Folding for HardwareHeaven

Zardon · Dec 1, 2006, 11:26 AM

Many times we have been asked to have a folding@home for HardwareHeaven and many times we have contemplated it. However our good friends at AMD/ATI have asked for our support so we are folding with them TEAM 51394.

To make yourself known as a HH member please fold within this team with a HH in front of your user name: example "HH-ZARDON" or "[HH]-Zardon".

As many of you may have seen, ATI recently introduced stream computing to the world (using the power of the graphics processor for something other than rendering 3D graphics).

The first major initiative of stream computing was a project with Stanford University called Folding@Home. Folding@Home uses the concept of distributed computing to use 100,000’s of PC systems to help simulate the process of folding proteins (many diseases/cancers are caused by proteins miss-folding). Stanford uses this data to try and better understand why proteins miss-fold and eventually work towards the goal of finding cures for diseases and cancers.

On October 2nd ATI released GPU customized version of the Folding@Home client that folds proteins 20-40 times faster than any modern CPU or non-ATI GPU, you can check out ATi's website for more details over here Like the CPU version of the Folding Client, the GPU client only runs when there are spare cycles available (i.e. when the CPU or GPU are sitting idle), so you don’t have to worry about the Folding client slowing down their systems when using it for work. Be sure to also check out Driver Heaven's coverage of the Stream Technology over here.

Go to the link here to download the Folding client: http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html

Regardless of whether you download the CPU or GPU version of the Folding@Home client – be sure to join the ATI team!! (team number 51394)

UPDATE: You can now fold with your playstation 3, and the good news is, the Cell processor kicks ASS with folding !

niceguyrichy · Dec 1, 2006, 11:34 AM

DH-richy here

thoroughly worthwise cause, a comp I didn't mind not winning for a change

Zardon · Dec 1, 2006, 11:35 AM

Well we should have more competitions to help spur the interest shortly, however we hope people will do it anyway regardless.

SFOSOK · Dec 1, 2006, 12:11 PM

I have no clue what folding is.

Erroneus · Dec 1, 2006, 12:55 PM

Read this part:

"Folding@Home uses the concept of distributed computing to use 100,000’s of PC systems to help simulate the process of folding proteins (many diseases/cancers are caused by proteins miss-folding). Stanford uses this data to try and better understand why proteins miss-fold and eventually work towards the goal of finding cures for diseases and cancers."

So you can actually help, just by folding on a single PC. I'm using my laptop for it, so it's always on, except for when I'm sleeping

**temeteus82** · Dec 1, 2006, 01:14 PM

[DH]Temeteus here

SFOSOK · Dec 1, 2006, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erroneus

Read this part:

"Folding@Home uses the concept of distributed computing to use 100,000’s of PC systems to help simulate the process of folding proteins (many diseases/cancers are caused by proteins miss-folding). Stanford uses this data to try and better understand why proteins miss-fold and eventually work towards the goal of finding cures for diseases and cancers."

So you can actually help, just by folding on a single PC. I'm using my laptop for it, so it's always on, except for when I'm sleeping

I read that, but it doesn't really explain or tell me what folding is. Only what folding at home does. Its frustrating also cause I don't know if its a program a website or what.

nerdrock · Dec 1, 2006, 01:40 PM

All i know, is folding protiens is clearly complicated as all hell, so they need our help to do it, for medical research. That's pretty cool, in my opinion. I see people running seti@home or whatever, and want to punch them in the face. There's no life in space that your computer is going to find, you retard, why don't you help humans here, instead?

Side note, does the folding client do a lot of network traffic? I want to install this on my machine at the office, and the only thing keeping me from doing so is the potential for too much internet traffic caused by it, cause it's at a premium right now. (Still enough to troll DH though)

**temeteus82** · Dec 1, 2006, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nerdrock

Side note, does the folding client do a lot of network traffic?

All I know is client uses net connection when it's finished WU and is uploading it and downloading new one.

SFOSOK · Dec 1, 2006, 02:31 PM

So everybody is doin something though no one has any clue what it does or what it is doing?

Vikingod · Dec 1, 2006, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nerdrock

All i know, is folding protiens is clearly complicated as all hell, so they need our help to do it, for medical research. That's pretty cool, in my opinion. I see people running seti@home or whatever, and want to punch them in the face. There's no life in space that your computer is going to find, you retard, why don't you help humans here, instead?

