Mgs 2

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Mar 22, 2003, 04:22 AM

anyone know when the hell mgs2:substance for pc is coming out jesus christ always fucking delayed. EB games said 25th it will be shipping. I was wondering if anyone got it leaked or demo was out? And i heard its a 4 gig install and 1 dvd rom omfg!

NaumoJR · Mar 22, 2003, 04:25 AM

It's not that great.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Mar 22, 2003, 04:28 AM

lol ur a hippie then. MGS2 is possibly the greatest game ever made. Graphics are still damn amazing compared to today standards,interactivity and story cannot be beat by any game on the market. hahah not great, u finish it?

~~craig588~~ · Mar 22, 2003, 01:37 PM

The game is alot of fun, but its so increadibly easy, even on the hardest settings.

NaumoJR · Mar 22, 2003, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BiGBrOWnPimpsta
lol ur a hippie then. MGS2 is possibly the greatest game ever made. Graphics are still damn amazing compared to today standards,interactivity and story cannot be beat by any game on the market. hahah not great, u finish it?

shuki · Mar 22, 2003, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BiGBrOWnPimpsta
MGS2 is possibly the greatest game ever made. Graphics are still damn amazing compared to today standards,interactivity and story cannot be beat by any game on the market.

ROTFL

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Mar 22, 2003, 05:04 PM

yea try playing extreme and no radar. then u got hell to play. and shuki why do u think it sucks?

shuki · Mar 22, 2003, 06:49 PM

dunno how the PC version will be but the PS2 and xbox version sucked IMO. Control was horrendous. It was like *click* OK now you can move snake but can't control camera then *click* OK now you can move camera but not snake. then *click* again and you're back to snake but no camera. Talk about outdated and soooooooo frustrating after playing ALL modern shooters where you can strafe, shoot and look around at same time. That was my biggest gripe. control scheme. Second would have to be the length of the cinematics. I bought it to play not watch. Third would have to be very sub par graphics. I had it hooked up on my 34" toshiba via s-video and it looked like crap. Anyhow, just my $.02....

~~craig588~~ · Mar 22, 2003, 06:52 PM

Yep even extreme no radar is pretty easy

And d*mn what games have you been playing if you think MGS2 has one of the best storys. Try playing FF6-7,chrono trigger/cross and deus ex, and thats just a few.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Mar 22, 2003, 08:29 PM

mgs2 way more down to earth than ff7, and shuki u loser this is not a shooter, its a sneeking game. if ur a quake player your opinions on how mgs2 should be a shooter is not wanted. I jus want to know when its coming out. splinter cell u cant strafe, complain about that game, the camera needs too much movement at times. and toshiba tvs suck.... get ur opinions straight and face the facts of metal gear.

shuki · Mar 22, 2003, 08:51 PM

all I know is Splinter Cell was a sneak game and looks absoluetly FANTASTIC on my "sucky" toshiba TV.....

Anyway, you asked why I thought it sucked and I told you. don't get all fanboy on me.....

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Mar 23, 2003, 12:49 AM

they both look good, since spinter cell is newer looks better BEACUSE its newer. I asked for the RELEASE DATE, if anyone knows post it

NaumoJR · Mar 23, 2003, 12:57 AM

MGS 2 will look very similar to how it did on the Xbox.

It's the exact same thing too. No Multiplayer support whatsoever.

If you've played the console version's then why are you so hyped to play the same exact thing on a PC???

BTW - There are too many games to mention that are better than MGS 2.

~~craig588~~ · Mar 23, 2003, 01:59 AM

Yeah, its classic fanboyism

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Mar 24, 2003, 06:20 PM

i didnt want to waste money on a crapbox, dont want a computer in diguise which can only play games. the graphics for pc will be better. of course it will look similar. I'm just god damn asking the release date i did not come to debate on the game or any system.

Renegade[CSR] · Mar 25, 2003, 07:32 PM

Simmer down guys, lets keep this on a friendly basis.

In any case, the release date, as far as I know, has yet to be announced. It may be on some gaming sites such as gamespot or ign though, hidden within all of the articles.

ivan300 · Mar 26, 2003, 01:51 AM

hehehe im downloading it as i speak 102 x 50 mb files lol big ass game cant wait for it to finish

~~craig588~~ · Mar 26, 2003, 02:04 AM

Its out? Well I'll have to search irc.

NaumoJR · Mar 26, 2003, 02:06 AM

Yeah, sorry if I pissed you off. It was a decent game.

