off and on, haveing severe internet problems with insightbb

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 18, 2005, 07:17 PM

modem keep going fully onine themn moment later it like "resets"
and goes through the hole process and so I look in my modems logs
A sample of my modem log....

No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - Re- initializing MAC
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - Re- initializing MAC
DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response.

No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - Re- initializing MAC
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - Re- initializing MAC
DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response.

No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - Re- initializing MAC
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - Re- initializing MAC
DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response.

Before this all started the signal had droped to -6 to -10DB
after they did some matianece to the lines, then the last few
days it been @ a constant 1DB... The dosis info looks good so
don't get why they think it a signal issue when its some
problem on thier fucking end no doubt as the cable betten my
medeom and thier outside box is fine. My modem is fine and
the signal is fine.

They said it a signal issue thier sending someone out on monday
to look at it!!!!!

BTW:
I live a stones throw away from thier main office and a the main
cable hub. We live not more then 1/4 mile away from them. in a big
apartment complex...

Also: if it's a signal issues you'd figure thiere would also be a problem
with my digital cable thats working flawlessly....

I'm online for like 5-15 seconds and offline for like 1-30 minutes
repeatly radomized what are the chances it a problem with my modem?
not likely I'd say... especally since thier t3 time out city all the time....

even when they are working as useal...
and they sent cable people out before when I had an issue, just for them to
show up after it working again and they test my lines and find everything is
fine by that time. Becouse they fixed the poblem on thier end! this is driveing
me INSANE!!!!

WEN, THUR, FRI, SAT,SUN,MON
6 DAYS WITH OUT INTERNET ACESS, till the tech shows up
if this keeps up....fuckholes! ARG!!!!!

has go to do with an unacceptable return path if I had to guess.
Becouse now the upstream is revolveing between channel 0,1,2
and at MAX values

EDIT:

Now it back up least for the last 1/2 hour
about 2 hours after companing to them

correction I'm conntected but it stil radomly reseting
I'm just glad to see a small window of useabilty

SFOSOK · Aug 18, 2005, 09:12 PM

can you get a new modem?

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 18, 2005, 09:40 PM

I removed , the Y sliper they put on and the added cable hooked the modem directly
to the wall it the 24" pice of coax and I'm online stabilty... If any they the sinal is a bit
strong LOL

The same shit they relaced lst time they wer out "just in case" when it was working
fine LOL

I think I', going to make them replace th eoutside line comeing in

SFOSOK · Aug 18, 2005, 09:46 PM

Sounds like the best thing you could do, I have cable and for the first 6 months it was crap and always not working. It could only be the line or the modem. They replaced the modem and it would still cut off. But after about a year or two its leveling out. So I say be patient (though I know its hard because you shouldn't have to pay for something you can't even use). Maybe they make their money by interupting a cable line to a couple people's house at least for half a year. Dunno, I just know my company sucks and you have every right to make them work their ass off because you sohuldn't have to pay if you do not have to. I myself get worse pings on servers that are basically 15 miles away from me than ones that are in diff states. I complain to my service provider alll the time and it only gets better.

wiskerbizkit · Aug 18, 2005, 09:54 PM

Sounds like me dude, I've been going 2 months with anywhere from 5%-85% packet loss and theyve come out 4 times to "fix" it. Of course it doesnt do it while the guy is here looking at it, but as soon as he leaves it starts again. Its really bad cos i use teamspeak on a daily basis, nobody breaks up to me but i break up to everyone else.

Kinda makes you wonder whatever happened to customer service. I'm thinking of cancelling my 5Meg cable line for a dependable 1.5Meg dsl line.

SFOSOK · Aug 18, 2005, 10:05 PM

They should really pay for every exact moment of a lost conection and moniter it constantly. Customer service almost does not exist in High Speed internet.

AttroPheed · Aug 18, 2005, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFOSOK

They should really pay for every exact moment of a lost conection and moniter it constantly.

