Bush is against campaign finance reform; then he's for it.

Bush is against a Homeland Security Department; then he's for it.

Bush is against a 9/11 commission; then he's for it.

Bush is against an Iraq WMD investigation; then he's for it.

Bush is against nation building; then he's for it.

Bush is against deficits; then he's for them.

Bush is for free trade; then he's for tariffs on steel; then he's against them again.

Bush is against the U.S. taking a role in the Israeli Palestinian conflict; then he pushes for a "road map" and a Palestinian State.

Bush is for states right to decide on gay marriage, then he is for changing the constitution.

Bush first says he'll provide money for first responders (fire, police, emergency), then he doesn't.

Bush first says that 'help is on the way' to the military ... then he cuts benefits

Bush-"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. Bush-"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care.

Bush claims to be in favor of the environment and then secretly starts drilling on Padre Island.

Bush talks about helping education and increases mandates while cutting funding.

Bush first says the U.S. won't negotiate with North Korea. Now he will

Bush goes to Bob Jones University. Then say's he shouldn't have.

Bush said he would demand a U.N. Security Council vote on whether to sanction military action against Iraq. Later Bush announced he would not call for a vote

Bush said the "mission accomplished" banner was put up by the sailors. Bush later admits it was his advance team.

Bush was for fingerprinting and photographing Mexicans who enter the US. Bush after meeting with Pres. Fox, he's against it.

loudeye · Aug 27, 2004, 10:44 PM

Well spoken

If only the media (NBC,CBS,CNN) would publish a similar list.

G@MeBoY · Aug 28, 2004, 05:59 PM

Dont you have some sort of a 3rd party to vote for ? I mean, voting Bush or Kerry is choosing between two bad things... Whole world is at stacke here, can you undrestand that ? Your last two presidents cared and worked more on foreign affairs than your internal. Oil and military positions in the world are all they are interested in...

Borealis · Aug 28, 2004, 07:58 PM

Personally I'm voting for myself.

phongtruong12 · Aug 29, 2004, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

i have a question.....what is so great about bush that he's worth defending...u all TRASH kerry...but let's see why bush is so wonderful?

articulate....no......
economically sound....ha....hahahahaha
environmental....hardly
diplomatic.........strike forces aren't very diplomatic
nice guy....perhaps..but 'nice guy's finish last' seems to be the republican way

so do tell me why he's sooooo great and we shouldn't give someone else a shot

i agree 100% and as an independent, not republican or democrat. people should start voting on the person as a leader not whether he belongs to one party or the other. i COULD vote for ralph nader but that would be a waste of a vote. too bad we can't resurrect FDR or some other good president. clinton, despite the sexual scandal, was actually a great president.

G@MeBoY · Aug 30, 2004, 04:57 AM

Bush is a rich lamer, spamer, stupid, ignorant and self motivated with sexual fantasies...he is a rich dadies boy...nothing else, he was elected by USA underground mighty people...

ronnn · Sep 1, 2004, 08:22 AM

Being from Canada, I think Bush is driving America to ruin with his war mongering and getting mad at the rest of us who refuse to go along for the ride. I know Canadians are simpletons that know no better but somehow we do have to share this continent. So I would hope that whoever leads America will rejoin the UN and take an active part, because isolation and hatred will kill your eccononmy. The funny thing is most Canadians liked Bill Clinton who probably did most of the same stuff, but did it with style.

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Aug 24, 2004, 04:32 PM	#66
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,047 Rep Power: 206	Everyone has something to say about a president that kicked ass on two hostile nations. Everyone has something to say about a Texan Everyone has something to say about a man that may have mispoke, but carry's a big stick. Even a hopelessly misguided and mishapen bag of human excrement like "Michael Moore" __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

