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Zardon · Nov 4, 2004, 06:08 PM

Anyone played the demo yet? its destruction derby on the PC, nice engine, great damage !

demo is on gamershell.

BWX · Nov 4, 2004, 06:15 PM

I played it last night for a couple hours with my FF wheel and pedals.. The GFX engine is really nice, the car handling is definitely arcade, no sim here.. The high jump competition is freaking funny, the game seems like it will be fun.

It could be excellent with better/more realistic physics, but I guess the world wants arcade racers these days. The damage modeling and visuals are top notch though, pretty impressive.

Danhill · Nov 4, 2004, 06:21 PM

Yeah, I agree with you there BWX, this game is on my want list as soon as it gets out in stores here in Sweden.

I've been waiting for such a game.

Man it's going to be a crazy autum/christmas, I'm also buying HL2, NFSU2, Medal of honor Passific assault. I'm getting poorer after buying those games but I'm going to have lots of fun though

Rayder · Nov 4, 2004, 07:34 PM

I played it. Runs well for a demo. The physics on the dirt track is atrocious....fish-tailing all over the place and the auto-braking makes it even worse when cornering. The tarmac level is decent though and handles much better. I didn't care for the 'crash-test-dummy' high-jump mini-game myself. Just seems gimmicky to me. Crash-and-bash racing is what I want out of it and it appears that this game will have that in spades. The difficulty seems a little steep....but I didn't play it that extensively to get a real feel for the controls. I'm using a Saitek Dual-analog Rumblepad....

Graphics are pretty good and ran pretty smoothly on the rig in my sig at 1600x1200 4xAA 8xAF. There were times when the framerate would bog a little, but it wasn't show-stopping and appears to have nothing to do with resolution. As expected, the damage modeling is exquisite.

One thing I noticed is that , for all the damage the car takes, there never seems to be a point where the car stops running. You can drive down the road with your engine on fire. You also get no degradation to the (already bad) handling or engine power.

Yep, the game is severely arcade-ish. I hope the final release will be tweaked a little more to improve the handling.

This is one of the very few games on my must-have list. That hasn't changed, though I'm a little less impressed with it after playing the demo.

BWX · Nov 4, 2004, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rayder

The tarmac level is decent though and handles much better. I didn't care for the 'crash-test-dummy' high-jump mini-game myself. Just seems gimmicky to me.

I was ROTFLMFAO at that part of the game..

Zardon · Nov 4, 2004, 08:35 PM

Its far from perfect but really enjoyable - not sure how that will translate to many weeks of gaming mind you.

I had a funny accident, crashed right into the back of another car which had stopped, my driver then went through the windscreen, over the car in front and landed on the roof of the car in front of that, then the car drove on with the dummy hanging off the roof. looks like it will be quite a bit of carnage with this one

snake · Nov 4, 2004, 08:41 PM

GREAT FUN !!!

A special mention to the eagle jump contest mode

Totaly insane, tough to handle but playable anyway

Ev!L-aLphA · Nov 4, 2004, 11:14 PM

I liked the game for the first like 30 min but than it got boaring lol.

the damage is awesome xept it wont damage any more after ur engine is burnin. the graphics are sweet n the sounds are ok lol.

fun game i have to say

Danhill · Nov 5, 2004, 06:04 PM

lol found this clip

[color=#0000dd]http://neobot.free.fr/flatout/roofparty.avi[/color]

Vampyromaniac · Nov 5, 2004, 06:23 PM

o shi.. that looks like fun

snake · Nov 5, 2004, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danhill

lol found this clip

TERRIFIC

Danhill · Nov 5, 2004, 07:20 PM

I played again this game is really fun, the graphics are wonderful and performance to, but the best thing got to be the psychics and the interaction with the course and all this driver out of the seat when driving the opposite way is very funny.

I loved the high jump too, btw my record is 275 m.

Zardon · Nov 5, 2004, 08:09 PM

Do you think it will have long term playability Dan ?

SkyBum · Nov 5, 2004, 09:29 PM

I've been waiting paitently for this game ever since it was announced. After playing the demo I think they delivered what they promised. It's a bit on the arcade side for my tastes but it's quite obvious that they didn't set out to build a racing sim so I won't hold that against them. Given the physics of the world and the car damage, it looks like it will keep plenty of people entertained in great style. The addition of some crazy stunt options will only add to the overall enjoyment. I imagine the novelty will wear off sooner than later, but in the meantime I expect to have some great laughs over this game.

I'll definitely add it to my collection, though I see it more as a novelty than anything else.