I was saying the exact same thing before i finally just shut off my cable connection and got dsl

. I've had experiences with cable in 2 countries on 2 continents and both were shitty unstable crap. My experiences with dsl (again on 2 sides of the earth) rock solid, always on, never a problem. I even have to unplug it to get firmware updates (its a modem/router/digital tv reciever/voip phoneline) so that my connection isnt interrupted without my explicit permission.

cable sucks, that's all there is to it. i wouldnt wish a cable connection on anyone.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 18, 2005, 11:11 PM

4MB down, 128K up it great... was better with my old modem for some
reason the upstream cap failed on it LOL had 4MB down and 4MB upload!!! LOL!

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Aug 18, 2005, 11:12 PM

off-topic: i have never seen neon use shit, fuck, cunt, bitch, faggot or dick in any of his posts. for such a large poster, he is pretty clean.

SFOSOK · Aug 18, 2005, 11:16 PM

well ay least now we know you have : )

SFOSOK · Aug 18, 2005, 11:17 PM

CAble = faster, but the down time on it makes it pretty equal if not worse than DSL

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 18, 2005, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFOSOK

CAble = faster, but the down time on it makes it pretty equal if not worse than DSL

Not really, as the DSL sucks a big donkey **** , Only other thing decent is if you
can get on the campus t1 line on a like t3 backbone or one of the aparment complexes
with built in shared T1. would be decent I guess....

DSL, after you buy a $149 KIT, (Other monthly charges apply)

down /384Kbps-1.5Mbps up/128Kbps-384Kbps1 Dynamic $14.95Pro1.5Mbps-
down/3.0Mbps384Kbps- up/512Kbps 1 Dynamic $24.99
(static starts at $65)

Thats stupid, as a cable modem is $60 plus the service is $34.99 on top of your

useally DSL is like a faster dial up, the nephews say it really slow as my pearent
have cable at thier hose and they had DSL @ home... Not to mention many have
usage caps and crap....

SFOSOK · Aug 19, 2005, 01:55 AM

well at least its constant, Cable is always breaking off for me. No one I know with DSL has any complaints, and everyone complains about cable.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Aug 19, 2005, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFOSOK

well at least its constant, Cable is always breaking off for me. No one I know with DSL has any complaints, and everyone complains about cable.

depends on your ISP right, on top of that your area also matters if its PACKED. i hate DSL its slower, bell sympatico dsl is based on nortel dsl here in canada. i find cable much faster and rarely ever any downtime. downloads are 350kbps+ usually and i want it to stay that way. there is an extreme which you can download at 700+kbps

Tipstaff · Aug 19, 2005, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiGBrOwNPimpsta

depends on your ISP right, on top of that your area also matters if its PACKED. i hate DSL its slower, bell sympatico dsl is based on nortel dsl here in canada. i find cable much faster and rarely ever any downtime. downloads are 350kbps+ usually and i want it to stay that way. there is an extreme which you can download at 700+kbps

I don't think Bell uses Nortel junk any longer. They were doing massive switching a year or 2 back.

For me, Bell has been great. I have never, ever had a problem with them. Infact, they keep increasing my speed (must be the 1 year contracts I keep signing with them). I'm already up to their High Speed Ultra (625kb/s), which is rock solid all the time, yet I'm still paying peanuts for it.

People have different experiences with each. For some like me, DSL has been superb, for others cable. On the other hand, for my business partner.. niether has worked for him.

Falstaff · Aug 19, 2005, 08:38 AM

I think if you can use sarcasm or puns and pathos and parody in a clever fashion there is no need for expletives, it merely diminishes the person using it.

Tipstaff · Aug 19, 2005, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falstaff

I think if you can use sarcasm or puns and pathos and parody in a clever fashion there is no need for expletives, it merely diminishes the person using it.

True. You can seriously tell the education level of a person through their, um, uh... whatever you said.

On the other hand... sometimes it just feels good. A good $#!% or 57uP!d $O@6 now and then can be OH SO invigerating.

AttroPheed · Aug 19, 2005, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falstaff

I think if you can use sarcasm or puns and pathos and parody in a clever fashion there is no need for expletives, it merely diminishes the person using it.

