what is the best strategic game in the moment?

EDERPOTTER · Dec 12, 2004, 11:57 PM

I would like to know your opinion about this , my favorite strategy game is warcraft but i like age of mithology a lot .
It was amazing the first time i played warcraft , cuz i like rpg, strategic games, and things like undead, hobbits ...and this game has all of this...
what do u thing?

Zardon · Dec 13, 2004, 12:08 AM

moved from "submit news" forum to gaming forum.

Warhammer 40k was good.........

pr0digal jenius · Dec 13, 2004, 12:15 AM

C&C Generals Zero Hour is a bit dated...but still an AMAZING game

rjpogi · Dec 13, 2004, 01:04 AM

ROME TOTAL WAR! the best strategy game that i ever played! it really pushes you to think and plan before attacking, the battle part makes gladiator the movie and troy look bad

No_Style · Dec 13, 2004, 02:19 AM

I haven't touched an RTS game in awhile, but I still consider WC3 and FT to be great RTS games.

jfs1967 · Dec 13, 2004, 04:24 AM

Warcraft III + Frozen Throne can be found for 39.99 or less. It is accessible and not too deep, but really great with skirmish modes. And the highest AI settings are good. C&C Generals is good with more forgiving AI.

If you want more depth (i.e., have free time on your hands) try Age of Mythology or Rise Of Nations (Gold versions for 29.99 or less).

These games basically kick late comers in the hiney, though I have not tried Dawn Of War yet (I have it, but I am kind of searching for a 1.10 executable for the US version shipped patched to date (Vengeance's offering doesn't work).

I bought DSKINS and they work so I now play using those. I have heard so much about Warhammer, but I haven't really sat down with it.

Skirmmish modes really give lasting value if you are not into online play.

Empires Dawn Of The Modern World is around 19.99 and it has good AI.

Ground Countrol II is more "tactical" but has hands down the most beautiful graphics and camera work. It is based on controlling zones more than resource collection and base building.

I am kind of sorry I bought Warhammer, it was an impulse. The new RTS and Strategy games really do not bring anything new to the table worth mentioning.

Age Of Empires or Age Of Mythology Or Warcraft III is what I would recommend.

Dexsal · Dec 13, 2004, 07:46 AM

C&C Generals Zero Hour

TJ- · Dec 13, 2004, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexsal

C&C Generals Zero Hour

aggreed...

YAYitsAndrew · Dec 13, 2004, 12:36 PM

Advance Wars is THE best strategy game. I posted an online version in another thread last week.

If we're talking board games, then stratego legends is pretty damn awesome.

dsdsdk · Dec 13, 2004, 12:44 PM

1. C&C Generals
2. Warhammer 40k - DOW
3. StarCraft

rjpogi · Dec 13, 2004, 03:19 PM

anyone here played Rome Total War?

EDERPOTTER · Dec 13, 2004, 04:31 PM

yeah these games r good but u gorgot stronghold that was really good
1-Warcraft 3
2-Age of Mithology
3-Stronghold

pr0digal jenius · Dec 13, 2004, 04:33 PM

WC3 is good...and the frozen throne expansion is definately worth a look

~~Vasot~~ · Dec 13, 2004, 06:44 PM

My favourite these year
1) Ground Control 2

2) Rome Total War

I am going to buy - Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth- tomorrow

I did not like Warcraft 3 so much (it felt sooo childish and swallow especially the graphics

)
but
i loved Starcraft

riles9262 · Dec 13, 2004, 08:01 PM

Starcraft and command and conquer/red alert

Counterfe1t · Dec 13, 2004, 09:08 PM

one of the most overlooked strategy games would have to be blitzkrieg it required the use of artillery and warplanes before you could effectively use any of your tanks or infantry and pulling off a good strategy always seemed like poetry in motion. multiplayer is fun but finding is a server is difficult

jfs1967 · Dec 14, 2004, 09:27 PM

C&C Generals & C&C Generals Zero Hour:
Fun, but Single Player is "way" too easy even on the hard AI setting.

There are some levels on Warcraft III I still haven't beat on the hardest AI setting, and the story telling is superb.