BWX · Nov 6, 2004, 01:36 AM

It would be a lot better if the car handling was more realistic- as it is, the game isn't even fun for me because the car handling physics is so painfully simple... Of course I like Richard Burns Rally, and most people can't even play it, so I imagine I am in the minority.

mkk · Nov 6, 2004, 12:12 PM

A tip for a bit more control when playing through the keyboard. Edit options.cfg and set "Settings.Control.DigitalSteeringMaxSpeed = 2.5000" and "Settings.Control.DigitalSteeringMinSpeed = 1.5000", or to similar values depending on how much more control you want. Before I felt that one could oftenly not turn the car when you needed to.

Promising demo, though I hope the full game to have some all over improvements on controls and physics. Perhaps being able to select different cars and/or setups for different courses can make a good difference. At least it gets me dreaming back to the days of playing the good old Screamer 2.

(full res screenshot

)

Sandok · Nov 6, 2004, 12:30 PM

this demo was really fun. Great phyiscs! Only thing I don't like, if the guy is moving too fast, he goes INTO stuff but hell... It's damn fun!!!

One of my crashes: Safety is useless...

Danhill · Nov 6, 2004, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

Do you think it will have long term playability Dan ?

Well it's hard to say, I've only tried the demo so far, but I think that this is one of those games that you play alot in the begining cause it does not exists similiar games on the market and then you forget about, but thats my impression, I bet you get a laugh so in the begining but doing the same thing later on might be boring.

I'll let you know in a months or so what I feel about the game then.

BWX · Nov 6, 2004, 06:24 PM

The graphics are really amazing to me though. If you get into a spot where there are 7 or 8 fully detailed and damaged cars in your view, it really looks quite impressive. Even at 1200 x 900 with AA and AF enabled I always got very smooth and playable framerate. They really did a great job in that respect. I wish they came out with a "Sim" mode (driving physics) or something, then this game would really be great.

Zardon · Nov 6, 2004, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWX

I wish they came out with a "Sim" mode (driving physics) or something, then this game would really be great.

god no ! sim modes are for games like richard burns or whatever you guys play, something like this is meant to be fun, a blast, just wham, bam, thank you mam !

Sargentwhitey · Nov 6, 2004, 06:38 PM

I loved Screamer 2! I used to play that on my old Celeron 400 a while back.. of course with my 3DFX Voodoo 3 2000 PCI.. which I still use for my secondary monitor

BWX · Nov 6, 2004, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

god no ! sim modes are for games like richard burns or whatever you guys play, something like this is meant to be fun, a blast, just wham, bam, thank you mam !

Well actually I was thinking about a "slightly more realistic" mode.. I played with a FF wheel and it was pretty good, but has potential to be more "accurate" I guess you could say.

I'm not thinking of a mode where it handles like RBR, (I think that would be fun though)- I'm talking about a mode where it handles somewhere in between the way it is now, and RBR....

To clarify, I don't want to change the way it handles now, just add another mode. (not that it will happen anyway - I know it won't, I'm just thinking out loud here)

Zardon · Nov 6, 2004, 06:49 PM

Well I have to say I hope they tweak the handling a little, I found it even a little "skiddy" when I played it, like the car was on ice... but its hard to judge a full game on a very small demo.

Sandok · Nov 6, 2004, 06:54 PM

I find the game was perfect driving wise... Not easy... Not tough... No need for tweaking imho!

Danhill · Nov 6, 2004, 07:08 PM

Well I broke a new personal record in the high jump, 290 m

Danhill · Nov 6, 2004, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWX

The graphics are really amazing to me though. If you get into a spot where there are 7 or 8 fully detailed and damaged cars in your view, it really looks quite impressive. Even at 1200 x 900 with AA and AF enabled I always got very smooth and playable framerate. They really did a great job in that respect. I wish they came out with a "Sim" mode (driving physics) or something, then this game would really be great.

Yeah I agree with you there BWX, I don't get it how they could do such a great job, the game runs extremly smooth for me too at 1280x768 8AA&16AF

Sandok · Nov 7, 2004, 11:20 AM

I don't know how you guys do that... At 1280x1024 I get great frames (70 is my resfrsh rate... drops maybe lowest to 55/60) but as soon as I put max AF and AA, I got 18 fps!!!

Danhill · Nov 7, 2004, 11:27 AM

What card do you have Sandok

Nov 4, 2004, 06:08 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Flatout Anyone played the demo yet? its destruction derby on the PC, nice engine, great damage ! demo is on gamershell.

