Doom 3

BlueMak · Dec 13, 2007, 01:58 PM

So, I decided to finaly play this game more than a couple of levels and finish it.
All is going well, though the lack of flashlight on the weapons or some night vision goggles is weird, but there is one thing that I don't know if it is just on my end or the game was supposed to be that way.
My weapons (pistol, shotgun, rifle, so far) sound almost like they have sound suppressors on. Like BB guns or something. Is this normal?

Everything else is fine, good game so far.

Stop It · Dec 13, 2007, 09:42 PM

Sounds weird, the flashlight is supposed to light up a small area yes, but I wouldn't call it's effect weird, also the sounds are supposed to be meaty, have you tried patching the game? (An update enables OpenAL, which helps lots).

Lelisevis · Dec 13, 2007, 10:16 PM

Have you tried the flashlight/duct tape mod? I find the game pretty unplayable without it and not half as good.

OmegaRED · Dec 13, 2007, 10:33 PM

Ya, you'll definitely want to get one of the flashlight mods. One of them improved the lighting effects for the flashlight making it more realistic too.

Dark Lord · Dec 13, 2007, 10:38 PM

i just stick with the doom3 coop. the game is quite fun that way.

BlueMak · Dec 14, 2007, 04:11 AM

I didn't call the flashlight effect weird. I said the decision to not have a flashlight on some of the weapons, or have as a marine some night vision equipment, weird.

openAL? Don't know about that.
I use about 2 years old sound drivers (found them to be the most stable under XP) for my x-fi. I get the option for EAX 4.0, which I have enabled.
All my weapons sound as I said, just like they are behind a wall or under thick pillows or something.
The game is patched with the latest patch yes.

I am in the mission entering/starting Alpha Labs 3.
The game is fine, and I am almost used to the lack of lights, but the sound is a bit of a down. I mean, all sounds are very clear, from voices to background noises, monsters, chatter etc. But my guns. Or I am too demanding and the game is like that for all and it is just me that thinks they do not sound right.

Vikingod · Dec 14, 2007, 04:26 AM

I think you might be expecting too much out of the sounds. I personally found them to be pretty bland, especially for the guns. The "under a pillow" analogy is a good way to put it.

Mr cairo · Dec 14, 2007, 09:32 AM

do your weapons sound anything like this i know theres music but it should give you some idea ??

YouTube - Doom 3 Gameplay demo

YouTube - Doom 3 Gameplay

YouTube - Doom 3 Gameplay

BlueMak · Dec 14, 2007, 12:17 PM

My own guns Different.
I disabled EAX 4.0 HD in the game options and after a restart the shotgun sounds much better. I don't kow of course about the rest of the game. I will give it a try.

Thanks all.

BlueMak · Dec 14, 2007, 07:00 PM

After more gaming like this, I turned EAX 4.0 on.
Gaining a better sound for the shotgun, but losing all the rest nice details is not worth it for me.

I think I am about at least half way through the game and I can now see how not including some proper night vision equipment helps the game. It would make it too easy if there was more light in the game.
Still, a fun game.

ViRuS2k · Dec 16, 2007, 06:07 PM

You need to install a few mods for this game to make it awsome.

Paralex mapping + better weapon sounds + highres textures on enemys.

makes the game 100x better looking.

also there is a mod to make the flashlight mode WIDE, and also a mod to replace the textures of weapons to more HIGHDEF looking aswell as a mod to add the flashlight to all weapons..

and dont forget to tweak the games settings to add more particals and other effects aswell as better shadows.

this game is highly tweakable.. once all those fixes tweaks and mods are installed you will fully enjoy it more...

OmegaRED · Dec 16, 2007, 06:52 PM

FYI, don't forget the Doom 3 expansion it lets you use a gravity gun.

BlueMak · Dec 16, 2007, 06:57 PM

Possible spoiler included.

What is that paralex mapping?

I don't know, the game looks pretty good to me as it is now.
I do see how higher resolution textures would be nice, but I have no complaints about how they look now.

