Hitler vs. GWBush

~~trodas~~ · Mar 25, 2005, 10:48 AM

I simply stumbled upon some disturbing similarities, so let me share then with us:

First
Hitler invading of Czech republic and later attack Poland in based on lies and Glewitze provoaction.
GWBush attack and occupation on Iraq is based on lies about WMD, terrorism and partly the old Kuvajt provocation story, made by USA.

Second
Hitler started with breaking UN conventions and bonds bidden to Germany after WW (1).
GWBush started with ignoring UN conventions and started the "rad party" to Iraq against UN - occupation never approved.

Third
Hitler come up with ethnic cleanings and killing "lesser humans".
GWBush support the genocide in Palestina and harrast and restricting Arabs, living in US and the whole anti-arab mood (and that is just a beginning).

Four
Hitler exported nacionalism and bounded it with religion and get to war with God's blessings.
GWBush tied together ultrareligious christian religion with messiash tendencies of USA and thus created religion, not much different that sionizm or the believes of the Arabs extremist... Not to mention his lame excourses about God want us to do this and kill these, etc...

Five
Hitler is imprisoned peoples w/o trial and contact with others in camps.
GWBush imprisoning peoples w/o trials and denied them contact with anyone, lawyers including - in - surprise - also camps.

Six
Hitler come up with using of gas to mass-killings of peoples (not only jews, others too).
GWBush and the US army, after blaming Saddam for what Iran did to the Kurds and after their own history with chemical warfare - just say Agent Orange in Vietnam - started using amunition made from depleted uran, witch cause shocking number of civilians with cancer - over 45% CIVILIAN population in Basra (Iraq, not Hawai!) are contamined and sooner or later will die, and they also can't have kids... (maybe you know that girl of one US soldier is born w/o hands, thanks to the depleted uranium, he come to contact with...)
[color=#0000ff]http://www.blisty.cz/2005/1/26/art21699.html[/color]
...the 45% of peoples, what get contamined, is going to die, you know? Apart from the fact, they can't have a childrens... Is not the same mass-killing genocide, as Hitler does?

Well, is there still anyone, who see these two mens (Hitler and GWBush) so different?

In fact, thanks to the new technology and much better ideology, I would consider George Walker Bush a far bigger threat to the world that Hitler ever has... Because Hitler was direct, while GWBush talking about freedoms and calling occupation as liberation, etc.

TJ- · Mar 25, 2005, 10:53 AM

uh oh, be prepared for some wrath trodas...

personally though comparing the two has gone on a long time, but the difference between the two is that Bush is a coward, he discuises what he does. Hitler was straight to the point, he knew what he wanted and didnt care who knew. Bush tries hopelessly to hide everything he does.

OldBuzzard · Mar 25, 2005, 12:58 PM

Dang trodas, you've 'blown our cover'

Well, all I can say is that you better start building your bomb shelter, and stocking it up.

Just as soon as we have consolidated the middle-east....we will be coming after you.

Oh, and battleaxe...you don't have much more time than trodas (it won't take long to annex his country, and your's will be next on the list after him), so use it wisely

I really shouldn't be giving you two this information, but since you do frequent DH, I thought I'd give you a break. Besides, we can use a few collaborators, and if you decide to see the light, we may just have a 'high position' for you in the new puppet regimes that we will be setting up. It will do you no good to resist, so why not make the best of it?

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 25, 2005, 02:51 PM

The diffrance is if it wasn't for us you'd be speaking german and "hailing" your hero still....

Vikingod · Mar 25, 2005, 03:36 PM

threads like this are getting old, lets move on people, nothing but arguing will come from this. Nobody is right and everyone is right, so move on.

e v o · Mar 25, 2005, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikingod

threads like this are getting old, lets move on people, nothing but arguing will come from this. Nobody is right and everyone is right, so move on.

Agreed, I can't help but say Hitler tried to commit genocide, that far shadows anything GW has done (even though he has done some terrible things)

vince3425 · Mar 25, 2005, 07:17 PM

itsn't it a little strange that there are more threads in the flame warzone about President Bush than there are in the POLITICAL DEBATE? quit whining

Shaga · Mar 25, 2005, 09:30 PM

Flame Warzone is for whining, and Bush sucks, enough said.

