OBLIVION: Game Experience and Opinions

Partizan · Mar 23, 2006, 01:37 PM

Damn Bethesda. I am going to sue them. Because of oblivion I slept only 2 hours, and then visited a friend to help him setup his machine for oblivion, and when I drove out of his drive I scratched my front bumper

crap, going to bed now and then play some more

Zardon · Mar 23, 2006, 03:20 PM

I installed it last night for a look, have to say its a system killer on maxxed settings. only card I tested capable of running it at 1920x1200 with every option at the max was an overclocked X1900XTx .

Graphics are very impressive but i have to say in the short time (15 minutes) I played it, the combat looked poor. hack, slash, block. Obviously this could well change when I put more time into it, just a quick observation.

Vikingod · Mar 23, 2006, 03:26 PM

Tonight I'm going to figure out how to set the POV to 90 in the .ini file (if someone has done it, post the information please). I played till 1:30 last night, I can't remember the last time I lost sleep for video games.

If you are an nVidia user, you really should install the 84.25 drivers that came out yesterday. I was able to bump all my setting up a few notches and still get better performance. It also fixes an issue I was having with ugly shadows on the faces of characters. There is a slight drop in IQ, but the performance and ability to bump your settings up cancel it out.

On a side note, has anyone else gone into the painting yet? I thought that was so cool, and a nice use of shaders. (Don't post spoilers, please)

goingtojapan · Mar 23, 2006, 03:58 PM

sure its a good game and it looks great, but i kinda hate it, simply not my cup of tea, if i play RPG they have to have substance and be more linear like final fantasy

Partizan · Mar 23, 2006, 04:03 PM

I am kinda dissapointed because of a dumb user interface. It's console like. The one in Morrowind was way better.

And my max fps outdoors is 40 when there is no grass around. As big Z said, it's a real graphic card killer game.

Regards, Partizan

riles9262 · Mar 23, 2006, 04:38 PM

Ouch, this game kills my machine, and is the first one to really do so. I have to drop to 1024x768 with either large or medium texture pack (large there's a little stuttering, medium is smooth like butter) and af only, no aa. It looks awesome though, and i'm really liking the game so far. My 9800 is finally starting to show its age in a big way. Like others have mentioned, the user interface is iffy; on the whole, I like morrowind's better...

Pluvious · Mar 23, 2006, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikingod

Tonight I'm going to figure out how to set the POV to 90 in the .ini file (if someone has done it, post the information please).

After reading this I checked into it and found in the main folder the file Oblivion_default.ini file. Open it, and scroll down until you see the [display] paragraph. Look for the line :

fDefaultFOV=75.0000

and make it whatever you want. I also found the Oblivion.ini file in My Documents/My Games/Oblivion needs to be changed as well.

EDIT: this doesn't work for some reason.. it makes the whole game have fov 95 not just the viewpoint. You'll have to manually put in FOV xx whenever it snaps back to 75. The up arrow will retype what you last typed so its pretty quick to redo...just a hassle.

topbob · Mar 23, 2006, 06:26 PM

this game is great, yesterday i joined the theives guild and the dark brotherhood
as being a theif class, you have to do some pretty unique attacking moves due to the fact you get liquified when strong characters melee you, kinda like a rogue in WoW, but ill be damned if rogues in wow ever did this much damage with bows
although i do have a few complaints after playing it for the past two days
the voice acting it great, but sometimes its the exact same guy/girl on every other character, doesnt sound right, and also if you talk to some characters they'll start with one voice and suddenly change to another.
also i dont know if its just me but some times quest triggers dont get activated when they should, i have to run around, enter and exit a build and come back for it to get going.

Dyre Straits · Mar 23, 2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

I installed it last night for a look, have to say its a system killer on maxxed settings. only card I tested capable of running it at 1920x1200 with every option at the max was an overclocked X1900XTx .

