who are the biggest fools? AMD users or Intel?

May 25, 2002, 11:45 AM

vote, are intel users a bunch of idiots with their stupid adverts with their fags in suits and followers who can see no wrong, even when they have processors with problems, like the doomed 1.13ghz model, like the two lines of P4 models, one range total crap while the other is the way it SHOULD have been in the first place.
poor architecture?

AMD users? are they big headed egotists with cpus that run too hot which cant be overclocked as well? poor processor development? stability problems? poor chipsets that are just crap?

vote, lets see !!

Jeff · May 25, 2002, 05:03 PM

Well here's the thing:

Intel vs AMD: AMD does more calculations/clock cycle, Intel makes up for it with huge numbers of Clock Cycles.

Therefore, overclocking and Intel more than an athlon, really means you are stressing the AMD more with a smaller overclock. Meaning more speed with only having to overclock it 100MHz, where as a P4 would need to be overclocked by say 170MHz to get the same speed increase.

Anyone who thinks different, can think whatever they want, other peoples stupidity is not my problem!

illiterateSneak · May 25, 2002, 05:11 PM

Thats freakin' right Cyborg!

reno · May 29, 2002, 05:29 PM

How come to overclock an Athlon 100mhz someone needs to increase their voltage to like 1.8-1.9 volts, when to clock a 1.6ghz northwood by 800Mhz they can keep it at 1.5 volts? Or a 1.7 willy by 400Mhz at 1.7 volts?

And why do AMD fans pay 50 more bucks for a 33mhz frequency difference they could get by upping their FSB a couple of notches?

Hmm...

therock16 · May 29, 2002, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reno
And why do AMD fans pay 50 more bucks for a 33mhz frequency difference they could get by upping their FSB a couple of notches?

With that logic... Why would an Intel user buy a 2.4a p4 when they could simply buy a 1.8a and up the fsb to 133

And btw, it's 66mhz not 33. A 66mhz increase in axp speed equals a 100-200mhz increase on a p4.

UberLord · May 29, 2002, 10:48 PM

You need to get the infamous advertisment in your head, then the following equation makes sense

Intel = dumb dumb dumb dumb

rushstrike · May 29, 2002, 11:29 PM

re:

Hmm...And why do AMD fans pay 50 more bucks for a 33mhz frequency difference they could get by upping their FSB a couple of notches?

It is not as easy as that. As for my motherboard it is not very stable when overclock; my system would be unbootable when I up the fsb to 107mhz or more.

UberLord · May 29, 2002, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rushstrike

It is not as easy as that. As for my motherboard it is not very stable when overclock; my system would be unbootable when I up the fsb to 107mhz or more.

Sure it is - what cooling do you have? Got branded memory chips? How high are they rated? What mobo do you have? Got any obscure components installed?

Overclocking the FSB affects pretty much every device in your PC - so blaming that on the processor isn't fair.

rushstrike · May 30, 2002, 04:03 AM

re:
Sure it is - what cooling do you have? Got branded memory chips? How high are they rated? What mobo do you have? Got any obscure components installed?

Overclocking the FSB affects pretty much every device in your PC - so blaming that on the processor isn't fair.

First of all I am not blaming the cpu at all. I just wanted to give reason why people would might want to buy a 133mhz fsb cpu instead of crunching up the FSB as it would give unstability for people as me.

My motherboard is a msi-6330 version 2. It is not an overclocklable motherboard so when I want to up the FSB, I have to do it through software. I have an air cooling h/f, and the brand is a thermaltake cu +; the fan is going around 6700 rpm. My memory is Samsung pc133. I think the only problem that is preventing me from overclocking is the motherboard.

Ijustwannaknow · Jun 1, 2002, 05:39 AM

intel users.

Silentst2000 · Jun 2, 2002, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rushstrike
re:
Sure it is - what cooling do you have? Got branded memory chips? How high are they rated? What mobo do you have? Got any obscure components installed?

