comp_ali

I want to buy one of those , the Xbox one is relatively cheaper than Logitech but does it worth . Also I would like to hear from people who tried any of them , the handling ... etc ?
Forgot to say , I mean the wired one . I hate wireless , I had one of them. Even though I bought a rechargeable batteries , I found after many times of use , the battery life decreases dramatically . Anyway , the point is NO wireless.

Thanks.

Judas

was going to suggest the wireless adapter + xbox360 controller with recharge kit = awesome

but... now i don't know what to suggest

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Dyre Straits

I've been using the 360 wired controller for about 3 years. Awesome controller.

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comp_ali

Good to hear , I have bought loads of low end controller and they always die after a a couples of months at best.

dj_stick

been using a generic 360 controller, I think by Madcatz, for the last 4-5 years on-off, no issues whatsoever, even got it working in OS X

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Tipstaff

I'd still recommend the wired 360 pad. More and more games that have gamepad support these days by default have button layouts for the 360 pad in mind. Any other pad, and you'll be reconfiguring the pad to suit the game you are playing... if you can, that is. Mind you, the drawback for the 360 pad (be it wired or wireless) is the center point for the analog sticks. I had one pad where the left analog stick wouldn't always sit at it's center, and I would get drift from it (was a pain in the ass when playing racing games).

As for the Logitech Rumblepad2 or the Dual Action Gaming Pad, both are solid pads that feel like exactly like a PS2 controller. If I had to choose I'd take the Rumbepad2 as the digital control pad is the standard floating design, while the Dual Actions pad, while a little smoother, can be a problem due to the surrounding housing (the housing is indented around the pad, and not a smooth circle).

The only other one I can think of that you may want to look at is the upcoming Razer Onza. My friend got a chance to try it at CES, and was really impressed with it. "Best wired 360 pad he's ever used". Comes with a 15 foot cord, adjustable tension for the analog sticks (great for flight sims), and reassignable buttons (done via switches on the back). Only problem: expensive. Estimated price is something like $60.

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dipstick

360 controller for sure, especially if its cheaper. Tipstaff pretty much nailed everything you need to know

comp_ali

Thanks Tipstaff , I really likes the look of the Razer Onza , apart from the price , Razer products don't arrive here in the first place , probably very few people would buy those high end stuff. The Choices between my hands now are either Xbox controller or Logitech (don't remember the model).
About your Xbox pad that has a problem in the left analog stick , did you found it like that after buying or it just went like that after usage.

BlueMak

I have bought/used 3 Xbox 360 controllers, 2 wireless and 1 wired ones. All of them at some point had the issue with the left stick being slightly off centre, sooner or later in their life. I don't exactly punish my controllers or use them THAT many hours...
They are still very good controllers.

For the last couple of months I have been using the PS3 Dualshock 3 controller for my PS3. I don't know if there is a way or version to work under Windows, but if there is, I find it a better controller. The buttons feel much better with their lower profile. The only negative (apart that I don't know if there is a PC version) is that the "trigger" buttons are smaller than the Xbox 360 controller and the L2 and R2 in particular are not shaped as triggers as much as the 360's.
I can't speak for durability but so far it still feels like brand new.

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Tipstaff

There's your reason, comp. The first pad I bought was the wired one. That was when it first came out, almost a year I think prior to the wireless PC adapter coming out (which I bought when it did). That pad, right off the bat, had that off center issue. To be honest it's not really an off center issue, but more specifically the analog stick is.... let's put it this way: there is wiggle room between the stick casing and the activator mechanism, and as such I can wiggle the stick without actually causing the controller to sense movement. If I leave it alone, say when I'm racing down a straightaway, it'll drift a bit if I had gradually moved the stick to the center position rather than having let it go to resettle at that position. <gawd.. I'm making this sound so complicated >

As Blue pointed out, however, 360 controllers eventually have this problem (all my wireless ones do), but (and this is a big but) what is really funny is that this drift thing has never happened on the 360 unit itself for me with the wired controller. It only does this when hooked up to the PC.

Even so, I still recommend the 360 controller for all the reasons I mentioned in my earlier post, but also for one other reason: comfort. The PS3 controller, while a great pad, still is not as comfortable to hold as the 360 controller when using the analog sticks. I play with the balls of my thumbs on the pads, not the tips. When using the 360 controller, if I have to push the sticks into each other (so -> and <-) my thumbs don't bang up against each other thanks to their spacing, and the fact that the left stick is higher than the right one. On the PS3 controller (and every PS controller before that) I'm always hitting my thumbs against each other when I do a move like that, and I'm sure the same thing would happen with the Logitech ones too. If that's not a problem for you, then.. err.. um... it's not going to be a problem then.

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comp_ali

I don't play racing games with gamepads , I only play football games , I hope this issue won't affect me much , have you tried football with this xbox pad?

