Battle for Middleearth 2

Zardon · Feb 26, 2006, 05:26 PM

Anyone else played this yet? I loved the first, this is shaping up well in my limited time playing it with some of the best animations ive seen in an RTS game (if you select top in the options).

Also the water effects deserve special mention.

Sandok · Feb 26, 2006, 05:29 PM

I really disliked the first so... I dunno I might give this a try...

Dark Lord · Feb 26, 2006, 05:33 PM

i played the demo and liked it. wasnt enough for me to rush out and buy it, but if i can find it for 20 bucks or so ill probably pick it up.

mkk · Feb 26, 2006, 08:08 PM

The demo looked promising so I'll definitely try the game out. Hope the "create your own hero" is a fun part. Give us some full quality screens in the meantime.

Mayro · Feb 26, 2006, 11:29 PM

Anyone else running into issues were when useing a 9800 pro, that, the shadows turn to that craptasticaly wonderfull pixle shadows like those found in NFSMW?

I used both the full option on shaders and the 3/4 option and on ither setting, the shadows still look like im in MSpain doing a pixle pushing project lol.

Is this a game or ATI problem... this is another game to add to the list of pixleatedshadows.

Zardon · Feb 26, 2006, 11:33 PM

the shadows are pretty rough but they looked the same on the 7800 I tested it with......

Mayro · Feb 27, 2006, 01:00 AM

can you post a picture of what you see in game? Possible on the 2nd tutorial? I notice the pixleation the most on the shadows of the tower.

~~Alien1~~ · Feb 27, 2006, 11:27 AM

I did not liked the 1st so much (except the music and the graphics)

The single player part was just boring skirmishes nothing to do with the Tolkien story while the multiplayer was repeative (plus some units were totally unbalanced)

I hope 2 is better these time

crapman777 · Feb 27, 2006, 11:49 AM

BFME2 was designed to be a total single player experience, and yes it really does need a good graphics card to run, but thats if you want all the eye candy.
I look forward to playing with alot of the other different races.

thewall · Feb 27, 2006, 02:32 PM

Some screens and yes, shadows are crap.

~~Alien1~~ · Feb 27, 2006, 03:31 PM

Does these happen only in ATI cards ??

Or with Nvidia cards as well

From the Screenshots the game looks nice

I just hope the Single player part has Story-based missions these time based on the Tolkien books not just skirmishes in a map to conquer the Middle Earth

If you played the BFME 1 SP campaign probably you know what i mean

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Originally Posted by crapman777

BFME2 was designed to be a total single player experience,

Zardon · Feb 27, 2006, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayro

can you post a picture of what you see in game? Possible on the 2nd tutorial? I notice the pixleation the most on the shadows of the tower.

Im sorry, right now I honestly dont have time but both cards gave the same shadows. I noticed it specifically on the tree shadows but it didnt really bother me and after I while I forgot all about it. Guess im not quite as picky as some of you

thewall · Feb 27, 2006, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien1

Does these happen only in ATI cards ??

Or with Nvidia cards as well

Screens above are taken with 2x7800GTX in SLI.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Feb 27, 2006, 05:54 PM

it doesnt look that much better.... they never really had a navy in the movies so i dont think it was necessary. how would it perform on my system? the first one wasnt bad at all on my 9700 pro, and i bet ill get EA's beautiful soft shadows bug!

Mayro · Feb 27, 2006, 11:15 PM

I guess I cant complain considering im useing a 9800 pro and run this game at the max settings... why it ever tryed to set me so low ill never know as I get good FPS on max.

SFOSOK · Feb 28, 2006, 04:26 AM

Man that game was ugly. I didn't like too much bout it, just the menu bars.

~~Alien1~~ · Mar 1, 2006, 10:20 PM

Well i just played the Demo (the 2 tutorials and the Skirmish)

I liked it so i will buy it

Man the Balrog and the Dragon in Goblins are some Awesome Bonus Units. Bringing Havok to their path

And the AI is pretty good (in medium)
A little cheater always trying attacking the buildings that provide resources to the player first

From the other hand the Dwarfs are a little how can i say...boring
Most of their ordinary units are more powerfull from the goblins but they are not so impressive

Note
I also noticed these problem with the shadows in the Demo

EA has already released patch 1.01 for BFME 2 (not for the Demo) fixing the Desync problems (?) and some stability issues

Also they are going for patch 1.02 according to their forums

woodworker420 · Mar 3, 2006, 01:35 AM

Correct me if i am wrong, but I believe that it was released March 1/06.