Vampyromaniac · Mar 26, 2003, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ivan300
hehehe im downloading it as i speak 102 x 50 mb files lol big ass game cant wait for it to finish

This game is almost 5GB ??!?

that's got to be the biggest game ever

ivan300 · Mar 26, 2003, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
This game is almost 5GB ??!?
that's got to be the biggest game ever

yea i know but its worth the bandwith

im done 20/102 lol

almost a gig

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Mar 26, 2003, 06:35 PM

no hard feelings.... yea its out and has tons of bugs. as i heard over at isonewz, it has problems on anything non-nvidia. and mgs1 fucks up on my mx440 but works perfect on my old rage. sold that rage for 10 bucks to a friend who has no life but cs.... lol. kid dropped out school for cs, think hes in cal- i maybe. but yea.... konami did a fucking horrible job on porting this, i heard there still parts where it says to press X lol! i heard also that another group will fix it up and compress it more, last time konami left all sounds in god damn wav. really really stupid. i can understand that the install maybe large, but comon massive video issues? im not touching this game even though its my favorite game in the whole world unless theres a demo. and since i like it i might buy it if all goes good.

ivan300 · Mar 27, 2003, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BiGBrOWnPimpsta
no hard feelings.... yea its out and has tons of bugs. as i heard over at isonewz, it has problems on anything non-nvidia. and mgs1 fucks up on my mx440 but works perfect on my old rage. sold that rage for 10 bucks to a friend who has no life but cs.... lol. kid dropped out school for cs, think hes in cal- i maybe. but yea.... konami did a fucking horrible job on porting this, i heard there still parts where it says to press X lol! i heard also that another group will fix it up and compress it more, last time konami left all sounds in god damn wav. really really stupid. i can understand that the install maybe large, but comon massive video issues? im not touching this game even though its my favorite game in the whole world unless theres a demo. and since i like it i might buy it if all goes good.

yea thats what i heard too but no game is perfect and thats what patches / updates are for ,surely the will fix it up (they better)

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Mar 27, 2003, 01:36 AM

yea but the problems sound real severe... but whoever downloads PLEASE tell me how it is... and u better have 12 gigs free lol

Mystik · Mar 27, 2003, 01:57 AM

I dunno, personally, I think MGS1 was way better than MGS2.

Sure, MGS2 has nice graphics, but it seemed to fall into that "graphics
is glory" route.. The story itself kinda lacked.

Plus, it had .. whatever the "main character" is as the main character..
Metal Gear = Snake.

I'm actually looking for someone that has MGS1.. but no one seems to
have it, even for psx. argh.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Mar 27, 2003, 02:05 AM

mgs 1 was sick, i still play it. I think lots of elements they had were better... but MGS2 the story seems far more serious and clearly see its leading into part 3. MGS1 it felt more finished but once we heard ocelot it gave us a strong feeling of a sequel... if u didnt skip the ending. MGS2 see it in the cinematic and the statement "They've been dead for 200 years" (the patriots. But cmon MGS2 some stuff was clearly better... I find both equal, but it kinda did annoy me where raidan was the whole game when u saw snake on the cover, snake in the previews snake snake snake. i hope next time if they do have raidan to at least allow u to switch between both

Mystik · Mar 27, 2003, 12:37 PM

Playing as Raiden (I was going with Rayden in my other message,
but gimped it as I forgot if it was that or not) kinda turned me off..
He seemed more as a "Hot-Shot" trying to "look good" infront of
Snake and the team.. it just didn't feel right when playing with him..

I do hope that if they decide to bring in a new character, they give
a choice.. Even if they neuter Snake and don't give him any "cool moves,"
i'd still use him.. Let's look at Splinter Cell.. the only thing i practically
do is knock people out.. then again, i take my damn sweet time going
through levels..

If they brought MGS1 back w/ MGS2 graphics.. I'd really enjoy that..

Which is why i'm still looking for MGS1 for the PC.. gahha.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Mar 27, 2003, 11:01 PM

i have mgs1 for pc BUT i burned it and would have to convert it to ISO format.i hve mad problems wit it on my mx440 but never once wit my old rage fury pro. wierd... raiden's not bad, i didnt mind using him but it was like how could HE fight metal gear without real experience like snake. hes kind of a pussy in a way and stayed that way the whole game. it would of been good to be able to use raiden and snake at the end so u can fight fortune and RAY. and have a choice when ur in arsenal giving u alternate endigns like last time. sons of liberty was missing the training and stuff which is in substance but substance come out later making people wait and KINDA lost interest. overall MGS2 is the greatest game ive played which is not too time consuming, has a really good lasting appeal and replay value just the game was kinda short. but not frustrating like splinter cell at times. and once u finish the game, what the hell u gonna do then nothing else to do or get where MGS2 u can

-={420}=- · Mar 28, 2003, 11:40 AM

It came out on the 27th according to ebgames.com.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Mar 28, 2003, 07:26 PM

keeps fucking getting delayed... there a demo coming out?