~~trodas~~ · Mar 25, 2005, 09:30 PM

It's not a strange, it is a provocation

It not matter that these two aren't comparable by the number of deaths, because GWBush just strated yet and still got over 130k of them already and US army refuse to even count civilian causalities, so...

The point is to push some thinking into ways, they aren't tried before

OldBuzzard - I hope the US "economy miracle", based on everyday loaning over 1.8 billion dollars from other world - die sooner that the crazy islams give up. IMHO they get US army out of Iraq, sooner (less causalities) or later (more causalities).
So Im not affraid.
BTW, do you know that Czech republic have many atom reactors and can enrich uran for them? Or for the A-bomb, of course...

And I would never think twice about using A-bomb agains nation that already used it twice against other nation, so...

No worries there

The_Neon_Cowboy - it was the Russians who freed over 85% of Europe, so don't set your hopes too high. BTW, Hitler was not my hero, Hitler was one crazy guy, just like the current US president

There is the only one bad thing about it - you can't kill him. It just prove his mad ideas about "terrorists everywhere" right

Vikingod - little provocation is good for healty thinking - far better that watching Fox news propaganda...

Senor_Mota · Mar 25, 2005, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by trodas

little provocation is good for healty thinking - far better that watching Fox news propaganda...

He has a point there...

OldBuzzard · Mar 26, 2005, 06:15 AM

trodas,

If you actually believe that the Soviet Union 'freed' the countries of Europe that they occupied at the end of WWII, then you are almost too stupid to be allowed to live. At the very least you should be castarated immediately , so that you don't reproduce and pass your stupidity to the rest of the gene pool.

With Soviet occupation, those parts of Europe just traded one oppressor for another.

As for my original post here, I guess I need to remember that humor is wasted on Euro Weenie Liberals. God, how dismal it must be to be a liberal and not have a sence of humor, and to be all 'doom & gloom' all the time.

Since you are so stupid as to make that remark about the Soviets, I guess I need to explain that my post was intended to be as unbelievable as your original post.

Now, go here: http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=6456 find one you like, and leave the intelligent people of the world alone.

LDBlues · Mar 26, 2005, 02:41 PM

Quote:

it was the Russians who freed over 85% of Europe, so don't set your hopes too high.

So, Stalin is your hero?

The diffence between Russian and American liberators is that the Americans gave the country back to the people...

~~trodas~~ · Mar 26, 2005, 09:46 PM

OldBuzzard - now what about instead of insults bring there are some FACTS, mate?

Insults are easy, but arguments are what counts. Now, both the grandparents experience the events we are talking about. One my grandpa fight into guerilla warfare against Hitler with the brigade of Jan Zizka, operating into nearby mountains.
So, just for your consideration - at the end of the war, we freed very much themselves alone. Nazis did not have the manpower and the soldiers are running all towards the Allies, because no-one wanted to be captured by Russians. We, people, control city Prerov 4 days before capitol city insurgency started. So, we pretty much run the young 17 and 18 years nazi soldiers out of the town and say hello to the Russians, witch are pretty barbaric, BTW.
Even 40 yars after we still laughed about how they stealing all the bikes and shouting "samojed" (something like "this is moving for itself") tried to ride at the stolen bikes. None of them (they just think "samojed", no manpower required), not a one single Russian know, that they has to actually move with the pedals, so imagine for far these bikes went and how they cursed, when felling repeatively

Anyway, about 1/16 on my country was freed by General Patoon 10th army, but that it is. Nothing more.
I more like to remember the bomb crathers US ariforce created into and around my towm. We got there a major optical factory Meopta, witch worked into the military stuff, scopes and such, so they want to bomb it down!!! Even the factory was not producing anything, because lack of manpower, sabotages and - like I say, at the end of war, it was all just a big, unimaginable chaos everywhere.
Luckily, the guerilla fighters who was asked to send these positions are altered them and the bombs fall near river Becva, where we, as childerns, used the resulting crateds over 50 years after - for fun

Now, what YOU are know about happen into MY city, MY country and what MY grandparents helped to archive?

