TJ-

where have u been the last 20 years?

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swatX

enlighten me... i am sure it will be entertaining..

as i was saying.. we never did bomb ARAB cities On PURPOSE.... we never meant to kill arab people ... we had a totally diffrent goal than the terrorists..

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BWX

Watch any documentaries lately? They do that shit man. I am sure it isn't a requirement, but a LOT of them do it.




WTF? You think it is good for what!?! Are you kidding me?

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TJ-

Iraq and Afganistan are arab countries


you both want freedom, but i guess you guys are in it for the oil, so u might be right on that one

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BWX

I will correct my self and you- eating and drinking cow SHIT and cow PISS is REQUIRED.


The Mughal-Muslims who liberated Puranic India from Brahmanic tyranny referred to pre-Islamic India as `jahaliyat' or barbarianism. That this view is grounded in fact is confirmed by perhaps the most disgusting aspect of Hinduism: cow-worship. So total is the devotion of Hindus to this bovine animal that they worship the cow as a goddess and consider its urine and dung so sacred that these products are consumed as ayurvedic medicine. Thus the most authoritative treatise on Ayurveda, by Susruta, lists the following recipes involving cow-urine [1] -

"Gomutra, Cow's urine:
ingredient of a mixture, antidote for obesity,
ingredient of a mixture, purgative,
ingredient of a plaster, eliminates vermin from ulcer,
ingredient of a liquid medicine, for controlling vayu disorders,
ingredient of a wine, or taken alone specific for abdominal dropsy and many other uses."



Indeed, all forms of excreta of the cow are worshipped and accorded the highest sanctity [2] -


" The 5 products of the cow, milk, curds, ghee, urine and dung are all used in purificatory ceremonies, and cow-dung is `worshipped as an emblem of the discus of Vishnu, as is the yellow pigment of the cow'."

In this it is not the Hindus who are fault, but the religion of Hinduism. For this reverence is prescribed in the `holy' Hindu texts. The most authoritative law-book of Hinduism, and which must be unquestioningly be accepted by all Hindus, is the Manu-Smrti. This and countless other Hindu scriptures prescribe that the drinking of cow-urine and dung are holy acts [3] -


Manu.XI.166 : "(To swallow) the five products of the cow (pankagavya) is the atonement for stealing eatables of various kinds, a vehicle, a bed, a seat, flowers, roots, or fruit."
Manu.XI.213 : "(Subsisting on) the urine of cows, cowdung, milk, sour milk, clarified butter, and a decoction of Kusa-grass, and fasting during one (day and) night, (that is) called a Samtapana Krikkhra.

http://www.dalitstan.org/mughalstan/azad/cowworsh.html



Cow crap and cow piss medications! WTF
http://goldsea.com/Asiagate/503/02cow.html







Cow dung and cow PISS pills.
http://www.truthandgrace.com/Hinducowdung.htm






http://www.hinduism.org.za/cowsare.htm

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(flame mode on)

All religions are bunk.

Christians? Rip off of Judaism, mixed with Hercules myth and a bit of Zorastrianism. Bunch of freakin' cannibals, a cult that got out of control during the dying days of the Roman empire where Constantine et al had to cut deals to ensure survival.

Judaism? Let me get this straight...God will lead you out of slavery in Egypt, but will sit back and watch 6 million of you tortured, raped, and mass murdered? If God existed, hes not listening to you anymore anyways, so give it up.

Islam: Christianity for Africa. Needed a piece of the action since Christianity was dominated by Europe.

Buddism. Nice slacker religion. I can't figure out the world so I'll just ignore it. Kind of like a contrived form of insanity where you refuse to accept reality.

Hinduism. The only pagan religion that still holds mainstream appeal. Basically its still around since 90% of india is dirt poor and people can't escape primitive traditions and cultural biases. Not that North America is much better off culture wise...

(flame mode off)

What kills me BMX is that you criticise one religion while openly professing another. Its all the same s***, just a different pile.

