Half-Life 2 looks nothing like i remember (56k warning)

**temeteus82** · Jan 1, 2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ViRuS2k

those pics i posted was with Windows XP x64 + Dualcore 4400+ Cpu :P

And win xp 64 is your OS?

Dark Lord · Jan 1, 2006, 07:57 PM

and there we have it.

a 64/64 system - no flaws
a 64/32 system - lots of flaws

ViRuS2k · Jan 1, 2006, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by temeteus82

And win xp 64 is your OS?

yes its the os im useing now

32bit Blows.
the only reason that was keeping me from moveing to x64 was its lame image support

now that daemon tools v4.1 x64 is released im not going back

VISTA is my next oS later this year.

germanjulian · Jan 1, 2006, 08:14 PM

uhhh dam that does look bad.... dont they test the patches they bring out ONES!?
worse the BF2 patches

Dark Lord · Jan 1, 2006, 10:06 PM

further i go, the worse it gets

yes, hes shiny

and that dirty brick walk shines like it was just waxed

hes also got a nice glossy coat to him

cant say ive ever seen weatherd wood shine before

anyone remember the ocean that used to be here?

ohhhh glossy

ViRuS2k · Jan 1, 2006, 10:19 PM

what the hell is wrong with your guys HL2`s lol

i will try and get a picture of the exact same places as the 5th and 6th pics you posted darklord.

EDIT UPDATE:

ok here are the pics i added a extra one to hehe
btw the only thing in this game thats annoying me is the DRAWDISTANCE
anyone know how to up the drawdistance to maximum so i see everything lol

you know like how you can do with farcry, btw im not getting the shiny surfuces problems here hehe..... as you can see....

or

as you can see image quality is superb, if only i could fix the drawdistance lol

Dark Lord · Jan 1, 2006, 10:57 PM

that looks just how it should. too bad valve has screwed this game up so much.

ViRuS2k · Jan 1, 2006, 11:15 PM

you dont happen to know how to extend the drawdistance do you ?
where i can see everything lol

thats the only thing that pissing me off about the game
it has a weak ass drawdistance ect.

Dark Lord · Jan 1, 2006, 11:33 PM

i dont think you can.

i took a quick look through this and didnt see anything. maybe you can find something.

http://www.hl2world.com/wiki/index.p...nsole_Commands

ViRuS2k · Jan 2, 2006, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Lord

i dont think you can.

i took a quick look through this and didnt see anything. maybe you can find something.

http://www.hl2world.com/wiki/index.p...nsole_Commands

ahh thanks for looking, i cant see anything there though hehe

deekey777 · Jan 2, 2006, 01:32 AM

For people with WinXP x32:
Type mat_specular 0 in the HL2's console, this helps to avoid shiny stones and other shiny things...

Tipstaff · Jan 2, 2006, 02:50 AM

What a mess. I'm so glad I finished the game long before this messup. Don't think I could have played it in the state it's in now.

BWX · Jan 2, 2006, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord

and there we have it.

a 64/64 system - no flaws
a 64/32 system - lots of flaws

Nope I have 32/32 and it is totally screwed up from the last time I played it.

Reflections look like ASS... All kinds of other things that look like ASS...

This is with everything maxed out in the options- it looks the same no matter what. I guess I could do that console command, but then I am sure things that re supposed to look shiny will look flat.

BWX · Jan 2, 2006, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ViRuS2k

Whats wrong with these shots ?
i dont see anything wrong here.! it has to be your Graphics cards or system settings.

?

That looks like crap to me.. The water used to look much better. I have some older shots around from when I had a 9700pro that looks 100 x better. That water in your shot looks like mud.. It is supposed to look like water.

Again, there is definitely a problem.. buy who cares-- it's HL2 right, we are used to it being messed with constantly, and being messed up with constant patches. -well I am anyway.

deekey777 · Jan 2, 2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BWX

That looks like crap to me.. The water used to look much better. I have some older shots around from when I had a 9700pro that looks 100 x better. That water in your shot looks like mud.. It is supposed to look like water.

It's the famous AI bug, turn it off.

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Originally Posted by BWX

Water looks normal.

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Originally Posted by BWX

AI bug.

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Originally Posted by BWX

Again, there is definitely a problem.. buy who cares-- it's HL2 right, we are used to it being messed with constantly, and being messed up with constant patches. -well I am anyway.