LDBlues - sorry, Stalin was the worsest dictator ever, far worser (in the number of deaths) that Hitler. Not my hero.
And after WWII, the countries are free to vote own goverments - it just so happens, the commies won, because people love commies - because they freed us and west betrayed us (Munich dictate), so - that it is.

Xx#1BallerxX · Mar 27, 2005, 05:00 AM

I don't think that Geoerge Bush is trying to rid the world of a whole race, but that's just my opinion.

~~trodas~~ · Mar 27, 2005, 10:54 AM

Xx#1BallerxX - maybe not, but looks what he doing to muslims

Muslim islamists are now considered to be the most hated people on the planet (like jews back in 1930), and you know, where it went, right?

Several results from this progress is pretty ughly, BTW...

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 27, 2005, 11:57 AM

you realise deep linking is frowned upon right? I'm pretty sure you don't have http://bendib.com permission to be deeplibking to thier shit, nor displaying "Khalil Bendib" StudioBendib[color=#0000ff] [/color]

boy that a strong american name ROFL not... "Born in North Africa under a colonialist French regime"

Quote:

Originally Posted by trodas

~NAZI LIKE PROGANDA

The_Neon_Cowboy - it was the Russians who freed over 85% of Europe, so don't set your hopes too high. BTW, Hitler was not my hero, Hitler was one crazy guy, just like the current US president

There is the only one bad thing about it - you can't kill him. It just prove his mad ideas about "terrorists everywhere" right

~NAZI LIKE PROGANDA

Hmm... some how I doubt that...

You seem to forget how little power the president actually has... congress holds the real power... He has some powers but thier rather limited..

So when you shit on bush, you shit on the entire us population

You relise also we supplied a masive amount arms to contries to help them fight secretly way before we ever enterd WWII ...

Keep in mind hitler could of easily took over russia! killed alot more of them. If it wasn't for the harsh russion winter. http://www.secondworldwar.co.uk/casualty.html they had alot of people killed no dobt...

You think the result would be the the same if the us never enterd the war?

Also we fought not only the germans but thier japanese allies....on land, on the sea's and in the air...

Remember russia WAS ALLIED WITH HITLER AND GERMANY!!! For a promised pice of the land pie... Russia was not to attck them... then hitler got over zellious and took them by suprize.... resulting in war on two fronts sadwitched between the americans/allies and russia he was pretty screw'd... all though if the russian winter hand set in russia would either have been took or almost took otherwise... and with out a strong figt on the american frount he would of been free to move troops to where they needed to be streached his forces two thin...

BWX · Mar 30, 2005, 01:55 PM

trodas

Congratulations to the newest member of the rabid, anti-American mis-information hype machine in the PDF! Way to go!

Captn · Mar 31, 2005, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trodas

I simply stumbled upon some disturbing similarities, so let me share then with us:

First
Hitler invading of Czech republic and later attack Poland in based on lies and Glewitze provoaction.
GWBush attack and occupation on Iraq is based on lies about WMD, terrorism and partly the old Kuvajt provocation story, made by USA.

Second
Hitler started with breaking UN conventions and bonds bidden to Germany after WW (1).
GWBush started with ignoring UN conventions and started the "rad party" to Iraq against UN - occupation never approved.

Third
Hitler come up with ethnic cleanings and killing "lesser humans".
GWBush support the genocide in Palestina and harrast and restricting Arabs, living in US and the whole anti-arab mood (and that is just a beginning).

Four
Hitler exported nacionalism and bounded it with religion and get to war with God's blessings.
GWBush tied together ultrareligious christian religion with messiash tendencies of USA and thus created religion, not much different that sionizm or the believes of the Arabs extremist... Not to mention his lame excourses about God want us to do this and kill these, etc...

Five
Hitler is imprisoned peoples w/o trial and contact with others in camps.
GWBush imprisoning peoples w/o trials and denied them contact with anyone, lawyers including - in - surprise - also camps.

