Quake 4 discussion thread.

Chaos · Oct 21, 2005, 09:25 PM

also those that are not using the legit version beware that it calls out to Activision for both SP and Multiplayer so you mau need disconnect while playing

ViRuS2k · Oct 21, 2005, 09:32 PM

awsome game. period.

way and i mean way better optimized than fear could ever hope to be.

solid fluid fps gameplay. DOOM 3 wishes it could be as good.

fear was a great game dont get me wrong i was totaly blown away at how quake 4 is way better than this fear. i wasnt expecting this turn around.

great game period.

and btw there are nodvd/cd cracks that turn off the calling home shit lol
i purchased fear but now that i just cant stand the stuttering in fear im going to take it to the shop tommorow and swap it for QUAKE 4.

vitriolic · Oct 21, 2005, 09:36 PM

whats the multiplayer like? q3 with bells on?

Zardon · Oct 21, 2005, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandok

This game is simply a masterpiece. I hated Doom 3 and this has nothing to do with it. Physics exist, the graphics are great and running on ATI hardware, it's still fluid and amazingly sexy.

I totally agree, I mean have you guys seen all the little touches in this? the way the vehicles cause dust to blow up on certain levels, and on the cold level, when the guys spoke the breath coming out of their mouths? the more I play this the more im impressed, I havent even touched the MP yet, but the single player is a total masterpiece, the texture quality rates up there with the best ive seen to date, the body armour, the facial expressions, the lighting (which is stellar). I mean the weapons not only look incredible but the sound they create is amazing.

It is one of the best FPS ever made, I agree with BWX, and im just so happy to look back at Doom3 when I prayed that someone made a good game of the amazing engine. this could well be the game of the year.

Vikingod · Oct 21, 2005, 09:46 PM

damn it, all this talk has me about 5mins from rushing to the store and buying it. I was saving that money for COD2!!!

Zardon · Oct 21, 2005, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikingod

damn it, all this talk has me about 5mins from rushing to the store and buying it. I was saving that money for COD2!!!

Dude you gotta get Q4, nevermind Cod2 for now !

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Oct 21, 2005, 09:49 PM

i have a 9700 pro, i run doom 3 at ultra quality at 1024x768 16af no fsaa. can i still get a very playable experience? i usewd to get 45-60 fps usualy, my avg maybe was 48 which is pretty decent. would i get 30-35 fps on average would you guys say?

Mayro · Oct 21, 2005, 09:52 PM

COD 2 doesnt have crap on Quake 4. Think of it this way, COD 2 isnt going to have every mod developer and there mother running to make a mod for it.

Zardon · Oct 21, 2005, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BiGBrOwNPimpsta

i have a 9700 pro, i run doom 3 at ultra quality at 1024x768 16af no fsaa. can i still get a very playable experience? i usewd to get 45-60 fps usualy, my avg maybe was 48 which is pretty decent. would i get 30-35 fps on average would you guys say?

Yes you should be able to, the Q4 engine is improved over Doom3's. I have had great experiences with last gen hardware in my testing (although the 7800GTX with this game is just mindblowingly good

)

you may want to pass on ultra quality though, the only card ive found that gives non stutter free playback is the 7800GTX. (looking forward to playing ultra on the 512meg version soon).

BWX · Oct 21, 2005, 10:01 PM

I play Q4 on 1152 x 864, 2xAA, 4xAF- all options on max but no ultra quality..

I get between 35 and 60fps.. hovering somewhere in between most of the time.. around 45 or higher.

Even if it occasionally drops below 30FPS, it doesn't stutter AT ALL and is still very smooth..

I never ran D3 on this X800XL yet... so can't compare it to my 9700pro.

(X800XL @ 420/540 though- AI on normal.... 5.10 CCC AA and AF on app. pref. - control AA and AF through game.)

Sandok · Oct 21, 2005, 10:09 PM

Ya you'll run it fine pimpsta...

I'm happy though. 1280x1024 high quality (so 8xaf), no aa (doesn't really require it to be honest...) and rest cranked up!!!

Rasta Monsta · Oct 21, 2005, 10:10 PM

Raven knocked this one out of the park, it is a BLAST!

It does have a similar feel in places to the Elite Force games (also by Raven), but it is far, far better. I love it!

rasta

Vikingod · Oct 21, 2005, 10:31 PM

Ok, question...
The only quake game I ever played for more than 30mins in Quake 1. Is this game like that at all or not? I never got into quake 2 and don't play games online, so quake3 is sort of off limits. Quake 1 had some great creatures and the level design was great, atmosphere was very dark and natural, which I liked.