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Aug 24, 2004, 08:38 PM	#71
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,047 Rep Power: 206	Osama's hiding place is well known, we are presently not allowed to go after him, because the accomplices we worked with back in the 90's when we actually funded him and the pakistani government, he is not far from the Pakistani northern border. Everyone makes fun of rednecks and people from Texas, Both Kerry and Bush come from an IVY league school and belong to the same alumi club, they actually stick up for each other occasionally, and you will see more of it. If there is anyone mentally challenged, it must be those that think Bush is an embicile or incapable of fulfilling his obligation to the United States. He did precisely what an overwhelming number of Americans, republican and democrat wanted him to do, he chased the terrorists back into holes, and we are still picking them off piecemeal. The people that bitch the most probably dont vote anyway, but God they complain... Micheal Moore perverted the truth, obscured vital facts and attempted to curry favor with the Hollywood left with his movie, it wasn't even a documentary, it was by definition, entertainment and a farce. I give credibility and support to the person that stood up to the EU knowing full well they were in collusion with the SADDAM's government, and told them he would go with or without their support. The EU is soft, and bereft of credibility in the United Nations, but are quick to blame the US, and of course Pres. Bush. I am proud to be an American, and proud to have served Pres Bush, and I am proud that my brother serves in IRAQ now. I would be hesistant to endorse Kerry, and I think Kerry would too. Even democrats think Kerry is a phony, but he is all they have. At the very worst, it is the evil of two lessers....the worst being Kerry. You want people to give Kerry a break, just tell them..."leggo my eggo" and the waffle will abide.. but he will never be president... nice try Hollywood left, but we know who keeps the country running and who puts food on the table, and sends our sons and daughters to serve... it sure as hell isnt the Hollywood left....or the radical democrats.. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Aug 24, 2004, 10:08 PM	#73
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,047 Rep Power: 206	The waffle is well known for describing the voting history of Senator Kerry, and his recent stand on his Vietnam war record, I had the privilege of seeing much of the interview with Kerry after the war and the subsequent debate on the Dick Cavett show. He was emotional and irrational, and did not carry much wieght then. Jane Fonda's own recollections of Kerry put him in the same league as Bush in terms of professional politicians. I am not arguing the point but in the Flaming Warzone, seems almost appropriate to sling some mud on the star of "I was a riverine force captian" starring John Kerry...bwahahahhaha Osama has always been a priority, but he is clever and some say genius in a maniacal way. He uses his political influence and his decades old alliances with the his hill tribesman to protect him. To intervene and pursue Bin Laden forced him into a hole, where he can be monitored, his exact position we are not privelged to, but like Pablo Escobar in Columbia, we will allow him to reveal his subordinates and his terror machine and we will prosecute them too, and we have successfully too. We CAN and often do monitor Bin Laden and his henchman from a safe distance. If Pakistan would only allow us free reign in his country and Uzbekistan we could easily force the entire compliment of his immediate followers and eliminate them...But the story is bigger than that, he actually has several satellite cells that operate in concert with him, and for him, and we are weeding them out, one by one...Unfortunately he enjoys the luxury of being support by nations that we also do business with, including the Saudi government. I know this is boring stuff, but read the 9/11 report...I did, they go to great length to describe the intelligence blunders during Clintons administration and the shortsided and narrow focus of the investigation into Bin Laden and his college friends, all for the most part that occupy positions of power and influence within the Saudi and Yemeni governments. whew...... __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Aug 23, 2004, 07:47 PM	#61
Borealis DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 143 Rep Power: 0	Wow nacht, I've been fuckin pwned by you're 'oh so better than mine' info about the dow and nasdaq........... Ok hows this then about the economy, bush's war is more important to him than the economy. Of course the economy recovered after 9/11, would be pretty hard for it not to recover somewhat. Which war will be next? Iran? North Korea? Hell, China maybe? Who knows, maybe he'll do something stupid and start world war 3? I wouldn't put it out of his range. The worst thing people had to worry about when clinton was in office was what dirty things he was doing to monica lewinsky behind the doors, and kosovo. Granted 9/11 didn't happen I'll give bush that, and thats all I'll give him. Bushie Jr. had to finish what daddy couldn't, just couldn't worry about catching osama first and destroying al qaeda, had to have a war to go along with it. So many years later and he's still clueless to osama mamas whereabouts. Sad. P.S. Good points phong. Everything I thought about an hour after I posted.