~~Alien1~~ · Mar 3, 2006, 01:52 PM

It is March 3 and still has not been released in stores in here

In some if not all European countries takes a little longer i guess

Well from some reviews for BFME2 that i read the Single part of the game does not even touch the books or the movies unfortunately
It's better from BFME (1) but still nothing Epic

EA always gives priority to multiplayer battles and less to anything that has to do with Single player (Big Campaigns , Strong Story with interesting missions etc)

OmegaRED · Mar 12, 2006, 09:03 PM

The final campaign for evil was loads of fun but kinda easy. Is it possible to build Mumakill in campaign?

~~Alien1~~ · Mar 13, 2006, 12:10 AM

^ No in the Evil campaign you can not build Mumakills

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For some reason the AI in the playable demo was way more challenging

The campaign in the final retail game was so easy

I have finished both the Evil and the Good campaigns in medium difficulty
The Ai was just making pathetic rush attacks or just didn't do nothing waiting like a duck for the player to attack in most of the missions..i was expecting a better Single player experience

Anyway i enjoyed the Campaign game maps as they were awesome in detail

I am going to play with the War of the Ring now

OmegaRED · Mar 13, 2006, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien1

^ No in the Evil campaign you can not build Mumakills

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For some reason the AI in the playable demo was way more challenging

The campaign in the final retail game was so easy

I have finished both the Evil and the Good campaigns in medium difficulty
The Ai was just making pathetic rush attacks or just didn't do nothing waiting like a duck for the player to attack in most of the missions..i was expecting a better Single player experience

Anyway i enjoyed the Campaign game maps as they were awesome in detail

I am going to play with the War of the Ring now

I feel the same way, no matter how badly I attacked the enemy would just throw themselves at me. In the final evil mission it was cool to see so many good heroes in action but I killed them easily.

Haven't tried War of the Ring yet, is it basically the same as the campaign of BFME 1 with the conquering of each territory?

Duranix · Mar 13, 2006, 12:27 AM

For the people saying it doesnt tie in with the book.. .Your wrong!

The campain is set more north, to what is happening to the dwarves. In the books, nothing really happened to the Dwarves, and the only ones you really knew was Gimly.

So yeah, this focuses more on the more northern part of the war. And NO, they did not just make this up on the spot.

daedal · Mar 13, 2006, 01:02 AM

Just started playing this. Not too impressed with it so far I'm afraid but it's still too early to tell. Runs pretty decently on my system though so that's good.

Feb 26, 2006, 05:26 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Battle for Middleearth 2 Anyone else played this yet? I loved the first, this is shaping up well in my limited time playing it with some of the best animations ive seen in an RTS game (if you select top in the options). Also the water effects deserve special mention.

Feb 26, 2006, 05:33 PM	#3
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 125 System Specs	i played the demo and liked it. wasnt enough for me to rush out and buy it, but if i can find it for 20 bucks or so ill probably pick it up. __________________

Feb 27, 2006, 11:27 AM	#8
~~Alien1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 365 Rep Power: 0	I did not liked the 1st so much (except the music and the graphics) The single player part was just boring skirmishes nothing to do with the Tolkien story while the multiplayer was repeative (plus some units were totally unbalanced) I hope 2 is better these time Last edited by Alien1; Feb 27, 2006 at 11:34 AM.

Feb 27, 2006, 05:54 PM	#14
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	it doesnt look that much better.... they never really had a navy in the movies so i dont think it was necessary. how would it perform on my system? the first one wasnt bad at all on my 9700 pro, and i bet ill get EA's beautiful soft shadows bug! __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Feb 28, 2006, 04:26 AM	#16
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Man that game was ugly. I didn't like too much bout it, just the menu bars. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Feb 26, 2006, 05:29 PM	#2
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	I really disliked the first so... I dunno I might give this a try...

Feb 26, 2006, 08:08 PM	#4
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,490 Rep Power: 132 System Specs	The demo looked promising so I'll definitely try the game out. Hope the "create your own hero" is a fun part. Give us some full quality screens in the meantime.