KillerSneak · Oct 21, 2005, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

I totally agree, I mean have you guys seen all the little touches in this? the way the vehicles cause dust to blow up on certain levels, and on the cold level, when the guys spoke the breath coming out of their mouths? the more I play this the more im impressed, I havent even touched the MP yet, but the single player is a total masterpiece, the texture quality rates up there with the best ive seen to date, the body armour, the facial expressions, the lighting (which is stellar). I mean the weapons not only look incredible but the sound they create is amazing.

It is one of the best FPS ever made, I agree with BWX, and im just so happy to look back at Doom3 when I prayed that someone made a good game of the amazing engine. this could well be the game of the year.

Well sure the game is full of little details and that's something I would expect from Raven and the engine they used. But the game played to much like Doom3. And the engine scaling well I can't run the game @ the resolution your playing it with my system (look at sig)

But this game did get me thinking of finally upgrading my system

I have to agree on the Sound in the game it's great even the radio messages you get while playing, sometimes you can't even understand them because of the shooting

.. Also the interaction with some of the other soldiers is nice to get some interesting info / stories they tell you.. And yes the lightning effects are great (but wasn't that what the Doom3 Engine was all about ? incl the shadows that come with it)

As far as the facial expressions well they are not the best I have seen in games but they look amazing that's for sure.. But the gameplay feels way off imho. Sure like I said before the GFX can be nice but the gameplay really doesn't look like your invading the Strog planet. I mean I expected much more shooting and better AI for a setting like this..

But then again it's just how I feel about this, and as before it's not a bad game I did enjoy it while playing it but maybe I had to much expectations. And they could have done some more with the in game physics they aren't used as much as I would have liked

Zardon · Oct 21, 2005, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerSneak

But the game played to much like Doom3.

Man I couldnt disagree more, Quake 4 plays NOTHING like Doom3, Doom3 I HATED, it was boring after the initial "wow" factor - I mean anyone who knows me here will know I slated Doom3 after it was released for many months saying it was basically a graphics demo. How are they different? Quake has a team, and a much more coherant, believable and fully rounded story line, if you look past the engine which is about all Doom3 and Quake4 share you can even feel the differences when playing. I mean you have not only indoor scenes but you have outdoor scenes, you have vehicles... it has a much more "open" feeling and you arent running around inane coridoors waiting for the next mindless zombie to jump out and go "argggh".......

Also something else I noted which was a massive fault of F.E.A.R. was the total lack of anything memorable (apart from the ending), the whole Quake 4 experience has been amazing to the point ive been playing, I remember EVERY level and even the design is first class _ there are so many great touches I would love to start naming them but people are reading this who havent played it yet so it would spoil their experience. Who on earth can remember anything about Doom3 apart from some of the bosses??

I think they play totally differently, thank god or I would have deinstalled it a long time ago. Quake 4 is a classic, Doom3 is a turkey with a lovely engine.

BWX · Oct 21, 2005, 10:39 PM

r_displayRefresh "75"
g_showPlayerShadow "1"
seta image_anisotropy "4"
seta in_toggleZoom "1"
seta com_showFPS "0"
seta s_useEAXOcclusion "1"
seta s_useEAXReverb "1"

My autoexec.cfg so far- makes it easier to adjust things you want to experiment with..

EAX seems to work great.

Raptor · Oct 21, 2005, 10:55 PM

First fps game in a long while that is fun to play. Wasn't expecting much and got sucker punched with glee halfway through the first level. My LCD's native resolution is 16x12 so I was worried that I would have to turn some detail settings down but the only thing i shut down was aa but at 1600 there doesn't seem much need for that anyway. It runs between 40 and 65 at the "quality" setting. Good coding Raven! Great gaming experience. You should not miss this one folks

T100 · Oct 21, 2005, 11:01 PM

I think that the coolest part in that game is the whole medical scritped scene. I would post screenshots but I don' t want to ruin it.

Pluvious · Oct 21, 2005, 11:10 PM

Quake 4 rocks big time! I played up till you get to ride a conveyor belt from hell ( I won't go into details

) in one session.

The next day I installed FEAR and started to get into that.. B>O>R>I>N>G> ! .... endless catwalks and empty hallways with no action. Yawn..

Once the firefights start in FEAR its cool.. but the time between battles is too long. Q4 has action and WOW moments every turn it seems. I would have assumed FEAR > Q4 but as Z pointed out, its the opposite.

I picked up Serious Sam2 for $30 but havn't even bothered to install it at this point. Maybe next month.