Mar 22, 2003, 04:22 AM	#1
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	Mgs 2 anyone know when the hell mgs2:substance for pc is coming out jesus christ always fucking delayed. EB games said 25th it will be shipping. I was wondering if anyone got it leaked or demo was out? And i heard its a 4 gig install and 1 dvd rom omfg!

Mar 22, 2003, 04:28 AM	Thread Starter #3
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	lol ur a hippie then. MGS2 is possibly the greatest game ever made. Graphics are still damn amazing compared to today standards,interactivity and story cannot be beat by any game on the market. hahah not great, u finish it? __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Mar 22, 2003, 05:04 PM	Thread Starter #7
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	yea try playing extreme and no radar. then u got hell to play. and shuki why do u think it sucks? __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Mar 22, 2003, 08:29 PM	Thread Starter #10
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	mgs2 way more down to earth than ff7, and shuki u loser this is not a shooter, its a sneeking game. if ur a quake player your opinions on how mgs2 should be a shooter is not wanted. I jus want to know when its coming out. splinter cell u cant strafe, complain about that game, the camera needs too much movement at times. and toshiba tvs suck.... get ur opinions straight and face the facts of metal gear. __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Mar 23, 2003, 12:49 AM	Thread Starter #12
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	they both look good, since spinter cell is newer looks better BEACUSE its newer. I asked for the RELEASE DATE, if anyone knows post it __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Mar 22, 2003, 04:25 AM	#2
NaumoJR Paranoid Android Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Planet Telex Posts: 1,029 Rep Power: 0	It's not that great.

Mar 22, 2003, 01:37 PM	#4
~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	The game is alot of fun, but its so increadibly easy, even on the hardest settings.

Mar 22, 2003, 06:49 PM	#8
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	dunno how the PC version will be but the PS2 and xbox version sucked IMO. Control was horrendous. It was like click OK now you can move snake but can't control camera then click OK now you can move camera but not snake. then click again and you're back to snake but no camera. Talk about outdated and soooooooo frustrating after playing ALL modern shooters where you can strafe, shoot and look around at same time. That was my biggest gripe. control scheme. Second would have to be the length of the cinematics. I bought it to play not watch. Third would have to be very sub par graphics. I had it hooked up on my 34" toshiba via s-video and it looked like crap. Anyhow, just my $.02....

Mar 22, 2003, 06:52 PM	#9
~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	Yep even extreme no radar is pretty easy And d*mn what games have you been playing if you think MGS2 has one of the best storys. Try playing FF6-7,chrono trigger/cross and deus ex, and thats just a few.

Mar 22, 2003, 08:51 PM	#11
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	all I know is Splinter Cell was a sneak game and looks absoluetly FANTASTIC on my "sucky" toshiba TV..... Anyway, you asked why I thought it sucked and I told you. don't get all fanboy on me.....

Mar 23, 2003, 12:57 AM	#13
NaumoJR Paranoid Android Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Planet Telex Posts: 1,029 Rep Power: 0	MGS 2 will look very similar to how it did on the Xbox. It's the exact same thing too. No Multiplayer support whatsoever. If you've played the console version's then why are you so hyped to play the same exact thing on a PC??? BTW - There are too many games to mention that are better than MGS 2.

Mar 23, 2003, 01:59 AM	#14
~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, its classic fanboyism

Mar 24, 2003, 06:20 PM	Thread Starter #15
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	i didnt want to waste money on a crapbox, dont want a computer in diguise which can only play games. the graphics for pc will be better. of course it will look similar. I'm just god damn asking the release date i did not come to debate on the game or any system. __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Mar 25, 2003, 07:32 PM	#16
Renegade[CSR] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Undisclosed Renegade Location Posts: 396 Rep Power: 0	Simmer down guys, lets keep this on a friendly basis. In any case, the release date, as far as I know, has yet to be announced. It may be on some gaming sites such as gamespot or ign though, hidden within all of the articles.