Side note, does the folding client do a lot of network traffic? I want to install this on my machine at the office, and the only thing keeping me from doing so is the potential for too much internet traffic caused by it, cause it's at a premium right now. (Still enough to troll DH though)

Nope, i've been monitoring mine at home, and from what I can tell, it only really communicates when sending or receiving projects (which you won't notice heavy traffic), and only happens once every few days. Short answer, it won't affect your network.

Also, for those who don't know what folding is. A quick definition is "a protein assuming its three dimentional functional shape" . The reason all the research is being focused on it is to help understand genetics chemistry, as well as disease research (neurodegenerative, cancer, even genetic). By simulating this process, its a way of testing the good and bad combinations and conditions of the process. Also, simulating the final shapes of proteins is very beneficial to drug research, and is very effective. more information is out there, maybe try looking for a wiki (this is mostly from my bio classes in college).

Iria · Dec 1, 2006, 04:23 PM

DH-Iria. Despite the fact it doesn't really take up many resources, I'm only using it on my work laptop. For gaming, I want as little running as possible.

pr0digal jenius · Dec 1, 2006, 10:02 PM

4 threads of it running ATM...hooray Xeons

great cause.

And SFOSOK....it maps out protein folding patterns and sends the data to Stanford, where they compile it in an attempt to figure out WHY they misfold, or, in laman's terms...what causes alzheimers or cancer

SFOSOK · Dec 2, 2006, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

4 threads of it running ATM...hooray Xeons

great cause.

And SFOSOK....it maps out protein folding patterns and sends the data to Stanford, where they compile it in an attempt to figure out WHY they misfold, or, in laman's terms...what causes alzheimers or cancer

That kinda makes a little bit more sense but it would seem better to use a few supercomputers or servers. Something meant more for this.

Zardon · Dec 2, 2006, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFOSOK

That kinda makes a little bit more sense but it would seem better to use a few supercomputers or servers. Something meant more for this.

Check this page out for a FAQ http://folding.stanford.edu/faq.html#project.folding. (and in answer to your question....

Why not just use a supercomputer? Modern supercomputers are essentially clusters of hundreds of processors linked by fast networking. The speed of these processors is comparable to (and often slower than) those found in PCs! Thus, if an algorithm (like ours) does not need the fast networking, it will run just as fast on a supercluster as a supercomputer. However, our application needs not the hundreds of processors found in modern supercomputers, but hundreds of thousands of processors. Hence, the calculations performed on Folding@Home would not be possible by any other means! Moreover, even if we were given exclusive access to all of the supercomputers in the world, we would still have fewer cycles than we do with the Folding@Home cluster! This is possible since PC processors are now very fast and there are hundreds of millions of PCs sitting idle in the world.

Brutality · Dec 2, 2006, 08:03 PM

Sweet. Signed meself up and those idling nights are now going to be folding nights. I'm glad I'm able to help those guys. Cancer FTL!!!
[DH]-Brutality

(read: I want X1900 card too :P )

mitchh · Dec 3, 2006, 07:10 PM

I'm in

DH_mitchh

Rawr · Dec 5, 2006, 12:17 AM

Still folding under DH_Rawr

wee017 · Dec 7, 2006, 07:34 PM

Been folding for about a week here, [DH]-wee017

Randomletters · Dec 8, 2006, 09:16 PM

[DH]-Randomletters

started the gpu client for the first time just now, glad they added x1600 support

swimtech · Dec 10, 2006, 06:39 AM

Really? I'll need to check that client out - thanks for that news Randomletters! Keep up the good work y'all! And would ya check out Tipstaff - wow! Kudos sir!

Tipstaff · Dec 10, 2006, 09:28 AM

Well, come Monday the server is off to it's new home (it's been reformated already). That means 4 processors less for processing. I highly doubt I'll be climbing any higher on the list. Infact, I think I'll be sliding backwards ever so slowly down it.

Oh well. It was fun while it lasted.

Peter123 · Dec 21, 2006, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

Many times we have been asked to have a folding @ home for Driver Heaven and many times we have contemplated it. However our good friends at AMD/ATI have asked for our support so we are folding with them TEAM 51394.

To make yourself known as a DH member please fold within this team with a DH in front of your user name: example "DH-ZARDON" or "[DH]-Zardon".

Regardless of whether you download the CPU or GPU version of the Folding@Home client – be sure to join the ATI team!! (team number 51394)

I just found out that the Folding@Home stats site FahStats can do "subteams". The way it works is that the folding names of those on the subteam must have as part of their folding name, the name of the subteam in square brackets - in our case [DH]
As we can't move points from any team/subteam/folding name, for those that don't have [DH] in their folding name would need a new folding name (and 0 points). Their existing folding name with its points will still be part of the ATI team in any case.
I'm not sure if other stats sites will start supporting that format for subteams, but that seems to be the way to go.