Six
Hitler come up with using of gas to mass-killings of peoples (not only jews, others too).
GWBush and the US army, after blaming Saddam for what Iran did to the Kurds and after their own history with chemical warfare - just say Agent Orange in Vietnam - started using amunition made from depleted uran, witch cause shocking number of civilians with cancer - over 45% CIVILIAN population in Basra (Iraq, not Hawai!) are contamined and sooner or later will die, and they also can't have kids... (maybe you know that girl of one US soldier is born w/o hands, thanks to the depleted uranium, he come to contact with...)
[color=#0000ff]http://www.blisty.cz/2005/1/26/art21699.html[/color]
...the 45% of peoples, what get contamined, is going to die, you know? Apart from the fact, they can't have a childrens... Is not the same mass-killing genocide, as Hitler does?

Well, is there still anyone, who see these two mens (Hitler and GWBush) so different?

In fact, thanks to the new technology and much better ideology, I would consider George Walker Bush a far bigger threat to the world that Hitler ever has... Because Hitler was direct, while GWBush talking about freedoms and calling occupation as liberation

This is stupidity at its best.

Captn · Mar 31, 2005, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trodas

Xx#1BallerxX - maybe not, but looks what he doing to muslims

Muslim islamists are now considered to be the most hated people on the planet (like jews back in 1930), and you know, where it went, right?

Several results from this progress is pretty ughly, BTW...

Islamic Fascists should be scared!

Theres a big difference from Islamic Fascists and Jews, Jews are good people thats the difference!

BWX · Mar 31, 2005, 10:05 AM

I guess those bastards should have thought twice before ramming planes into our buildings. They are lucky they didn't get nuked. If it weren't for our constant and unending dedication to limit collateral damage of any and all innocent people in a war, that would have happened.

It costs us billions of dollars more to fight a war with precision laser guided bombs than it would do carpet bomb or nuke a terrorist breeding country into submission after they attacked us..

We realize there are innocent women and children there so we go the extra mile to hit military targets only.. Does that sound like hitler? Or are you people that think Hitler has any similarity to GW Bush just that plain stupid?

Senor_Mota · Mar 31, 2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BWX

It costs us billions of dollars more to fight a war with precision laser guided bombs than it would do carpet bomb or nuke a terrorist breeding country into submission after they attacked us..

Either way, we'll still have more casualties from friendly fire rather than the "terrorists" themselves.

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Originally Posted by BWX

We realize there are innocent women and children there so we go the extra mile to hit military targets only.. Does that sound like hitler? Or are you people that think Hitler has any similarity to GW Bush just that plain stupid?

The assumption that Hitler is akin to "Dubya" is a little preposterous - but are you really that naive? Do you really think it matters where they bomb "the terrorists"? You ever heard the old saying "All is fair in Love and War"? Case in point. My gut instincts alone are enough to let me know that they're not aiming when they drop those bombs. They're all terrorists, remember? What did ol' dubya say? "Terrorists around every corner, shoved into every nook and cranny" or some bullshit like that?

That's foolish. They're only in the countries we're "liberating". *cough*defendingforeignoilinterests*cough*

Captn · Apr 4, 2005, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by OldBuzzard

trodas,

If you actually believe that the Soviet Union 'freed' the countries of Europe that they occupied at the end of WWII, then you are almost too stupid to be allowed to live. At the very least you should be castarated immediately , so that you don't reproduce and pass your stupidity to the rest of the gene pool.

With Soviet occupation, those parts of Europe just traded one oppressor for another.

As for my original post here, I guess I need to remember that humor is wasted on Euro Weenie Liberals. God, how dismal it must be to be a liberal and not have a sence of humor, and to be all 'doom & gloom' all the time.

Since you are so stupid as to make that remark about the Soviets, I guess I need to explain that my post was intended to be as unbelievable as your original post.

Now, go here: http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=6456 find one you like, and leave the intelligent people of the world alone.

BWX · Apr 4, 2005, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senor_Mota

Either way, we'll still have more casualties from friendly fire rather than the "terrorists" themselves.