Mar 26, 2003, 01:51 AM	#17
ivan300 Booooo Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Vancouver Bc Posts: 236 Rep Power: 0	hehehe im downloading it as i speak 102 x 50 mb files lol big ass game cant wait for it to finish

Mar 26, 2003, 02:04 AM	#18
~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	Its out? Well I'll have to search irc.

Mar 26, 2003, 02:06 AM	#19
NaumoJR Paranoid Android Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Planet Telex Posts: 1,029 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, sorry if I pissed you off. It was a decent game.

Mar 26, 2003, 06:35 PM	Thread Starter #22
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	no hard feelings.... yea its out and has tons of bugs. as i heard over at isonewz, it has problems on anything non-nvidia. and mgs1 fucks up on my mx440 but works perfect on my old rage. sold that rage for 10 bucks to a friend who has no life but cs.... lol. kid dropped out school for cs, think hes in cal- i maybe. but yea.... konami did a fucking horrible job on porting this, i heard there still parts where it says to press X lol! i heard also that another group will fix it up and compress it more, last time konami left all sounds in god damn wav. really really stupid. i can understand that the install maybe large, but comon massive video issues? im not touching this game even though its my favorite game in the whole world unless theres a demo. and since i like it i might buy it if all goes good. __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Mar 27, 2003, 01:36 AM	Thread Starter #24
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	yea but the problems sound real severe... but whoever downloads PLEASE tell me how it is... and u better have 12 gigs free lol __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Mar 27, 2003, 01:57 AM	#25
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	I dunno, personally, I think MGS1 was way better than MGS2. Sure, MGS2 has nice graphics, but it seemed to fall into that "graphics is glory" route.. The story itself kinda lacked. Plus, it had .. whatever the "main character" is as the main character.. Metal Gear = Snake. I'm actually looking for someone that has MGS1.. but no one seems to have it, even for psx. argh. __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Mar 27, 2003, 02:05 AM	Thread Starter #26
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	mgs 1 was sick, i still play it. I think lots of elements they had were better... but MGS2 the story seems far more serious and clearly see its leading into part 3. MGS1 it felt more finished but once we heard ocelot it gave us a strong feeling of a sequel... if u didnt skip the ending. MGS2 see it in the cinematic and the statement "They've been dead for 200 years" (the patriots. But cmon MGS2 some stuff was clearly better... I find both equal, but it kinda did annoy me where raidan was the whole game when u saw snake on the cover, snake in the previews snake snake snake. i hope next time if they do have raidan to at least allow u to switch between both __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Mar 27, 2003, 12:37 PM	#27
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	Playing as Raiden (I was going with Rayden in my other message, but gimped it as I forgot if it was that or not) kinda turned me off.. He seemed more as a "Hot-Shot" trying to "look good" infront of Snake and the team.. it just didn't feel right when playing with him.. I do hope that if they decide to bring in a new character, they give a choice.. Even if they neuter Snake and don't give him any "cool moves," i'd still use him.. Let's look at Splinter Cell.. the only thing i practically do is knock people out.. then again, i take my damn sweet time going through levels.. If they brought MGS1 back w/ MGS2 graphics.. I'd really enjoy that.. Which is why i'm still looking for MGS1 for the PC.. gahha. __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Mar 27, 2003, 11:01 PM	Thread Starter #28
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	i have mgs1 for pc BUT i burned it and would have to convert it to ISO format.i hve mad problems wit it on my mx440 but never once wit my old rage fury pro. wierd... raiden's not bad, i didnt mind using him but it was like how could HE fight metal gear without real experience like snake. hes kind of a pussy in a way and stayed that way the whole game. it would of been good to be able to use raiden and snake at the end so u can fight fortune and RAY. and have a choice when ur in arsenal giving u alternate endigns like last time. sons of liberty was missing the training and stuff which is in substance but substance come out later making people wait and KINDA lost interest. overall MGS2 is the greatest game ive played which is not too time consuming, has a really good lasting appeal and replay value just the game was kinda short. but not frustrating like splinter cell at times. and once u finish the game, what the hell u gonna do then nothing else to do or get where MGS2 u can __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Mar 28, 2003, 11:40 AM	#29
-={420}=- DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,095 Rep Power: 0	It came out on the 27th according to ebgames.com. __________________ [COLOR=red]My eBay Auctions[/COLOR]

Mar 28, 2003, 07:26 PM	Thread Starter #30
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	keeps fucking getting delayed... there a demo coming out? __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard