Quake 4 discussion thread.

Zardon · Oct 22, 2005, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by -J_B-

Could someone with a 7800 post some pics up with all the Eye Candy turned on full?

phantommenace2 hows it run on your 9800Pro?

Hopefully my AMD 64+ 3200 Venice,1GB DDR400 and 128mb 9600xt can run it on 800x600 Medium ~ High, maybe 1024x768

I run at 1600x1200 with 2AA on ultra, system is a 4ghz P4, 2 gig of OCZ DDR, Asus 7800GTX @ 500/1300. looks awesome!

-J_B- · Oct 22, 2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

I run at 1600x1200 with 2AA on ultra, system is a 4ghz P4, 2 gig of OCZ DDR, Asus 7800GTX @ 500/1300. looks awesome!

/Stabs Zardon, Steals his Post Count and his System!

Could you post up some pics please?

SFOSOK · Oct 22, 2005, 01:49 PM

I Just bought it, very pretty. Something seems to be missing though I can't put my finger on it but something bout the game is a little off. Multi was funny but not really my type of thing. I have played through the single player a bit and its pretty easy, just kinda point shoot run, point shoot, run though the storyline is well executed.

Zardon · Oct 22, 2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by -J_B-

/Stabs Zardon, Steals his Post Count and his System!

Could you post up some pics please?

sure ill post a picture thread, mark it spoiler so people dont accidentally see things they dont want to see.

ok posted a few, dont have time right now as im working on some reviews to go into all the really cool levels but some are posted here

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/gaming-discussion/88375-quake-4-picture-thread-spoilers.html#post701062

-J_B- · Oct 22, 2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

sure ill post a picture thread,
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthread.php?p=701062

Thanks Zardon

phantommenace2 · Oct 22, 2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by -J_B-

phantommenace2 hows it run on your 9800Pro?

the game runs amazing even though I have an "older" 9800 Pro card...I'm playing at 1280 x 1024, with 2X AA and Vsync On...the only minor hiccups I experience is when a checkpoint Save kicks in my system freezes up for a few seconds while the Game is saved, but other then that I can maintain 30 FPS and for me that is fine...the graphics get better the further you get in the game

Sandok · Oct 22, 2005, 06:19 PM

Agreed... I just finished the processing plant thingy...

Purty

(yet sick)

Rasta Monsta · Oct 22, 2005, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandok

What changes? I'm not really into trying out "beta" drivers... Bad experiences.

I just think OAL is better developed than EAX. EAX often seems a little heavy-handed, with abrupt transitions of effects between different 'sounding' areas. OAL is much more subtle (at least the Q4 implementation of it is) and extremely realistic.

rasta

P.S. The driver readme does say it might break Creative apps. . .but I don't use any of them!

Rasta Monsta · Oct 22, 2005, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

Also guys, I know quite a few of you are warezing this, but please if you like it, consider paying for it.

This made me reflect on my iD and Raven purchases prior to Q4...prolly a topic for a different thread, but I own...

Doom
Doom 2
Ultimate Doom (gak, they owe me one for this)
Heretic
Hexen
Hexen II
Quake, plus two expansions
Quake II, plus two expansions
Quake III
Quake III TA
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Elite Force
Elite Force II (tedious...Raven!)
Doom 3 (owe me another)

That's a lotta disks!

rasta

T100 · Oct 22, 2005, 08:00 PM

Ha, you are missing one of the greatest.....you really need to pick up SOF2. The first time you blow someones guts out you will thank me.

phantommenace2 · Oct 22, 2005, 08:22 PM

I'm luvin Quake 4...my only complaint is that the game is too Easy...there always seems to be a medic (for Health) or tech guy (for Armor/Shield) around to heal you back to 100...you can ask those guys to heal you at anytime by clicking on them and they will always heal you to the max of 100...makes the game a bit too easy like that

*by the way I'm playing the game on the Lieutenant Level, which is the 2nd hardest level

