wolfran

Hi all,

I've been thinking of buying either ps3 or xbox 360 for this christmas holiday (can't afford both though). So which one do the people in this forum more fond of?

I've been reading comparisons on them and I think people are saying xbox has the better IQ and support AA while PS3 doesn't have AA. Will AA be supported in PS3?
Does xbox 360 support 1080p games?

My games preferences are:
1. RPG
2. Action
3. FPS
and I'm more concern about the future of the console than its immediate conditions.
I don't have any 1080p TV atm but i do have 720p projector and 1080i/720p TV which I can use to game on. I'm also interested in using the console as a media streamer or server if possible and ocasionally (as it's not that popular yet) watching HD movies.

One question if I may ask in this forum is: When xbox 360 is modded, it can get banned when playing pirated copies online but what if the xbox is modded but original games are used, will it get banned as well? (moderators can remove this question if it's not appropriate for the forum)

Customgamer1

Well to be 100% honest with you I think the 360 is the way to go. I think they are doing a much better job making gaming fun. I think it's more fun because of the online. I think online play is very important and thats why I play 360 to begin with.

The 360 comes with everything you need to play online. It comes with a head set to at least 1 free month of xbl. The game selection IMO is also better. Not only because it's been out longer but because the games that really stand out are coming on it and for the games that are coming out on both the 360 is cheaper!

Halo 3, COD4, Forza 2, PGR4, GH2, Bioshock, You name it they have a great game for that game type. And no matter what Sony says the 360 is a more powerful system. I don't have the numbers in front of me but Zardon also did a short review or something about how the system is better.

You are also not forced to buy a next gen HD format. HD-DVD you can buy for the 360 with a add-on that works well and is well worth the price since you get a lot of free movies with it! 5 free mail in and King Kong in the box!


The choice is yours but no matter what system you buy I am sure you will be happy with it since that the one you bought but I just think you will be more happy with the 360!

Also all the new pro 360's come with a HDMI port so if you buy that make sure you look on the side of the box and see that that one has a HDMI out on it! The other thing is they fixed the heat issue so you should have no problems with it!

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OmegaRED

I don't own either but the Xbox360 is undeniably the better choice. The IQ is nearly identical in most games but the 360 usually looks better when this isn't the case (check Gamespot for their 2 comparison articles). Your game preferences pretty much sum up all the best 360 games too. Really it comes down to exclusivity and by my recollection the PS3 only has Fall of Man and MGS4 as the huge exclusive titles.

As far as I know, as long as you don't go online with a modded xbox it won't get you banned, you take your chances otherwise (MS eventually detects new mods).

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EZero

For starters, in your list, PS3 will definitely have Final Fantasy and more RPGs for the PS3 in the long run.

Also, PS3 will eventually get God of War sequels and you might even see surprisingly good games like Shadow of the Colossus pop up. As far as established franchises that are almost guaranteed a sequel, the PS3 is likely a better choice.

However, as we all know, Xbox 360 is like a FPS-fest console. There's obviously the biggies like Halo 3, Gears of War, R6: Vegas and the upcoming Call of Duty 4. As far as RPGs go, the only ones that we know of are what has been released so far (Eternal Sonata, Blue Dragon, Enchanted Arms) and the upcoming Mass Effect and The Last Odyssey and the Infinite Undiscovery. There are no established franchises nor guarantees that any other future RPGs are coming out for the 360.

So really I think your decision is mainly going to come down to this. Which franchise do you want to play more in the future? Final Fantasy? Metal Gear Solid 4? Gran Turismo Prologue / 5? God of War? or Halo? Gears of War? Mass Effect? etc.

The other thing to consider is that as of right now, Xbox Live has a more cohesive online system but requires a monthly subscription fee to play online. Also, do you plan on watching High Definition movies on your TV in the future? Do you watch alot of movies? If so, PS3 might be a cheaper option since it already includes a Blu Ray drive as compared to an addon for the 360.

Anyways, have fun in choosing which console to buy and good luck!

BlueMak

All good points.

If you can't live without a Formula 1 game, get a PS3. Else, get an Xbox 360.

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wolfran

It is so hard for me to decide because both consoles seem to be equally good in my opinion but from what the people saying here it seems like xbox360 is the way to go.

So does the new xbox pro with the build in hdmi really fix the heat issue?
Is it true that the xbox is a bit more powerful/at least equal to the ps3?

Looking at the current games, xbox seems to be the way to go.
I also read that developers are having problems (harder) designing ps3 games and may jump to design xbox games instead, is this true?

OmegaRED

This is by far the most damning aspect of PS3's. A few developers have said they dislike making games for the PS3 and with the 360 sales being higher it's more incentive for them to make that their primary console to reach more people.