Overclocking the FSB affects pretty much every device in your PC - so blaming that on the processor isn't fair.

First of all I am not blaming the cpu at all. I just wanted to give reason why people would might want to buy a 133mhz fsb cpu instead of crunching up the FSB as it would give unstability for people as me.

My motherboard is a msi-6330 version 2. It is not an overclocklable motherboard so when I want to up the FSB, I have to do it through software. I have an air cooling h/f, and the brand is a thermaltake cu +; the fan is going around 6700 rpm. My memory is Samsung pc133. I think the only problem that is preventing me from overclocking is the motherboard.

kt133 chipset can NOT overclock for shit. Period.

that is why they release the kt133A.(and to fix and add more bugs)

May 25, 2002, 11:45 AM	#1
Billy Guest Posts: n/a	which are the biggest fools? AMD users or Intel? vote, are intel users a bunch of idiots with their stupid adverts with their fags in suits and followers who can see no wrong, even when they have processors with problems, like the doomed 1.13ghz model, like the two lines of P4 models, one range total crap while the other is the way it SHOULD have been in the first place. poor architecture? AMD users? are they big headed egotists with cpus that run too hot which cant be overclocked as well? poor processor development? stability problems? poor chipsets that are just crap? vote, lets see !!

May 25, 2002, 05:03 PM	#2
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	Well here's the thing: Intel vs AMD: AMD does more calculations/clock cycle, Intel makes up for it with huge numbers of Clock Cycles. Therefore, overclocking and Intel more than an athlon, really means you are stressing the AMD more with a smaller overclock. Meaning more speed with only having to overclock it 100MHz, where as a P4 would need to be overclocked by say 170MHz to get the same speed increase. Anyone who thinks different, can think whatever they want, other peoples stupidity is not my problem! __________________

May 29, 2002, 05:29 PM	#4
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	Hmm... How come to overclock an Athlon 100mhz someone needs to increase their voltage to like 1.8-1.9 volts, when to clock a 1.6ghz northwood by 800Mhz they can keep it at 1.5 volts? Or a 1.7 willy by 400Mhz at 1.7 volts? And why do AMD fans pay 50 more bucks for a 33mhz frequency difference they could get by upping their FSB a couple of notches? Hmm...

May 29, 2002, 10:48 PM	#6
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May 29, 2002, 11:29 PM	#7
rushstrike DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 34 Rep Power: 0	re: Hmm...And why do AMD fans pay 50 more bucks for a 33mhz frequency difference they could get by upping their FSB a couple of notches? It is not as easy as that. As for my motherboard it is not very stable when overclock; my system would be unbootable when I up the fsb to 107mhz or more. __________________ MSI KT3 Ultra-2 xp 1400mhz@1790mhz radeon 8500 OEM 256mb corsair xms3000

May 25, 2002, 05:11 PM	#3
illiterateSneak Resident Hard-Ass Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	Thats freakin' right Cyborg!

May 30, 2002, 04:03 AM	#9
rushstrike DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 34 Rep Power: 0	re: Sure it is - what cooling do you have? Got branded memory chips? How high are they rated? What mobo do you have? Got any obscure components installed? Overclocking the FSB affects pretty much every device in your PC - so blaming that on the processor isn't fair. First of all I am not blaming the cpu at all. I just wanted to give reason why people would might want to buy a 133mhz fsb cpu instead of crunching up the FSB as it would give unstability for people as me. My motherboard is a msi-6330 version 2. It is not an overclocklable motherboard so when I want to up the FSB, I have to do it through software. I have an air cooling h/f, and the brand is a thermaltake cu +; the fan is going around 6700 rpm. My memory is Samsung pc133. I think the only problem that is preventing me from overclocking is the motherboard. __________________ MSI KT3 Ultra-2 xp 1400mhz@1790mhz radeon 8500 OEM 256mb corsair xms3000

Jun 1, 2002, 05:39 AM	#10
Ijustwannaknow Driverheaven Senior Membe Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 241 Rep Power: 0	intel users.