Shady tactics concerning EA and BF2 1.12 patch

EcPercy · Dec 1, 2005, 10:44 AM

So the other day I installed the new patch for BF2, version 1.12. Not long after this SAV10 reported adware.gamespyarcade.

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/ven...spyarcade.html

What is the meaning of this? I know when I initially installed BF2 I didn't select the option to install the gamespy arcade. I ran the 1.12 installer again and there was no EULA present. Why would they install something without permission?

Drakon · Dec 1, 2005, 12:26 PM

Because it's EA and they can do whatever they want

g35x · Dec 1, 2005, 12:29 PM

nope not EA all they did is pay DICE to make it and slap an EA logo on it lol its DICE u wana talk about and yes they suck with the patches pretty soon they're gona be over a gig lol 200mb+ patch

Ubergrendle · Dec 1, 2005, 04:28 PM

Gamespy is the ingame multiplayer browser, most of the pieces of gamespy have always been there... the patch installation probably just triggered a detection of some .dlls.

As for patches changing the EULA w/o notification, this is standard in the industry now. Microsoft is famous for using bug-fixes to change your user rights.

As much as I love the BF2 gameplay, I'm tired of bad patches, bleeding expansion features into the vanilla game, and surrepticious software. I won't be buying another EA / DICE product.

PS EA *owns* DICE... they bought 61% of the company a few months back. They're they same company now... DICE is just a 'brand'.

pr0digal jenius · Dec 1, 2005, 04:36 PM

Most games use gamespy for the in game multiplayer now a days anyways...that's probably what you're seeing

EcPercy · Dec 1, 2005, 06:14 PM

I know most games use gamespy, but I never got this warning before. I have had BF2 installed since the day it came out.

I know that it's BF2 causing the problem because the adware.gamespyarcade file is located in the BF2 directory. I have reinstalled windows recently and SAV10 was one of the first things that I installed after windows. I installed BF2 with the 1.03 patch and I didn't get that warning. The only thing that was changed recently on my computer is that I installed the 1.12 patch for BF2.

I have other games that use gamespy as the "in-game" browser and they are not giving that warning.

Oh, I also know about EA buying DICE. I also remember hearing that the team from Trauma Studios (Makers of the Desert Combat Mod for BF42) were shown the door after contributing their part to BF2.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 1, 2005, 06:30 PM

You told would youi likw toi install gamespy when installing the gme SAY NO.
the games still plays MP it just the gamespy stand alone your asked to install
is ad supported (adware)

EcPercy · Dec 1, 2005, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecpercy

I know when I initially installed BF2 I didn't select the option to install the gamespy arcade.

Yes, I know that. I never install the actual standalone gamespy browser. That's why I am wondering why the files are there.

Ubergrendle · Dec 3, 2005, 05:46 PM

Speaking of shady tactics...

The authentication servers for Battlefield 2 and Spec Ops have now been down for 6+ hours and there is no ETA on a fix. This is a worldwide problem -- NO ONE can play BF2 right now.

Looks like EA farked up both BF2 and BF:SF installs with their latest 1.12 patch. Yay EA!

It will be the last EA product I ever buy...BF2 gameplay is awesome, but the support and patches make Microsoft look like angels in comparison.

MiDri · Dec 3, 2005, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ubergrendle

Speaking of shady tactics...

The authentication servers for Battlefield 2 and Spec Ops have now been down for 6+ hours and there is no ETA on a fix. This is a worldwide problem -- NO ONE can play BF2 right now.

Looks like EA farked up both BF2 and BF:SF installs with their latest 1.12 patch. Yay EA!

It will be the last EA product I ever buy...BF2 gameplay is awesome, but the support and patches make Microsoft look like angels in comparison.

Its not down, its just screwing up really bad, if you sit long enough the game will come up (took me around 15-20 minutes earlyer.)

Also on the topic of how Dice is doing the bleeding over of SF weapons into normal BF, welcome to capitalistic america! How do you force some one to buy your expansion, make the people with out it miss out on really usefull items and gear! (From a business stand point, its genius!)

SFOSOK · Dec 3, 2005, 06:17 PM

Yeah, I really don't like EA, they are the destroyer of good games.

Ubergrendle · Dec 6, 2005, 08:50 PM

official word was that the stats server only was down, authenticaion engine was still running.

whoever designed the BF2 client to not have a timeout on a non-critical gameplay element needs to be taken into the alley and shot. Error handling for external network components is programming 101 -- I'd fire one of my developers for making such an obvious mistake.

BF2 is reminding me of a 1980s jaguar... great engine and styling, lousy reliabaility and back electronics!

OmegaRED · Dec 15, 2005, 05:47 AM

FYI this isnt new and SAV10 picks up gamespy on other games I've installed (SCCT, FEAR) it wont even install the game if auto protect is on. This is just the gamespy files loading for install but you always have a choice not to install gamespy afterwards. Still, oddly SAV10 often detects gamespy on my comp out of the blue.

g35x · Dec 15, 2005, 01:09 PM

not EA people EA jsut paid a ton of $ to put their name on the game its DICE u gota be mad at DICE made the game not EA and DICE does the patches EA jsut takes the credit-good or bad

p_dante · Dec 18, 2005, 01:51 AM

a lot of EA games come with that rediculous gamespy arcade... everytime i installed one of my battlefield games i ended up having a problem with gamespy. after installing battlefield 2 for the first time i declined the option to install gamespy arcade. later when my computer was slowing up and had a few explorer crashes, i ran my anti-viris scan and it found gamespy ON my system as a PUP... even though i chose the option not to install gamespy earlier it somehow installed some portion of itself ON my system... now thats just wrong, especially since it was causing my computer to disfunction... i myself wonder how that happened...

pr0digal jenius · Dec 18, 2005, 07:09 PM

EA owns DICE....so throw stones at the big man, not at DICE

Dec 1, 2005, 10:44 AM	#1
EcPercy HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Iraq Posts: 1,535 Rep Power: 0	Shady tactics concerning EA and BF2 1.12 patch So the other day I installed the new patch for BF2, version 1.12. Not long after this SAV10 reported adware.gamespyarcade. http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/ven...spyarcade.html What is the meaning of this? I know when I initially installed BF2 I didn't select the option to install the gamespy arcade. I ran the 1.12 installer again and there was no EULA present. Why would they install something without permission?