Mayro · Oct 22, 2005, 09:34 PM

I am a proud owner of the DVD edition. What I do after I buy the game I consider ok as I have a hard disk. I want to send the dev team pizza money. Anyone know a good address (Real address not yer home) so that I could do so? I spent 60$ on the game and they probably made 20$ off of that. While money is great, getting free pizza is even better. Hell, better yet, I could pre pay for delevery to drop it off lol.

phantommenace2 · Oct 22, 2005, 09:50 PM

is there really that much of a difference between getting the CD version as opposed to the DVD version??...I mean cmon the only time you'll notice it is during the initial installation...after that only one CD is used throughout when playing the game so it really makes little or no difference in my opinion...is knocking a few minutes off the installation worth the $10 extra?

T100 · Oct 22, 2005, 10:23 PM

You will usually get alot of extras for the extra ten dollars.

AttroPheed · Oct 22, 2005, 11:02 PM

Much better than i expected. I like how it actually kind of feels reminiscent of quake 2. Reminds me of the old days playing quake 2 on my sweet new 16 MB Voodoo 3 3000 and trying to DM over 56k.

Rasta Monsta · Oct 22, 2005, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AttroPheed

I like how it actually kind of feels reminiscent of quake 2.

Anyone else tempted to reinstall Q2? I may put it on my laptop...

rasta

Drakon · Oct 23, 2005, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rasta Monsta

Anyone else tempted to reinstall Q2? I may put it on my laptop...

rasta

Actually i was thinking about it the other day. I had reinstalled Quake 3 before I reformatted.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Oct 23, 2005, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BWX

I am using an X800XL at 420/540.. You can't run Q4 with a 9700pro on ultra if I get 40 to 60 FPS with my card on one tick below ultra.. (is it called quality?, didn't check)

I doubt you will be running 16xAF either. It will look good no matter what though.. but I think the 9700 is just to old to be cranking up the gfx settings with this game.

its that much harder on the system than doom 3, wtf!

T100 · Oct 23, 2005, 02:03 AM

inless you have a 500mb graphics card or 2 gigs of ram almost no one can play it on ultra.... Zardon explained it on page 1.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Oct 23, 2005, 02:04 AM

thats freakin gay. doom 3 did it though same engine! fools

BWX · Oct 23, 2005, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BiGBrOwNPimpsta

its that much harder on the system than doom 3, wtf!

That's the thing, I cannot say because I don't have D3 installed.. but even NO AA and 4x or 8x AF, the game looks great. -even at low resolutions. I think even with a 9700pro you will have a good time. It is a taxing game, even worth an upgrade to see it with higher settings..

I'm not home so I have to wait till Mon. to finish the game.. As soon as I finish I will be starting over on a more difficult setting to check it out.

Pluvious · Oct 23, 2005, 09:17 AM

I'm at 60fps constant with max settings except AA. Silky smooth and oh so fun. With all the ATI CAT driver updates for Doom3 over the months .. this is running amazingly good. That alone is a mark against FEAR I'm afraid. (IMHO)

SFOSOK · Oct 23, 2005, 09:34 AM

F.E.A.R. and Quake run about the same on my rig. I think Quake has an FPS cap and I want to Disable it. F.E.A.R with highest everything 2q AA highest res I can get gets a constant of 59 in the stress test.

Also I would have liked them to use a different engine than Doom 3's. Wish this game was some type of revolutionary.

Sandok · Oct 23, 2005, 09:57 AM

Why though? The doom engine is amazingly gorgeous. Fear engine is amazingly good too but nothing extra special

SFOSOK · Oct 23, 2005, 11:40 AM

I just think they could have built off it more. I haven't played Doom3 in a while but from what I remember it looks a little bit better on there (excluding player models). Maybe I just picky with it but I do not want to install Doom 3 just to find out which has better graphics. I just think they could have done a bit better and customized it more for Quake type gameplay. Hopefully online will get a little better.