IMO, 360 isn't even in a battle with the PS3 it's fighting off the Wii.

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craig5320

360 all the way, the money you save you can kit it out with plenty of games, Halo 3, PGR4, Guitar Hero III, plenty of fun games on the arcade too, make sure you get the one with HDMI as this is on the new mobo, and hopefully you'll get the 45nm processor/gpu, while there's reports some are stil failing with heat issues, it's hard to know what the figure may actually be compared to the original hardware, but I wouldn't worry about failure, MS support system is great, you can return the system direct to microsoft without evening making a phonecall.

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Well i'm glad you had a great experience with the so called MS customer service, i had my premium broke with the 3 red lights problem (hardware failure) and called them up like 3 or 4 months ago. First call they couldn't pick up my console because UPS didn't do pick up's here in the Azores Islands so they would "try" and find a way to "help me", they (MS) were trying to figure out a way with UPS to solve this problem. A month later still nothing, i called up again and explained the situation and the lady said she never heard of any UPS problems for my region that i should call UPS Portugal and see what was going on. So after calling UPS Portugal they said they never heard of such a thing and that they worked in this region and never had any problems with MS before.So later that day i get a call and an email from them saying i was going to get a call from some lady from MS Portugal so they could arrange the pick up of the console. Let's just say i'm still waiting for the call a few months later. So i just got tired of waiting and fixed the damn console myself about a week now, it's working again only difference now it's playing better then before since it's also modded now.

Zardon

i guess you ask yourself "do I want the option of 5 good games or 50 good games"? thats really the sum of the decision.

Unless you want bluray and something that wont blow up in a few months.

jp306

I would say get one of the new XBox360's with the 60nm processor. They don't run as hot as the older chip that I believe was a 90nm chip. I'm not even sure if you can get one yet, but I read a while back that they were in production and that some lot #'s contained the new chips.

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wolfran

Thanks for all the responses guys. Those really help me to make my mind.
It seems like Xbox it is.
I think they will start shipping the xbox360 pro with hdmi starting next month in Australia.
Hopefully MS fixes the heat issue with that version.

ViRuS2k

im with the other guys 360 is the way to go.

i bought a ps3 and sold it 5 weeks later, utter crap compaired to the 360 for functionalty aswell as gameing.

mike2h

360 = LOT more games, getting close to maxed out performance, & good(though lessening) chance of problems.
ps3 = few games, top performance still yet to be seen, good reliability.
though i own a ps3 & really like it, i would probabably go with the 360(try as hard as you can to make sure you get one of the newest models) & take another look at the ps3 in 4-6 months.

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craig5320

If you use the online system, you get emailed a prepaid UPS returns label, so then you wouldn't have to deal with MS, you just ring UPS Portugal and get them to come and collect it. Job Done.

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Pluvious

Wow.. you actually have to ask?. 360 all the way. There is NO reason to buy a PS3 at all. I can't see anyone buying one when you compare the lineup of games the 360 has to offer.

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BlueMak

If you live in a country that it doesn't officialy have Xbox Live, then you will have problems downloading some demos and most of the videos. You might all have problems buying MS points and live gold subscription. That wasn't the case, but it looks like it is now. At least for Greece.

I don't know how the PS3 and Wii networks work.

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BiGBrOwNPimpsta

i have ps3, get 360... but i can tell you this is probably the last christmas people will overlook the ps3 this much. its going to gain momentum.

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wolfran

This was the reason that I originally asked the question for. If PS3 would gain so much momentum in the near future (like 1-2 years) that it would left xbox360 in the dust.
My worry was that PS2 had so much support from the develeopers and would that translate to PS3?
However, it seems like Xbox do have a lot of support from the game developers so hopefully it will go strong til its lifetime.

Customgamer1

I really don't see this as possible. MS knows they have Sony wrapped up and will do anything to not let them succeed. If anything I think MS is taking away from Sony all the great games and the exclusives that Sony once owned.

One of the big ones is Grand Theft Auto. Now both are getting it. EA has also made a point to say that they are developing for the 360 and will just port over to the PS3 because it's harder to develop.

In the end Xbox and Wii have this system war wrapped up. Maybe the next time around Sony will bring it back. If you really like gaming the 360 is the way to go. You will really enjoy it.

The last note I wanted to point out is you should not have to worry about the 360 giving you the 3 red lights because with this new heat sink everything runs a lot cooler!

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mainman

Maybe in the future if i have any problems with my backup core unit. Since i opened up my premium to fix it the warranty is pretty much over.

easyfun123

I think I like ps3 better.