As for the flashlight(s), I don't think I want a change to that now. I am used to the limited lights in the game. I think I am near the end now (I am in the mission that says find the portal).

Still, any specific mods that you might want to suggest in case I want to play the game again, would be nice

Oh, one gameplay/story question. At one point I had to make a decision about who to trust, my sergeant or that other guy. Does it change the game (missions etc) depending who I choose?

BlueMak · Dec 16, 2007, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaRED

FYI, don't forget the Doom 3 expansion it lets you use a gravity gun.

Yeah, I have that installed too. I plan on playing it after I finish Doom3.

ViRuS2k · Dec 16, 2007, 09:35 PM

paralex mapping adds texture bump mapping to the game

makes the game look a lot better and stand out more graphicly.

and about your other question its been ages since i last played the game i cant remember if that affects the game play... i dont think it does, im sure the game still ends the same.

BlueMak · Dec 16, 2007, 11:07 PM

I have to say so far I have problems only with one specific enemy. The guy that has an arm as a whip. Very annoying.
Everything else, no problem.

To add texture bump mapping, shouldn't the game have the files in the first place? Else, we are talking about a large amount of data.

Oh, anyone else finds/found the pistol, useless? I now use it to destroy any corpses that I find, I saw on occasion two apparently dead bodies rise, so no more Mr. Nice Guy. Humans, aliens, demons, dead or alive, I destroy them.

Arklon · Dec 16, 2007, 11:56 PM

What did you all think of Tankn00b and his MES HAL? (Spoilers. They'll probably make you laugh, though.)

BlueMak · Dec 17, 2007, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arklon

What did you all think of Tankn00b and his MES HAL? (Spoilers. They'll probably make you laugh, though.)

I haven't met them yet.

Arklon · Dec 17, 2007, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMak

I haven't met them yet.

When you do, your meeting will probably last 5 seconds. Then he BLARRRARRARUHHUGHHs.

Dark Lord · Dec 17, 2007, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMak

I have to say so far I have problems only with one specific enemy. The guy that has an arm as a whip. Very annoying.
Everything else, no problem..

duck. he cant hit you.

Shaga · Dec 18, 2007, 12:14 AM

This game is very entertaining on coop, you should try it out also.

BlueMak · Dec 18, 2007, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Lord

duck. he cant hit you.

LOL, I don't think I used the duck/crouch once in the game till you mentioned it. Thank you.

I am in Hell or "Hell" now. Surprisingly not as difficult at this part as I thought it would be. Funny that the lighting in Hell is better than on a Mars' colony.

Beautiful game.

Co-op? Nah, Don't have the buddies necessary to play this game co-op.

Arklon · Dec 18, 2007, 01:42 AM

Co-op is the only way to play this game. :P
I've found the OpenCoop mod to be better than the Last Man Standing Co-op mod after playing each quite a bit. LMS is nice for its extra maps/game types, but it's just too buggy and has terrible netcode.

Dark Lord · Dec 18, 2007, 02:35 AM

ya, me and a couple friends do opencoop. its very fun with the 3 of us.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Jan 3, 2008, 09:14 PM

this game was so boring and unfrightening, i had to uninstall it. quake 4 was more creepy and action packed. when they change him into a strogg was just disgusting.

**Mousey** · Jan 3, 2008, 09:39 PM

I quite enjoyed Doom 3, i can't remember where i read it but i'm sure i read a really good quote.
"Doom 3 uses one of the most advanced, highly scaleable game engines today, just a shame there's no light to see anything".
the few criticisms i did have were that the torch beam was way too small, absolutely useless and there's TOO MUCH DARKNESS ALL THE FRICKEN TIME..

RoyBatty · Jan 3, 2008, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousey

TOO MUCH DARKNESS ALL THE FRICKEN TIME..

That's what Doom 3 is all about.

**Mousey** · Jan 3, 2008, 09:55 PM

How are we supposed to admit ID's hard work when there's no damned light?

RoyBatty · Jan 3, 2008, 10:52 PM

I think that there is enough light for both admiring ID's hard work and enjoying the game.