Where are your stats? Hogwash....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senor_Mota

Do you really think it matters where they bomb "the terrorists"? You ever heard the old saying "All is fair in Love and War"? Case in point. My gut instincts alone are enough to let me know that they're not aiming when they drop those bombs. They're all terrorists, remember? What did ol' dubya say? "Terrorists around every corner, shoved into every nook and cranny" or some bullshit like that?

That's foolish. They're only in the countries we're "liberating". *cough*defendingforeignoilinterests*cough*

A naive view. Your gut just threw up.

TJ- · Apr 4, 2005, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWX

If it weren't for our constant and unending dedication to limit collateral damage of any and all innocent people in a war, that would have happened.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWX

We realize there are innocent women and children there so we go the extra mile to hit military targets only..

Callandor · Apr 4, 2005, 01:50 PM

Lol, I'm pretty sure the CIA and/or NSA are keeping close tabs on this forum.

wiskerbizkit · Apr 5, 2005, 02:33 AM

They're gonna make up some excourses to harrast us next

pr0digal jenius · Apr 5, 2005, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sun_walka

Lol, I'm pretty sure the CIA and/or NSA are keeping close tabs on this forum.

Falstaff · Apr 5, 2005, 05:48 AM

George may be a cowboy from Texas, but that makes him a Texan and an American and Texans kick ass....

Callandor · Apr 5, 2005, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

No, ofcourse I don't mind mister president, go right ahead.

Aleterocker · Apr 5, 2005, 06:51 PM

Just a little statement from someone who suffers under this historical reputation....

This comparision is absurd.

Bush may be mind-limited cowboy, but he's no new generation Hitler for sure.

@Neon Cowboy:
To have half knowledge is worse than to have no knowledge, it would be the best for you to enter a Seminar about European history from 1900-1950 and try again than to type pure rubbish.

Here's a little excourse for you:

The fall of the Sovjet Union allowed intelligence agency that followed the KGB to publish documents which included details that Stalin originally planned to attack Western Europe (and not only Germany, but of course, it was his first target) within the spring, but Hitler was just quicker, so you can result that two shizos tried to smack up each other but one did it before the other could start it.

Russia was officially down with its forces as the US entered the war. Curiously after they entered the war Stalin's tank were able to outnumber German tanks by 10-12 to one(!), depending on terrain. Go figure, old nazi-Germany built loads of tanks! Where were the tanks as Russia was 'attacked'? It's easy, they've been on stand by, waiting till the others' forces become weak. For Russia it was a little catastrophy that the US entered the war and destroyed their plans to take over Europe and the rest of the world.

Do you know HOW the US enters wars?

I don't intend to provoke any US citizen with this, I just want to show that any country tends to drop innocent people, not only terrorist countries and nazis!

WWI: There was a British travel ship (Lusitania), used as hospital in the already running war that had US citizens on board, a German submarine torpedoed it and the US entered the war. WHAT THEY NEVER TOLD was that the German intelligence was feeded with fake informations this ship would transport troops and heavy arms, a masterpiece made by the CIA.

WWII: It was Hitler declaring the war against US, it's known. What he didn't knew was that his allied Japan already initiated the Pearl Harbour offensive. It is still uncovered why the US officially didn't knew what was going on although the intelligence agencies cracked the Japanese communication codes months ago. Japan changed this code as they sensed the US already know the codes, this was a year after Pearl Harbour.

US intelligence agencies have their own way to 'make' politics, and they just act like all other intelligence agencies in the world with the exception that they tend to need more victims to 'persuade' population and politicians.

Another fine example how intelligence agencies provoke wars:

WWII started in 1939 as Poland 'attacked' Germany, you surely know the the sentence 'We shoot back since 11:45". For real it were SS officers shooting from Polish terrain, except Hitler, his fellow asslickers and the SS elite nobody was informed...