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BWX

Professing another? When?


Anyway, what year is it? 2005 AD .. hmmm... after what?


After Buddha? Nope, after some Hindu elephant squid? Nope..

After Allah? Nope.. Makes you wonder why the whole world goes by that date.

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From your first post: "Ok, seriously. Out of all religions I've heard of, most of them are believable. I am Catholic, but the Muslim religions has almost the same god, and jesus." Granted, no bible thumping but you definitely expose a cultural bias in terms of your perception of Hinduism.

A rationalist will interpret the Gregorian calendar system to be the result of the Roman Empire's influence on european civilisation, which has dominated global politics for the last 500 years (especially the last 250). The origins of the calendar from a religious movement is no different than influence of religion on Aztec or Chinese societies who had developed similarly intricate calendaring systems. Had China become the preeminent world power in the 15th century, we'd be talking in terms of year 4000+.

Now, if you wish to discuss socio/economic influences of religion upon different cultures, I suggest you start with Eugene Weber's "The Protestant Ethic" -- it was an argument why English society ultimately proved to be more successful and industrious than Roman Catholic countries. Even though most of europe is christian, his core thesis was that Roman Catholics have a greater deference to authority, which make then less inclined to take risk, which has an economic impact in terms of venture capitalism.

Ultimately IMHO religion itself has nothing to do with the world, but it is relevant in how it shapes the behaviour of people in different cultures and societies.

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BWX

WTF are you talking about!?!?

What are you smoking man, can I have some?


Anyway- explain away the worlds calender or not- it is very telling.

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Explain.

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all that shit about eating cow wastes is for the real hindu nuts. i know no one here or in india that has done that. it something that happens rarely and other countries like to make it sound that the majority do it. milk and water is what we drink and offer the gods, lots of us are vegetarians thats the truth. just like people make us think all muslims are relgion fanatics. true there are some, but no the majority.

yes bathing in ganges is considered very holy, but most normal people will not go in it nowadays in many parts since its so polluted.

and by arabs swatx, i mean the people in iraq and afghanistan. they are considered part of the arab world.

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Ubergrendle

Keep in mind I'm being facetious to a large extent.

Here's my prefered definition of reality from Philip K Dick no less: "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, is still there."

Buddhism argues in favour of enlightenment through acheiving a high conciousness based on meditation. Introspection is good, it helps us understand who we are and what we do in the world. But introspection to forgo reality, to abandon the 'real' world, is like mental masturbation...you have no context to judge your thoughts, no meaning can be ascribed to your delusions. I'm no fan of Ratzinger, but I do agree with him when he says Buddishm is a selfish religion... it is the epitome of selfishness. Kind of explains why its so popular in Hollywood.

In some ways Buddihism is 'better' than many other religions since it hasn't resulted in alot of aggressive militarism or conversions (with a few exceptions, like Bushido). However due to its introspective nature its not activist in a good way either... most other relgions have educated, fed, clothed many more people.

At the end of the day, there's very little difference in the real world between a medidating Buddhist and a baked-out stoner sitting on the couch. The exchange the same amount of carbon dioxide for oxygen, and displace the same amount of space...

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Ubergrendle

No you can't have what I'm smoking since you're American and its against the law.*

My bad -- i seriously regret my mistake. That quote came from Torrorobinson, for some reason I thought you started this thread. My personal apologies. I even went so far as to find the oroiginal post and cut'n'paste, and didn't catch my mistake from the first time...whoopsie.


If you believe the world is based on the Gregorian calendar due to divine right or guidance, then we have nothing further to say to eachother. I cannot prove you wrong as your belief is unmeasurable and unquantifiable.

* I don't participate in any recreational drugs nor drink to excess. I value my rational mind.

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Sandok

That is sick for us in this world but it goes back generations and generations... And comon, one over 700 million hindus, there will always be some nutters. It's called fanatisme and every religion has it...

I'm a normal hindu just so that you know...