ATI / DriverHeaven Folding@Home Contest & Interview

dagski · Nov 3, 2006, 01:26 AM

im folding atm.

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/m...page&username=[DH]dagski&teamnum=51394

Judas · Nov 3, 2006, 01:36 AM

hmm..... i think i'll pop this x1900xtx into this other machine.. and i wonder if it's worth taking the xtx and mastercard.... maybe leaving the master card in this machine and putting the other xtx in yet another machine.... 3 computers using the x1900's to there full capacity.

i just don't wanna leave them running overnight.

BWX · Nov 3, 2006, 04:24 AM

Yay I got my first WU ever in my whole life done.. my PC actually did something worth while for a change!

[hobo]eclipse · Nov 3, 2006, 04:49 AM

whoo hoo i made the list, guess it finally updated! nice to see th DH folk representing!

BWX · Nov 3, 2006, 04:58 AM

Yeah the site seems extremely unresponsive for some reason.. I even got a few errors saying too many connections try again later a few times. Before it was really fast though. Strange.

[hobo]eclipse · Nov 3, 2006, 05:42 AM

sweet, DH taxing the folding servers!

Tipstaff · Nov 3, 2006, 05:42 AM

BTW, guys, for those with multi-gpus (ie. Crossfire systems) you might want to take a look at the download page for a little surprise that just got uploaded:

Windows XP GPU client console version (with multi-GPU support)

5.91 beta

FAQ
Multi-GPU FAQ

pr0digal jenius · Nov 3, 2006, 05:59 AM

hmmm...folding goes slow when doing a full virus scan

BWX · Nov 3, 2006, 06:10 AM

Woe - when you resize the GUI version's GUI window.. it shows all the molecules.. only when resizing though.. It flashes them across the screen in what looks like real time. Pretty crazy.

EDIT- don't do it too long though, or it breaks the GUI display and you have to restart the folding program.

~~werty316~~ · Nov 3, 2006, 06:35 AM

Damn sweet comp for sure.

Judas · Nov 3, 2006, 05:11 PM

I CANNOT and it will NOT allow me to run dual gpu....

it won't allow me to run more then 1 console

it won't allow me to put in -gpu 0 -gpu 2 in the same shortcut line.

How the hell do you use multi gpu!? did they not test this...

damn instructions are useless and unexplanatory.

so i went ahead and disabled crossfire and plug in my syncmaster 900ift, fired it up, and ati cat 6.10's say that my display drivers are out of date, please downloading from the following link (which it doesn't display a link)

Restarted, finally got the syncmaster to fire up, extended.. but using -gpu 0 for primary and -gpu 1/2/3 (trying each) results in error 99 which says nothing is there.

wtf?

Judas · Nov 3, 2006, 05:37 PM

OK, much restarting and fiddling and confusion later.

Not to mention this coming up a few dozen times while trying to extend onto my other crt monitor which totally doesn't make sense.

i finally got the sucker working (or so i beleive it's working.)

Course Display 3 is being used as -gpu 1 and not 2?

Judas · Nov 3, 2006, 06:29 PM

well going strong for 1 hour... and appears to be roughly 2 times faster.

full WU in 5 hours.. not to shabby

Erroneus · Nov 3, 2006, 08:05 PM

Cheat!

How much faster is the console version over the GUI version, I'm talking about normal CPU here, anybody tested?

Zardon · Nov 3, 2006, 10:19 PM

worked first time for me judas, read the instructions better next time

BWX · Nov 3, 2006, 10:27 PM

I don't think the WU time completion is an indication of anything..

My second WU frames were much lower than my first- but both had 500 frames. Now I am on my third WU, and there is only 250 frames, but the frames are averaging 8 minutes to 13 minutes per frame, where before they were around 3 minutes or less for the first WU, and 2 minutes or less for the 2nd WU.

I think they are all just different. My second WU was done in about 11 hours or so, and this one seems like it will taker at least 2 days if not 3.

This third one also seems to be doing mostly pairs, triples, or even quadruples of proteins or whatever it's simulation. Pretty cool looking stuff in the GUI.

Zardon · Nov 3, 2006, 10:28 PM

Ok ive had a few people asking why im not folding. so ive built a system specifically for this, comprising a quad core processor running one client and 2 GPU clients running two others (x1950s).

Hopefully this helps

Zardon · Nov 3, 2006, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWX

I don't think the WU time completion is an indication of anything..

My second WU frames were much lower than my first- but both had 500 frames. Now I am on my third WU, and there is only 250 frames, but the frames are averaging 8 minutes to 13 minutes per frame, where before they were around 3 minutes or less for the first WU, and 2 minutes or less for the 2nd WU.

I think they are all just different. My second WU was done in about 11 hours or so, and this one seems like it will taker at least 2 days if not 3.

This third one also seems to be doing mostly pairs, triples, or even quadruples of proteins or whatever it's simulation. Pretty cool looking stuff in the GUI.

Dont listen to judas BWX, is the epeni thing again. all the WUs are different. they actually sometimes send you a more complex one to solve depending on the benchmark results. its basically random.