YAYitsAndrew · Dec 14, 2004, 09:43 PM

There's a decent strategy game for the computer called Moonbase Commander. It looks like it was marketed for kids, but the strategy is on an adult level. Tons of fun.

Senor_Mota · Dec 15, 2004, 12:35 AM

I still play WarCraft II on battle.net. I think it might possibly be the most fun I've ever had with an RTS game. Other than that, StarCraft was pretty good...the original Command and Conquer(better than all the spinoffs), Emperor: Battle for Dune, and Homeworld 2 kicked @$$.

SD-[Inc] · Dec 16, 2004, 03:07 AM

Don't forget Rise of Nations. And my all time favorite oldie: Sacrifice!

~~Vasot~~ · Dec 18, 2004, 02:56 PM

Guys what do you think about Armies of Exigo ???

It remind me so much of Warcraft 3

Essence · Jan 21, 2005, 10:36 PM

I still think WC3/TFT are the best RTS's out there, but C&C: Genrals is really good, so that's also one the best ones.

yoda133113 · Jan 23, 2005, 07:33 AM

Rome: Total War is the most in-depth RTS I've ever played it's awesome, but you have to like the campaign part to really like the game.

Aside from that C&C Red Alert 1 is my fav with Star Craft following closely behind

Ubergrendle · Jan 27, 2005, 03:18 PM

for what its worth, i don't consider RTSes to be real strategy games -- they're fun, but they're click-fest tactical action games at best.

In terms of depth, Europa Univeralis II is probably the high-water mark for the past 2-3 years. Civilisation III is good, but its just a step up from Civ II.

I agree with Yaytitsandrew (hehe) that Advance Wars is solid -- I don't own a gameboy, but found myself addicted when I borrowed one in an emergency room ward...that 4 hour wait flew past.

I've also read good things about Korsun Pocket, but I haven't played a hardcore military sim for a few years.

YAYitsAndrew · Jan 27, 2005, 03:34 PM

My name doesn't have tits in it, dammit!

Do you stitsee the word tits in everytitsthing i type? If so you're titslooney!

Since you like advance wars, battalion at www.urbansquall.com is an online game a lot like it.

technonerd · Jan 27, 2005, 03:57 PM

Every strategic games all above is excellent :P

Frodo301 · Jan 27, 2005, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SD-[Inc]

Don't forget Rise of Nations. And my all time favorite oldie: Sacrifice!

I just picked up Sacrifice at a used vid game outlet for $3.00. Have not had much time to do more then install, looks solid though.

yoda133113 · Jan 28, 2005, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ubergrendle

for what its worth, i don't consider RTSes to be real strategy games -- they're fun, but they're click-fest tactical action games at best.

Rome: TW is a real strategy game even though it is an RTS. The campaign part is turn based and allows for a lot of strategy, and the battle part requires a good amount of strategy including direction, formation, etc. so even though most RTSes don't have strategic warfare as their front focus, Rome definately does

Ubergrendle · Jan 28, 2005, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by yoda133113

Rome: TW is a real strategy game even though it is an RTS. The campaign part is turn based and allows for a lot of strategy, and the battle part requires a good amount of strategy including direction, formation, etc. so even though most RTSes don't have strategic warfare as their front focus, Rome definately does

Sounds worth a look. Warcraft III was more RPG than strategy, and AoE is a good RTS, but just an RTS w/ the same flavour of C&C and Dune 2 etc.

Real time games can be strategic, but there must be a heavy weighting on thinking/planning vs mouse clicks. Total War Rome made alot of 'best of the year' lists so I will definitely have to try it out...

Red_Death · Jan 29, 2005, 04:23 AM

The battle for Middle Earth, RTF + Hobbits and Goblins and stuff. Really cool. I think you'll like it. I have Rome Total War, Haven't played it yet. Going to play it when I finish Vampire Bloodlines the Masquerade.

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EDERPOTTER DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: BRAZIL Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	what is the best strategic game in the moment? I would like to know your opinion about this , my favorite strategy game is warcraft but i like age of mithology a lot . It was amazing the first time i played warcraft , cuz i like rpg, strategic games, and things like undead, hobbits ...and this game has all of this... what do u thing? __________________ WOT R U LOOKING AT?...,PENTIUM4 2.40 GHZ,512MB RAM,XFXGEFORCEFX5200 256MB RAM.ASUS P4S800D.