Dec 1, 2005, 12:29 PM	#3
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	nope not EA all they did is pay DICE to make it and slap an EA logo on it lol its DICE u wana talk about and yes they suck with the patches pretty soon they're gona be over a gig lol 200mb+ patch __________________

Dec 1, 2005, 04:28 PM	#4
Ubergrendle Semper ubi sub ubi Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 702 Rep Power: 51	Gamespy is the ingame multiplayer browser, most of the pieces of gamespy have always been there... the patch installation probably just triggered a detection of some .dlls. As for patches changing the EULA w/o notification, this is standard in the industry now. Microsoft is famous for using bug-fixes to change your user rights. As much as I love the BF2 gameplay, I'm tired of bad patches, bleeding expansion features into the vanilla game, and surrepticious software. I won't be buying another EA / DICE product. PS EA owns DICE... they bought 61% of the company a few months back. They're they same company now... DICE is just a 'brand'. __________________ Veteran of the PC Microchannel / EISA wars of the late 1980s.

Dec 1, 2005, 06:30 PM	#7
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	You told would youi likw toi install gamespy when installing the gme SAY NO. the games still plays MP it just the gamespy stand alone your asked to install is ad supported (adware) __________________

Dec 3, 2005, 05:46 PM	#9
Ubergrendle Semper ubi sub ubi Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 702 Rep Power: 51	Speaking of shady tactics... The authentication servers for Battlefield 2 and Spec Ops have now been down for 6+ hours and there is no ETA on a fix. This is a worldwide problem -- NO ONE can play BF2 right now. Looks like EA farked up both BF2 and BF:SF installs with their latest 1.12 patch. Yay EA! It will be the last EA product I ever buy...BF2 gameplay is awesome, but the support and patches make Microsoft look like angels in comparison. __________________ Veteran of the PC Microchannel / EISA wars of the late 1980s.

Dec 1, 2005, 12:26 PM	#2
Drakon DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Floatin'... Posts: 4,957 Rep Power: 0	Because it's EA and they can do whatever they want

Dec 1, 2005, 04:36 PM	#5
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	Most games use gamespy for the in game multiplayer now a days anyways...that's probably what you're seeing

Dec 1, 2005, 06:14 PM	Thread Starter #6
EcPercy HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Iraq Posts: 1,535 Rep Power: 0	I know most games use gamespy, but I never got this warning before. I have had BF2 installed since the day it came out. I know that it's BF2 causing the problem because the adware.gamespyarcade file is located in the BF2 directory. I have reinstalled windows recently and SAV10 was one of the first things that I installed after windows. I installed BF2 with the 1.03 patch and I didn't get that warning. The only thing that was changed recently on my computer is that I installed the 1.12 patch for BF2. I have other games that use gamespy as the "in-game" browser and they are not giving that warning. Oh, I also know about EA buying DICE. I also remember hearing that the team from Trauma Studios (Makers of the Desert Combat Mod for BF42) were shown the door after contributing their part to BF2.

Dec 3, 2005, 06:17 PM	#11
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Yeah, I really don't like EA, they are the destroyer of good games. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Dec 6, 2005, 08:50 PM	#12
Ubergrendle Semper ubi sub ubi Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 702 Rep Power: 51	official word was that the stats server only was down, authenticaion engine was still running. whoever designed the BF2 client to not have a timeout on a non-critical gameplay element needs to be taken into the alley and shot. Error handling for external network components is programming 101 -- I'd fire one of my developers for making such an obvious mistake. BF2 is reminding me of a 1980s jaguar... great engine and styling, lousy reliabaility and back electronics! __________________ Veteran of the PC Microchannel / EISA wars of the late 1980s.

Dec 15, 2005, 05:47 AM	#13
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	FYI this isnt new and SAV10 picks up gamespy on other games I've installed (SCCT, FEAR) it wont even install the game if auto protect is on. This is just the gamespy files loading for install but you always have a choice not to install gamespy afterwards. Still, oddly SAV10 often detects gamespy on my comp out of the blue. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Dec 15, 2005, 01:09 PM	#14
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	not EA people EA jsut paid a ton of $ to put their name on the game its DICE u gota be mad at DICE made the game not EA and DICE does the patches EA jsut takes the credit-good or bad __________________

Dec 18, 2005, 01:51 AM	#15
p_dante DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	a lot of EA games come with that rediculous gamespy arcade... everytime i installed one of my battlefield games i ended up having a problem with gamespy. after installing battlefield 2 for the first time i declined the option to install gamespy arcade. later when my computer was slowing up and had a few explorer crashes, i ran my anti-viris scan and it found gamespy ON my system as a PUP... even though i chose the option not to install gamespy earlier it somehow installed some portion of itself ON my system... now thats just wrong, especially since it was causing my computer to disfunction... i myself wonder how that happened...

Dec 18, 2005, 07:09 PM	#16
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	EA owns DICE....so throw stones at the big man, not at DICE