Mar 25, 2005, 10:53 AM	#2
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,679 Rep Power: 0	uh oh, be prepared for some wrath trodas... personally though comparing the two has gone on a long time, but the difference between the two is that Bush is a coward, he discuises what he does. Hitler was straight to the point, he knew what he wanted and didnt care who knew. Bush tries hopelessly to hide everything he does. __________________ new sig comming soon

Mar 25, 2005, 12:58 PM	#3
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,782 Rep Power: 145 System Specs	Dang trodas, you've 'blown our cover' Well, all I can say is that you better start building your bomb shelter, and stocking it up. Just as soon as we have consolidated the middle-east....we will be coming after you. Oh, and battleaxe...you don't have much more time than trodas (it won't take long to annex his country, and your's will be next on the list after him), so use it wisely I really shouldn't be giving you two this information, but since you do frequent DH, I thought I'd give you a break. Besides, we can use a few collaborators, and if you decide to see the light, we may just have a 'high position' for you in the new puppet regimes that we will be setting up. It will do you no good to resist, so why not make the best of it? __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY Last edited by OldBuzzard; Mar 25, 2005 at 01:09 PM.

Mar 25, 2005, 02:51 PM	#4
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	The diffrance is if it wasn't for us you'd be speaking german and "hailing" your hero still.... __________________

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Mar 25, 2005, 10:48 AM	#1
~~trodas~~ fanless WC Opty 3GHz Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Czech republic Posts: 349 Rep Power: 0	Hitler vs. GWBush I simply stumbled upon some disturbing similarities, so let me share then with us: First Hitler invading of Czech republic and later attack Poland in based on lies and Glewitze provoaction. GWBush attack and occupation on Iraq is based on lies about WMD, terrorism and partly the old Kuvajt provocation story, made by USA. Second Hitler started with breaking UN conventions and bonds bidden to Germany after WW (1). GWBush started with ignoring UN conventions and started the "rad party" to Iraq against UN - occupation never approved. Third Hitler come up with ethnic cleanings and killing "lesser humans". GWBush support the genocide in Palestina and harrast and restricting Arabs, living in US and the whole anti-arab mood (and that is just a beginning). Four Hitler exported nacionalism and bounded it with religion and get to war with God's blessings. GWBush tied together ultrareligious christian religion with messiash tendencies of USA and thus created religion, not much different that sionizm or the believes of the Arabs extremist... Not to mention his lame excourses about God want us to do this and kill these, etc... Five Hitler is imprisoned peoples w/o trial and contact with others in camps. GWBush imprisoning peoples w/o trials and denied them contact with anyone, lawyers including - in - surprise - also camps. Six Hitler come up with using of gas to mass-killings of peoples (not only jews, others too). GWBush and the US army, after blaming Saddam for what Iran did to the Kurds and after their own history with chemical warfare - just say Agent Orange in Vietnam - started using amunition made from depleted uran, witch cause shocking number of civilians with cancer - over 45% CIVILIAN population in Basra (Iraq, not Hawai!) are contamined and sooner or later will die, and they also can't have kids... (maybe you know that girl of one US soldier is born w/o hands, thanks to the depleted uranium, he come to contact with...) [color=#0000ff]http://www.blisty.cz/2005/1/26/art21699.html[/color] ...the 45% of peoples, what get contamined, is going to die, you know? Apart from the fact, they can't have a childrens... Is not the same mass-killing genocide, as Hitler does? Well, is there still anyone, who see these two mens (Hitler and GWBush) so different? In fact, thanks to the new technology and much better ideology, I would consider George Walker Bush a far bigger threat to the world that Hitler ever has... Because Hitler was direct, while GWBush talking about freedoms and calling occupation as liberation, etc.

Mar 25, 2005, 03:36 PM	#5
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	threads like this are getting old, lets move on people, nothing but arguing will come from this. Nobody is right and everyone is right, so move on.

Mar 25, 2005, 09:30 PM	Thread Starter #9
~~trodas~~ fanless WC Opty 3GHz Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Czech republic Posts: 349 Rep Power: 0	It's not a strange, it is a provocation It not matter that these two aren't comparable by the number of deaths, because GWBush just strated yet and still got over 130k of them already and US army refuse to even count civilian causalities, so... The point is to push some thinking into ways, they aren't tried before OldBuzzard - I hope the US "economy miracle", based on everyday loaning over 1.8 billion dollars from other world - die sooner that the crazy islams give up. IMHO they get US army out of Iraq, sooner (less causalities) or later (more causalities). So Im not affraid. BTW, do you know that Czech republic have many atom reactors and can enrich uran for them? Or for the A-bomb, of course... And I would never think twice about using A-bomb agains nation that already used it twice against other nation, so... No worries there The_Neon_Cowboy - it was the Russians who freed over 85% of Europe, so don't set your hopes too high. BTW, Hitler was not my hero, Hitler was one crazy guy, just like the current US president There is the only one bad thing about it - you can't kill him. It just prove his mad ideas about "terrorists everywhere" right Vikingod - little provocation is good for healty thinking - far better that watching Fox news propaganda...

