Players see me be4 i see them??

NinjaFrag · Feb 9, 2006, 08:12 PM

I hope this is the right forum if not im sorry

The game im playing is UT99

I have a problem with players seeing me be4 i see them.
Like they will start shooting at me be4 i see them.
Im not lagging at all plays smooth but its like every1 sees me be4 i see them on my screen

In chicago servers i ping 20-25
In NJ servers i ping 60-70

Is there some PC settings i need 2 set??
Any UT settings??

My Specs
AMD 64 3500+
512Ram
x600pro 256mb ATI pci-ex(Omega Driver 6.1)

Connection DSL
2.4 DownLoad
440 Upload
or a 3008//512 connection

In my UT settings i got everything on med.(Even tried with everything on Low same results)
Vsynce is turned On

Ty 4 your time

No_Style · Feb 9, 2006, 10:14 PM

Draw distance? I don't recall there being a draw distance problem in UT99. Why aren't your settings at High? X600 PRO should be able to handle High. Some games tie the draw distance into detail settings.

It could also be the fact that people are just spamming shots? I know some people do that.

LHC · Feb 9, 2006, 10:35 PM

I'm not entirely sure on the whole UT engine and all, but I know that with Counter Strike this happens when you have your fps_max command set higher than your monitor's refresh rate. You lose some frames per second since it's higher than what the monitor can actually handle.

Try adjusting stuff with your max fps (frames per second) if UT has something like that

Also, if you have Vsync turned off, that could be it (I'm just throwing ideas out here, if you don't understand some things I/somebody else can explain)

NinjaFrag · Feb 9, 2006, 11:49 PM

No there not spaming shots

Im always on the walls and they have enough time 2 target me and fire be4 i see them.
The reason i have it on low is because im use 2 lower end cards

Also im playing Instagib

I could be running and no1 is in my screen
Then some1 just comes out of nowhere trying 2 kill me :s
Or i can turn around real fast and theres some1 there when they wasnt there be4

I got Vsynce turned On(UT Settings)
My refresh rate on my desktop is set at 75
But with Omega Driver it says like 200 (In yellow text)
I dont see anywhere 2 max your frame rate 2 75 in the UT settings

Or wait Wait For Vertical Sync was turned Off
I turned it on and got 75 Frames but my mouse felt funny like it was sliding

LHC · Feb 10, 2006, 12:03 AM

Hmm.. well I didn't really see anything on this site (http://dx.ampednews.com/?page=content&id=243) about changing the FPS, but while in the game, could you type into the console "STAT FPS" (if it doens't work, try without quotes)? And after that, tell us the numbers that show up

NinjaFrag · Feb 10, 2006, 12:12 AM

Ok i got this

Frame=5.8-5.9 kept going back real fast between these 2
Msec Render=001.8
Msec Nodes=091
Polys=015

LHC · Feb 10, 2006, 12:22 AM

Were those rates with Vsync On or Off?

NinjaFrag · Feb 10, 2006, 12:28 AM

In the UT settings it says its On
But in the ATI Control Panel its Off
Becuase when its on in the Control Panel it makes my mouse feel like its sliding around

LHC · Feb 10, 2006, 12:34 AM

In the ATI Control Panel, there should be an option for Vsync Always On (then again, I'm still running the 4.12 Omegas

) Set it to Always On in the Control Panel, and see if that fixes your problem.

NinjaFrag · Feb 10, 2006, 12:38 AM

With it turned on in the Control Panel it says 12-13 Frames
But the downside is i cant aim with it cause my mouse has a sliding affect when its turned on in the Control Panel.

But it says my frames is at 75(In Yeallow text)

OmegaRED · Feb 10, 2006, 12:40 AM

Maybe everyone is hacking?

LHC · Feb 10, 2006, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaFrag

With it turned on in the Control Panel it says 12-13 Frames
But the downside is i cant aim with it cause my mouse has a sliding affect when its turned on in the Control Panel.

But it says my frames is at 75(In Yeallow text)

Yea, that's kinda confusing me, because with about 12 FPS, the game is so choppy it gets very hard to play

NinjaFrag · Feb 10, 2006, 12:52 AM

in stat net it says 12-13 :P
mabey thats not the right frames?