Judas · Nov 3, 2006, 11:12 PM

wtf...

it won't let me fire up more then one client.. how the hell did you manage that Z?

if i fire up more then 1 gpu client, it complains about a the first instance and the first complains about the 2nd, and then the system is almost completely unresponcive till i force end process them both.

My understanding to get dual gpu, is to make a shortcut of the foldering EXE and then put -gpu 0 -gpu 2 in the same shortcut address.

Correct?

The instructions are simply, way to basic, and aren't really "steps" at all as they skip a few thinking you know all about how there program is saposed to work, and where to punch in tags and all that.

Zardon · Nov 3, 2006, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

wtf...

it won't let me fire up more then one client.. how the hell did you manage that Z?

if i fire up more then 1 gpu client, it complains about a the first instance and the first complains about the 2nd, and then the system is almost completely unresponcive till i force end process them both.

My understanding to get dual gpu, is to make a shortcut of the foldering EXE and then put -gpu 0 -gpu 2 in the same shortcut address.

Correct?

The instructions are simply, way to basic, and aren't really "steps" at all as they skip a few thinking you know all about how there program is saposed to work, and where to punch in tags and all that.

ermm "address"? Way I got it to work was to copy the console client into a folder, make a duplicate of all the folder contents. then go to start run/cmd/ cd.. to the folder. run the exe with the command tag. - if you dont know dos you can also create a shortcut to the exe and then add the tag "-gpu 1" - or whatever the number is into properties - target, after the quotation marks like you would with any tagged exe.

Incidentally i found although that monitor 2 was showing up in the monitors display as 3 it is actually 2. and then with the GPU ID you lower that by 1. so 1 (meaning gpu 0 and gpu1). pretty straightforward.

Judas · Nov 3, 2006, 11:21 PM

ok is this not what they suggest you do?

to use dual GPU mode?

Cause reguardless of what i do... running 2 of the GPU clients results in erros and complaining like i mentioned before.

Zardon · Nov 3, 2006, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

ok is this not what they suggest you do?

to use dual GPU mode?

Cause reguardless of what i do... running 2 of the GPU clients results in erros and complaining like i mentioned before.

dear lord no. it cant split a client into two processes. You need to run two clients and have each target a specific GPU core. You also dont remove the quotation marks as that is the path to the actual exe, the command filter should be outside the quotation marks.

make two folders

client1
client2
copy the exe into both and make a shortcut for each exe in that specific folder. hit properties on each shortcut and add the single gpu tag to the end. run both. if you get a confliction then the ID isnt right. try the tags of -gpu 0 and -gpu 1 first. if it conflicts then try the second to - gpu 2. the first should always be 0 (1 minus 1). I did all mine in the dos cmd, but it works in windows too as I just tested it.

Judas · Nov 3, 2006, 11:33 PM

I tried the command as well.. same results....

heres what i get if i run 2 clients from different folders (or same folder using the same exe with 2 different shortcuts)

Example:

Now i figured MID needs changeing but i'm not sure how to do this...

Btw, this is what i tried first, so i figured... ok, that's obviously wrong.... so i tried it another way.... i figured a single program could take advantage of to gpu's.... So i figured this was correct.

ET3D · Nov 3, 2006, 11:33 PM

I got the graphics GPU client working with no problems, but it made my work computer (X1900 GT) very unresponsive, so I stopped running it. Can't work that way. I downloaded the CPU version and I'm running it right now at home.

Any chance this will run on the X1300 I won? BTW, that's a cool Sapphire card, not the normally drab ATI ones.

Judas · Nov 3, 2006, 11:37 PM

erm. i'm noticing that for some very strange reason, it's like it's trying to run from GPU1 still... wtf? how do i fix this?

Zardon · Nov 3, 2006, 11:40 PM

judas

you removed the quotations marks on the shortcut leading to the EXE - its not recognising the command for the GPU via the target link. and a single program cant take advantage of multi GPUS unless its programmed natively to do that, and remember you arent rendering a game screen with alternate frame rendering, you are directly accessing the core to run the whole program..........

Zardon · Nov 3, 2006, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ET3D

Any chance this will run on the X1300 I won? BTW, that's a cool Sapphire card, not the normally drab ATI ones.

unfortunately not.

Judas · Nov 4, 2006, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

judas

you removed the quotations marks on the shortcut leading to the EXE - its not recognising the command for the GPU via the target link. and a single program cant take advantage of multi GPUS unless its programmed natively to do that, and remember you arent rendering a game screen with alternate frame rendering, you are directly accessing the core to run the whole program..........

?

I know about the program not being able to access them both now.

But when i made a shortcut, i didn't remove the "", they were never there.. (and manually put them around like this:

Quote:

"J:\FoldingGPU1\FAH5.91beta-console.exe" -gpu 0

then hitting apply insantly removes them again

and it's reading my GPU string correctly, as if i say run the 2nd one.. it'll correctly identify and run off the 2nd core.