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rjpogi DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Seoul-Tokyo Connection Posts: 235 Rep Power: 0	ROME TOTAL WAR! the best strategy game that i ever played! it really pushes you to think and plan before attacking, the battle part makes gladiator the movie and troy look bad __________________ AMD 64 +3000 Venice 2 Infineon 1 gig PC2700 333Mhz DDRAM ECS Elite nForce3a Mobo Seagate Barracuda 120GB HD SoundBlaster Audigy2 ZS Inno3D Geforce 6600 AGP

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No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	I haven't touched an RTS game in awhile, but I still consider WC3 and FT to be great RTS games. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

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Dexsal Space Monocerotis Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aust Posts: 1,401 Rep Power: 0	C&C Generals Zero Hour __________________

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YAYitsAndrew Anti-Piracy Poster Boy Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 2,605 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	Advance Wars is THE best strategy game. I posted an online version in another thread last week. If we're talking board games, then stratego legends is pretty damn awesome. __________________ "It is because the resistance to paying for copyrighted material, although often characterized as arising from a supposed technical burden or principled concern for the public interest, arises rather from exactly the same segment of the brain that is dominant in shoplifters." - Mark Helprin, Digital Barbarism In other words, it's never okay to steal even if you think you have a good reason! www.yayitsandrew.com

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Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,481 Rep Power: 162	moved from "submit news" forum to gaming forum. Warhammer 40k was good.........

Dec 13, 2004, 12:15 AM	#3
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	C&C Generals Zero Hour is a bit dated...but still an AMAZING game

Dec 13, 2004, 04:24 AM	#6
jfs1967 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Berryville, Arkansas Posts: 82 Rep Power: 0	Warcraft III + Frozen Throne can be found for 39.99 or less. It is accessible and not too deep, but really great with skirmish modes. And the highest AI settings are good. C&C Generals is good with more forgiving AI. If you want more depth (i.e., have free time on your hands) try Age of Mythology or Rise Of Nations (Gold versions for 29.99 or less). These games basically kick late comers in the hiney, though I have not tried Dawn Of War yet (I have it, but I am kind of searching for a 1.10 executable for the US version shipped patched to date (Vengeance's offering doesn't work). I bought DSKINS and they work so I now play using those. I have heard so much about Warhammer, but I haven't really sat down with it. Skirmmish modes really give lasting value if you are not into online play. Empires Dawn Of The Modern World is around 19.99 and it has good AI. Ground Countrol II is more "tactical" but has hands down the most beautiful graphics and camera work. It is based on controlling zones more than resource collection and base building. I am kind of sorry I bought Warhammer, it was an impulse. The new RTS and Strategy games really do not bring anything new to the table worth mentioning. Age Of Empires or Age Of Mythology Or Warcraft III is what I would recommend.

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rjpogi DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Seoul-Tokyo Connection Posts: 235 Rep Power: 0	anyone here played Rome Total War? __________________ AMD 64 +3000 Venice 2 Infineon 1 gig PC2700 333Mhz DDRAM ECS Elite nForce3a Mobo Seagate Barracuda 120GB HD SoundBlaster Audigy2 ZS Inno3D Geforce 6600 AGP

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EDERPOTTER DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: BRAZIL Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	yeah these games r good but u gorgot stronghold that was really good 1-Warcraft 3 2-Age of Mithology 3-Stronghold __________________ WOT R U LOOKING AT?...,PENTIUM4 2.40 GHZ,512MB RAM,XFXGEFORCEFX5200 256MB RAM.ASUS P4S800D.

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pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	WC3 is good...and the frozen throne expansion is definately worth a look

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~~Vasot~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: GREECE Posts: 369 Rep Power: 0	My favourite these year 1) Ground Control 2 2) Rome Total War I am going to buy - Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth- tomorrow I did not like Warcraft 3 so much (it felt sooo childish and swallow especially the graphics ) but i loved Starcraft Last edited by Vasot; Dec 13, 2004 at 06:52 PM.

