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Old Aug 28, 2004, 07:10 PM   #1
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Pissed Why are some people so ignorant to certain types of music?

This is something that has baffled me for quite a long time. I am black(not American, cuz i am originally from Trinidad and Tobago) but i listen to almost any kind of music, cuz that's all it is to me, MUSIC!!! I enjoy it a lot and i like to try different kinds of music from time to time. Anyways, lately i've been listening to a lot of rock and occasionally i have carried a few of my cd's to work and on some occasions some of the other black workers wanted to see what i was listening to. But on almost all occasions they all had something stupid, negative and ignorant to say about the music i listen to. Like one time i was playing Deftones - White Pony and a guy wanted to listen to it and said, "WTF is this shit that u're listening to?" or one time i was listening to some System Of A Down - Toxicity and 2 clowns called it satanic music and it was the 1st track of the cd - Prison Song. How the fuck is that satanic music??? Even yesterday i had Slipknot's debut cd and their latest: Vol. 3: The Subliminal Verses and in earlier in the day one guy said that it had subliminal messages in it and then at the end of the nite my supervisior happened to ask me to see my headphones cuz he wanted to check them out and i happened to be playing their debut album and his reaction was the same as the other clowns, "WTF are u listening to?". Honestly i think people should shut the fuck up with their opinions sometimes. Most of them listen to rap, which i think most of it is crap, but i don't go shouting that everytime i hear them singing a song or playing a cd in their cars. I don't let it bother me, but yet all of these clowns have something fucking stupid to say about me listening to rock. One even called it, "White people's music" WTF??? And rap, r&b, hip/hop is "Black people's music"??? All Dumbasses imo... To me music is music, it's just there's different kinds of music. What do u guys think about these idiots and others like them who r soo muscially ignorant and stupid?

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One question. WHO invented Rock & Roll? The thing I find the funniest is how music seems to influence how people behave & dress too. I listen to almost everything, though I do have my favorites. However, I don't favor rap but I do like Jay-Z. The reason I like him so much is his music is just different. Besides these folks don't have a clue what Satanic music is....let them listen to some Deicide. Now that is satanic!!!
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nice question u asked, necrosis. i do believe it was black people that invented it. i remember seeing someone (i think it was VH1) interviewing Lenny Kravitz and asked him a similar ? about black peoples' opinion of him playing rock music. Don't really remember his response to this, but i did remember him saying that is was black people who invented rock & roll in the 1st place. It's just fucking stupid that people label certain types of music to certain races. Fucking idiots!!!!
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i totally agree with you. people are retarded musically speaking usually. when i tell people i listen to dance music they're like "ohhh, techno" i'm like "no, i hate techno"... they don't get it. i hate anything progressive, and things without words drive me nuts. i don't have the attention span to listen to the same shit for 20 minutes, but they all make fun of music i listen to because it all "sounds the same" -- no, dance music doesn't. i can see where they would think that from some shitty techno songs, but honestly that's just retarded. making a claim such as this is as crazy as making the claim "all rock music sounds the same".

oh well, that's just life i guess. a lot of people think music is satanic when it really isn't... and a lot of people enjoy songs that say things they are very much against. perfect example is my mom. she listens to rock and contemporary christian music. she is pretty strong in her christian beliefs... and she gets mad when i listen to some things like the offspring when he spazes out and says "you stupid dumbshit goddamn motherfucker" -- yet she enjoys the song judith by a perfect circle. little does she know in this song he is singing "so fuck your god, your lord, your christ, even though he did this to you". correct me if i'm wrong, but i'd say that the second one is a bit more offensive religiously speaking.

heh, seems there's nothing you can do about it. people are dumb. for some reason i am seemingly held to a standard of "having" to listen to just rock/punk because of the style of person i am, when i listen to dance music a lot of my friends shun me for it. it really makes no sense =\.
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Another thing that drives me completely up the wall is people assuming that just because i am from the Caribbean i like reggae artists like Sean Paul and Wayne Wonder and all those other "pop" reggae artists. Those guys sing crap. Plain and Simple. If they want to hear some GOOD reggae, then they should listen to some Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Gregory Issacs and some of the other older artists. Or perhaps some Sizzla, Anthony B, Capleton and other newer artists. Now those guys sing reggae. None of this pop shit that some of the others r singing. I even carried some of their cd's for a friend of mine who listens to Sean Paul. She says she loves him and he is great. He is shit imo... Anyways, i played some Sizzla for her one time and asked her what did she think and she said that he was ok, but she heard that he sings a lot of christian reggae. Chrsitian reggae? anybody who knows Sizzla will know he doesn't sing christian reggae. He is one of the most controversial reggae artists out there now. Hell even later that day, she asked me if i knew a particular song and i told her no and she said that she didn't think that i would have because i don't listen to that "Sean Paul kind of music." Sean Paul has a "kind" of music? Since fucking when?? He is SHIT compared to others past and present. Not even the great legend Bob Marley has a kind of music named after him. Honestly, do people think sometimes before they speak???

