High Definition Experience between PS3 and Xbox 360

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First the Specs

General

Name Xbox 360 Type Game console Compatibility MS Windows XP Media Center compatible Enclosure Color Black Game Console

Color Support Color Media Type DVD-ROM Processor

Type IBM PowerPC 3 cores 3.2 GHz Installed Qty 1 Floating Point Performance 1000 GFLOPS Memory / Storage

RAM Installed ( Max ) 512 MB ( 512 MB ) GDDR3 SDRAM - Integrated Cache Memory 1 MB Storage DVD-ROM 12x - Tray Hard Disk Drive Yes HDD Capacity 120 GB Video

Video Output ATI Xbox 360 - 256-bit - 2D/3D graphics acceleration Fill Rate 500 million triangles/sec Video Memory Installed ( Max ) Video adapter memory - 10 MB - Integrated Graphic Effects Anti-aliasing Max Resolution (external) 1920 x 1080 Audio

Sound Output Mode 16-bit / Surround Sound Max Sample Rate 48 KHz Input Device

Type Game pad - External Connectivity Technology Wireless Connections

Connector Type 1 x AV cable port, 3 x USB 2.0, 1 x Ethernet ( RJ-45 ), 1 x HDMI Expansion Slots Total (Free) 2 ( 2 ) x Memory Miscellaneous

Cables Included 1 x HDMI cable Included Accessories Xbox Live headset, Wireless controller, Component HD AV cable, Ethernet network cable, 120GB external hard drive Power

Power Device Power supply - Internal and ExternalBattery None HD DVD add on
General

Product Type HD DVD player Form Factor Tabletop compatible with compatible gaming consoles and Windows (yes it works with XP and Vista)Now for Playstation 3 Specs

PlayStation 3 Specifications and Details

Product name: PLAYSTATION 3
CPU: Cell Processor

• PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
• 1 VMX vector unit per core
• 512KB L2 cache
• 7 x SPE @3.2GHz
• 7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
• 7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
• * 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS

GPU: RSX @550MHz

• 1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
• Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
• Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines

Sound: Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-base processing)
Memory:

• 256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
• 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz

System Bandwidth:

• Main RAM: 25.6GB/s
• VRAM: 22.4GB/s
• RSX: 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
• SB: 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)

System Floating Point Performance: 2 TFLOPS
Storage:

• HDD
• Detachable 2.5” HDD slot x 1

I/O:

• USB: Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
• Memory Stick: standard/Duo, PRO x 1
• SD: standard/mini x 1
• CompactFlash: (Type I, II) x 1

Communication: Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi: IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth: Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
Controller:

• Bluetooth (up to 7)
• USB2.0 (wired)
• Wi-Fi (PSP®)
• Network (over IP)

AV Output:

• Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
• HDMI: HDMI out x 2
• Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
• Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1

CD Disc media (read only):

• PlayStation CD-ROM
• PlayStation 2 CD-ROM
• CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW
• SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD
• DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)

DVD Disc media (read only):

• PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM
• PLAYSTATION 3 DVD-ROM
• DVD-Video: DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW

Blu-ray Disc media (read only):

• PLAYSTATION 3 BD-ROM
• BD-Video: BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE

Both consoles are connected via HDMI only due to upconversion of regular dvds can only obtained in 1080p.

review of xbox 360 HD DVD Experience.

Pros
Xbox 360 has done itself a favor by making the hd dvd drive external due to that it can be replaced if it goes bad and it can play games through it as well. HD DVD experience is very good. Also can replace Hard drive easily.

Cons
There is a major problem with the HDMI connection between the console and the HD monitor/tv. This may not happen with all HD monitor or TVs but the audio does not come into the tv via HDMI 1.0, and HDMI 1.1. I have to turn my TV off and re-establish HDCP connection. Without doing this I did not even have the function to turn the volume up or down on the TV. After turning off the tv and back on it has no problems and works well. BUT there is a MAJOR PROBLEM with MATRIX RELOADED (this has been confirmed to me by Microsoft's Xbox support team). This movie will not play at all unless you mess with the usb connection abit. Here are the steps to getting the disc to play. 1. delete all saved data on the HD Drive through the console. 2. turn on the Xbox 360 system. 3. insert the matrix reloaded with the label at 3 o'clock position. 4. Close the tray 5. may play if not. 6 unplug usb cable from HD DVD addon from itself at hd dvd can't read disc. 7. Plug it back in at loading screen. 8. may play. if not. 9. Press eject then close tray. 10. may play if not. 11. restart at instruction 6.
Another problem is with upconverting dvds. The audio issue arises again. But even worse is that at each exchange between movie 1gb vobs on the dvd the tv loses its audio again and again. So I have to turn my tv off again.