Graphics are very impressive but i have to say in the short time (15 minutes) I played it, the combat looked poor. hack, slash, block. Obviously this could well change when I put more time into it, just a quick observation.

Z, this is by design at lower skill levels. You achieve more moves as you raise your skill levels.

Dyre Straits · Mar 23, 2006, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikingod

Tonight I'm going to figure out how to set the POV to 90 in the .ini file (if someone has done it, post the information please). I played till 1:30 last night, I can't remember the last time I lost sleep for video games.

If you are an nVidia user, you really should install the 84.25 drivers that came out yesterday. I was able to bump all my setting up a few notches and still get better performance. It also fixes an issue I was having with ugly shadows on the faces of characters. There is a slight drop in IQ, but the performance and ability to bump your settings up cancel it out.

[color=red]On a side note, has anyone else gone into the painting yet?[/color] I thought that was so cool, and a nice use of shaders. (Don't post spoilers, please)

I have. And, I have a screenshot, too.

Partizan · Mar 23, 2006, 08:10 PM

That thing with FOV works. Game looks better, it just screws ingame menus abit.

I don't know. The first impressions of the game were WOW. But now I don't know. I think I am gonna replay Gothic2 with the addon.

Regards, Partizan

Dyre Straits · Mar 23, 2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Partizan

That thing with FOV works. Game looks better, it just screws ingame menus abit.

I don't know. The first impressions of the game were WOW. But now I don't know. I think I am gonna replay Gothic2 with the addon.

Regards, Partizan

If you're not the type of gamer who gets immersed in the story, you could lose interest in a HUGE wide-open game like OBLIVION.

For me, however, I can't play 'frag-fest' games for very long. That's mainly why I don't get involved in MP online games much. I like to take it at my own pace.

For those who haven't played it very long, the story does start getting interesting after you visit a few more towns and villages.

Also, I love that HORSE! I have been galloping from place to place and it looks great.

ferret2004 · Mar 23, 2006, 09:22 PM

I just got the xbox360 version and will begin playing shortly

Mayro · Mar 23, 2006, 09:35 PM

There will be a computer patch to not only address things that should have been included in this main release, like the programer linking the function of /save INSERT A FRIKIN NAME HERE to name your save games.... which works in console BTW, and also redoing the inventroy.

They are also adding full support for the xbox 360 controller

Dyre Straits · Mar 23, 2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayro

There will be a computer patch to not only address things that should have been included in this main release, like the programer linking the function of /save INSERT A FRIKIN NAME HERE to name your save games.... which works in console BTW, and also redoing the inventroy.

They are also adding full support for the xbox 360 controller

That all sounds really good.

Exactly how do they plan to improve the Inventory? I know it was much better in MW, but, after several hours of playing, I'm not finding it all that cumbersome now. It just takes some getting used to.

dipstick · Mar 23, 2006, 09:49 PM

I've noticed something weird with the frame rate where it will drop for no reason(outside) but if I bring up the inventory screen and exit back into the game its back to normal again. Other than that playing at 1900/HDR/8xHQAF is very sweet. If ATi can squeeze out just a couple more fps ill be extremely happy. Great game overall and its got me hooked like a fish

Dark Lord · Mar 23, 2006, 09:50 PM

just got the game and am installing it now

Dyre Straits · Mar 23, 2006, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dipstick

I've noticed something weird with the frame rate where it will drop for no reason(outside) but if I bring up the inventory screen and exit back into the game its back to normal again. Other than that playing at 1900/HDR/8xHQAF is very sweet. If ATi can squeeze out just a couple more fps ill be extremely happy. Great game overall and its got me hooked like a fish

I've noticed it, too. I think it has something to do with the way they designed the LOADING of the graphics. If I simply stop and look at things for a few seconds, things go back to normal FPS.

I'm mostly seeing FPS from 35 - 70.

Lowfat · Mar 23, 2006, 10:22 PM

Definately a good game, and i absolutely love combat. WAY better than the previous 3 TES'.