Mar 26, 2005, 06:15 AM	#11
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,782 Rep Power: 145 System Specs	trodas, If you actually believe that the Soviet Union 'freed' the countries of Europe that they occupied at the end of WWII, then you are almost too stupid to be allowed to live. At the very least you should be castarated immediately , so that you don't reproduce and pass your stupidity to the rest of the gene pool. With Soviet occupation, those parts of Europe just traded one oppressor for another. As for my original post here, I guess I need to remember that humor is wasted on Euro Weenie Liberals. God, how dismal it must be to be a liberal and not have a sence of humor, and to be all 'doom & gloom' all the time. Since you are so stupid as to make that remark about the Soviets, I guess I need to explain that my post was intended to be as unbelievable as your original post. Now, go here: http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=6456 find one you like, and leave the intelligent people of the world alone. __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

Mar 26, 2005, 09:46 PM	Thread Starter #13
~~trodas~~ fanless WC Opty 3GHz Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Czech republic Posts: 349 Rep Power: 0	OldBuzzard - now what about instead of insults bring there are some FACTS, mate? Insults are easy, but arguments are what counts. Now, both the grandparents experience the events we are talking about. One my grandpa fight into guerilla warfare against Hitler with the brigade of Jan Zizka, operating into nearby mountains. So, just for your consideration - at the end of the war, we freed very much themselves alone. Nazis did not have the manpower and the soldiers are running all towards the Allies, because no-one wanted to be captured by Russians. We, people, control city Prerov 4 days before capitol city insurgency started. So, we pretty much run the young 17 and 18 years nazi soldiers out of the town and say hello to the Russians, witch are pretty barbaric, BTW. Even 40 yars after we still laughed about how they stealing all the bikes and shouting "samojed" (something like "this is moving for itself") tried to ride at the stolen bikes. None of them (they just think "samojed", no manpower required), not a one single Russian know, that they has to actually move with the pedals, so imagine for far these bikes went and how they cursed, when felling repeatively Anyway, about 1/16 on my country was freed by General Patoon 10th army, but that it is. Nothing more. I more like to remember the bomb crathers US ariforce created into and around my towm. We got there a major optical factory Meopta, witch worked into the military stuff, scopes and such, so they want to bomb it down!!! Even the factory was not producing anything, because lack of manpower, sabotages and - like I say, at the end of war, it was all just a big, unimaginable chaos everywhere. Luckily, the guerilla fighters who was asked to send these positions are altered them and the bombs fall near river Becva, where we, as childerns, used the resulting crateds over 50 years after - for fun Now, what YOU are know about happen into MY city, MY country and what MY grandparents helped to archive? LDBlues - sorry, Stalin was the worsest dictator ever, far worser (in the number of deaths) that Hitler. Not my hero. And after WWII, the countries are free to vote own goverments - it just so happens, the commies won, because people love commies - because they freed us and west betrayed us (Munich dictate), so - that it is.

Mar 27, 2005, 05:00 AM	#14
Xx#1BallerxX Driver Heaven's MVP Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 860 Rep Power: 0	I don't think that Geoerge Bush is trying to rid the world of a whole race, but that's just my opinion. __________________

Mar 27, 2005, 10:54 AM	Thread Starter #15
~~trodas~~ fanless WC Opty 3GHz Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Czech republic Posts: 349 Rep Power: 0	Xx#1BallerxX - maybe not, but looks what he doing to muslims Muslim islamists are now considered to be the most hated people on the planet (like jews back in 1930), and you know, where it went, right? Several results from this progress is pretty ughly, BTW...