Updates to HD DVD drive is not known. and what the updates are even do.

No slots from different types of memory to drive at all.

Conclusion
All in all I give the Xbox 360 movie experience a 4 due to its issues but for its compatibility with windows xp and vista I give it an 7 and no problems when working with windows xp and vista.

Now for Playstation 3.

Pros.

Very excellent experience. High Definition Movies are excellent. The Bluray player has no problems with the audio between console and monitor and tv. upconversion is awesome. There is no need for me to buy a hybrid HD DVD and Bluray player from LG. The console lets the user pick between uncompressed audio (lossless) or Bitrate (Kbps). I chose to use bitrate due to I do not have a lossless receiver to get all 5 channels to work. No external transformer pack to power the PS3 just plug it in like a computer.

Cons
Bluray drive is not replaceable due to that it is internal and if used in dusty areas or smoking areas the lens will get dirty and not able to clean it (directly from instruction manual).

Conclusion
Since the PS3 shuts down the video feed to tv before playing movies and games this give the PS3 a 10 for High Definition Video. Upconversion is a 9 for dual layer and for reencoded dvds a 7-8 depending on which software is used (Cinema Craft encoded single layer dvds are 9).

Total Conclusion

PS3 wins over Xbox 360 due to Audio and Video issue with the Matrix Reloaded.

Xbox 360 wins with its compatibility with windows xp and vista.

Total winner PS3 hands down

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mainman

Thanks for the review? If your really into movies buy a dedicated player. Consoles are for gaming, atleast they used to be, not sure now...

interspaced

Think that line is being blurred by giving them more functionality than just playing games. The PS2 kind of started it by being one of the first affordable dvd players and was one of the reasons I was excited to get it at launch.

Customgamer1

Well I say 360 wins hands down because you don't have to deal with Sony and all there BS!

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CDsDontBurn

and microsoft is any better

anyways, IMO, the 360 is better. the user interface for WMC is much easier to use than the ps3 version.

besides, the DH community has voted that the 360 has much better games .

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BiGBrOwNPimpsta

obviously the PS3 is a better HD device, and I'm a huge Sony fan. But the system itself has too many flaws for heavy gamers. First of all, after 1 year there has not been one game that is not one the 360 and is on the PS3 that people are raving about. This time of year, last year, this game was called Gears of War. Simply shocking as the PS2 was not like this at all. In addition, most games are minimally better looking on the PS3 than their 360 counterparts nor is every game 1080p compatable. I bought this thing for my sequels of PS2 games really, good Full HD device which the 360 will have to rework itself with a new revision to make it more comparable.

and sony needs to allow you to add friends IN GAME, not when you exit god damn. Enable XMB in game!

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Markius

most of the games ive seen that are on both platforms look smoother (as in frames per second) and more vibrant on the 360....

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Customgamer1

The 360 on a dual format release should always look better on the 360 since it has more ability to put out better graphics.

Only game that are specialty made for the PS3 will look really good since they get to work around that huge bottle next Sony tossed in!

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Sandok

I got both consoles and the 360 is way better than the PS3 when it comes to upscaled DVD playback

As for HDDVD and Blueray, I've only bought HDDVDs so far so...

CDsDontBurn

i agree w/all you guys here on this!!!

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interspaced

What about games like burnout and COD4 which perform the same on both consoles because they were either developed seperately rather than ported (COD4) or the PS3 was made the lead platform making it easier to port it to the 360?

Both appear to be at the very least equal in raw power but with different methods and strengths. Sony rely on a CPU apporch the xbox relies more on its GPU.

clicker666

Weird, but I watched Matrix Reloaded last night, having received the boxed HD set for Christmas. I just put the HD DVD in and it played perfectly on the 360.

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Customgamer1

Sweet! I bet you enjoyed that!

People complain about the sound but after the update on this drive it sounds great! I have the HD-DVD A1 with the uncompressed sound and while thats really nice the Xbox with optical and the DTS 5.1 does a great job.