Nov 4, 2004, 06:21 PM	#3
Danhill DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,112 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, I agree with you there BWX, this game is on my want list as soon as it gets out in stores here in Sweden. I've been waiting for such a game. Man it's going to be a crazy autum/christmas, I'm also buying HL2, NFSU2, Medal of honor Passific assault. I'm getting poorer after buying those games but I'm going to have lots of fun though __________________ MOBO: [color=white]ASUS A8N-SLI Premium[/color] CPU: AMD 64 3200+ (Venice) @ 2,50 Ghz MEM: 2 x 512 DDR 466, VGA: 2 x 6600 GT in SLI, HDD1: WD Raptor HDD2: Maxtor Diamond Plus 9, Case: Antec Plus View 1080, PSU: ThermalTake PurePower 500W, MX 1000, Dell 2001 FP, Aud. 2 SZ

Nov 4, 2004, 08:41 PM	#7
snake HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: France Posts: 422 Rep Power: 65 System Specs	GREAT FUN !!! A special mention to the eagle jump contest mode Totaly insane, tough to handle but playable anyway __________________ i7 930@4Ghz-DFI T3EH6-6Go OCZPC12800-GTX480+8800GT Barton 2600+@2.16 (188x11.5) # GeForce 6800 GT@Ultra 1.5Go PC3200 #Asus A7N8X Deluxe Bios 1008 26397 3DMark06/ 57736 3DMark01/163152 Aquamark3

Nov 4, 2004, 11:14 PM	#8
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 0	I liked the game for the first like 30 min but than it got boaring lol. the damage is awesome xept it wont damage any more after ur engine is burnin. the graphics are sweet n the sounds are ok lol. fun game i have to say __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08

Nov 5, 2004, 06:04 PM	#9
Danhill DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,112 Rep Power: 0	lol found this clip [color=#0000dd]http://neobot.free.fr/flatout/roofparty.avi[/color] __________________ MOBO: [color=white]ASUS A8N-SLI Premium[/color] CPU: AMD 64 3200+ (Venice) @ 2,50 Ghz MEM: 2 x 512 DDR 466, VGA: 2 x 6600 GT in SLI, HDD1: WD Raptor HDD2: Maxtor Diamond Plus 9, Case: Antec Plus View 1080, PSU: ThermalTake PurePower 500W, MX 1000, Dell 2001 FP, Aud. 2 SZ

Nov 4, 2004, 06:15 PM	#2
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	I played it last night for a couple hours with my FF wheel and pedals.. The GFX engine is really nice, the car handling is definitely arcade, no sim here.. The high jump competition is freaking funny, the game seems like it will be fun. It could be excellent with better/more realistic physics, but I guess the world wants arcade racers these days. The damage modeling and visuals are top notch though, pretty impressive.

Nov 4, 2004, 07:34 PM	#4
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,161 Rep Power: 73	I played it. Runs well for a demo. The physics on the dirt track is atrocious....fish-tailing all over the place and the auto-braking makes it even worse when cornering. The tarmac level is decent though and handles much better. I didn't care for the 'crash-test-dummy' high-jump mini-game myself. Just seems gimmicky to me. Crash-and-bash racing is what I want out of it and it appears that this game will have that in spades. The difficulty seems a little steep....but I didn't play it that extensively to get a real feel for the controls. I'm using a Saitek Dual-analog Rumblepad.... Graphics are pretty good and ran pretty smoothly on the rig in my sig at 1600x1200 4xAA 8xAF. There were times when the framerate would bog a little, but it wasn't show-stopping and appears to have nothing to do with resolution. As expected, the damage modeling is exquisite. One thing I noticed is that , for all the damage the car takes, there never seems to be a point where the car stops running. You can drive down the road with your engine on fire. You also get no degradation to the (already bad) handling or engine power. Yep, the game is severely arcade-ish. I hope the final release will be tweaked a little more to improve the handling. This is one of the very few games on my must-have list. That hasn't changed, though I'm a little less impressed with it after playing the demo.

Nov 4, 2004, 08:35 PM	Thread Starter #6
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Its far from perfect but really enjoyable - not sure how that will translate to many weeks of gaming mind you. I had a funny accident, crashed right into the back of another car which had stopped, my driver then went through the windscreen, over the car in front and landed on the roof of the car in front of that, then the car drove on with the dummy hanging off the roof. looks like it will be quite a bit of carnage with this one

Nov 5, 2004, 06:23 PM	#10
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	o shi.. that looks like fun __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Nov 5, 2004, 07:20 PM	#12
Danhill DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,112 Rep Power: 0	I played again this game is really fun, the graphics are wonderful and performance to, but the best thing got to be the psychics and the interaction with the course and all this driver out of the seat when driving the opposite way is very funny. I loved the high jump too, btw my record is 275 m. __________________ MOBO: [color=white]ASUS A8N-SLI Premium[/color] CPU: AMD 64 3200+ (Venice) @ 2,50 Ghz MEM: 2 x 512 DDR 466, VGA: 2 x 6600 GT in SLI, HDD1: WD Raptor HDD2: Maxtor Diamond Plus 9, Case: Antec Plus View 1080, PSU: ThermalTake PurePower 500W, MX 1000, Dell 2001 FP, Aud. 2 SZ

Nov 5, 2004, 08:09 PM	Thread Starter #13
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Do you think it will have long term playability Dan ?