People are probably being mislead by the flame warzone rules sticky.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 19, 2005, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AttroPheed

People are probably being mislead by the flame warzone rules sticky.

Not really it gets pretty raunchy in here alot of times. The cussing isn't limited
to the FW it all over the place in the forums....People thing it make them
"look cool" or grown up I guess....

AttroPheed · Aug 19, 2005, 02:57 PM

Right, and I can certainly understand the puritan censorship in other areas of the forum but the sticky says, pretty much, that you can be a total fuckwad in the flame warzone as long as it's kept tongue in cheek. If this isn't what was intended then perhaps the sticky should either be emended or discarded.

Personally, I'm more offended by the hypocrisy demonstrated in a person censoring another person's intolerance because of their own intolerance than anything anyone might say to deride an internet service provider.

For now tho, as this is the flame warzone, feel free to flame the shit out of me should you disagree, or just edit my post.

cable sucks.

SFOSOK · Aug 19, 2005, 04:38 PM

Cursing just seems so tasteless now. Just makes a person llok like an absolute moron because they cannot say what they want to with developed words so they resort to the part of their brain that has not evolved since they were 13.

Falstaff · Aug 19, 2005, 05:02 PM

It is possible in a very clever and humorous fashion to use the english language to deliver keen cynicism and clever wit to accomplish a good flame.

SFOSOK · Aug 19, 2005, 06:38 PM

not for some.

AttroPheed · Aug 19, 2005, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFOSOK

not for some.

Gotta love Captain Double-Post chiming in on what makes for fitting forum fodder. The irony is a killer. Especially to those that have tried to read the monosyllabic vagaries that this neaderthal typically vomits up as a post.

My point was this is the "flame warzone" and not the "cuddly teddybears and butterflies" thread. To censor a post with a few "naughty" words in a section where it is explicitly allowed is just plain assinine no matter what your puritan views may say to support it. Waiting and reacting in countenance of views from persons shouting of excessive or overtly hurtful phrases or threats to another group or individual would seem, at least to me, a more logical path.

Perhaps there is something ambiguous in this sentence:

Quote:

Originally Posted by the flame warzone rules sticky

"Please, if you're offended by the posts here then DON'T READ THIS FORUM SECTION."

Or maybe lord of the moderator edit button saw this sentence:

Quote:

Originally Posted by My buddy the FWZ sticky again

"If you go over the top then you will be moderated."

and took it to mean "censor any form of language that they wouldn't allow the use of on 'The Mickey Mouse Club' in 1966 especially if made in reference to a large faceless corporation that will never, ever, even once, accidently, read the post its used in, ever."

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 20, 2005, 01:43 AM

OMG my problem is back!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Everything wa working last nigh and I had everything hooked up. I had gten acess by connecting directly to the wall outlet with my modem. It was working well and befre I went to bed last nigh I hooked the TV and modem back up the old way and EVERYTHING WORKED.

Woke up got on line watched TV etc... Told MY ISP really no meed for them to come out now...

Left came back home NO INTERNET!!!!!, had to take the Y spliter off again, and hook the modem directly to the wall. (so the TV box is no longer connected, no TV) and it still didn't work!!! BAH! SO I told my ISP again they will be out on tuesday....

I was messing with it and got SHOCKED!!! WTF??? I tested it wih my DVM and there was
. 15v DC comeing down the line

. My cable oulet is shared with a phone outlet I"m thinking maybe when I was messing with it that one of the wire was adding a bit to the line by being n contact. I went back in the wall plate and there were two free wires but the value it had was far stronger then .15 I cut them down, and wraped the outside metal
part of the coax connector with electrical tape just to be sure there was nothig simular happening again...

Still no internet connection...hooked direclty to the wall with the modem

A little later I tried hooking it directly to the wall and it works again

just with out the spliter, (wich means no TV in the liveing room

)
But at lest I'm yet again able to get online....

I still don't get what the fuck........ as if it were the cable or the spliter it
shouldn't of worked last night and this morning. My best guess it has to be an
outside problem with the signal. But the inside equipment/cable and spliter
compounds the problem. As the signal is slighly weaked with the spliter and
cable box hooked up...