Arklon · Jan 4, 2008, 02:31 AM

The darkness can get pretty annoying at times, but on the other hand, the game's atmosphere would be destroyed with more light.

Dec 13, 2007, 01:58 PM	#1
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,465 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Doom 3 So, I decided to finaly play this game more than a couple of levels and finish it. All is going well, though the lack of flashlight on the weapons or some night vision goggles is weird, but there is one thing that I don't know if it is just on my end or the game was supposed to be that way. My weapons (pistol, shotgun, rifle, so far) sound almost like they have sound suppressors on. Like BB guns or something. Is this normal? Everything else is fine, good game so far. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Dec 13, 2007, 09:42 PM	#2
Stop It HHs' Resident Kitty Lover Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Biggleswade, UK Posts: 1,431 Rep Power: 78 System Specs	Sounds weird, the flashlight is supposed to light up a small area yes, but I wouldn't call it's effect weird, also the sounds are supposed to be meaty, have you tried patching the game? (An update enables OpenAL, which helps lots). __________________ Sig Courtesy of Mousey

Dec 13, 2007, 10:33 PM	#4
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	Ya, you'll definitely want to get one of the flashlight mods. One of them improved the lighting effects for the flashlight making it more realistic too. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Dec 13, 2007, 10:38 PM	#5
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 125 System Specs	i just stick with the doom3 coop. the game is quite fun that way. __________________

Dec 14, 2007, 04:11 AM	Thread Starter #6
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,465 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	I didn't call the flashlight effect weird. I said the decision to not have a flashlight on some of the weapons, or have as a marine some night vision equipment, weird. openAL? Don't know about that. I use about 2 years old sound drivers (found them to be the most stable under XP) for my x-fi. I get the option for EAX 4.0, which I have enabled. All my weapons sound as I said, just like they are behind a wall or under thick pillows or something. The game is patched with the latest patch yes. I am in the mission entering/starting Alpha Labs 3. The game is fine, and I am almost used to the lack of lights, but the sound is a bit of a down. I mean, all sounds are very clear, from voices to background noises, monsters, chatter etc. But my guns. Or I am too demanding and the game is like that for all and it is just me that thinks they do not sound right. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Dec 13, 2007, 10:16 PM	#3
Lelisevis Howlin at the moon Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,663 Rep Power: 0	Have you tried the flashlight/duct tape mod? I find the game pretty unplayable without it and not half as good.

Dec 14, 2007, 04:26 AM	#7
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	I think you might be expecting too much out of the sounds. I personally found them to be pretty bland, especially for the guns. The "under a pillow" analogy is a good way to put it.

Dec 14, 2007, 09:32 AM	#8
Mr cairo F0rum For Humans Only Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Slightly to the left Posts: 1,780 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	do your weapons sound anything like this i know theres music but it should give you some idea ?? YouTube - Doom 3 Gameplay demo YouTube - Doom 3 Gameplay YouTube - Doom 3 Gameplay __________________ *Please consider Sponsoring my wife for the race for life*

Dec 14, 2007, 12:17 PM	Thread Starter #9
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,465 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	My own guns Different. I disabled EAX 4.0 HD in the game options and after a restart the shotgun sounds much better. I don't kow of course about the rest of the game. I will give it a try. Thanks all. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Dec 14, 2007, 07:00 PM	Thread Starter #10
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,465 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	After more gaming like this, I turned EAX 4.0 on. Gaining a better sound for the shotgun, but losing all the rest nice details is not worth it for me. I think I am about at least half way through the game and I can now see how not including some proper night vision equipment helps the game. It would make it too easy if there was more light in the game. Still, a fun game. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Dec 16, 2007, 06:07 PM	#11
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	You need to install a few mods for this game to make it awsome. Paralex mapping + better weapon sounds + highres textures on enemys. makes the game 100x better looking. also there is a mod to make the flashlight mode WIDE, and also a mod to replace the textures of weapons to more HIGHDEF looking aswell as a mod to add the flashlight to all weapons.. and dont forget to tweak the games settings to add more particals and other effects aswell as better shadows. this game is highly tweakable.. once all those fixes tweaks and mods are installed you will fully enjoy it more...