Sandok · Oct 21, 2005, 11:10 PM

Well I'm still in the beginning...

So don't

PS: That was for the guy above the elisha ava...

And ya... This totally owns fear

phantommenace2 · Oct 21, 2005, 11:11 PM

Sandok · Oct 21, 2005, 11:15 PM

EDIT: Didn't say anything...

And well, The best thing about quake, I mean THE best is that it ain't repetitive.

The first few levels are so diverse. That's what i love in a game and this is just amazing. Only HL2 and JKs were this diverse and fun

(and farcry)

PS: Those last screens phatom posted... I'm just past that

T100 · Oct 22, 2005, 12:21 AM

Just wait Sandok, the game is about to become almost un-nonplayable (you will not be able to put it down) in about another hour of gameplay! I just wish Doom3 was even half as much fun.

Zardon · Oct 22, 2005, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T100

Just wait Sandok, the game is about to become almost un-nonplayable (you will not be able to put it down) in about another hour of gameplay! I just wish Doom3 was even half as much fun.

I reached a stage a while ago and my jaw hit the desk, ill not post info to ruin it but this is right up there with Half life 2

Necrosis · Oct 22, 2005, 12:25 AM

Can it be???

Sandok & Zardon like the same game?

ViRuS2k · Oct 22, 2005, 01:28 AM

OMG the levels and detail of this game are amazing.
this trully shocked me lol a real life heart that needs electroction to be started again and again

the graphics are way beyond brilliance.

i cant be to far from completing this game now but WOW what a game.

Rasta Monsta · Oct 22, 2005, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipstaff

OpenAL is a 3D audio API like OpenGL is for video. As of Sept.21.05 Creative released beta drivers for all their Audigy line of cards that include support for OpenAL. You can download them right off of Creatives Soundblaster site under "Support".

Well, I just snatched & installed these drivers (before settling into my evening of Strogg-hunting) and experienced a geek first - these beta drivers are WHQL!

rasta

SFOSOK · Oct 22, 2005, 01:40 AM

Gettin it soon because I beat F.E.A.R. and EB is letting me exchange. Hopefully it will be as good as you all say it is.

Mr cairo · Oct 22, 2005, 01:46 AM

this is the sort of gameplay i want from starship troopers or a really well done Aliens game ................... its just AWESOME

and yes it drop kicks FEAR into a shallow grave

Pluvious · Oct 22, 2005, 01:47 AM

Take it easy with the spoiler pictures guys.. need a new thread for that I think.

Oct 21, 2005, 09:25 PM	#31
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Oct 21, 2005, 09:46 PM	#35
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BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,706 Rep Power: 105 System Specs	i have a 9700 pro, i run doom 3 at ultra quality at 1024x768 16af no fsaa. can i still get a very playable experience? i usewd to get 45-60 fps usualy, my avg maybe was 48 which is pretty decent. would i get 30-35 fps on average would you guys say? __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Oct 21, 2005, 10:01 PM	#40
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	I play Q4 on 1152 x 864, 2xAA, 4xAF- all options on max but no ultra quality.. I get between 35 and 60fps.. hovering somewhere in between most of the time.. around 45 or higher. Even if it occasionally drops below 30FPS, it doesn't stutter AT ALL and is still very smooth.. I never ran D3 on this X800XL yet... so can't compare it to my 9700pro. (X800XL @ 420/540 though- AI on normal.... 5.10 CCC AA and AF on app. pref. - control AA and AF through game.) __________________

Oct 21, 2005, 10:31 PM	#43
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,187 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Ok, question... The only quake game I ever played for more than 30mins in Quake 1. Is this game like that at all or not? I never got into quake 2 and don't play games online, so quake3 is sort of off limits. Quake 1 had some great creatures and the level design was great, atmosphere was very dark and natural, which I liked. __________________ *How You Can Help DriverHeaven By Using Digg*

Oct 21, 2005, 09:32 PM	#32
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	awsome game. period. way and i mean way better optimized than fear could ever hope to be. solid fluid fps gameplay. DOOM 3 wishes it could be as good. fear was a great game dont get me wrong i was totaly blown away at how quake 4 is way better than this fear. i wasnt expecting this turn around. great game period. and btw there are nodvd/cd cracks that turn off the calling home shit lol i purchased fear but now that i just cant stand the stuttering in fear im going to take it to the shop tommorow and swap it for QUAKE 4.

Oct 21, 2005, 09:36 PM	#33
vitriolic DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	whats the multiplayer like? q3 with bells on?