I had trouble with my cable box before, as in the digital cable, But this is the
1st magor ISP problem I've seen... except for a a few short outages...

This is very strange.... I decided at the very lest I'll make then run new cable to thier box out side from my outlest wich is actually pretty easy as I dirllied the holes and laid the cable my self just a year or two ago... its only like 15 feet of run.... goes in the wall outside, into the shed, out the shed wall and direclty to the box. The out side cable
isn't damaged.. But I still want new

just in case

I though about buying one of those really good spliter but I'mdoing nothing ATM
not untill they come out and I'll take things from there.........

SFOSOK · Aug 20, 2005, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AttroPheed

Gotta love Captain Double-Post chiming in on what makes for fitting forum fodder. The irony is a killer. Especially to those that have tried to read the monosyllabic vagaries that this neaderthal typically vomits up as a post.

My point was this is the "flame warzone" and not the "cuddly teddybears and butterflies" thread. To censor a post with a few "naughty" words in a section where it is explicitly allowed is just plain assinine no matter what your puritan views may say to support it. Waiting and reacting in countenance of views from persons shouting of excessive or overtly hurtful phrases or threats to another group or individual would seem, at least to me, a more logical path.

Perhaps there is something ambiguous in this sentence:

Or maybe lord of the moderator edit button saw this sentence:
and took it to mean "censor any form of language that they wouldn't allow the use of on 'The Mickey Mouse Club' in 1966 especially if made in reference to a large faceless corporation that will never, ever, even once, accidently, read the post its used in, ever."

Is that the best you got, because I know you can do better.

Falstaff · Aug 20, 2005, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFOSOK

Is that the best you got, because I know you can do better.

he cant.....he cant......dont you see......the poor man.........life is so hard......
one cannot flame....without a spark......sigh

AttroPheed · Aug 20, 2005, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFOSOK

Is that the best you got, because I know you can do better.

We all know that this is how simpletons concede victory.

Come on mouth-breather. Certainly you've gleaned something from the shit I post to form some sort of retort. I've gone on about beating the life out of hookers with furniture parts as a means for me to get into heaven and belittling australia's stance against nuclear weapons. Saving a retaliation just to pretend you're the new Patron Saint of Public Forum Trolls isn't going to help you any as I've seen the bigoted drivel that you've (double and triple) posted in other threads as well. I think it's time to see if you can manage to give me my comeuppance without resorting to threats of bombing an entire country or racism. I won't even count grammar or spelling if that's what you're worried about.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Aug 22, 2005, 04:19 AM

Multi meter hooked to the line core
and to the metal cable "jacket"

0.15V DC
0.6 V AC

What the???? so there defonatly "power" comeing down the line enough that you can "feel it"...

SFOSOK · Aug 22, 2005, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AttroPheed

We all know that this is how simpletons concede victory.

Come on mouth-breather. Certainly you've gleaned something from the shit I post to form some sort of retort. I've gone on about beating the life out of hookers with furniture parts as a means for me to get into heaven and belittling australia's stance against nuclear weapons. Saving a retaliation just to pretend you're the new Patron Saint of Public Forum Trolls isn't going to help you any as I've seen the bigoted drivel that you've (double and triple) posted in other threads as well. I think it's time to see if you can manage to give me my comeuppance without resorting to threats of bombing an entire country or racism. I won't even count grammar or spelling if that's what you're worried about.

Nope

. And yes I breathe through my mouth and I also breathe through my nose. I still pity you Attro, but if it makes you feel any better keep the attacks coming. This thread is also not about me. So if you can't help Neon with any information then you are useless on this thread. Don't be a waste of space, there is still hope for you yet, and remember Jesus loves you to Attro.