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most of the music i listen to is hard-trance, people just call it "techno" which is wrong, or "doof-doof" coz of the bass-line, whereas most of the time when the song is at its peak the bass is second to the leads…
but as for modern RnB… i believe its gone down the shitter completely… ever since the US banned "raves" every second person has been jumping on the RnB bandwagon… i was watching MTV yesterday to see some guy "jin" rapping with absolutely no talent at all (and no i'm not racist)… not to mention 50 cent, and all the other talent-less new-pop artists
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i hate how r&b can be two different things...the hip hop type and the blues type...that angers me
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I hate the fact that pop music is so popular. It seems that some ppl just don't appreciate creativity anymore. I could write half the bullshit that is on the popular radio now; just one catchy line will sell you it seems. Plus the fact that some 'artists' don't even write their music. Where's the effort? the creativity? Give me zep, deep purple, tool, (older) metallica, tom petty, jethro tull; fuck the britney/nickelback era.

And you're right Drakon, how is sean pos paul even close to bob marley or peter tosh...please.
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Wordless music is great for me. Rap backbeats, techno (computer game techno), and fast instrumental/classical. Lyrics (especially the nonsensical crap coming from rap/hip-hop) just get stuck in my head and piss me off. Can't concentrate. Others like Bob Marley aren't quite so bad, although I'd still like it better without lyrics.
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You wonder why people are ignorant to all ya'lls music? It's because it SUCKS. Trance isn't music, it's a fucking reason to get high. System of a Down and Slipknot just plain suck. And dance music is utterly worthless noise that any punk can make.

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We have a local genius here! Popular music is...so popular? But what? I don't get it! Damn! I hate how something popular is...popular...because...uh...that sucks!

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Interesting...all bands that were popular in their time and sold millions of records based off a few catchy songs played on the radio!

Shut the fuck up, one man's pop music is another person's Led Zeppelin.

Don't get me wrong, I hate most of what's played on the radio nowadays, but in 10-20 years it's going to be a "classic" that'll air at my reunions, so I might as well get used to it.

But what you guys listen to is still shit.
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You wonder why people are ignorant to all ya'lls music? It's because it SUCKS. Trance isn't music, it's a fucking reason to get high. System of a Down and Slipknot just plain suck. And dance music is utterly worthless noise that any punk can make.


We have a local genius here! Popular music is...so popular? But what? I don't get it! Damn! I hate how something popular is...popular...because...uh...that sucks!


Interesting...all bands that were popular in their time and sold millions of records based off a few catchy songs played on the radio!

Shut the fuck up, one man's pop music is another person's Led Zeppelin.

Don't get me wrong, I hate most of what's played on the radio nowadays, but in 10-20 years it's going to be a "classic" that'll air at my reunions, so I might as well get used to it.

But what you guys listen to is still shit.
Haha, that was quite funny. everybody has his/her own taste in music. what i find is pretty stupid and ignorant is someone making fun of the music i listen to. U find SOAD and Slipknot suck, who fucking cares? I am sure someone will find the bands that u listen to suck also. but does that mean that they should make fun of the music u choose to listen to or u make fun of the music they listen to? i think not...

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I wont listen to any music that has profanity in it, I love rock and roll, but when I heard the Black Label bands live CD I took it back, Zakk Wylde uses the Mutha F*&a word over and over and he sounds like an idiot, he'd get his ass kicked around here for sure..
And the inner city rap music is absolute crap. Profanity and filth to make money off of ignorant people, and it disgusts me when I hear it right next to me. It is disruptive and inciteful, and fuels the irreverant youth and adults of our nation. As surely as there was Cain and Able, there is right and wrong, and good music and bad music, I choose not listen to it, but it was created to make money, and nothing more. I dont accept the analogy that it is poetry. It has evolved into the new form of rascism and exascerbates the growing tensions between people of color and the white community. When I hear rap music next to me on the street in my car, I roll the window up and attempt no to hear the profanity, but like grafitti, its out there, polluting our enviornment. Bill Cosby was right, nothing perpetuates the stereotype and the stupidity better than those that use music and the media to promote this crap.
Rock as we know it is dead.
The Blues lives on.
What kids today call Punk is not Punk...
Classical endures...
Country has evolved but it is too popular
Rap is dead....( its the same old crap over and over)
Hip Hop is evolving..it just has to get better....
Pop....is well, pop..the flavor of the week..
Music today is ready for a revolution.....
we all wanted disco to die..and it did..but the embers still burn
time for a new form of music..tired of the old labels...
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What kids today call Punk is not Punk...
Thats a total shit ass comment. What the fuck, what i call punk is punk. The casualties ever hear them, way back from late 80s and actually got signed in 1990 from NYC. Still the thrashy grunge punk music thats the same now as it was back then. Not many real punk bands anymore. Anything like simple plan or good charlotte thats not punk thats POP. In a way your right, but still there are some people still true to the punk spirit.