Aug 24, 2004, 07:59 PM	#69
~~BMG_Cya=-~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 718 Rep Power: 0	Tell ya what any bleeding heart liberal, tree-hugging, brain dead ass who happens to be reading.. ...go to Spain where the former leader actually negotiated and did what a terror cell wanted him to do. Guess what happened to Spain. Yep...the terrorists bombed him and his country anyway. Dumbass x 10. The Muslims and especially the Extremist Muslims, (although even the most basic Koran EVERY MudDumbass reads, encourages "Jihad" or "war" and "death" on ANYONE, including the French, Germany,...everyone..puppy eyes... INCLUDING YOU. Just for the simple reason that unless you are Muslim, you are a "dog" an "infedel". Just ask the guy in Spain. That's called blind hate...also it's called RACISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These people, rough estimate of 65-75% of Arabian born, Muslims have no reasoning ability. They are not inferior. It's a CULTURAL thing going back hundreds of years. The world would be a better place if not without these people, then at least without the Muslim religion. All religions seem to be so single-minded and warped these days.

Aug 25, 2004, 12:04 AM	#74
G@MeBoY makes your mouse tremmble! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Serbia,Livingroom Posts: 247 Rep Power: 0	how come thoese hostille nations are only hostille to U.S. ? Are you folks so naive to think that "they" have choosen you randomly ?! Or do you maybe think that your goverment is acctualy doing something wrong towards "them" ? What did I do to be bombed by U.S. in former Yuogoslavia ? I was eating my dinner when bombing started, I was never in Kosovo, I am 600km (on the other end of country) away from Kosovo, bombs destroyed ALL 3 bridges in my town cutting the electricity an watter for 2 weeks (you folks get into panic for 2 minutes without electricity), and still after 5 years people that used to live only 3km from the city (because of the bridges) are now living 30km from the city without having watter all the time. Tell me, how did we, 600km from Kosovo, 10.000km from U.S. could be treat to U.S. ?! Thaks to U.S. our poor country has to give half of the budget to restore damage made by NATO (read U.S. they are NATO). I can only imagine what your goverment does to Iraq people when they are willing to sacrifise their lives just to inflict some damage to U.S. ... And Bush jr. made situation only much worse, now because of him every country that has deal with U.S. is the target, not their goverments, but inicent people walking on the street, just like you. You need to elect the goverment that will not be lead by military influence, put some generals in el. chair and make an example of them, and then start building your economic relationship with other countries from scratch, without "immposure" (bullying). Peace to everyone ! After all what happend I can still live without hate towards American people, but I do hate your politicians and military, I hate GREED ! __________________ -= G@MeBoY =- ::Full color with 3DNOW! tech:: XP2000+ thoroughbred @ 10x230FSB - watter cooled by home made sistem - EpoX RDA3I - ASUS V9950SE/Td @470/820 - 2x256 DDR400 V-Data - !Live Player - 80GB Maxtor DiamondMax9+7200rpm - Tagan TG-380 black PSU - chieftek Matrix case - WinXP SP1

Aug 25, 2004, 12:10 AM	#75
G@MeBoY makes your mouse tremmble! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Serbia,Livingroom Posts: 247 Rep Power: 0	and now one more thing: If you elect Kerry, he will devastate my country even further, his administration has VERY GREEDY interests in my country, and also has Croatian nationalist which can't wait to get his hands on us. Of course, choose who you think will be the best for you, but don't forget the rest of the world ! No one whants WW3 ! British goverment is your puppy because they are alone in Europe and Europe is beggining to be sick of them __________________ -= G@MeBoY =- ::Full color with 3DNOW! tech:: XP2000+ thoroughbred @ 10x230FSB - watter cooled by home made sistem - EpoX RDA3I - ASUS V9950SE/Td @470/820 - 2x256 DDR400 V-Data - !Live Player - 80GB Maxtor DiamondMax9+7200rpm - Tagan TG-380 black PSU - chieftek Matrix case - WinXP SP1

Aug 25, 2004, 01:26 AM	#77
G@MeBoY makes your mouse tremmble! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Serbia,Livingroom Posts: 247 Rep Power: 0	I think you are totaly right. But I fear that there are more people that dissagree with you than thoese that agree with you, and that is sad. __________________ -= G@MeBoY =- ::Full color with 3DNOW! tech:: XP2000+ thoroughbred @ 10x230FSB - watter cooled by home made sistem - EpoX RDA3I - ASUS V9950SE/Td @470/820 - 2x256 DDR400 V-Data - !Live Player - 80GB Maxtor DiamondMax9+7200rpm - Tagan TG-380 black PSU - chieftek Matrix case - WinXP SP1