YAYitsAndrew

My vote's definitely for the 360. You can pick up an elite for 450 USD, that saves you 150 bucks over a comparable ps3 unit and that's already 3 games or extra controllers.

In regard to rpgs, I was holding out on getting a 360 because the system had none worth playing, but just recently Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata hit. I got both and really enjoyed both of them. One's a jrpg and the other is an action rpg like the tales series games.

As for betting that previous ps2 exclusives will carry over to the ps3, I don't think that's a safe bet. You can count on sony's proprietary games to stay, but there's a trend of previously exclusive games either warning to or actually jumping ship to the 360. The one that's impacted me the most is Beautiful Katamari which I'm able to play on the 360

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Pluvious

Next month is THE rpg of the year.. Mass Effect. That alone should warrant a buy.

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Da_Jewish_Fonzy

If you already have a decent rig then I don't see why you would want to buy a 360, aside from its atrocious failure rate, all of its games are either pc ports or get ported to pc eventually. Where as games coming to the PS3 will only be playable on the PS3. Kind of a no brainer that the PS3 compliments a rig better than a 360.

Zardon

Its only a no brainer, if in fact you have no brain. Quite a few of those PS3 exclusives like GTA and metal gear are coming out on the 360 (and apparently run better) and quite a few of the games coming out on 360 aren't coming out on the PS3 (there are already a heap).

I don't see why anyone would buy the PS3 right now, I bought one just after launch and it sat in a corner for 4 months as most of the titles released were already released a year ago on the 360...... I played the occasional store game (stardust HD is excellent), but generally the PS3 has been a disaster in that there are just not enough games out for it, and the titles that look good are already coming out on the 360. This is why i sold mine to Spyre a few months ago ....

Its only a good purchase if you want a bluray drive. Hopefully this time next year it will be in a stronger position however going on developers the console is a total bastard to code for which is causing many to not even try. The only semi decent PS3 games recently have been Lair and Heavenly Sword and neither of them are even what I would class as AAA titles.

Da_Jewish_Fonzy

GTA was never Playstation exclusive, it was time exclusive, thats it. As for Metal Gear Solid 4 it has only been announced for Playstation 3, even Hideo Kojima at E3 said it would only be on the PS3. You still have series' like Ratchet, God Of War, Jak, Gran Turismo, Final Fantasy, the next title from the makers of ICO and Shadow of the Colossus etc...that will remain only playable on Playstation 3.

Gears of War and Halo, the 360's biggest titles, are ported to pc and after those two the 360 doesn't really have much left in terms of exclusives if any that are really substantial that I can think of. After seeing the dozens of people on this forum and others complain about their 360's breaking I really wouldn't feel comfortable recommending one to anybody.

interspaced

I reccomend the PS3 purely for the blu ray if you're a film buff as well as a gamer. It's fantastic and a lot of good titles out there (Eg starship troopers in the UK is excellent if you can stand the gore) and shows off what an HDTV can do with regards to film.
I also got it for metal gear solid, which contray to rumours is a PS3 exclusive as of this date. You should not buy the 360 based on the assumption that metal gear is coming to the platform. It hasn't been confirmed.

I too look forward to mass effect in the summer when I have time to play an RPG of that length and there are plenty of good back titles which can now be found cheaply second hand.

Zardon

Absolutely irrelevant - this wasn't a 3 week wait, it was often 9 months+, GTA sold more PS2 consoles than any other game, the fact its now available on launch on the 360, as well as having exclusive content is a huge hit on Sony. The rest of your commentary is ridiculous (what is the problem with 360 games being ported a year later to the PC its another market and nothing to do with the 360 as a viable platform!), you are without a doubt the biggest sony fanboy ive ever seen, and trust me ive seen a few, this has been proved time and time again on DH in various threads, normally revolving around microsoft. This is why you have a hard time recommending the 360, it has absolutely nothing to do with fail rates. I can read you like a book.

So while I would say to thread starter to take advise from everyone in this thread whether its in favour of PS3 or 360 (and both have their pros and cons as interspaced has detailed), just ignore hornet completely. Unless of course we can weigh the pros and cons on a console with games that "should" be released in a year or two, not by what is available now.

On a technical issue, after having owned a Ps3 for a while and reading various technical papers on it, I still have very serious concerns about the RSX, in a nutshell it is already a less than mid range PC comparible graphics card with no DX10 support and limited bandwidth.

dipstick

After having both consoles for quite some time now I will agree that the 360 is the only way to go this year. It simply has more and better games.
However, as a console, I think the PS3 is a much better unit overall and in time it does have a chance to outshine the competition. The exclusives are looking awesome and they have even secured the next GTA as PS3 only (not the one about to come out but the next one) For now though the 360 is the only logical choice if you enjoy games and want some kind of variety