Now the 1 thing that pisses me off more than anything are these politcal bands like NOFX, they go out preaching anti bush in their shows. Yeah FUCK YOU NOFX. They just use the kids that like them as a ploy to get rid of bush, its total shit man, they call themselves punk thats not punk.

some mellow 'punk' could be alkaline trio as they aren't pop the lyrics are deap and mean something.

Lick my balls any1 who hates my ignorant true punk music. sorry i dont like your whiney voice bitch fucks. now go guzzle some cum fairy fuckers
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tbh, most people have never even heard the music i listen to... if you've ever played dance dance revolution though, it's that music. and, i have been listening to it *long* before i started playing DDR (actually started playing DDR cuz of the music), so don't think i'm one of those guys who started listening to it because i am so obsessed with DDR. i do have my own dance pad, but i can't even dance in maniac yet; i think i'm just too fat or something.
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Thats a total shit ass comment. What the fuck, what i call punk is punk.
Bwahaahahahhaha.....I remember punk, and the crap they call punk today is totally lame crap, like Greenday or other bands, no angst anymore, just socially conciousness and songs about wankers and love lost. What ever happened to the Sex Pistols? Where is the energy? The Ramones...no way does that crappy music today even come close to what people call Punk.
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I don't see why either of you are arguing, all punk is all derivitive bullshit with crappy production. How anyone could like drunk sounding, a-tonal singers and mushy sounding fuzz (guitars) is beyond me. Maybe I'm just not "punk" enough.

I don't care what any of you like, if I don't like it, it's crap - AND you blow. There.
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Bwahaahahahhaha.....I remember punk, and the crap they call punk today is totally lame crap, like Greenday or other bands, no angst anymore, just socially conciousness and songs about wankers and love lost. What ever happened to the Sex Pistols? Where is the energy? The Ramones...no way does that crappy music today even come close to what people call Punk.
notice how i didnt mention those whiney voice bitches? haha

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dont call him an anal whore...
you have no idea how interesting that makes it for him...bwahahahahhaha
dont bend over gutterpunk...reno is on the loose...
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i dotn know why you would consider angst filled music good....it has no point, just like whiny teenagers haha
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anal raiders and butt pirates man....be careful, no bending over and avoid inticing Reno...you dont know where his tentacles have been...lol.
whiny teenage music is different than angst filled music...much different.
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you name it...i listen to it and respect it for what skill is involved in making it.

EXCEPT for the screaming punk/death metal crap

but yes, I listen to EVERYTHING(to name a few)

Big & Rich, Tim McGraw, Lonestar, Garth Brooks, etc(Country)
Metallica, Slayer, Iron Maiden, Led Zeppelin, Anthrax, Pantera, etc(Old Metal)
Iced Earth, Norther, Thrice, Lollpop Lust Kill, Dope, etc(New Metal)
Pink Floyd, Radiohead, etc (Chillout 'Head' Music)
DMX, OutKast, Ying Yang Twins, Busta Rhymes, etc(Rap)
Greenday, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit(Pop, of sorts)
Yellowcard, Story of The Year, Pennywise etc(The 'punk' that gutterpunk hates )
DJ Tiesto, Oakenfold, PvD, DJ Icey, etc(Techno/Trance)
Clint Mansell, Howard Shore, Edward Shearmur, Danny Elfman, etc(Orchestral)
Joe Satriani, Eric Clapton, The Eagles, The Beatles, etc(The Requirements of all music collections, lol)


and lots else I don't exactly know how to classify, like Eve 6, The Cranberries, Skyfire, etc
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hahahaha prodigal actually pennywise is old school, some good music came out of them, as of story of the year. I liked them before they were popular then the music went to crap. yellowcard sux live and too poppy formy sorts.

eve6 is like alternative dude. they are a pretty sweet band saw em live like 4 years ago. Alternative is cool like dashboard confessional, jack johnson, tom petty... its some great music to sit back and relax on those hard days that you dont need a push from my screaming punk or hardcore music \m/
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jack johnson is also in my collection...haha

and yes i knwo yellowcard sux bad live...but lots of bands do(like New Found Glory is the worst live band I have yet seen)
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CANT STAND THIS POP STAR, can you all guess her name...ugggghhh
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with a filename liek that you make it ever so difficult

and her music is ok...not my favorite....she sucks the big one live though
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HaHa NFG lol funny stuff they sucked so bad like 3 years ago... they sounded better this year but i still walked away
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and her music is ok...not my favorite....she sucks the big one live though
BOO AVRIL shes ugly, and smells funny

I think her music sux and shes a giant loser poseur girl who wants to be like britney but cant handle the fact that shell never be that good looking and her music is lame and yeah SHE SUCKS
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