Sandok · Oct 23, 2005, 11:45 AM

Well Doom 3 isn't Quake 4. Doom just had indoor evniroments so it was easy to make perfect indoors but Quake is outdoor and indoor with so many different styles. I still find the graphics are top notch, not buggy, fluid, etc.

Zardon · Oct 23, 2005, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BiGBrOwNPimpsta

thats freakin gay. doom 3 did it though same engine! fools

No it didnt - both Doom3 and Quake4 require a 512 meg graphics card to fully load all uncompressed textures into GFX memory, it is almost the same engine, quake4 is just a slight advancement on some rendering techniques. ID have had a little time to further optimise and advance the original Doom3 engine.

You "can" play ultra on a 256 card but you will notice some hitching, as I explained earlier this can be reduced by the speed and amount of system memory installed.

SFOSOK check your PM.

zerra · Oct 23, 2005, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

You "can" play ultra on a 256 card but you will notice some hitching, as I explained earlier this can be reduced by the speed and amount of system memory installed.

its something really wrong with the game.
doom3 works fantastic on my pc... q4 gots very very framedrops on many mplayer maps. i think its something with the dynamic lights.
it runs on many systems very bad. (with ati + nv cards)

smiliar to my thread here:
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=913634

Zardon · Oct 23, 2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by zerra

its something really wrong with the game.
doom3 works fantastic on my pc... q4 gots very very framedrops on many mplayer maps. i think its something with the dynamic lights.
it runs on many systems very bad. (with ati + nv cards)

smiliar to my thread here:
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=913634

did you quote me because you are using "ultra setting" or are just saying there is a problem with Multiplayer mode? I have heard there are issues with MP but I dont play it so ive no idea. if of course you are getting lag with ultra mode (which would make me think thats why you quoted me), then try high quality not ultra. also there are settings in the system section to tailor the GFX to your system specs.

Zardon · Oct 23, 2005, 04:21 PM

Incidentally for those of you with widescreen monitors (like me) you can set a custom resolution.

Edit the \base\DoomConfig.cfg file (with notepad, but make a copy first in case you make a mess).

Set the "seta r_mode" to "-1" in order to enable custom res
Set the "r_customHeight" and "r_customWidth" as you want.

I play in 1920x1200 so it looks like this for me :

seta r_customHeight "1200"
seta r_customWidth "1900"
seta r_mode "-1"

you can also mess with FOV (field of view) for example
seta g_fov "100"

"g_fov" command seems to get erased on exiting the game so make the file read only and it seems to hold.

Oct 22, 2005, 01:49 PM	#93
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	I Just bought it, very pretty. Something seems to be missing though I can't put my finger on it but something bout the game is a little off. Multi was funny but not really my type of thing. I have played through the single player a bit and its pretty easy, just kinda point shoot run, point shoot, run though the storyline is well executed. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Oct 22, 2005, 08:00 PM	#100
T100 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	Ha, you are missing one of the greatest.....you really need to pick up SOF2. The first time you blow someones guts out you will thank me. __________________ My specs:Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz @ 3.44 GHz, 1024 mb, ATI X800XL

Oct 22, 2005, 10:23 PM	#104
T100 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	You will usually get alot of extras for the extra ten dollars. __________________ My specs:Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz @ 3.44 GHz, 1024 mb, ATI X800XL

Oct 22, 2005, 11:02 PM	#105
AttroPheed DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Paris Posts: 386 Rep Power: 0	Much better than i expected. I like how it actually kind of feels reminiscent of quake 2. Reminds me of the old days playing quake 2 on my sweet new 16 MB Voodoo 3 3000 and trying to DM over 56k. __________________ "Facts seldom interfere with belief." - James Randi "Where knowledge ends, superstition begins." - Some Guy "A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence." - David Hume [COLOR=red]Flying Spaghetti Is Lord!![/COLOR] My PC Stats