So for me, I'll be starting to folding under [DH]-Peter123 (not a big deal for me as I only have completed a few WUs under DH_Peter123).

Here are the stats links:
ATI Team showing subteams
DH subteam list (those that are already using the [DH] subteam name as part of their folding name)

Anyway, my suggestion is to adjust the official format for folding names in our subteam to follow [DH]-FoldingName format.
This looks like a great way to see how our subteam is doing and can only help for adding new members to our subteam!

RoyBatty · Mar 26, 2007, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutality

read: I want X1900 card too :P

X1900? Where? I see "collectors edition" X800 in Zardon's announcement...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter123

...subteams...

I don't think I'm going to change my folding name just to show up in some subteam stats list.

Calinerti · Mar 26, 2007, 07:31 PM

Why arent all the DH team members listed in the subteam?

RoyBatty · Mar 26, 2007, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calinerti

Why arent all the DH team members listed in the subteam?

Remove the "[]" characters from the "Member name contains" field.

Geminiwave · Mar 27, 2007, 12:03 AM

hey so my name is DH_Geminiwave

does that work or do i have to change it to make it work in the subteam?

man I've had this thing running since last competition but for some reason I cant get it working on both cores. I went through the instructions and the FAQ but the second client just will NOT run

dsdsdk · Mar 27, 2007, 12:18 AM

DH-dsdsdk

new to folding.. :-)

Lelisevis · Mar 27, 2007, 01:14 AM

Wonder what affect hundreds of thousands of computers running with 100% CPU and GPU load has on energy use and global warming LMAO. PS3's and PC's can be thirsty beasts, they can also increase the temperature of a room causing your air-con to run harder. Oh the decisions.

Customgamer1 · Mar 27, 2007, 03:48 AM

I am in

DH Customgamer1

Dec 1, 2006, 11:26 AM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Folding for HardwareHeaven Many times we have been asked to have a folding@home for HardwareHeaven and many times we have contemplated it. However our good friends at AMD/ATI have asked for our support so we are folding with them TEAM 51394. To make yourself known as a HH member please fold within this team with a HH in front of your user name: example "HH-ZARDON" or "[HH]-Zardon". As many of you may have seen, ATI recently introduced stream computing to the world (using the power of the graphics processor for something other than rendering 3D graphics). The first major initiative of stream computing was a project with Stanford University called Folding@Home. Folding@Home uses the concept of distributed computing to use 100,000’s of PC systems to help simulate the process of folding proteins (many diseases/cancers are caused by proteins miss-folding). Stanford uses this data to try and better understand why proteins miss-fold and eventually work towards the goal of finding cures for diseases and cancers. On October 2nd ATI released GPU customized version of the Folding@Home client that folds proteins 20-40 times faster than any modern CPU or non-ATI GPU, you can check out ATi's website for more details over here Like the CPU version of the Folding Client, the GPU client only runs when there are spare cycles available (i.e. when the CPU or GPU are sitting idle), so you don’t have to worry about the Folding client slowing down their systems when using it for work. Be sure to also check out Driver Heaven's coverage of the Stream Technology over here. Go to the link here to download the Folding client: http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html Regardless of whether you download the CPU or GPU version of the Folding@Home client – be sure to join the ATI team!! (team number 51394) UPDATE: You can now fold with your playstation 3, and the good news is, the Cell processor kicks ASS with folding !

Dec 1, 2006, 12:11 PM	#4
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	I have no clue what folding is. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Dec 1, 2006, 12:55 PM	#5
Erroneus Get off my lawn! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 13,417 Rep Power: 119 System Specs	Read this part: "Folding@Home uses the concept of distributed computing to use 100,000’s of PC systems to help simulate the process of folding proteins (many diseases/cancers are caused by proteins miss-folding). Stanford uses this data to try and better understand why proteins miss-fold and eventually work towards the goal of finding cures for diseases and cancers." So you can actually help, just by folding on a single PC. I'm using my laptop for it, so it's always on, except for when I'm sleeping __________________

Dec 1, 2006, 01:40 PM	#8
nerdrock DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Western NY Posts: 99 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	All i know, is folding protiens is clearly complicated as all hell, so they need our help to do it, for medical research. That's pretty cool, in my opinion. I see people running seti@home or whatever, and want to punch them in the face. There's no life in space that your computer is going to find, you retard, why don't you help humans here, instead? Side note, does the folding client do a lot of network traffic? I want to install this on my machine at the office, and the only thing keeping me from doing so is the potential for too much internet traffic caused by it, cause it's at a premium right now. (Still enough to troll DH though) __________________ Old signature rendered obsolete by fancy new forum code!