Aug 18, 2005, 07:17 PM	#1
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	off and on, haveing severe internet problems with insightbb modem keep going fully onine themn moment later it like "resets" and goes through the hole process and so I look in my modems logs A sample of my modem log.... No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - Re- initializing MAC No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - Re- initializing MAC DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response. No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - Re- initializing MAC No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - Re- initializing MAC DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response. No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - Re- initializing MAC No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - Re- initializing MAC DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response. Before this all started the signal had droped to -6 to -10DB after they did some matianece to the lines, then the last few days it been @ a constant 1DB... The dosis info looks good so don't get why they think it a signal issue when its some problem on thier fucking end no doubt as the cable betten my medeom and thier outside box is fine. My modem is fine and the signal is fine. They said it a signal issue thier sending someone out on monday to look at it!!!!! BTW: I live a stones throw away from thier main office and a the main cable hub. We live not more then 1/4 mile away from them. in a big apartment complex... Also: if it's a signal issues you'd figure thiere would also be a problem with my digital cable thats working flawlessly.... I'm online for like 5-15 seconds and offline for like 1-30 minutes repeatly radomized what are the chances it a problem with my modem? not likely I'd say... especally since thier t3 time out city all the time.... even when they are working as useal... and they sent cable people out before when I had an issue, just for them to show up after it working again and they test my lines and find everything is fine by that time. Becouse they fixed the poblem on thier end! this is driveing me INSANE!!!! WEN, THUR, FRI, SAT,SUN,MON 6 DAYS WITH OUT INTERNET ACESS, till the tech shows up if this keeps up....fuckholes! ARG!!!!! has go to do with an unacceptable return path if I had to guess. Becouse now the upstream is revolveing between channel 0,1,2 and at MAX values EDIT: Now it back up least for the last 1/2 hour about 2 hours after companing to them correction I'm conntected but it stil radomly reseting I'm just glad to see a small window of useabilty __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Aug 18, 2005 at 11:24 PM.

Aug 18, 2005, 09:12 PM	#2
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	can you get a new modem? __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Aug 18, 2005, 09:40 PM	Thread Starter #3
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	I removed , the Y sliper they put on and the added cable hooked the modem directly to the wall it the 24" pice of coax and I'm online stabilty... If any they the sinal is a bit strong LOL The same shit they relaced lst time they wer out "just in case" when it was working fine LOL I think I', going to make them replace th eoutside line comeing in __________________

Aug 18, 2005, 09:46 PM	#4
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Sounds like the best thing you could do, I have cable and for the first 6 months it was crap and always not working. It could only be the line or the modem. They replaced the modem and it would still cut off. But after about a year or two its leveling out. So I say be patient (though I know its hard because you shouldn't have to pay for something you can't even use). Maybe they make their money by interupting a cable line to a couple people's house at least for half a year. Dunno, I just know my company sucks and you have every right to make them work their ass off because you sohuldn't have to pay if you do not have to. I myself get worse pings on servers that are basically 15 miles away from me than ones that are in diff states. I complain to my service provider alll the time and it only gets better. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Aug 18, 2005, 10:05 PM	#6
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	They should really pay for every exact moment of a lost conection and moniter it constantly. Customer service almost does not exist in High Speed internet. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Aug 18, 2005, 09:54 PM	#5
wiskerbizkit DH ***** hobo Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 467 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Sounds like me dude, I've been going 2 months with anywhere from 5%-85% packet loss and theyve come out 4 times to "fix" it. Of course it doesnt do it while the guy is here looking at it, but as soon as he leaves it starts again. Its really bad cos i use teamspeak on a daily basis, nobody breaks up to me but i break up to everyone else. Kinda makes you wonder whatever happened to customer service. I'm thinking of cancelling my 5Meg cable line for a dependable 1.5Meg dsl line.

Aug 18, 2005, 11:11 PM	Thread Starter #8
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	4MB down, 128K up it great... was better with my old modem for some reason the upstream cap failed on it LOL had 4MB down and 4MB upload!!! LOL! __________________