LHC · Feb 10, 2006, 01:02 AM

I think that Omega fps showing would be accurate..

It's weird, because on this site (http://www.macupdate.com/reviews.php?id=14155&os=macos) the people are talking about 30-80 FPS on a GeForce4 Ti on UT2004. Your X600 Pro should be murdering that FPS, especially on UT99..

though that site is Mac

Another thing that could be wrong is the video card driver. Have you had problems with it before?

NinjaFrag · Feb 10, 2006, 01:17 AM

nope never had any problems with this pc or video card
mabey i need 2 reinstall them?

o thats 2k4 yeah when i type in stat fps or w/e that is in 2k4
i max out at 85fps and dosent move.but it looks like it wants 2 go beyond the 85 cap limit

LHC · Feb 10, 2006, 01:24 AM

Well, if UT2k4 runs fine, then it's not your video card drivers. I think there's a problem with UT99 itself. I'd say reinstall it, but you might want to wait for somebody else's opinion on this.

NinjaFrag · Feb 10, 2006, 01:27 AM

well in UT99 it does what 2k4(Caped at 85) does in Stat Fps looks like its caped off at 13 frames but its trying 2 go beyond 13 frames and cant.

ty 4 all your time trying 2 help me

LHC · Feb 10, 2006, 01:33 AM

Ah! After going over that first site again, I think that UT calles it "tick rates" instead of "frame rates". So, in UT99 type these in the console, and say what both come up as

GETMAXTICKRATE

GETCURRENTTICKRATE

NinjaFrag · Feb 10, 2006, 02:09 AM

MaxTickrate didnt work
But GetCurrentTickRate did and it said 76.xxxx

So i do have 75 frames??

LHC · Feb 10, 2006, 02:12 AM

That's what I'd say. Are you still getting the problem with people seeing you before you see them?

NinjaFrag · Feb 10, 2006, 02:51 AM

Nope sometimes but not as much as be4
But when Vsync is turned on in Control Panel my mouse gets this Sliding Feel 2 it?
Is there anyway 2 limit UT framerate 2 75 without messing up my mouse feel??

ty 4 your time and help

Feb 9, 2006, 08:12 PM	#1
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Players see me be4 i see them?? I hope this is the right forum if not im sorry The game im playing is UT99 I have a problem with players seeing me be4 i see them. Like they will start shooting at me be4 i see them. Im not lagging at all plays smooth but its like every1 sees me be4 i see them on my screen In chicago servers i ping 20-25 In NJ servers i ping 60-70 Is there some PC settings i need 2 set?? Any UT settings?? My Specs AMD 64 3500+ 512Ram x600pro 256mb ATI pci-ex(Omega Driver 6.1) Connection DSL 2.4 DownLoad 440 Upload or a 3008//512 connection In my UT settings i got everything on med.(Even tried with everything on Low same results) Vsynce is turned On Ty 4 your time

Feb 9, 2006, 10:14 PM	#2
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Draw distance? I don't recall there being a draw distance problem in UT99. Why aren't your settings at High? X600 PRO should be able to handle High. Some games tie the draw distance into detail settings. It could also be the fact that people are just spamming shots? I know some people do that. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

Feb 9, 2006, 10:35 PM	#3
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I'm not entirely sure on the whole UT engine and all, but I know that with Counter Strike this happens when you have your fps_max command set higher than your monitor's refresh rate. You lose some frames per second since it's higher than what the monitor can actually handle. Try adjusting stuff with your max fps (frames per second) if UT has something like that Also, if you have Vsync turned off, that could be it (I'm just throwing ideas out here, if you don't understand some things I/somebody else can explain) __________________ Last edited by LHC; Feb 9, 2006 at 10:40 PM.

Feb 9, 2006, 11:49 PM	Thread Starter #4
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	No there not spaming shots Im always on the walls and they have enough time 2 target me and fire be4 i see them. The reason i have it on low is because im use 2 lower end cards Also im playing Instagib I could be running and no1 is in my screen Then some1 just comes out of nowhere trying 2 kill me :s Or i can turn around real fast and theres some1 there when they wasnt there be4 I got Vsynce turned On(UT Settings) My refresh rate on my desktop is set at 75 But with Omega Driver it says like 200 (In yellow text) I dont see anywhere 2 max your frame rate 2 75 in the UT settings Or wait Wait For Vertical Sync was turned Off I turned it on and got 75 Frames but my mouse felt funny like it was sliding Last edited by NinjaFrag; Feb 10, 2006 at 12:04 AM.