Mar 30, 2005, 01:55 PM	#17
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	trodas Congratulations to the newest member of the rabid, anti-American mis-information hype machine in the PDF! Way to go! __________________

Mar 31, 2005, 10:05 AM	#20
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	I guess those bastards should have thought twice before ramming planes into our buildings. They are lucky they didn't get nuked. If it weren't for our constant and unending dedication to limit collateral damage of any and all innocent people in a war, that would have happened. It costs us billions of dollars more to fight a war with precision laser guided bombs than it would do carpet bomb or nuke a terrorist breeding country into submission after they attacked us.. We realize there are innocent women and children there so we go the extra mile to hit military targets only.. Does that sound like hitler? Or are you people that think Hitler has any similarity to GW Bush just that plain stupid? __________________

Apr 4, 2005, 01:50 PM	#25
Callandor Forged on Dragonmount Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 7,237 Rep Power: 304 System Specs	Lol, I'm pretty sure the CIA and/or NSA are keeping close tabs on this forum. __________________

Apr 5, 2005, 02:33 AM	#26
wiskerbizkit DH ***** hobo Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 467 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	They're gonna make up some excourses to harrast us next

Apr 5, 2005, 05:48 AM	#28
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	George may be a cowboy from Texas, but that makes him a Texan and an American and Texans kick ass.... __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Apr 5, 2005, 06:51 PM	#30
Aleterocker DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Just a little statement from someone who suffers under this historical reputation.... This comparision is absurd. Bush may be mind-limited cowboy, but he's no new generation Hitler for sure. @Neon Cowboy: To have half knowledge is worse than to have no knowledge, it would be the best for you to enter a Seminar about European history from 1900-1950 and try again than to type pure rubbish. Here's a little excourse for you: The fall of the Sovjet Union allowed intelligence agency that followed the KGB to publish documents which included details that Stalin originally planned to attack Western Europe (and not only Germany, but of course, it was his first target) within the spring, but Hitler was just quicker, so you can result that two shizos tried to smack up each other but one did it before the other could start it. Russia was officially down with its forces as the US entered the war. Curiously after they entered the war Stalin's tank were able to outnumber German tanks by 10-12 to one(!), depending on terrain. Go figure, old nazi-Germany built loads of tanks! Where were the tanks as Russia was 'attacked'? It's easy, they've been on stand by, waiting till the others' forces become weak. For Russia it was a little catastrophy that the US entered the war and destroyed their plans to take over Europe and the rest of the world. Do you know HOW the US enters wars? I don't intend to provoke any US citizen with this, I just want to show that any country tends to drop innocent people, not only terrorist countries and nazis! WWI: There was a British travel ship (Lusitania), used as hospital in the already running war that had US citizens on board, a German submarine torpedoed it and the US entered the war. WHAT THEY NEVER TOLD was that the German intelligence was feeded with fake informations this ship would transport troops and heavy arms, a masterpiece made by the CIA. WWII: It was Hitler declaring the war against US, it's known. What he didn't knew was that his allied Japan already initiated the Pearl Harbour offensive. It is still uncovered why the US officially didn't knew what was going on although the intelligence agencies cracked the Japanese communication codes months ago. Japan changed this code as they sensed the US already know the codes, this was a year after Pearl Harbour. US intelligence agencies have their own way to 'make' politics, and they just act like all other intelligence agencies in the world with the exception that they tend to need more victims to 'persuade' population and politicians. Another fine example how intelligence agencies provoke wars: WWII started in 1939 as Poland 'attacked' Germany, you surely know the the sentence 'We shoot back since 11:45". For real it were SS officers shooting from Polish terrain, except Hitler, his fellow asslickers and the SS elite nobody was informed... __________________ My mediocre miser rig: XP2200+@12x166MHz, K7S8XE Rev. 3, 512Megs SwissBIT(Siemens)/Infineon PC2700, Manli FX5700LE (128Bit)@430/575MHz, 40Gig Exelstor, CDRW, DVD-ROM, 550W JHT, Aerocool Extreme HSF. Cheap ATX case in BMW-look with duct from side to HSF.