Aug 18, 2005, 11:12 PM	#9
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	off-topic: i have never seen neon use shit, fuck, cunt, bitch, faggot or dick in any of his posts. for such a large poster, he is pretty clean. __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Aug 18, 2005, 11:16 PM	#10
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	well ay least now we know you have : ) __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Aug 18, 2005, 11:17 PM	#11
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	CAble = faster, but the down time on it makes it pretty equal if not worse than DSL __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Aug 19, 2005, 01:55 AM	#13
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	well at least its constant, Cable is always breaking off for me. No one I know with DSL has any complaints, and everyone complains about cable. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Aug 19, 2005, 08:38 AM	#16
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	I think if you can use sarcasm or puns and pathos and parody in a clever fashion there is no need for expletives, it merely diminishes the person using it. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Aug 19, 2005, 02:57 PM	#20
AttroPheed DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Paris Posts: 386 Rep Power: 0	Right, and I can certainly understand the puritan censorship in other areas of the forum but the sticky says, pretty much, that you can be a total fuckwad in the flame warzone as long as it's kept tongue in cheek. If this isn't what was intended then perhaps the sticky should either be emended or discarded. Personally, I'm more offended by the hypocrisy demonstrated in a person censoring another person's intolerance because of their own intolerance than anything anyone might say to deride an internet service provider. For now tho, as this is the flame warzone, feel free to flame the shit out of me should you disagree, or just edit my post. cable sucks. __________________ "Facts seldom interfere with belief." - James Randi "Where knowledge ends, superstition begins." - Some Guy "A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence." - David Hume [COLOR=red]Flying Spaghetti Is Lord!![/COLOR] My PC Stats

Aug 19, 2005, 04:38 PM	#21
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Cursing just seems so tasteless now. Just makes a person llok like an absolute moron because they cannot say what they want to with developed words so they resort to the part of their brain that has not evolved since they were 13. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Aug 19, 2005, 05:02 PM	#22
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	It is possible in a very clever and humorous fashion to use the english language to deliver keen cynicism and clever wit to accomplish a good flame. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Aug 19, 2005, 06:38 PM	#23
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	not for some. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Aug 20, 2005, 01:43 AM	Thread Starter #25
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	OMG my problem is back!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Everything wa working last nigh and I had everything hooked up. I had gten acess by connecting directly to the wall outlet with my modem. It was working well and befre I went to bed last nigh I hooked the TV and modem back up the old way and EVERYTHING WORKED. Woke up got on line watched TV etc... Told MY ISP really no meed for them to come out now... Left came back home NO INTERNET!!!!!, had to take the Y spliter off again, and hook the modem directly to the wall. (so the TV box is no longer connected, no TV) and it still didn't work!!! BAH! SO I told my ISP again they will be out on tuesday.... I was messing with it and got SHOCKED!!! WTF??? I tested it wih my DVM and there was . 15v DC comeing down the line . My cable oulet is shared with a phone outlet I"m thinking maybe when I was messing with it that one of the wire was adding a bit to the line by being n contact. I went back in the wall plate and there were two free wires but the value it had was far stronger then .15 I cut them down, and wraped the outside metal part of the coax connector with electrical tape just to be sure there was nothig simular happening again... Still no internet connection...hooked direclty to the wall with the modem A little later I tried hooking it directly to the wall and it works again just with out the spliter, (wich means no TV in the liveing room ) But at lest I'm yet again able to get online.... I still don't get what the fuck........ as if it were the cable or the spliter it shouldn't of worked last night and this morning. My best guess it has to be an outside problem with the signal. But the inside equipment/cable and spliter compounds the problem. As the signal is slighly weaked with the spliter and cable box hooked up... I had trouble with my cable box before, as in the digital cable, But this is the 1st magor ISP problem I've seen... except for a a few short outages... This is very strange.... I decided at the very lest I'll make then run new cable to thier box out side from my outlest wich is actually pretty easy as I dirllied the holes and laid the cable my self just a year or two ago... its only like 15 feet of run.... goes in the wall outside, into the shed, out the shed wall and direclty to the box. The out side cable isn't damaged.. But I still want new just in case I though about buying one of those really good spliter but I'mdoing nothing ATM not untill they come out and I'll take things from there......... __________________

Aug 22, 2005, 04:19 AM	Thread Starter #29
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Multi meter hooked to the line core and to the metal cable "jacket" 0.15V DC 0.6 V AC What the???? so there defonatly "power" comeing down the line enough that you can "feel it"... __________________