Dec 1, 2006, 02:31 PM	#10
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	So everybody is doin something though no one has any clue what it does or what it is doing? __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Dec 1, 2006, 11:35 AM	Thread Starter #3
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Well we should have more competitions to help spur the interest shortly, however we hope people will do it anyway regardless.

Dec 1, 2006, 04:23 PM	#12
Iria DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7,275 Rep Power: 89	DH-Iria. Despite the fact it doesn't really take up many resources, I'm only using it on my work laptop. For gaming, I want as little running as possible.

Dec 1, 2006, 10:02 PM	#13
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	4 threads of it running ATM...hooray Xeons great cause. And SFOSOK....it maps out protein folding patterns and sends the data to Stanford, where they compile it in an attempt to figure out WHY they misfold, or, in laman's terms...what causes alzheimers or cancer

Dec 2, 2006, 08:03 PM	#16
Brutality DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Estonia Posts: 887 Rep Power: 0	Sweet. Signed meself up and those idling nights are now going to be folding nights. I'm glad I'm able to help those guys. Cancer FTL!!! [DH]-Brutality (read: I want X1900 card too :P )

Dec 3, 2006, 07:10 PM	#17
mitchh DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wauwatosa Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	I'm in DH_mitchh

Dec 5, 2006, 12:17 AM	#18
Rawr DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 97 Rep Power: 0	Still folding under DH_Rawr __________________ Aspire Silver Turbo Case w/ 6 80mm fans 650w BFG Tech PSU MSi K9A2 Platinum Athlon 64 X2 6000+ 3.0Ghz WD 80Gig 8MB Cache (Windows / Games) WD 200Gig 8MB Cache (Media Drive) Sapphire Toxic HD4850 675 mhz / 1100 mhz 4 Gig Corsair CM2X2048-6400C5 DDR2

Dec 7, 2006, 07:34 PM	#19
wee017 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Behind you. Posts: 241 Rep Power: 0	Been folding for about a week here, [DH]-wee017

Dec 8, 2006, 09:16 PM	#20
Randomletters ))<>(( Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,418 Rep Power: 54	[DH]-Randomletters started the gpu client for the first time just now, glad they added x1600 support __________________ <----------- Sexy Budget Rig stats to the left.

Dec 10, 2006, 06:39 AM	#21
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Really? I'll need to check that client out - thanks for that news Randomletters! Keep up the good work y'all! And would ya check out Tipstaff - wow! Kudos sir! __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Dec 10, 2006, 09:28 AM	#22
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,773 Rep Power: 190 System Specs	Well, come Monday the server is off to it's new home (it's been reformated already). That means 4 processors less for processing. I highly doubt I'll be climbing any higher on the list. Infact, I think I'll be sliding backwards ever so slowly down it. Oh well. It was fun while it lasted. __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

Mar 26, 2007, 07:31 PM	#25
Calinerti DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Elysium Posts: 330 Rep Power: 0	Why arent all the DH team members listed in the subteam?

Mar 27, 2007, 12:03 AM	#27
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 63	hey so my name is DH_Geminiwave does that work or do i have to change it to make it work in the subteam? man I've had this thing running since last competition but for some reason I cant get it working on both cores. I went through the instructions and the FAQ but the second client just will NOT run __________________

Mar 27, 2007, 12:18 AM	#28
dsdsdk DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Denmark, CPH. Posts: 586 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	DH-dsdsdk new to folding.. :-) __________________ No more Kitty!

Mar 27, 2007, 01:14 AM	#29
Lelisevis Howlin at the moon Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,663 Rep Power: 0	Wonder what affect hundreds of thousands of computers running with 100% CPU and GPU load has on energy use and global warming LMAO. PS3's and PC's can be thirsty beasts, they can also increase the temperature of a room causing your air-con to run harder. Oh the decisions.

Mar 27, 2007, 03:48 AM	#30
Customgamer1 Fell off the tech wagon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,273 Rep Power: 74 System Specs	I am in DH Customgamer1 __________________ Asus Laptop: 2.5 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4gigs DDR 2, Windows 7 64bit! Windows 7 > OSX!