Dyre Straits

The only Football game I have is Madden 2004 and I don't even recall having ever installed it. :/ I believe the ONLY reason I bought it was because it had Michael Vick's pic on the cover and now....after his arrest, conviction and jail time...I don't think I ever will.

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comp_ali

lol , sorry , I mean soccer. like pro evolution soccer or fifa

Dyre Straits

Ah, yes.... the classic "football" confusion between the USA and the rest of the world.

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BlueMak

There is no confusion. As much as I love the USA, they are just plain wrong on this one.

Ali, I have played only sensible soccer on the Xbox controller and some PE on the PS3 (2 years ago, not on my system). So....I can't help since they are nothing alike lol. However, the (I think) smaller distances in the PS3 Dualshock 3 controller should make it better at football. Playing Sensible Soccer with the 360 controller is just not good enough. The D-pad is worthless for diagonal movement and the sticks have way too much distance to react fast enough.

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

comp_ali

hmmm , that doesn't good. The only reason I was going to buy the pads for are the soccer games.

Tipstaff

I've never had a problem with the 45 degree diagonal on the 360 controller, it's the in-between that kills it for me. When you rotate the pad you feel each "step" of 45 degree movement, so precise in-between diagonal is a problem. With the PS3 pad though, it is a smooth 360 degree rotation. No "steps". I can't say if the Logitech Rumblepad2 has the same feel to it (I just don't remember to be honest), but you could try posting in their PC Gaming forum to find that out, or even contact their customer service.

Edit: well well well.. looks like Logitech "just" removed the Dual Action controller from their website.

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niceguyrichy

i use a playstation type controller for FIFA, and like it very much.
never liked the feel of the xbox controller one little bit, hate it in fact.
so for me personally i'd be getting something like a logitech dual thingy
edit: just having a little play there after reading tips post. i play with the tops of my thumbs level with the edge of the sticks, and never have a problem with thumbs clashing. but i can see how if you played with the stick further down your thumb how you're gonna have problems. guess it depends on how you hold your gamepad.


(and yeah, you lot are completely wrong with the football / 'soccer' thing )

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OmegaRED

I'd never buy a gamepad other than the PC 360 gamepad because so many good PC games have built in support specifically for this device. It's not worth the trouble using programs to trick games into thinking some other pad is a 360 gamepad (which is what I did with my PS3 gamepad).

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BlueMak

OmegaRED, how did you make the PS3 pad work on the PC?

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

OmegaRED

MotioninJoy | Dualshock 3 driver|Sixaxis driver|DS3 tool|PC Game|PS3 Game

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BlueMak

Thank you.

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

Tipstaff

Yes, thank you very much, Omega.

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anonemus

I'm in the market for a good gamepad and searched through the past threads. I was leaning towards a Logitech Rumblepad 2 until I read this thread. Now I'm going for a wired Xbox controller as my son and I really love Batman AA!

Is the MS Xbox controller all the same? Is there a newer version than this one?

Tipstaff

Pretty much all the same. They sell a PC wired version for more money, but it's just a wired 360 controller anyways. MS also sells a wireless controller for the PC that comes with the wireless receiver, or you can buy the receiver separately if you already have a wireless 360 controller.

Of note, if you are using XP be sure to go to the Windows Update site. There will be updated drivers for the controller there. If using Vista/Windows 7, be sure that you have Windows Update setup to receive updates for other things, and again, an updated driver will show up for the controller.

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OmegaRED

I bought the Xbox 360 controller for Windows also, works great.

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anonemus

Thanks Tipstaff and Omega! All very helpful info!

BTW, where can I see a list of Xbox controller compatible PC games?

Tipstaff

There was a wiki page at one time, but it since has been pulled. The one on Wikibin is a "save" of sorts of that page.. The only other one I can think of is an unofficial one on Giant Bomb, but it's not sorted.. not even alphabetically.

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anonemus

@Tipstaff-- EXACTLY what I'm looking for, especially the Wikibin link! Thanks a lot!

Rayder

I don't know what I did wrong some months ago, but I bought a wireless 360 controller for our Vista machine and I could never get it to be recognized by any games (ones that REQUIRED an X-Box controller) even after installing drivers for it. Seems I rem people telling me (after the fact, of course) that the wireless X-Box controller didn't work on PC's at that time. I guess that has since changed? I would have used a wired one, but it was our HTPC and a wired one would not have worked out, so I tried to use a wireless one and failed miserably. I said screw it and forced my Logitech to work.

I now just use a Logitech Wingman Rumblepad II and those homebrew drivers that will make the system think you're using an X-Box controller that you just drop into a game's install path and it works fine for me. The Wingman controllers have all the same buttons as an X-Box controller anyway.

I really don't like that game companies are dropping support for PC controllers we've been using for years and are trying to force you into an overpriced X-Box controller. My PC is NOT an X-Box.