People just complain to much over the little things like 1080p over 1080i is that much of a difference lol...

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Pluvious

The ONLY thing I like about the PS3 is how utterly silent it is when its on. The 360 leaf blower is getting on my nerves. I've resorted to putting it behind glass door in my rack system and I can STILL hear it over the games. Its crazy. That alone is starting to make me consider buying a PS3. (well and the bluray player) Why on earth can't MS design a silent console like Sony can??

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CDsDontBurn

if that's the case, don't go out and buy that 3rd party cooler that attaches to the rear of the 360. remember the vantec tornado fans? .....yea

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Sandok

The newer Xboxs are MUCH MUCH MUCH quieter... I'm so pleased in the end that my Xbox died

Free upgrade!

BiGBrOwNPimpsta

My 60GB PS3 isn't that that quiet, nowhere near silent when its under load and pretty noticeable on full load. I can hear it pretty well if its quiet in my living room. The PS2 5000 series (before the slim line) was damn silent, and I'm sure the Slimline is even more silent. People say that PS3 is silent, it really isn't all that silent. But the original 360s are hell of a lot louder I have to say. It kinda makes you feel you have a lot of horsepower though lol

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Zardon

neither console gives my tv any issues whatsoever so I can't mark either down for signal issues or drop out.

I think the PS3 is a slightly better HD player however overall, unless you have the elite 360 with HDMI out.

CDsDontBurn

actually, all newer 360s come w/HDMI out. i got my 360 arcade (basically a premium but no 20GB HDD) and it came w/HDMI out

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mainman

yeah with the above then normal failure rate of the xbox 360 all old consoles will be replaced sooner or later with a hdmi one.

BlueMak

About the new 360 consoles with the HDMI, you can still connect them through the VGA, right?

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SFOSOK

HDDVD Add on for 360 only goes up to 720p then upconverts.

Yes

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BlueMak

Is that a limitation of connection, player, or technology?

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

SFOSOK

I'm pretty sure its either because its through USB or the player itself doesn't support it

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Lowfat

My elite isn't too bad when not gaming. But as soon as you start to gamn wow is is annoying. I don't know if it is the optical drive or the blower, but it drives me nuts. Definitely on quiet games like Assassin's Creed

But I don't own either a PS3 or the HD-DVD add-on so I can't comment really on them.

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Lowfat

If they are quieter now I'd hate to hear the old ones. My 360 is still probably 5-6x louder than either my PC or my Mac

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BlueMak

I bought mine in August-September 2006. It is quiet, I can't hear it when my PC is on (and my PC isn't loud), but in games where the DVD is in there..boy, it can be very loud. I hope they do something about it, probably in the next generation, cause it is a big minus.
As for games and how they look on these two consoles. From the screenshots I see, the 360 look more vibrant, where the PS3 look with different not lighting, but like different gamma setting.
The graphics to me are almost the same. If both consoles had the same games out, came out at the same time, and the PS3 was closer to the 360 price, then I am not sure if I would be a 360 owner now and not a PS3 one. Plus the total "kick you in the nuts" attitude of Microsoft about Xbox Live users in Greece (and other countries from what I read), is an extra reason to want to avoid the 360.
For those that don't know, you can't buy points, buy videos and almost every day buy more and more games or even download many demos (IP filtering) cause there is no official Live in Greece. So when one has to choose for a console in Greece, everything good about the 360's Live, is no more. Where from what I hear, Sony has proper support...

But yes, for just how game graphics look, I would give a slight edge to the 360, but nothing to gloat about.

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

SFOSOK

If you want "Hi-Def" buy a standalone player made for your needs.

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interspaced

I wouldn't for blu ray playback. The PS3 is the only player out there likely to support the online features of blu ray out the current players out there. Best to either get a PS3 or wait until the CES 2008 players make it to market.

If you're not interested in online features I believe the current high end panasonic supports the PIP features.

Pluvious

yep... here's the scoop.

None of the Profile 1.0 players can be upgraded to Profile 1.1, which was finalized recently, with the exception of the PlayStation 3 -- whose update arrived in mid-December. Likewise, Profile 2.0 is expected to arrive in October bringing Internet connectivity that Profile 1.1 players lack.

Blu-ray: Early adopters knew what they were getting into

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