Feb 26, 2006, 11:29 PM	#5
Mayro -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 173 Rep Power: 0	Anyone else running into issues were when useing a 9800 pro, that, the shadows turn to that craptasticaly wonderfull pixle shadows like those found in NFSMW? I used both the full option on shaders and the 3/4 option and on ither setting, the shadows still look like im in MSpain doing a pixle pushing project lol. Is this a game or ATI problem... this is another game to add to the list of pixleatedshadows.

Feb 26, 2006, 11:33 PM	Thread Starter #6
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	the shadows are pretty rough but they looked the same on the 7800 I tested it with......

Feb 27, 2006, 01:00 AM	#7
Mayro -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 173 Rep Power: 0	can you post a picture of what you see in game? Possible on the 2nd tutorial? I notice the pixleation the most on the shadows of the tower.

Feb 27, 2006, 11:49 AM	#9
crapman777 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 158 Rep Power: 0	BFME2 was designed to be a total single player experience, and yes it really does need a good graphics card to run, but thats if you want all the eye candy. I look forward to playing with alot of the other different races.

Feb 27, 2006, 02:32 PM	#10
thewall DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	Some screens and yes, shadows are crap.

Feb 27, 2006, 11:15 PM	#15
Mayro -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 173 Rep Power: 0	I guess I cant complain considering im useing a 9800 pro and run this game at the max settings... why it ever tryed to set me so low ill never know as I get good FPS on max.

Mar 1, 2006, 10:20 PM	#17
~~Alien1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 365 Rep Power: 0	Well i just played the Demo (the 2 tutorials and the Skirmish) I liked it so i will buy it Man the Balrog and the Dragon in Goblins are some Awesome Bonus Units. Bringing Havok to their path And the AI is pretty good (in medium) A little cheater always trying attacking the buildings that provide resources to the player first From the other hand the Dwarfs are a little how can i say...boring Most of their ordinary units are more powerfull from the goblins but they are not so impressive Note I also noticed these problem with the shadows in the Demo EA has already released patch 1.01 for BFME 2 (not for the Demo) fixing the Desync problems (?) and some stability issues Also they are going for patch 1.02 according to their forums Last edited by Alien1; Mar 1, 2006 at 10:43 PM.

Mar 3, 2006, 01:35 AM	#18
woodworker420 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	Correct me if i am wrong, but I believe that it was released March 1/06. __________________ [color=#5e8698] [/color]

Mar 3, 2006, 01:52 PM	#19
~~Alien1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 365 Rep Power: 0	It is March 3 and still has not been released in stores in here In some if not all European countries takes a little longer i guess Well from some reviews for BFME2 that i read the Single part of the game does not even touch the books or the movies unfortunately It's better from BFME (1) but still nothing Epic EA always gives priority to multiplayer battles and less to anything that has to do with Single player (Big Campaigns , Strong Story with interesting missions etc)

Mar 12, 2006, 09:03 PM	#20
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	The final campaign for evil was loads of fun but kinda easy. Is it possible to build Mumakill in campaign? __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Mar 13, 2006, 12:10 AM	#21
~~Alien1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 365 Rep Power: 0	^ No in the Evil campaign you can not build Mumakills -------------------------------- For some reason the AI in the playable demo was way more challenging The campaign in the final retail game was so easy I have finished both the Evil and the Good campaigns in medium difficulty The Ai was just making pathetic rush attacks or just didn't do nothing waiting like a duck for the player to attack in most of the missions..i was expecting a better Single player experience Anyway i enjoyed the Campaign game maps as they were awesome in detail I am going to play with the War of the Ring now

Mar 13, 2006, 12:27 AM	#23
Duranix DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 614 Rep Power: 0	For the people saying it doesnt tie in with the book.. .Your wrong! The campain is set more north, to what is happening to the dwarves. In the books, nothing really happened to the Dwarves, and the only ones you really knew was Gimly. So yeah, this focuses more on the more northern part of the war. And NO, they did not just make this up on the spot. __________________

Mar 13, 2006, 01:02 AM	#24
daedal Uber Coffee Drinker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gatineau, Quebec Posts: 2,250 Rep Power: 0	Just started playing this. Not too impressed with it so far I'm afraid but it's still too early to tell. Runs pretty decently on my system though so that's good. __________________