However this game is a system killer like said previously. With my 630 @ 3.9GHz, 2GB of DDR700, and my X850XT @ 560/560 i still can only run the game @ 1024X768, large textures, no AA.

Zardon · Mar 23, 2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyre Straits

Z, this is by design at lower skill levels. You achieve more moves as you raise your skill levels.

Yeah ive heard it gets better as you move on in the game, problem is I think this game requires A LOT of play to get the most from it. I doubt ill get the time. I just got to the point where im looking for the son and im on a horse (not very far in at all). i spent like 10 minutes riding around following the arrow. quite boring to this point I have to be honest, but im sure its better as you move into the game. I much preferred fable (so far).

Zardon · Mar 23, 2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lowfat

Definately a good game, and i absolutely love combat. WAY better than the previous 3 TES'.

However this game is a system killer like said previously. With my 630 @ 3.9GHz, 2GB of DDR700, and my X850XT @ 560/560 i still can only run the game @ 1024X768, large textures, no AA.

yeah you really need a X1900XTx to get the most from this title. ive tried it with 4 cards now, most of them need quite a bit turned down and lower resolutions ....

riles9262 · Mar 23, 2006, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

yeah you really need a X1900XTx to get the most from this title. ive tried it with 4 cards now, most of them need quite a bit turned down and lower resolutions ....

Which cards did you test in particular zardon (besides the x1900)? Since i'll likely be basing my next card around this game, it would be cool to get some feedback on what you and others have experienced as far as what iq and resolution settings that performed reasonably...

I'll probably purchase in the performance-mainstream category, so if none of those cards today do this game justice, then i'll stay with what i've got till next gen.

Zardon · Mar 23, 2006, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by riles9262

Which cards did you test in particular zardon (besides the x1900)? Since i'll likely be basing my next card around this game, it would be cool to get some feedback on what you and others have experienced as far as what iq and resolution settings that performed reasonably...

I'll probably purchase in the performance-mainstream category, so if none of those cards today do this game justice, then i'll stay with what i've got till next gen.

Well I would really need to have ran thorough tests on specific sections to start quoting FPS results per card, but I can give you a rough idea.

(this is with a 4.2ghz P4 and 2 gig of DDR2 - dont have an FX system built atm - in parts) - worth mentioning ive noticed some further gains with a 10k, 16 meg cache raptor X hard drive, as it loads the sections much faster, slowdowns seem less obvious. loads are actually virtually instant with a slight "shudder" rather than a 1-2 second virtual lock out with an ordinary HD.

X1900XTx - stock clocks 1920x1200 (NO AA with HDR - max AF), every setting maxxed in game - runs perfectly fine most of the time - some slow downs - overclocked to 690core and 800mhz ram smooths this out quite dramatically. im almost certain the 512 meg of ram is helping too but id need to research this more to confirm.

7800GTX asus card - runs the title fine to 1600x1200 with a few options lowered, such as draw distance.

X850XT - 1280 with most settings maxxed. draw distance lowered a little to help in "busy" sections.

Dark Lord · Mar 23, 2006, 11:08 PM

is any one else have problems with these god awful menus? i swear, its a damn guessing game as to where the menu buttons are. i just spent almost 10 mins trying to get into my inventory, and guess what? clicking on the fist does nothing. i was click about 3/4s of an inch up and to the right of the menu before i found it.

Zardon · Mar 23, 2006, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord

i just spent almost 10 mins trying to get into my inventory, .

Doesnt hitting the TAB key take you into the inventory right away?

Zardon · Mar 23, 2006, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by riles9262

I'll probably purchase in the performance-mainstream category, so if none of those cards today do this game justice, then i'll stay with what i've got till next gen.

If you can budget for a X1900XTx series card it really is the way to go with this game. I notice it doesnt take quite as large a hit with HDR as the nvidia board I have. and really once you see this game running with HDR you will be amazed how "ordinary" it looks without it on ! quite spectacular use of HDR ingame.