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Counterfe1t DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 440 Rep Power: 0	one of the most overlooked strategy games would have to be blitzkrieg it required the use of artillery and warplanes before you could effectively use any of your tanks or infantry and pulling off a good strategy always seemed like poetry in motion. multiplayer is fun but finding is a server is difficult __________________

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yoda133113 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 309 Rep Power: 0	Rome: Total War is the most in-depth RTS I've ever played it's awesome, but you have to like the campaign part to really like the game. Aside from that C&C Red Alert 1 is my fav with Star Craft following closely behind __________________ [color=Yellow]Guild Wars Character: Corrupted Bubbles[/color] "The muffin isn't picky, Timmy. Nor is it tasty! But it is powerful. All hail the muffin!" Cosmo, Fairly Odd Parents "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion. He is not entitled to his own facts." Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan [color=Sienna]Gateway M680X P-M 750 1.86 GHz Alviso Mobility Radeon X700 128 MB 1 GB 400 MHz DDR2 60 GB 5400 RPM Hitachi HD QSI DVD+-RW DL 17" Widescreen [/color]

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jfs1967 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Berryville, Arkansas Posts: 82 Rep Power: 0	C&C Generals & C&C Generals Zero Hour: Fun, but Single Player is "way" too easy even on the hard AI setting. There are some levels on Warcraft III I still haven't beat on the hardest AI setting, and the story telling is superb.

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YAYitsAndrew Anti-Piracy Poster Boy Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 2,605 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	There's a decent strategy game for the computer called Moonbase Commander. It looks like it was marketed for kids, but the strategy is on an adult level. Tons of fun. __________________ "It is because the resistance to paying for copyrighted material, although often characterized as arising from a supposed technical burden or principled concern for the public interest, arises rather from exactly the same segment of the brain that is dominant in shoplifters." - Mark Helprin, Digital Barbarism In other words, it's never okay to steal even if you think you have a good reason! www.yayitsandrew.com

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Senor_Mota 悪魔の方法 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The Muck and the Mire, Idaho Posts: 2,120 Rep Power: 56	I still play WarCraft II on battle.net. I think it might possibly be the most fun I've ever had with an RTS game. Other than that, StarCraft was pretty good...the original Command and Conquer(better than all the spinoffs), Emperor: Battle for Dune, and Homeworld 2 kicked @$$.

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SD-[Inc] DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 34 Rep Power: 0	Don't forget Rise of Nations. And my all time favorite oldie: Sacrifice!

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~~Vasot~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: GREECE Posts: 369 Rep Power: 0	Guys what do you think about Armies of Exigo ??? It remind me so much of Warcraft 3

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Essence DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	I still think WC3/TFT are the best RTS's out there, but C&C: Genrals is really good, so that's also one the best ones. __________________ [color=Red][color=White][color=White][/color][/color][/color][color=Red][color=RoyalBlue][color=White][color=DeepSkyBlue][color=White][color=DeepSkyBlue][color=White] [/color][/color][/color] [/color][/color][/color][/color]

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Ubergrendle Semper ubi sub ubi Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 701 Rep Power: 0	best strategy game? for what its worth, i don't consider RTSes to be real strategy games -- they're fun, but they're click-fest tactical action games at best. In terms of depth, Europa Univeralis II is probably the high-water mark for the past 2-3 years. Civilisation III is good, but its just a step up from Civ II. I agree with Yaytitsandrew (hehe) that Advance Wars is solid -- I don't own a gameboy, but found myself addicted when I borrowed one in an emergency room ward...that 4 hour wait flew past. I've also read good things about Korsun Pocket, but I haven't played a hardcore military sim for a few years. __________________ A use a computer to connect to the intertubes.

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YAYitsAndrew Anti-Piracy Poster Boy Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 2,605 Rep Power: 66 System Specs	My name doesn't have tits in it, dammit! Do you stitsee the word tits in everytitsthing i type? If so you're titslooney! Since you like advance wars, battalion at www.urbansquall.com is an online game a lot like it. __________________ "It is because the resistance to paying for copyrighted material, although often characterized as arising from a supposed technical burden or principled concern for the public interest, arises rather from exactly the same segment of the brain that is dominant in shoplifters." - Mark Helprin, Digital Barbarism In other words, it's never okay to steal even if you think you have a good reason! www.yayitsandrew.com

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technonerd DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 594 Rep Power: 0	Every strategic games all above is excellent :P

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