Oct 21, 2005, 09:52 PM	#38
Mayro -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 173 Rep Power: 0	COD 2 doesnt have crap on Quake 4. Think of it this way, COD 2 isnt going to have every mod developer and there mother running to make a mod for it.

Oct 21, 2005, 10:09 PM	#41
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	Ya you'll run it fine pimpsta... I'm happy though. 1280x1024 high quality (so 8xaf), no aa (doesn't really require it to be honest...) and rest cranked up!!!

Oct 21, 2005, 10:39 PM	#46
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	r_displayRefresh "75" g_showPlayerShadow "1" seta image_anisotropy "4" seta in_toggleZoom "1" seta com_showFPS "0" seta s_useEAXOcclusion "1" seta s_useEAXReverb "1" My autoexec.cfg so far- makes it easier to adjust things you want to experiment with.. EAX seems to work great. __________________

Oct 21, 2005, 10:55 PM	#47
Raptor DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: California USA Posts: 464 Rep Power: 0	First fps game in a long while that is fun to play. Wasn't expecting much and got sucker punched with glee halfway through the first level. My LCD's native resolution is 16x12 so I was worried that I would have to turn some detail settings down but the only thing i shut down was aa but at 1600 there doesn't seem much need for that anyway. It runs between 40 and 65 at the "quality" setting. Good coding Raven! Great gaming experience. You should not miss this one folks __________________ [COLOR=Green][COLOR=DarkOrange] P4C-800 DELUXE/P4 3.4 NORTHWOOD/2 GB CORSAIR PC3200/X850XTPE/2 300 GB MAXTOR HD'S/LOGITECH G5/LOGITECH Z-5500/CREATIVE XFI EXTREME MUSIC/MS 4000 KEYBOARD/Vizio VX37L HDTV/Toshiba HD-A2 HD DVD and Toshiba HD-XA1/Oppo HV970HD SACD/DVD-A universal player/Xbox 360/Sony PS3. [/COLOR][/COLOR]

Oct 21, 2005, 11:01 PM	#48
T100 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	I think that the coolest part in that game is the whole medical scritped scene. I would post screenshots but I don' t want to ruin it. __________________ My specs:Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz @ 3.44 GHz, 1024 mb, ATI X800XL

Oct 21, 2005, 11:10 PM	#49
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 56	Quake 4 rocks big time! I played up till you get to ride a conveyor belt from hell ( I won't go into details ) in one session. The next day I installed FEAR and started to get into that.. B>O>R>I>N>G> ! .... endless catwalks and empty hallways with no action. Yawn.. Once the firefights start in FEAR its cool.. but the time between battles is too long. Q4 has action and WOW moments every turn it seems. I would have assumed FEAR > Q4 but as Z pointed out, its the opposite. I picked up Serious Sam2 for $30 but havn't even bothered to install it at this point. Maybe next month. __________________

Oct 21, 2005, 11:10 PM	#50
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	Well I'm still in the beginning... So don't PS: That was for the guy above the elisha ava... And ya... This totally owns fear

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Oct 21, 2005, 11:15 PM	#52
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	EDIT: Didn't say anything... And well, The best thing about quake, I mean THE best is that it ain't repetitive. The first few levels are so diverse. That's what i love in a game and this is just amazing. Only HL2 and JKs were this diverse and fun (and farcry) PS: Those last screens phatom posted... I'm just past that

Oct 22, 2005, 12:21 AM	#53
T100 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	Just wait Sandok, the game is about to become almost un-nonplayable (you will not be able to put it down) in about another hour of gameplay! I just wish Doom3 was even half as much fun. __________________ My specs:Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz @ 3.44 GHz, 1024 mb, ATI X800XL

Oct 22, 2005, 12:25 AM	#55
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 129 System Specs	Ot Can it be??? Sandok & Zardon like the same game?

Oct 22, 2005, 01:28 AM	#56
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	OMG the levels and detail of this game are amazing. this trully shocked me lol a real life heart that needs electroction to be started again and again the graphics are way beyond brilliance. i cant be to far from completing this game now but WOW what a game.

Oct 22, 2005, 01:40 AM	#58
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	Gettin it soon because I beat F.E.A.R. and EB is letting me exchange. Hopefully it will be as good as you all say it is. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

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Mr cairo F0rum For Humans Only Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Slightly to the left Posts: 1,764 Rep Power: 87 System Specs	this is the sort of gameplay i want from starship troopers or a really well done Aliens game ................... its just AWESOME and yes it drop kicks FEAR into a shallow grave __________________

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