ATi's shader compiler seems to have a problem with Source's water shader since catalyst 5.7.
But VALVe has made it perfect and has added a new "shiny" water and other things bug.

Sandok · Jan 2, 2006, 09:36 PM

The water now looks very reptitive I find.. And it has nothing to do with drivers since it happened from on day to another without cat changes... Only steam updates.

BWX · Jan 2, 2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by deekey777

It's the famous AI bug, turn it off.

Water looks normal.

AI bug.

ATi's shader compiler seems to have a problem with Source's water shader since catalyst 5.7.
But VALVe has made it perfect and has added a new "shiny" water and other things bug.

Yeah it looks normal because those shots are FROM A LONG time AGO.... an example of when it looked good- like I said in the post.

I have some other screens- this first one is with AI and HDR OFF and it looks identical to the first screen I posted.

HDR control seems to do absolutely nothing in HL2.

Notice the texture that doesn't move in the "background of the reflection".. Damn- it looks horrible..

Ok, now look at the Lost Coast:

Absolute suckage..

With HDR full-

resizer messed that one up.. still you can see the ugly rock wall..

The water does not get the HDR reflection like it did....

Original HDR full:

Another original- good HDR reflection...

Again- full HDR on water reflections when LC came out:

Now with "BLOOM".. Oh man- Valve totally screwed up here...

BWX · Jan 2, 2006, 10:04 PM

More examples of ugliness with "bloom"

Nack to FULL HDR- Again, totally screwed..

Then again, some of it looks good still-

Dark Lord · Jan 2, 2006, 10:21 PM

im going to go reinstall lost coast so i can take a look at this.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 2, 2006, 10:32 PM

just took a shot with my X1800 systems and "full bloom" looks perfictly fine
to me....

It (the .png) to big for image shack I'll have to compress
the image to jpg

EDIT:

Here is the the reduced quailty images

try forceing you dirextX level my best guess is the game is incorrectly
trying to use PS 3.0 on you ps 2.0 cards (or something)

Dark Lord · Jan 2, 2006, 11:14 PM

heres what ive got

bloom

full

bloom

full

bloom

full

bloom

full

bloom (dont have a full for this)

bloom

SFOSOK · Jan 3, 2006, 12:12 AM

I'm guessing the problem is your cards do not support full HDR.

BWX · Jan 3, 2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Death Flavor

I'm guessing the problem is your cards do not support full HDR.

Mine did before- look at my post above- and the pictures in lost coast with "original"... it is full HDR.

Even Neons last pic-- the water reflection is not as bright as the sky.. in my original lost coast full HRD the water reflection is as bright as the sky..

I think it is valve's fault..

original loast coast on X800XL- looks good-

x1800 full HDR- (now)

Not to mention how messed up a lot of other things are.. I can't believe they would leave the game in this state without an immediate patch to at least put it back to the way it was when it first came out..

Judas · Jan 3, 2006, 11:16 PM

Windows XP Pro (32bit) has some DAMN nasty graphics that are being shown.

Windows XP 64Bit however..... looked perfectly fine.

g35x · Jan 4, 2006, 01:36 PM

hhhmmm i have xp pro x64 edition so it auto detected that and upgraded me to the x64 hl2....looks awesome to me....i play 4xaa 16xaf hdr on.....looks great

Vikingod · Jan 4, 2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by g35x

hhhmmm i have xp pro x64 edition so it auto detected that and upgraded me to the x64 hl2....looks awesome to me....i play 4xaa 16xaf hdr on.....looks great

question, how big is the download (estimate if necessary).

g35x · Jan 4, 2006, 06:17 PM

not sure,didnt take more then an hour because it was right after i got my computer together and put x64 windows on then installed hl2 from the cds then it did quite a few updates lol

Judas · Jan 4, 2006, 06:27 PM

Everyone including 32bit versions.... download the same amount.. it's no larger...

You simply startup half life 2 or the lost coast, it'll detect that you are running in native 64bit mode... and run in 64bit mode automatically.