Nov 5, 2004, 09:29 PM	#14
SkyBum HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Look up! Posts: 234 Rep Power: 0	I've been waiting paitently for this game ever since it was announced. After playing the demo I think they delivered what they promised. It's a bit on the arcade side for my tastes but it's quite obvious that they didn't set out to build a racing sim so I won't hold that against them. Given the physics of the world and the car damage, it looks like it will keep plenty of people entertained in great style. The addition of some crazy stunt options will only add to the overall enjoyment. I imagine the novelty will wear off sooner than later, but in the meantime I expect to have some great laughs over this game. I'll definitely add it to my collection, though I see it more as a novelty than anything else. __________________

Nov 6, 2004, 01:36 AM	#15
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	It would be a lot better if the car handling was more realistic- as it is, the game isn't even fun for me because the car handling physics is so painfully simple... Of course I like Richard Burns Rally, and most people can't even play it, so I imagine I am in the minority.

Nov 6, 2004, 12:12 PM	#16
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,490 Rep Power: 132 System Specs	A tip for a bit more control when playing through the keyboard. Edit options.cfg and set "Settings.Control.DigitalSteeringMaxSpeed = 2.5000" and "Settings.Control.DigitalSteeringMinSpeed = 1.5000", or to similar values depending on how much more control you want. Before I felt that one could oftenly not turn the car when you needed to. Promising demo, though I hope the full game to have some all over improvements on controls and physics. Perhaps being able to select different cars and/or setups for different courses can make a good difference. At least it gets me dreaming back to the days of playing the good old Screamer 2. (full res screenshot )

Nov 6, 2004, 12:30 PM	#17
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	this demo was really fun. Great phyiscs! Only thing I don't like, if the guy is moving too fast, he goes INTO stuff but hell... It's damn fun!!! One of my crashes: Safety is useless...

Nov 6, 2004, 06:24 PM	#19
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	The graphics are really amazing to me though. If you get into a spot where there are 7 or 8 fully detailed and damaged cars in your view, it really looks quite impressive. Even at 1200 x 900 with AA and AF enabled I always got very smooth and playable framerate. They really did a great job in that respect. I wish they came out with a "Sim" mode (driving physics) or something, then this game would really be great.

Nov 6, 2004, 06:38 PM	#21
Sargentwhitey Has a JOB.. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 1,473 Rep Power: 0	I loved Screamer 2! I used to play that on my old Celeron 400 a while back.. of course with my 3DFX Voodoo 3 2000 PCI.. which I still use for my secondary monitor __________________ Mobile:Intel Celeron M 1.5GHz, 40GB WD, 1GB PC24000, Intel Mediocre Graphics 2, SB Audigy 2 Notebook

Nov 6, 2004, 06:49 PM	Thread Starter #23
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Well I have to say I hope they tweak the handling a little, I found it even a little "skiddy" when I played it, like the car was on ice... but its hard to judge a full game on a very small demo.

Nov 6, 2004, 06:54 PM	#24
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	I find the game was perfect driving wise... Not easy... Not tough... No need for tweaking imho!

Nov 6, 2004, 07:08 PM	#25
Danhill DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,112 Rep Power: 0	Well I broke a new personal record in the high jump, 290 m __________________ MOBO: [color=white]ASUS A8N-SLI Premium[/color] CPU: AMD 64 3200+ (Venice) @ 2,50 Ghz MEM: 2 x 512 DDR 466, VGA: 2 x 6600 GT in SLI, HDD1: WD Raptor HDD2: Maxtor Diamond Plus 9, Case: Antec Plus View 1080, PSU: ThermalTake PurePower 500W, MX 1000, Dell 2001 FP, Aud. 2 SZ

Nov 7, 2004, 11:20 AM	#27
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	I don't know how you guys do that... At 1280x1024 I get great frames (70 is my resfrsh rate... drops maybe lowest to 55/60) but as soon as I put max AF and AA, I got 18 fps!!!

Nov 7, 2004, 11:27 AM	#28
Danhill DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,112 Rep Power: 0	What card do you have Sandok __________________ MOBO: [color=white]ASUS A8N-SLI Premium[/color] CPU: AMD 64 3200+ (Venice) @ 2,50 Ghz MEM: 2 x 512 DDR 466, VGA: 2 x 6600 GT in SLI, HDD1: WD Raptor HDD2: Maxtor Diamond Plus 9, Case: Antec Plus View 1080, PSU: ThermalTake PurePower 500W, MX 1000, Dell 2001 FP, Aud. 2 SZ