Tipstaff · Nov 4, 2006, 03:55 AM

I'm not sure if it's the same with the GPU client, but for the CPU client you need to tell each client to run from the local directory they are in. So, say we have 2 clients:

Client 1: "J:\FoldingGPU1\FAH5.91beta-console.exe" -local -gpu 0"

Client 2: "J:\FoldingGPU2\FAH5.91beta-console.exe" -local -gpu 1"

This will force each client to run from their respective directories only, and there will be no overlap. If you don't all the clients will try to use the same folder, try to work on the same WU, and totally screw things up. Believe me on this one. First time I did this I lost a full 2,000,000 WU that was almost complete. Piiisssed me off.

Judas · Nov 4, 2006, 06:15 AM

Tipstaff, put those in.... removed work files from that were similare to that of the other folder BUT still detected a conflict

same message still showing up.

Nov 3, 2006, 05:42 AM	#67
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,660 Rep Power: 187 System Specs	BTW, guys, for those with multi-gpus (ie. Crossfire systems) you might want to take a look at the download page for a little surprise that just got uploaded: Windows XP GPU client console version (with multi-GPU support) 5.91 beta FAQ Multi-GPU FAQ __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

Nov 3, 2006, 08:05 PM	#74
Erroneus Get off my lawn! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 13,343 Rep Power: 114 System Specs	Cheat! How much faster is the console version over the GUI version, I'm talking about normal CPU here, anybody tested? __________________

Nov 4, 2006, 03:55 AM	#89
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,660 Rep Power: 187 System Specs	I'm not sure if it's the same with the GPU client, but for the CPU client you need to tell each client to run from the local directory they are in. So, say we have 2 clients: Client 1: "J:\FoldingGPU1\FAH5.91beta-console.exe" -local -gpu 0" Client 2: "J:\FoldingGPU2\FAH5.91beta-console.exe" -local -gpu 1" This will force each client to run from their respective directories only, and there will be no overlap. If you don't all the clients will try to use the same folder, try to work on the same WU, and totally screw things up. Believe me on this one. First time I did this I lost a full 2,000,000 WU that was almost complete. Piiisssed me off. __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

Nov 3, 2006, 01:26 AM	#61
dagski HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: :Cebu: Posts: 1,606 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	im folding atm. http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/m...page&username=[DH]dagski&teamnum=51394

Nov 3, 2006, 04:24 AM	#63
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Yay I got my first WU ever in my whole life done.. my PC actually did something worth while for a change!

Nov 3, 2006, 04:49 AM	#64
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,897 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	whoo hoo i made the list, guess it finally updated! nice to see th DH folk representing!

Nov 3, 2006, 04:58 AM	#65
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Yeah the site seems extremely unresponsive for some reason.. I even got a few errors saying too many connections try again later a few times. Before it was really fast though. Strange.

Nov 3, 2006, 05:59 AM	#68
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	hmmm...folding goes slow when doing a full virus scan

Nov 3, 2006, 06:10 AM	#69
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Woe - when you resize the GUI version's GUI window.. it shows all the molecules.. only when resizing though.. It flashes them across the screen in what looks like real time. Pretty crazy. EDIT- don't do it too long though, or it breaks the GUI display and you have to restart the folding program.

Nov 3, 2006, 06:35 AM	#70
~~werty316~~ BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 604 Rep Power: 0	Damn sweet comp for sure.

Nov 3, 2006, 10:19 PM	Thread Starter #75
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	worked first time for me judas, read the instructions better next time

Nov 3, 2006, 10:27 PM	#76
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	I don't think the WU time completion is an indication of anything.. My second WU frames were much lower than my first- but both had 500 frames. Now I am on my third WU, and there is only 250 frames, but the frames are averaging 8 minutes to 13 minutes per frame, where before they were around 3 minutes or less for the first WU, and 2 minutes or less for the 2nd WU. I think they are all just different. My second WU was done in about 11 hours or so, and this one seems like it will taker at least 2 days if not 3. This third one also seems to be doing mostly pairs, triples, or even quadruples of proteins or whatever it's simulation. Pretty cool looking stuff in the GUI.

Nov 3, 2006, 10:28 PM	Thread Starter #77
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	Ok ive had a few people asking why im not folding. so ive built a system specifically for this, comprising a quad core processor running one client and 2 GPU clients running two others (x1950s). Hopefully this helps

Nov 3, 2006, 11:33 PM	#84
ET3D Hopeless Dreamer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dreamland, near the pool of infinite graphics cards Posts: 3,055 Rep Power: 103 System Specs	I got the graphics GPU client working with no problems, but it made my work computer (X1900 GT) very unresponsive, so I stopped running it. Can't work that way. I downloaded the CPU version and I'm running it right now at home. Any chance this will run on the X1300 I won? BTW, that's a cool Sapphire card, not the normally drab ATI ones.

Nov 3, 2006, 11:40 PM	Thread Starter #86
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	judas you removed the quotations marks on the shortcut leading to the EXE - its not recognising the command for the GPU via the target link. and a single program cant take advantage of multi GPUS unless its programmed natively to do that, and remember you arent rendering a game screen with alternate frame rendering, you are directly accessing the core to run the whole program..........