Flight Sim X w/o joystick

transient · Oct 15, 2007, 10:10 PM

I'm buying FSX today, wondering if its any good w/o a joystick?

Just built a new PC, haven't played FS for > 10 years.

- Galen

**temeteus82** · Oct 15, 2007, 10:26 PM

Saitek Aviator

Aviator Joystick

BlueMak · Oct 15, 2007, 10:57 PM

Using a mouse used to get more accurate controls, though not as realistic. Well, at least that was with the last MS-FS I tried back in 1987.

EcPercy · Oct 16, 2007, 01:20 PM

I would recommend a joystick. I use the Logitech Cordless Freedom 2.4Ghz and after installing FSX I didn't need to configure anything to get up and running correctly.

I can't imagine using the game without a joystick because there is just too much going on when you are playing.

OldBuzzard · Oct 16, 2007, 05:31 PM

You will definately want a stick.

I used a Cordless Freedom for awhile in FS9, and IL2 and used it HARD. It was ok for about a year or so, but with a lot of hours on it, it did start to get 'sloppy', and throttle response got to be a bit twitchy. I also used re-chargable batteries in it as I tended to go thru them at a pretty good rate. All in all, it's not a bad stick, and I really liked the fact that I didn't have wires all over the place. There are a lot of 'Logitech Haters' out there in the FS world, who claim that their quality is sub-par, but I didn't find that to be the case. I think a lot of it is just like the M$ haters that think their epenis is bigger because they 'dis' a certain brand or two

I have since, replaced it with a Saitek X-52, and then added the Saitek Rudder Pedals. As well as I liked the Cordless freedom, and the MS Sidewinder I had before that, this combination makes them both seem shabby. It's much more programmable, altho the programming software isn't all that user friendly, and poorly documented. I really like it and recommend it with no reservations.

It mostly depends on your budget, but the Cordless Freedom, X-52, and X-52 Pro would all do an excelent job for you. Adding rudder pedals would be icing on the cake, and not really necessary as the mentioned sticks all have a twist axis for rudder control. However, once I got used to the pedals, I'll never go back to a 'twisty stick'. The pedels give a degree of control over the rudder that is just impossible to acheive with a stick.

Just my $0.02. Hope it helps you a bit.

Oct 15, 2007, 10:10 PM	#1
transient DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: St Louis, MO area Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Flight Sim X w/o joystick I'm buying FSX today, wondering if its any good w/o a joystick? Just built a new PC, haven't played FS for > 10 years. - Galen

Oct 15, 2007, 10:57 PM	#3
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Oct 16, 2007, 05:31 PM	#5
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,782 Rep Power: 142 System Specs	You will definately want a stick. I used a Cordless Freedom for awhile in FS9, and IL2 and used it HARD. It was ok for about a year or so, but with a lot of hours on it, it did start to get 'sloppy', and throttle response got to be a bit twitchy. I also used re-chargable batteries in it as I tended to go thru them at a pretty good rate. All in all, it's not a bad stick, and I really liked the fact that I didn't have wires all over the place. There are a lot of 'Logitech Haters' out there in the FS world, who claim that their quality is sub-par, but I didn't find that to be the case. I think a lot of it is just like the M$ haters that think their epenis is bigger because they 'dis' a certain brand or two I have since, replaced it with a Saitek X-52, and then added the Saitek Rudder Pedals. As well as I liked the Cordless freedom, and the MS Sidewinder I had before that, this combination makes them both seem shabby. It's much more programmable, altho the programming software isn't all that user friendly, and poorly documented. I really like it and recommend it with no reservations. It mostly depends on your budget, but the Cordless Freedom, X-52, and X-52 Pro would all do an excelent job for you. Adding rudder pedals would be icing on the cake, and not really necessary as the mentioned sticks all have a twist axis for rudder control. However, once I got used to the pedals, I'll never go back to a 'twisty stick'. The pedels give a degree of control over the rudder that is just impossible to acheive with a stick. Just my $0.02. Hope it helps you a bit. __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

Oct 16, 2007, 01:20 PM	#4
EcPercy HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Iraq Posts: 1,535 Rep Power: 0	I would recommend a joystick. I use the Logitech Cordless Freedom 2.4Ghz and after installing FSX I didn't need to configure anything to get up and running correctly. I can't imagine using the game without a joystick because there is just too much going on when you are playing.