RIV@NVX the hypocrite!

reno · Oct 15, 2002, 11:41 PM

Because I don't like this retard, and because he advocates "only using products from the second company because it is common knowledge they are the better product" (which I find insulting to croats, because they are a first rate country! heh) I decided to pick apart his system and call him on his hypocrasy. Below are the parts of his PC that are from "first companies" which must really be jarring to his sense of purpose.

1) Thermaltake Volcano 7+: From arguably the best mainstream HSF maker
2) Samsung PC2100 ram: The top supplier for all high quality, fast ram.
3) Samsung SM959NF monitor: One of the top selling Monitor/Tube brands
4) Creative Labs Audigy: Top dog in the soundcard market for years
5) Creative Labs Inspire 5300: The most mainstream, mass produced 5.1 setup you will ever find (and the crappiest in quality)
6)Hauppauge WinTV-PCI: The best selling ("first") TV card, much crappier than the Leadtek XP2000 (which I have, and is the "second" card)
7) ASUSCOM ISDN card: ASUS...ISDN over 56k...need I say more?
8) Western Digital WD400BB: The "first" best-selling hard-drive producer.
9) Promise MBUltra133 Controller: Promise is the "first" company for add-on HD controllers...plus ATA133 ("first" over ATA100)...what? ATA100 not good enough for your ATA100/66/33 Hard drive?

And my personal favorite from all the stuff he puts into his computer from "first" companies....MICROSOFT XP! But not only that...the more expensive Corporate Edition (that he most likely Warezed)!

Congratulations RIv@NVX, you are a complete Jackass! And a Croat!

e-Seeker · Oct 16, 2002, 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by reno
..cut.. Congratulations RIv@NVX, you are a complete Jackass! And a Croat!

Look, I don't really care what you've got to say 'bout Riv@ (I can't allow myself that), but please leave comments 'bout our nation to yourself, oK?

Smoothdrive · Oct 16, 2002, 07:54 AM

Well..he did say it is a first rate country

I find the fact that you don't care about your fellow countryman more damaging to the rep of Croatia

e-Seeker · Oct 16, 2002, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smoothdrive
Well..he did say it is a first rate country

I find the fact that you don't care about your fellow countryman more damaging to the rep of Croatia

I've got a lot more to care about, myself for instance... It depends on how you define 'care'..

Smoothdrive · Oct 16, 2002, 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by dEykeÃ©
I've got a lot more to care about, myself for instance... It depends on how you define 'care'..

I rest my case..a country is very poor if the people only care for themselves..

e-Seeker · Oct 16, 2002, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smoothdrive
I rest my case..a country is very poor if the people only care for themselves..

It's easy to think like that if you don't have a whole bunch of your own existential problems! Since you don't know me, I'll let you in on somethin: I usually care more 'bout others than myself, that's why I get into these problems, and I think now's the time to think a bit 'bout myself... This should be my closing argument!...
Like I've said, I don't care about Riv@ in a sense that this thread's between him and Reno, get the point?

EOD.

Vampyromaniac · Oct 16, 2002, 09:19 AM

reno, you should make a poem

RIV@NVX · Oct 16, 2002, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reno
Because I don't like this retard, and because he advocates "only using products from the second company because it is common knowledge they are the better product" (which I find insulting to croats, because they are a first rate country! heh) I decided to pick apart his system and call him on his hypocrasy. Below are the parts of his PC that are from "first companies" which must really be jarring to his sense of purpose.

1) Thermaltake Volcano 7+: From arguably the best mainstream HSF maker
2) Samsung PC2100 ram: The top supplier for all high quality, fast ram.
3) Samsung SM959NF monitor: One of the top selling Monitor/Tube brands
4) Creative Labs Audigy: Top dog in the soundcard market for years
5) Creative Labs Inspire 5300: The most mainstream, mass produced 5.1 setup you will ever find (and the crappiest in quality)
6)Hauppauge WinTV-PCI: The best selling ("first") TV card, much crappier than the Leadtek XP2000 (which I have, and is the "second" card)
7) ASUSCOM ISDN card: ASUS...ISDN over 56k...need I say more?
8) Western Digital WD400BB: The "first" best-selling hard-drive producer.
9) Promise MBUltra133 Controller: Promise is the "first" company for add-on HD controllers...plus ATA133 ("first" over ATA100)...what? ATA100 not good enough for your ATA100/66/33 Hard drive?

And my personal favorite from all the stuff he puts into his computer from "first" companies....MICROSOFT XP! But not only that...the more expensive Corporate Edition (that he most likely Warezed)!

Congratulations RIv@NVX, you are a complete Jackass! And a Croat!

OK, reno the son of a bitch whose mom can pay him expensive hardware.

Hauppauge is what I bought a long ago... when it started to be produced. Leadtek is really good card (one of things you chosen right), and it is new.
Samsung SM959NF monitor: the best 19" you can get in CRO
Samsung PC2100 ram: only one I could get when I bought it.
ASUSCOM ISDN card: you can't have ADSL for normal price in CRO, cable at all
Western Digital WD400BB: sorry, when I bought it there was no 8MB drives
Audigy:
Me: "Hy, I want to buy good soundcard."
Shop: "Creative Labs Audigy."
Me: "Do you have anything else?"
Shop: "Live!, PCI 128..."
5300: I could go for TerraTec's ones, but I took Creative's ones because they are good (and not produced by Creative).
Promise and HighPoint are two best companies.
Thermaltake Volcano 7+: Best HSF you can get in CRO, Rijeka (Alpha 8045 in ZG, but I don't live there and I don't give 65$ for HSF)

Nice situation, isn't it?

[SIZE=xx-large]I buy what I have money for... AND SECOND COMPANIES HAVE BETTER VALUE FOR MONEY.[/SIZE]

Do you understand?

Leave comments to my nation to yourself.

Po nashki:
[SIZE=xx-large]Odjebi, kretenchino.[/SIZE]

It seems that history repeats - Billy and dEykee, now RIV@NVX vs reno...

RIV@NVX · Oct 16, 2002, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smoothdrive
I rest my case..a country is very poor if the people only care for themselves..

If you don't have money, you can't care for anyone.

And imagine a city with 250000 inhabitants with 27 schoolarships. My city. Sorry kids, your country can't pay you because you worked hard for your marks. Sorry, we have too much good students.

UberLord · Oct 16, 2002, 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by RIV@NVX
[SIZE=xx-large]I buy what I have money for... AND SECOND COMPANIES HAVE BETTER VALUE FOR MONEY.[/SIZE]

Not really

They are just cheaper - not always "value for money" as to save on cost the build quality is lower. You may call that "value for money" whereas others would call it "buying junk".

e-Seeker · Oct 16, 2002, 10:39 AM

Some things are def. getting out of hand! ppl...CHILL!

Vampyromaniac · Oct 16, 2002, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RIV@NVX
Odjebi, kretenchino.

LOL, it took me forever to find a translation

UberLord · Oct 16, 2002, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dEykeÃ©
Some things are def. getting out of hand! ppl...CHILL!

This is the flame warzone.

If you can't handle the heat then, to quote a band, "Get the Funk Out"

RIV@NVX · Oct 16, 2002, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UberLord
Not really

They are just cheaper - not always "value for money" as to save on cost the build quality is lower. You may call that "value for money" whereas others would call it "buying junk".

Well, PowerVR Network admin, if you don't like it, you don't have to...
My next choice would be still KT4 Ultra-FISR - XP 2600+ - DDR400 (whatever MSI certified) - ATI 9700 PRO.
And if you say that these parts don't have good value for money, buy Intel/NV whatever...
2600+ and 2400+ are soooooo good to overclock (THG's review).

I am not telling to buy Cyrix / Transmeta / Whatever outdated.
My theory was - from two companies who concurent to each other I buy second one.

I VOTE for second one, not force you to think same way.

UberLord · Oct 16, 2002, 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by RIV@NVX
Well, PowerVR Network owner

Thats "Administrator". I don't own anything on that site - that belongs to Rik, not me.

Quote:

, if you don't like it, you don't have to...
My next choice would be still KT4 Ultra-FISR - XP 2600+ - DDR400 (whatever MSI certified) - ATI 9700 PRO.

Fine, thats your choice.
So my choice of ASUS PT533-C, Intel P4 2.53, x2 256meg Corsair XMS RIMM 1066 and a Matrox Parhelia wouldn't go down well as they're all first companies?

ASUS are the leading mobo maker atm
Intel are deffo the leading CPU maker
Corsair make the "overclockers" memory with the XMS range
Matrox make the best cards for IQ

But .... wait.

PC Chips are the worlds largest mobo maker
Intel, well ok they are the top chip maker
Samsung are the worlds largest memory maker (I think)
nVidia are the worlds largest GPU maker.

Heck I'm confusued. Can they all be first companies?????

RIV@NVX · Oct 16, 2002, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UberLord
Thats "Administrator". I don't own anything on that site - that belongs to Rik, not me.

Fine, thats your choice.
So my choice of ASUS PT533-C, Intel P4 2.53, x2 256meg Corsair XMS RIMM 1066 and a Matrox Parhelia wouldn't go down well as they're all first companies?

ASUS are the leading mobo maker atm
Intel are deffo the leading CPU maker
Corsair make the "overclockers" memory with the XMS range
Matrox make the best cards for IQ

But .... wait.

PC Chips are the worlds largest mobo maker
Intel, well ok they are the top chip maker
Samsung are the worlds largest memory maker (I think)
nVidia are the worlds largest GPU maker.

Heck I'm confusued. Can they all be first companies?????

OK, I changed that, you are an admin.

I respect your choice, but can you compare prices of mine and yours?
And preformerance?

BEST COMPANY = best company with best products (which have price) = Matrox (because of IQ and 2D, 3D isn't bad, but all that is too expensive)
FIRST COMPANY = world's largest company - NVIDIA.
SECOND COMPANY = company that isn't first, but wants to be - ATI (they have better and better drivers, care about customers (ex. 6193 release)).

So, for someone who doesn't have money like Bill Gates, second companies are better choice.
Or whatever is available.

UberLord · Oct 16, 2002, 11:49 AM

So basically, everyone in the GPU business apart from nVidia is a second company because they aren't the largest? Geeee - I guess that 3D Labs aren't the first company for professional workstation 3D graphics cards then

RIV@NVX · Oct 16, 2002, 12:36 PM

We are not talking about professional 3D here, we are talking about gaming 3d.

e-Seeker · Oct 16, 2002, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UberLord
This is the flame warzone.

If you can't handle the heat then, to quote a band, "Get the Funk Out"

LOL, it's not that... I just don't think it's oK to call someone a son of a bitch, or a retard for that fact...

*browses somewhere else*

merry · Oct 16, 2002, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
LOL, it took me forever to find a translation

Why? Just throw odjebni into googol, you'll find this guy who maintains an expression dictionary, anything to croatian (or serbian). Search for the word on this page... bingo, equates greek gamisou. Like in polygamy, where poly is 'many' (polygone etc.).

So, odjebni=marriage - or love, or something.

kretenchino... slavian tongues have the vocative, that explains the final 'o'. The suffix -chin should be a diminutive or augmentative. Anoushka, Matrioshka, vodka - diminutives are in 'k' (and vodka means 'soft water'). Kreten must com from Crete - Cretan.

So:

Love you, you big Cretan!

See, that wasn't that hard

Now, what's his problem with Cretans...

e-Seeker · Oct 16, 2002, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by merry
Why? Just throw odjebni into googol, you'll find this guy who maintains an expression dictionary, anything to croatian (or serbian). Search for the word on this page... bingo, equates greek gamisou. Like in polygamy, where poly is 'many' (polygone etc.).

So, odjebni=marriage - or love, or something.

kretenchino... slavian tongues have the vocative, that explains the final 'o'. The suffix -chin should be a diminutive or augmentative. Anoushka, Matrioshka, vodka - diminutives are in 'k' (and vodka means 'soft water'). Kreten must com from Crete - Cretan.

So:

Love you, you big Cretan!

See, that wasn't that hard

Now, what's his problem with Cretans...

LMAO! Actually, 'odjebi kretenchino' means: Fu** off, moron! (a very plain translation)

Smoothdrive · Oct 16, 2002, 02:23 PM

Don't go to Croatia on holiday Merry..you might get in to trouble trying to be friendly

e-Seeker · Oct 16, 2002, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smoothdrive
Don't go to Croatia on holiday Merry..you might get in to trouble trying to be friendly

LOL!

Holidays are days as bad as every other! We're better off without 'friendly' strangers, trust me..

Nah, who am I kiddin'... you're welcome to visit, just keep your

as discreet as possible, we don't like those...

reno · Oct 16, 2002, 03:48 PM

Alle Kroaten sind gefichte schwochtel, findet ihr ein arsch zu picken, schwully.

Sorry, a little german street talk. Anyway, for RIV@NVX's information all money I spend, I earn. Translation for you dimwitted Croats? I buy my own shite. I chose to spend that 2100+ bucks this system ended up costing me on GOOD quality product, not "second" company only product. I don't limit myself to either camp, like a dumb Croat would. Why don't you go and peddle some trinkets to tourists like the rest of your filthy countrymen? Then you could afford that shiny new 8mb cache western digital drive, and even better...the 5700 version of the Creative Inspires! Or does your mommy only buy YOU "second" company wares because she's trying to spark your sputtering economy into existence? She'd be better off selling herself to a turk.

You are dumb, and if Croatia is any kind of country, dEykee would disown you as a member of his race. Retard.

I'd write a poem, but I'm feeling more in the "racist bastard" mood today. Come to think of it, I have a Klan rally in an hour!

[SIZE=x-small]I really hope you guys have a dark sense of humor, or else some mod is going to ban me...hehe[/SIZE]

Ryoko · Oct 16, 2002, 05:42 PM

we've been through this before... don't make posts like that reno.

Vampyromaniac · Oct 16, 2002, 09:15 PM

reno · Oct 16, 2002, 11:57 PM

Yeah, didn't think anyone else would think it's funny. Anyway, I'll rephrase my flame in a non-racist way.

You neutrally intelligent, non-racial, person from the world! Neutral action to you!

e-Seeker · Oct 17, 2002, 06:52 AM

That German street talk would only fit a German cuz I really don't know which European country has more gays than they do...

Reno, I don't think it would be wise from my side to comment your posts...

Smoothdrive · Oct 17, 2002, 08:20 AM

C'mon guys..Reno was just kiddin'

By the way Reno, the Clan just called..they asked if it was your white hat they found, evryone else seems to have his hat..

Beeing European i'm allowed to make these jokes

Seriously, i have no clue about Croatia, all i know is that it is some balkan country wich is in deep shit ever since the ussr fell apart..

I'ld welcome tourists if i were you..they bring in the money.

e-Seeker · Oct 17, 2002, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smoothdrive
C'mon guys..Reno was just kiddin'

By the way Reno, the Clan just called..they asked if it was your white hat they found, evryone else seems to have his hat..

Beeing European i'm allowed to make these jokes

Seriously, i have no clue about Croatia, all i know is that it is some balkan country wich is in deep shit ever since the ussr fell apart..

I'ld welcome tourists if i were you..they bring in the money.

USSR?!?! ARE YOU INSANE?! What do we have to do with USSR?

FYI, we're in deep shit ever since the war ended... (with the Serbs).. Americans should remember Serbs, you've bombed them a few years back, and a good job you did!

No really, we have a vast culture and a looooong past...

Oct 15, 2002, 11:41 PM	#1
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	RIV@NVX the hypocrite! Because I don't like this retard, and because he advocates "only using products from the second company because it is common knowledge they are the better product" (which I find insulting to croats, because they are a first rate country! heh) I decided to pick apart his system and call him on his hypocrasy. Below are the parts of his PC that are from "first companies" which must really be jarring to his sense of purpose. 1) Thermaltake Volcano 7+: From arguably the best mainstream HSF maker 2) Samsung PC2100 ram: The top supplier for all high quality, fast ram. 3) Samsung SM959NF monitor: One of the top selling Monitor/Tube brands 4) Creative Labs Audigy: Top dog in the soundcard market for years 5) Creative Labs Inspire 5300: The most mainstream, mass produced 5.1 setup you will ever find (and the crappiest in quality) 6)Hauppauge WinTV-PCI: The best selling ("first") TV card, much crappier than the Leadtek XP2000 (which I have, and is the "second" card) 7) ASUSCOM ISDN card: ASUS...ISDN over 56k...need I say more? 8) Western Digital WD400BB: The "first" best-selling hard-drive producer. 9) Promise MBUltra133 Controller: Promise is the "first" company for add-on HD controllers...plus ATA133 ("first" over ATA100)...what? ATA100 not good enough for your ATA100/66/33 Hard drive? And my personal favorite from all the stuff he puts into his computer from "first" companies....MICROSOFT XP! But not only that...the more expensive Corporate Edition (that he most likely Warezed)! Congratulations RIv@NVX, you are a complete Jackass! And a Croat!

Oct 16, 2002, 07:54 AM	#3
Smoothdrive Foolish Genius Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 455 Rep Power: 0	Well..he did say it is a first rate country I find the fact that you don't care about your fellow countryman more damaging to the rep of Croatia __________________ GA-7VRXP, AMD2000+, 256MB PC-2700 DDR, Radeon 8500LE, 2x Maxtor 740 (40GB) stripe set, AGNeovo X-150.

Oct 16, 2002, 09:19 AM	#7
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UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	So basically, everyone in the GPU business apart from nVidia is a second company because they aren't the largest? Geeee - I guess that 3D Labs aren't the first company for professional workstation 3D graphics cards then __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Oct 16, 2002, 12:36 PM	#18
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Oct 16, 2002, 02:23 PM	#22
Smoothdrive Foolish Genius Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 455 Rep Power: 0	Don't go to Croatia on holiday Merry..you might get in to trouble trying to be friendly __________________ GA-7VRXP, AMD2000+, 256MB PC-2700 DDR, Radeon 8500LE, 2x Maxtor 740 (40GB) stripe set, AGNeovo X-150.

Oct 16, 2002, 03:48 PM	Thread Starter #24
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	cvsa Alle Kroaten sind gefichte schwochtel, findet ihr ein arsch zu picken, schwully. Sorry, a little german street talk. Anyway, for RIV@NVX's information all money I spend, I earn. Translation for you dimwitted Croats? I buy my own shite. I chose to spend that 2100+ bucks this system ended up costing me on GOOD quality product, not "second" company only product. I don't limit myself to either camp, like a dumb Croat would. Why don't you go and peddle some trinkets to tourists like the rest of your filthy countrymen? Then you could afford that shiny new 8mb cache western digital drive, and even better...the 5700 version of the Creative Inspires! Or does your mommy only buy YOU "second" company wares because she's trying to spark your sputtering economy into existence? She'd be better off selling herself to a turk. You are dumb, and if Croatia is any kind of country, dEykee would disown you as a member of his race. Retard. I'd write a poem, but I'm feeling more in the "racist bastard" mood today. Come to think of it, I have a Klan rally in an hour! [SIZE=x-small]I really hope you guys have a dark sense of humor, or else some mod is going to ban me...hehe[/SIZE]

Oct 16, 2002, 05:42 PM	#25
Ryoko American Soldier Join Date: May 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,725 Rep Power: 0	we've been through this before... don't make posts like that reno.

Oct 16, 2002, 09:15 PM	#26
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Oct 16, 2002, 11:57 PM	Thread Starter #27
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	sdgfh Yeah, didn't think anyone else would think it's funny. Anyway, I'll rephrase my flame in a non-racist way. You neutrally intelligent, non-racial, person from the world! Neutral action to you!

Oct 17, 2002, 06:52 AM	#28
e-Seeker AKA e-Seeker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Zagreb Posts: 943 Rep Power: 0	That German street talk would only fit a German cuz I really don't know which European country has more gays than they do... Reno, I don't think it would be wise from my side to comment your posts... __________________

Oct 17, 2002, 08:20 AM	#29
Smoothdrive Foolish Genius Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 455 Rep Power: 0	C'mon guys..Reno was just kiddin' By the way Reno, the Clan just called..they asked if it was your white hat they found, evryone else seems to have his hat.. Beeing European i'm allowed to make these jokes Seriously, i have no clue about Croatia, all i know is that it is some balkan country wich is in deep shit ever since the ussr fell apart.. I'ld welcome tourists if i were you..they bring in the money. __________________ GA-7VRXP, AMD2000+, 256MB PC-2700 DDR, Radeon 8500LE, 2x Maxtor 740 (40GB) stripe set, AGNeovo X-150.