Partizan · Mar 23, 2006, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord

is any one else have problems with these god awful menus? i swear, its a damn guessing game as to where the menu buttons are. i just spent almost 10 mins trying to get into my inventory, and guess what? clicking on the fist does nothing. i was click about 3/4s of an inch up and to the right of the menu before i found it.

Set FOV back to 75. I had had the same problem after setting FOV to 90. The game looks much better with 90 though.

riles9262 · Mar 23, 2006, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

If you can budget for a X1900XTx series card it really is the way to go with this game. I notice it doesnt take quite as large a hit with HDR as the nvidia board I have. and really once you see this game running with HDR you will be amazed how "ordinary" it looks without it on ! quite spectacular use of HDR ingame.

Thanks a lot for the information here and in your previous post zardon. The rough explanation you gave was perfect

Well, with that, i think I will wait for a while on a new card, or at least the x1900 series comes down a bit in price.

Dyre Straits · Mar 24, 2006, 12:21 AM

See my Post #8 to get a little idea of how the present Inventory Menu works:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/gaming-discussion/102108-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-tips-help-hardware-thread.html

Mayro · Mar 24, 2006, 01:02 AM

The thing im hateing about this game, is that if you want to be really good, the charecter you make should basicaly make any skill you care about be a minor skill. Leveling in this game is a bad thing. When you level, every thing else levels and unless you have leveled correctly, you wont get any bonus and instead of making stuff easyer when you level, you have just made them harder.

Mar 23, 2006, 01:37 PM	#61
Partizan Fun loving criminal Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 1,182 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	Damn Bethesda. I am going to sue them. Because of oblivion I slept only 2 hours, and then visited a friend to help him setup his machine for oblivion, and when I drove out of his drive I scratched my front bumper crap, going to bed now and then play some more __________________ Live and let live!

Mar 23, 2006, 03:26 PM	#63
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,187 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Tonight I'm going to figure out how to set the POV to 90 in the .ini file (if someone has done it, post the information please). I played till 1:30 last night, I can't remember the last time I lost sleep for video games. If you are an nVidia user, you really should install the 84.25 drivers that came out yesterday. I was able to bump all my setting up a few notches and still get better performance. It also fixes an issue I was having with ugly shadows on the faces of characters. There is a slight drop in IQ, but the performance and ability to bump your settings up cancel it out. On a side note, has anyone else gone into the painting yet? I thought that was so cool, and a nice use of shaders. (Don't post spoilers, please) __________________ *How You Can Help DriverHeaven By Using Digg*

Mar 23, 2006, 04:03 PM	#65
Partizan Fun loving criminal Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 1,182 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	I am kinda dissapointed because of a dumb user interface. It's console like. The one in Morrowind was way better. And my max fps outdoors is 40 when there is no grass around. As big Z said, it's a real graphic card killer game. Regards, Partizan __________________ Live and let live!

Mar 23, 2006, 04:38 PM	#66
riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,842 Rep Power: 70 System Specs	Ouch, this game kills my machine, and is the first one to really do so. I have to drop to 1024x768 with either large or medium texture pack (large there's a little stuttering, medium is smooth like butter) and af only, no aa. It looks awesome though, and i'm really liking the game so far. My 9800 is finally starting to show its age in a big way. Like others have mentioned, the user interface is iffy; on the whole, I like morrowind's better... __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.

Mar 23, 2006, 06:26 PM	#68
topbob HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SFBA, CA, USA Posts: 463 Rep Power: 46 System Specs	this game is great, yesterday i joined the theives guild and the dark brotherhood as being a theif class, you have to do some pretty unique attacking moves due to the fact you get liquified when strong characters melee you, kinda like a rogue in WoW, but ill be damned if rogues in wow ever did this much damage with bows although i do have a few complaints after playing it for the past two days the voice acting it great, but sometimes its the exact same guy/girl on every other character, doesnt sound right, and also if you talk to some characters they'll start with one voice and suddenly change to another. also i dont know if its just me but some times quest triggers dont get activated when they should, i have to run around, enter and exit a build and come back for it to get going. __________________ 12090 in 3DMarks06 on current system, 5001 on old system, 4164 on older, 1587 on oldest Last edited by topbob; Mar 23, 2006 at 06:31 PM.