ViRuS2k · Jan 4, 2006, 07:49 PM

hmm i wonder why Counter strike source isnt 64x bit native yet.

only HL2 when loading brings up a little box at the top saying its running in x64 mode enabled.

but source doesnt.. :o

Dark Lord · Jan 4, 2006, 08:57 PM

i found a fix for the glitches. its not great, but it works. just force it to DirectX 8.1

9.0

8.1

original

9.0

8.1

Jan 1, 2006, 07:57 PM	Thread Starter #32
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Jan 1, 2006, 08:14 PM	#34
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Jan 1, 2006, 10:06 PM	Thread Starter #35
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	further i go, the worse it gets yes, hes shiny and that dirty brick walk shines like it was just waxed hes also got a nice glossy coat to him cant say ive ever seen weatherd wood shine before anyone remember the ocean that used to be here? ohhhh glossy __________________

Jan 1, 2006, 10:19 PM	#36
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	what the hell is wrong with your guys HL2`s lol i will try and get a picture of the exact same places as the 5th and 6th pics you posted darklord. EDIT UPDATE: ok here are the pics i added a extra one to hehe btw the only thing in this game thats annoying me is the DRAWDISTANCE anyone know how to up the drawdistance to maximum so i see everything lol you know like how you can do with farcry, btw im not getting the shiny surfuces problems here hehe..... as you can see.... or or as you can see image quality is superb, if only i could fix the drawdistance lol Last edited by ViRuS2k; Jan 1, 2006 at 10:36 PM.

Jan 1, 2006, 10:57 PM	Thread Starter #37
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	that looks just how it should. too bad valve has screwed this game up so much. __________________

Jan 1, 2006, 11:15 PM	#38
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	you dont happen to know how to extend the drawdistance do you ? where i can see everything lol thats the only thing that pissing me off about the game it has a weak ass drawdistance ect.

Jan 1, 2006, 11:33 PM	Thread Starter #39
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	i dont think you can. i took a quick look through this and didnt see anything. maybe you can find something. http://www.hl2world.com/wiki/index.p...nsole_Commands __________________

Jan 2, 2006, 01:32 AM	#41
deekey777 Grünschnabel Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Good Old Germany Posts: 285 Rep Power: 0	For people with WinXP x32: Type mat_specular 0 in the HL2's console, this helps to avoid shiny stones and other shiny things... __________________ I know, my english is terrible.

Jan 2, 2006, 02:50 AM	#42
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,660 Rep Power: 187 System Specs	What a mess. I'm so glad I finished the game long before this messup. Don't think I could have played it in the state it's in now. __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

Jan 2, 2006, 09:36 PM	#46
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	The water now looks very reptitive I find.. And it has nothing to do with drivers since it happened from on day to another without cat changes... Only steam updates.

Jan 2, 2006, 10:04 PM	#48
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	More examples of ugliness with "bloom" Nack to FULL HDR- Again, totally screwed.. Then again, some of it looks good still- __________________

Jan 2, 2006, 10:21 PM	Thread Starter #49
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	im going to go reinstall lost coast so i can take a look at this. __________________

Jan 2, 2006, 10:32 PM	#50
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	just took a shot with my X1800 systems and "full bloom" looks perfictly fine to me.... It (the .png) to big for image shack I'll have to compress the image to jpg EDIT: Here is the the reduced quailty images try forceing you dirextX level my best guess is the game is incorrectly trying to use PS 3.0 on you ps 2.0 cards (or something) __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Jan 5, 2006 at 03:31 AM.

Jan 2, 2006, 11:14 PM	Thread Starter #51
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	heres what ive got bloom full bloom full bloom full bloom full bloom (dont have a full for this) bloom __________________

Jan 3, 2006, 12:12 AM	#52
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	I'm guessing the problem is your cards do not support full HDR. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Jan 4, 2006, 01:36 PM	#55
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 43 System Specs	hhhmmm i have xp pro x64 edition so it auto detected that and upgraded me to the x64 hl2....looks awesome to me....i play 4xaa 16xaf hdr on.....looks great __________________

Jan 4, 2006, 06:17 PM	#57
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 43 System Specs	not sure,didnt take more then an hour because it was right after i got my computer together and put x64 windows on then installed hl2 from the cds then it did quite a few updates lol __________________

Jan 4, 2006, 07:49 PM	#59
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	hmm i wonder why Counter strike source isnt 64x bit native yet. only HL2 when loading brings up a little box at the top saying its running in x64 mode enabled. but source doesnt.. :o

Jan 4, 2006, 08:57 PM	Thread Starter #60
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	i found a fix for the glitches. its not great, but it works. just force it to DirectX 8.1 9.0 8.1 original 9.0 8.1 __________________