Dec 16, 2007, 06:52 PM	#12
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	FYI, don't forget the Doom 3 expansion it lets you use a gravity gun. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Dec 16, 2007, 06:57 PM	Thread Starter #13
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,465 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Possible spoiler included. What is that paralex mapping? I don't know, the game looks pretty good to me as it is now. I do see how higher resolution textures would be nice, but I have no complaints about how they look now. As for the flashlight(s), I don't think I want a change to that now. I am used to the limited lights in the game. I think I am near the end now (I am in the mission that says find the portal). Still, any specific mods that you might want to suggest in case I want to play the game again, would be nice Oh, one gameplay/story question. At one point I had to make a decision about who to trust, my sergeant or that other guy. Does it change the game (missions etc) depending who I choose? __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Dec 16, 2007, 09:35 PM	#15
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	paralex mapping adds texture bump mapping to the game makes the game look a lot better and stand out more graphicly. and about your other question its been ages since i last played the game i cant remember if that affects the game play... i dont think it does, im sure the game still ends the same.

Dec 16, 2007, 11:07 PM	Thread Starter #16
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,465 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	I have to say so far I have problems only with one specific enemy. The guy that has an arm as a whip. Very annoying. Everything else, no problem. To add texture bump mapping, shouldn't the game have the files in the first place? Else, we are talking about a large amount of data. Oh, anyone else finds/found the pistol, useless? I now use it to destroy any corpses that I find, I saw on occasion two apparently dead bodies rise, so no more Mr. Nice Guy. Humans, aliens, demons, dead or alive, I destroy them. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Dec 16, 2007, 11:56 PM	#17
Arklon HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 163 Rep Power: 0	What did you all think of Tankn00b and his MES HAL? (Spoilers. They'll probably make you laugh, though.)

Dec 18, 2007, 12:14 AM	#21
Shaga Intelligent Life Form Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nordic Region Posts: 383 Rep Power: 48 System Specs	This game is very entertaining on coop, you should try it out also. __________________ Server: Currently Offline

Dec 18, 2007, 01:42 AM	#23
Arklon HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 163 Rep Power: 0	Co-op is the only way to play this game. :P I've found the OpenCoop mod to be better than the Last Man Standing Co-op mod after playing each quite a bit. LMS is nice for its extra maps/game types, but it's just too buggy and has terrible netcode.

Dec 18, 2007, 02:35 AM	#24
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 125 System Specs	ya, me and a couple friends do opencoop. its very fun with the 3 of us. __________________

Jan 3, 2008, 09:14 PM	#25
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	this game was so boring and unfrightening, i had to uninstall it. quake 4 was more creepy and action packed. when they change him into a strogg was just disgusting. __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Jan 3, 2008, 09:39 PM	#26
Mousey Synth's Long Lost Bro Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Web Design Hell Posts: 7,188 Rep Power: 245 System Specs	I quite enjoyed Doom 3, i can't remember where i read it but i'm sure i read a really good quote. "Doom 3 uses one of the most advanced, highly scaleable game engines today, just a shame there's no light to see anything". the few criticisms i did have were that the torch beam was way too small, absolutely useless and there's TOO MUCH DARKNESS ALL THE FRICKEN TIME.. __________________

Jan 3, 2008, 09:55 PM	#28
Mousey Synth's Long Lost Bro Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Web Design Hell Posts: 7,188 Rep Power: 245 System Specs	How are we supposed to admit ID's hard work when there's no damned light? __________________

Jan 3, 2008, 10:52 PM	#29
RoyBatty HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,941 Rep Power: 122 System Specs	I think that there is enough light for both admiring ID's hard work and enjoying the game.

Jan 4, 2008, 02:31 AM	#30
Arklon HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 163 Rep Power: 0	The darkness can get pretty annoying at times, but on the other hand, the game's atmosphere would be destroyed with more light.