Mar 23, 2006, 03:20 PM	#62
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	I installed it last night for a look, have to say its a system killer on maxxed settings. only card I tested capable of running it at 1920x1200 with every option at the max was an overclocked X1900XTx . Graphics are very impressive but i have to say in the short time (15 minutes) I played it, the combat looked poor. hack, slash, block. Obviously this could well change when I put more time into it, just a quick observation.

Mar 23, 2006, 03:58 PM	#64
goingtojapan DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	sure its a good game and it looks great, but i kinda hate it, simply not my cup of tea, if i play RPG they have to have substance and be more linear like final fantasy

Mar 23, 2006, 08:10 PM	#71
Partizan Fun loving criminal Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 1,182 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	That thing with FOV works. Game looks better, it just screws ingame menus abit. I don't know. The first impressions of the game were WOW. But now I don't know. I think I am gonna replay Gothic2 with the addon. Regards, Partizan __________________ Live and let live!

Mar 23, 2006, 09:22 PM	#73
ferret2004 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 285 Rep Power: 46	I just got the xbox360 version and will begin playing shortly

Mar 23, 2006, 09:35 PM	#74
Mayro -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 173 Rep Power: 0	There will be a computer patch to not only address things that should have been included in this main release, like the programer linking the function of /save INSERT A FRIKIN NAME HERE to name your save games.... which works in console BTW, and also redoing the inventroy. They are also adding full support for the xbox 360 controller

Mar 23, 2006, 09:49 PM	#76
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 70 System Specs	I've noticed something weird with the frame rate where it will drop for no reason(outside) but if I bring up the inventory screen and exit back into the game its back to normal again. Other than that playing at 1900/HDR/8xHQAF is very sweet. If ATi can squeeze out just a couple more fps ill be extremely happy. Great game overall and its got me hooked like a fish

Mar 23, 2006, 09:50 PM	#77
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	just got the game and am installing it now __________________

Mar 23, 2006, 10:22 PM	#79
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,251 Rep Power: 99	Definately a good game, and i absolutely love combat. WAY better than the previous 3 TES'. However this game is a system killer like said previously. With my 630 @ 3.9GHz, 2GB of DDR700, and my X850XT @ 560/560 i still can only run the game @ 1024X768, large textures, no AA. __________________ 27" iMac: i5 750 * 80GB X25-M G1 * 4GB DDR3 * HD4850 Stacker: 2600k * P8P67 Pro * 4GB DDR3 * 80GB ioXtreme * 30GB X25-E * (2) HD6950 * Asus D2 * Enermax Revo85+ HWD: (2) Xeon E5649 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * 8800GTS * 1000W Antec FT01BW: (2) Xeon E5645 * EVGA SR-2 * 6GB DDR3 * GTS210 * Gigabyte 800W Odin GT Storage: (2) Sans Digital TR8M-B * 29TB

Mar 23, 2006, 11:08 PM	#84
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	is any one else have problems with these god awful menus? i swear, its a damn guessing game as to where the menu buttons are. i just spent almost 10 mins trying to get into my inventory, and guess what? clicking on the fist does nothing. i was click about 3/4s of an inch up and to the right of the menu before i found it. __________________

Mar 24, 2006, 01:02 AM	#90
Mayro -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 173 Rep Power: 0	The thing im hateing about this game, is that if you want to be really good, the charecter you make should basicaly make any skill you care about be a minor skill. Leveling in this game is a bad thing. When you level, every thing else levels and unless you have leveled correctly, you wont get any bonus and instead of making stuff easyer when you level, you have just made them harder.