Aug 26, 2004, 07:23 AM	#78
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,047 Rep Power: 206	NEWS FLASH, someone has been pissed at us since day one....yep America will be a target until we eliminate threats. If Kerry is elected, I see that threat becoming more of a reality.... Bin Laden would test Kerry, and of course...he would nuke them....no doubt so to hell with Kerry and his waffle crew... __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Aug 26, 2004, 07:45 AM	#79
Borealis DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 143 Rep Power: 0	I know I'll get flamed for this, but oh well. Not like it's the first time in this thread right? Maybe a nuke or a mini-nuke would get the message across, nothing else seems to work with terrorists, especially Bin Laden. I know it would globally be a extremely bad move for the US, but hey....he's hiding in a mountain somewhere I'm assuming. Whats the world with one less mountain...or two....or three. Literally bury his ass! pretends radiation doesn't spread with the wind current For the record I'm not for or against kerry.

Aug 27, 2004, 02:51 AM	#81
loudeye DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 91 Rep Power: 0	Usama Bin Laden is hiding out in a barn on Bush's Crawford ranch. I saw his beard sticking out of the woodwork during a press conference there.

Aug 27, 2004, 04:01 AM	#82
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,047 Rep Power: 206	that was willy gibbons of ZZ top brother.... __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Aug 27, 2004, 10:12 AM	#83
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	i have a question.....what is so great about bush that he's worth defending...u all TRASH kerry...but let's see why bush is so wonderful? articulate....no...... economically sound....ha....hahahahaha environmental....hardly diplomatic.........strike forces aren't very diplomatic nice guy....perhaps..but 'nice guy's finish last' seems to be the republican way so do tell me why he's sooooo great and we shouldn't give someone else a shot

Aug 27, 2004, 10:44 PM	#85
loudeye DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 91 Rep Power: 0	Well spoken If only the media (NBC,CBS,CNN) would publish a similar list.

Aug 28, 2004, 05:59 PM	#86
G@MeBoY makes your mouse tremmble! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Serbia,Livingroom Posts: 247 Rep Power: 0	Dont you have some sort of a 3rd party to vote for ? I mean, voting Bush or Kerry is choosing between two bad things... Whole world is at stacke here, can you undrestand that ? Your last two presidents cared and worked more on foreign affairs than your internal. Oil and military positions in the world are all they are interested in... __________________ -= G@MeBoY =- ::Full color with 3DNOW! tech:: XP2000+ thoroughbred @ 10x230FSB - watter cooled by home made sistem - EpoX RDA3I - ASUS V9950SE/Td @470/820 - 2x256 DDR400 V-Data - !Live Player - 80GB Maxtor DiamondMax9+7200rpm - Tagan TG-380 black PSU - chieftek Matrix case - WinXP SP1

Aug 28, 2004, 07:58 PM	#87
Borealis DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 143 Rep Power: 0	Personally I'm voting for myself.

Aug 30, 2004, 04:57 AM	#89
G@MeBoY makes your mouse tremmble! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Serbia,Livingroom Posts: 247 Rep Power: 0	Bush is a rich lamer, spamer, stupid, ignorant and self motivated with sexual fantasies...he is a rich dadies boy...nothing else, he was elected by USA underground mighty people... __________________ -= G@MeBoY =- ::Full color with 3DNOW! tech:: XP2000+ thoroughbred @ 10x230FSB - watter cooled by home made sistem - EpoX RDA3I - ASUS V9950SE/Td @470/820 - 2x256 DDR400 V-Data - !Live Player - 80GB Maxtor DiamondMax9+7200rpm - Tagan TG-380 black PSU - chieftek Matrix case - WinXP SP1

Sep 1, 2004, 08:22 AM	#90
ronnn DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 617 Rep Power: 0	Being from Canada, I think Bush is driving America to ruin with his war mongering and getting mad at the rest of us who refuse to go along for the ride. I know Canadians are simpletons that know no better but somehow we do have to share this continent. So I would hope that whoever leads America will rejoin the UN and take an active part, because isolation and hatred will kill your eccononmy. The funny thing is most Canadians liked Bill Clinton who probably did most of the same stuff, but did it with style.