Feb 10, 2006, 12:03 AM	#5
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Hmm.. well I didn't really see anything on this site (http://dx.ampednews.com/?page=content&id=243) about changing the FPS, but while in the game, could you type into the console "STAT FPS" (if it doens't work, try without quotes)? And after that, tell us the numbers that show up __________________

Feb 10, 2006, 12:12 AM	Thread Starter #6
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Ok i got this Frame=5.8-5.9 kept going back real fast between these 2 Msec Render=001.8 Msec Nodes=091 Polys=015

Feb 10, 2006, 12:22 AM	#7
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Were those rates with Vsync On or Off? __________________

Feb 10, 2006, 12:28 AM	Thread Starter #8
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	In the UT settings it says its On But in the ATI Control Panel its Off Becuase when its on in the Control Panel it makes my mouse feel like its sliding around

Feb 10, 2006, 12:34 AM	#9
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	In the ATI Control Panel, there should be an option for Vsync Always On (then again, I'm still running the 4.12 Omegas ) Set it to Always On in the Control Panel, and see if that fixes your problem. __________________

Feb 10, 2006, 12:38 AM	Thread Starter #10
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	With it turned on in the Control Panel it says 12-13 Frames But the downside is i cant aim with it cause my mouse has a sliding affect when its turned on in the Control Panel. But it says my frames is at 75(In Yeallow text)

Feb 10, 2006, 12:40 AM	#11
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	Maybe everyone is hacking? __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Feb 10, 2006, 12:52 AM	Thread Starter #13
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	in stat net it says 12-13 :P mabey thats not the right frames?

Feb 10, 2006, 01:02 AM	#14
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I think that Omega fps showing would be accurate.. It's weird, because on this site (http://www.macupdate.com/reviews.php?id=14155&os=macos) the people are talking about 30-80 FPS on a GeForce4 Ti on UT2004. Your X600 Pro should be murdering that FPS, especially on UT99.. though that site is Mac Another thing that could be wrong is the video card driver. Have you had problems with it before? __________________ Last edited by LHC; Feb 10, 2006 at 01:11 AM.

Feb 10, 2006, 01:17 AM	Thread Starter #15
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	nope never had any problems with this pc or video card mabey i need 2 reinstall them? o thats 2k4 yeah when i type in stat fps or w/e that is in 2k4 i max out at 85fps and dosent move.but it looks like it wants 2 go beyond the 85 cap limit

Feb 10, 2006, 01:24 AM	#16
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Well, if UT2k4 runs fine, then it's not your video card drivers. I think there's a problem with UT99 itself. I'd say reinstall it, but you might want to wait for somebody else's opinion on this. __________________

Feb 10, 2006, 01:27 AM	Thread Starter #17
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	well in UT99 it does what 2k4(Caped at 85) does in Stat Fps looks like its caped off at 13 frames but its trying 2 go beyond 13 frames and cant. ty 4 all your time trying 2 help me

Feb 10, 2006, 01:33 AM	#18
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Ah! After going over that first site again, I think that UT calles it "tick rates" instead of "frame rates". So, in UT99 type these in the console, and say what both come up as GETMAXTICKRATE GETCURRENTTICKRATE __________________

Feb 10, 2006, 02:09 AM	Thread Starter #19
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	MaxTickrate didnt work But GetCurrentTickRate did and it said 76.xxxx So i do have 75 frames??

Feb 10, 2006, 02:12 AM	#20
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	That's what I'd say. Are you still getting the problem with people seeing you before you see them? __________________

Feb 10, 2006, 02:51 AM	Thread Starter #21
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Nope sometimes but not as much as be4 But when Vsync is turned on in Control Panel my mouse gets this Sliding Feel 2 it? Is there anyway 2 limit UT framerate 2 75 without messing up my mouse feel?? ty 4 your time and help