Oct 23, 2005, 02:03 AM	#109
T100 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	inless you have a 500mb graphics card or 2 gigs of ram almost no one can play it on ultra.... Zardon explained it on page 1. __________________ My specs:Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz @ 3.44 GHz, 1024 mb, ATI X800XL

Oct 22, 2005, 06:19 PM	#97
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	Agreed... I just finished the processing plant thingy... Purty (yet sick)

Oct 22, 2005, 08:22 PM	#101
phantommenace2 hexa-core gamer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 266 Rep Power: 51 System Specs	I'm luvin Quake 4...my only complaint is that the game is too Easy...there always seems to be a medic (for Health) or tech guy (for Armor/Shield) around to heal you back to 100...you can ask those guys to heal you at anytime by clicking on them and they will always heal you to the max of 100...makes the game a bit too easy like that *by the way I'm playing the game on the Lieutenant Level, which is the 2nd hardest level

Oct 22, 2005, 09:34 PM	#102
Mayro -=[DHzer0point Team]=- Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 173 Rep Power: 0	I am a proud owner of the DVD edition. What I do after I buy the game I consider ok as I have a hard disk. I want to send the dev team pizza money. Anyone know a good address (Real address not yer home) so that I could do so? I spent 60$ on the game and they probably made 20$ off of that. While money is great, getting free pizza is even better. Hell, better yet, I could pre pay for delevery to drop it off lol.

Oct 22, 2005, 09:50 PM	#103
phantommenace2 hexa-core gamer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 266 Rep Power: 51 System Specs	is there really that much of a difference between getting the CD version as opposed to the DVD version??...I mean cmon the only time you'll notice it is during the initial installation...after that only one CD is used throughout when playing the game so it really makes little or no difference in my opinion...is knocking a few minutes off the installation worth the $10 extra?

Oct 23, 2005, 02:04 AM	#110
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,706 Rep Power: 105 System Specs	thats freakin gay. doom 3 did it though same engine! fools __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Oct 23, 2005, 09:17 AM	#112
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 56	I'm at 60fps constant with max settings except AA. Silky smooth and oh so fun. With all the ATI CAT driver updates for Doom3 over the months .. this is running amazingly good. That alone is a mark against FEAR I'm afraid. (IMHO) __________________

Oct 23, 2005, 09:34 AM	#113
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	F.E.A.R. and Quake run about the same on my rig. I think Quake has an FPS cap and I want to Disable it. F.E.A.R with highest everything 2q AA highest res I can get gets a constant of 59 in the stress test. Also I would have liked them to use a different engine than Doom 3's. Wish this game was some type of revolutionary. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Oct 23, 2005, 09:57 AM	#114
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	Why though? The doom engine is amazingly gorgeous. Fear engine is amazingly good too but nothing extra special

Oct 23, 2005, 11:40 AM	#115
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	I just think they could have built off it more. I haven't played Doom3 in a while but from what I remember it looks a little bit better on there (excluding player models). Maybe I just picky with it but I do not want to install Doom 3 just to find out which has better graphics. I just think they could have done a bit better and customized it more for Quake type gameplay. Hopefully online will get a little better. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Oct 23, 2005, 11:45 AM	#116
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	Well Doom 3 isn't Quake 4. Doom just had indoor evniroments so it was easy to make perfect indoors but Quake is outdoor and indoor with so many different styles. I still find the graphics are top notch, not buggy, fluid, etc.

Oct 23, 2005, 04:21 PM	Thread Starter #120
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	Incidentally for those of you with widescreen monitors (like me) you can set a custom resolution. Edit the \base\DoomConfig.cfg file (with notepad, but make a copy first in case you make a mess). Set the "seta r_mode" to "-1" in order to enable custom res Set the "r_customHeight" and "r_customWidth" as you want. I play in 1920x1200 so it looks like this for me : seta r_customHeight "1200" seta r_customWidth "1900" seta r_mode "-1" you can also mess with FOV (field of view) for example seta g_fov "100" "g_fov" command seems to get erased on exiting the game so make the file read only and it seems to hold.