What happened to the classic games?

mainman · Mar 19, 2005, 10:09 AM

Since 1990 I have been playing Computer games. Today I had a yearning feeling...
and I asked myself: “Why am I not seeing classic games anymore?”
Games like: Syndicate, Police Quest, Gabriel knight, Another World and games like these. These games are inscribed in my memory. Even with the poor graphics and sounds comparing to today’s standard they left a mark in my life.

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Lowfat · Mar 19, 2005, 10:33 AM

i agree. ultima 7, wing commander, strike commander were some of the best games ever imo.

Callisto · Mar 19, 2005, 02:43 PM

rofl, never heard of those games. You can still find the demos online if you really want to play them.

No_Style · Mar 19, 2005, 03:44 PM

Well, two of the titles there were from the now practically dissolved Sierra. Perhaps one day we'll see those titles reappear? Afterall, Swat came back with their 4th installment after a long hiatus.

fireball · Mar 19, 2005, 04:56 PM

Syndicate Wars was an awesome game.

mainman · Mar 20, 2005, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Callisto

rofl, never heard of those games. You can still find the demos online if you really want to play them.

damn, that just made me feel old...

Judas · Mar 20, 2005, 03:57 AM

hell i'm only 20 and i've heard of much older games..... *shrugs*

MSX · Mar 20, 2005, 04:12 AM

Problem is: Most of the classic games are owned by EA, Serria or have shared rights to them.

The other problem being that games are designed to be bling. Bling makes cash. If a publisher was able to con you out of $50 with graphics then its job is done. So therefore it will push its publishers to think the same way. Things like story and backstory, plots and subplots go to the wayside. These things really make gameplay come alive for me more than graphics ever could.

I've played a few memoralble games within the last few years but they didin't sell 4billion so they were seen as "failures". HL2, Theif 3, and Vampire are some good examples. Did they forever change me? No, as the one thing they all missed out on was delivering "the whole package". That and two of the three were filled with showstopping bugs. All three of them shorted out because they simply were not long enough for my tastes.

That leads us back to the publishers. Thusly the public are at fault for buying their crap. The publishers have too much creative control over companies. Vote with your wallet and good games will come around eventually. Support the startups and independant companies that actually make good games.

mainman · Mar 20, 2005, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

hell i'm only 20 and i've heard of much older games..... *shrugs*

your a very old man for your age bro!!

Ev!L-aLphA · Mar 20, 2005, 04:46 AM

dude syndicate was maybe the first game that ive ever actualy played in my life.. when i was like 6 i saw my dad playing it and it looked cool so he let me play it a bit

Zelig · Mar 20, 2005, 04:47 AM

I've been playing nethack recently...

Soyfu · Mar 21, 2005, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tulcakelume

i agree. ultima 7, wing commander, strike commander were some of the best games ever imo.

For anyone who enjoyed Wing Commander, you should play Descent: Freespace. It's the same classic space combat with some narrative but it's a fairly recent game with decent graphics.

For other classic games:
http://www.the-underdogs.org/

Play Syndicate Wars!!
http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=1917
(toward the bottom of the page, there's a link to download the game, 30mb)

riles9262 · Mar 22, 2005, 12:59 AM

Has anybody played this game? http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=5130
it looks awesome

DarkerFate · Mar 22, 2005, 01:28 PM

" all of which add up to 150-200 hours of playing time." This is what most games lack today. Might be the reason so many people play MMO's these days. Dunno.

First game I remember playing was ping-pong, on the first Atari console. Black and white. 27 years old btw.

bananaman · Mar 22, 2005, 01:47 PM

i still love cannon fodder

so simple, so addictive

great

nana

Redstone · Mar 22, 2005, 09:33 PM

And how about Starflight? It was my first space sim. Awesome exploring and adventuring.

If you liked Wing Commander check out this Privateer remake along with Vega strike. Two good games.

I since, never had that game lust of the old classic games until I played WoW.

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Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 60	dude syndicate was maybe the first game that ive ever actualy played in my life.. when i was like 6 i saw my dad playing it and it looked cool so he let me play it a bit __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08

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Callisto DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 94 Rep Power: 0	rofl, never heard of those games. You can still find the demos online if you really want to play them.

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MSX Burning the frozen... Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,201 Rep Power: 0	Problem is: Most of the classic games are owned by EA, Serria or have shared rights to them. The other problem being that games are designed to be bling. Bling makes cash. If a publisher was able to con you out of $50 with graphics then its job is done. So therefore it will push its publishers to think the same way. Things like story and backstory, plots and subplots go to the wayside. These things really make gameplay come alive for me more than graphics ever could. I've played a few memoralble games within the last few years but they didin't sell 4billion so they were seen as "failures". HL2, Theif 3, and Vampire are some good examples. Did they forever change me? No, as the one thing they all missed out on was delivering "the whole package". That and two of the three were filled with showstopping bugs. All three of them shorted out because they simply were not long enough for my tastes. That leads us back to the publishers. Thusly the public are at fault for buying their crap. The publishers have too much creative control over companies. Vote with your wallet and good games will come around eventually. Support the startups and independant companies that actually make good games.

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DarkerFate DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Iceland Posts: 74 Rep Power: 0	" all of which add up to 150-200 hours of playing time." This is what most games lack today. Might be the reason so many people play MMO's these days. Dunno. First game I remember playing was ping-pong, on the first Atari console. Black and white. 27 years old btw. __________________

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bananaman banana muncher Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: London Posts: 1,254 Rep Power: 59	i still love cannon fodder so simple, so addictive great nana __________________

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