Star Wars: Empire at War

Vikingod · Feb 19, 2006, 03:15 PM

Well, anyone have it yet? The demo was a ton of fun for me, I might pick the game up tonight, if I can come up with the loot.

First impressions anyone?

zenkmander · Feb 19, 2006, 07:49 PM

I like it. It was actually pretty difficult at first, and I was playing on Medium. I'm mostly talking about space battles and galactic retaliation (after you capture an Imperial planet, for example). I dunno, maybe just the Rebel campaign is hard?

Zardon · Feb 19, 2006, 08:20 PM

yeah it seems good but ill need another 4 or 5 hours with it to confirm.... hopefully sometime this week!

Sandok · Feb 19, 2006, 08:29 PM

Hopefully soon I can tell you all what it's like

Necrosis · Feb 19, 2006, 10:49 PM

I might pick this up as well.

Vehicon · Feb 20, 2006, 12:34 AM

I enjoyed the demo, havent played the retail yet, but im hearing some good things about it. A buddy of mine is going to pick it up sometime this week, im hoping to get to play it some.

OmegaRED · Feb 20, 2006, 01:11 AM

I've started off with the Emperial campaign on medium, at first it is very easy the rebels barely attack you but then once you reach tech level 2 they constantly invade your planets or attack the fleets. It can be frustrating and boring having to defend the same battleground repeatedly. Ground battles are tedius cause it is always the same attacks and units whereas space battles you can use different tactics each time.

All in all it is a decent game but it will not have much replay value unless the patches introduce something new. It would be a lot cooler game if you didnt have stupid 20 unit cap for space battles that doesnt leave much room for mixing and matching space ships.

nuG · Feb 20, 2006, 09:58 AM

I' playing the rebel campaign on medium and its pretty freakin hard. First level wasnt too bad...... but man, does it get TOUGH. I dont know if this game just has a steep learning curve or its suppose to be this hard. Its kinda frustrating.

Zardon · Feb 20, 2006, 11:02 AM

maybe try it on easy?

~~Alien1~~ · Feb 20, 2006, 03:41 PM

It's not a bad game
but of course it's not the best from the kind either

Graphics are a little outdated (they are not ugly but are somehow poor in detail)

and it has some ugly bugs both in Multiplayer and Singleplayer (not tested patch 1.2 yet)

It's not Rome Total War from the gameplay\RTS view either of but it's Ok for a "Command and Conquer\Homeworld style of game" i guess

The Hardcore RTS fans maybe will not like it as much as the Star wars fans

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Originally Posted by nuG

I' playing the rebel campaign on medium and its pretty freakin hard. First level wasnt too bad...... but man, does it get TOUGH. I dont know if this game just has a steep learning curve or its suppose to be this hard. Its kinda frustrating.

Rebels are having some nasty tricks but they are weak military speaking
They are more about making ambushes and tactical strikes than big battles etc

Try the Imperials if you love easy big fights etc

Vikingod · Feb 20, 2006, 03:55 PM

Well, looks like I'll be holding off on it. Read a few reviews and from what everyone says here is the game doesn't seem like it would be worth the $50.00 to me. Maybe when it goes down in price. I should just put the money toward Oblivion.

MiDri · Feb 20, 2006, 05:05 PM

If you are playing rebels, once you learn how to effectivly use your ships you own the empire so bad. (Victory class star destroyers, and the other star destroyers, are easy to take out if you blow their hanger first.) Same with space stations, take out hangers, then missles, then torpidos, then the rest of the station.

On the ground, make sure you have some of the special ops guys (i forget their name, 2 per unit sniper guys with explosives) and keep han and chubaka with attacking forces (chubaka can steal enemy vechiles, really good vs atat!)

SFOSOK · Feb 20, 2006, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikingod

Well, looks like I'll be holding off on it. Read a few reviews and from what everyone says here is the game doesn't seem like it would be worth the $50.00 to me. Maybe when it goes down in price. I should just put the money toward Oblivion.

Good way to go, I don't even think Oblivion could be bad even if they tried to mess it up on purpose. It will be one of the few games I buy this year on release, that and GRAW.

mkk · Feb 21, 2006, 12:37 AM

I like the mixed gameplay of the Galactic Conquest mode where you "skirmish" against the computer taking planets and building bases. The initial feeling you get is that there's a lot to try and for a while the Star Wars charm certainly keeps you interested.

Surprisingly to me I have found the ground battle to be the weakest part. In a game where designer house resources must have been kept tightly, I would have expected a generic but well working ground battle engine and perhaps potholes in other parts of the game. Battles tend to be small, often really small. It just feels wrong that when you have a huge spacefleet surrounding a planet, all you can send down to the surface in one go is often just two-three units. Sending down Darth Vader or some other "hero" unit to take a second drop point with more "unit slots" for more troops seems like fun at first, but when almost every planet battle start like that it just doesn't feel like Star Wars, or any RTS game of this century.

But larger space battles are more fun and together with the planetary management you get a game that can be played for a while. I also haven't tried the campaign mode yet and although I don't expect much of it there should at least be some added Star Wars style entertainment in there. I'm generally more for the type of gamplay presented in the Galactic Conquest mode.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Feb 21, 2006, 06:21 AM

hmmmm... another demo I need to try... though I perobubly wait till its 19.99
unless it has Multi player ten I might buy it much much sooner. This is all depenadant
on how the demo goes ..... downloading it now....

nuG · Feb 21, 2006, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

maybe try it on easy?

You are so smart

OmegaRED · Feb 22, 2006, 12:44 AM

I beat the Imperial Campaign on medium and it got SOOOO easy at the end, half of the universe was turned into rubble with the Death Star there was no challenge.

What really sucked is not once did I ever encounter a single hero on the rebellion side nor get to use Mara Jade, Boba Fett in ground battles wtf is the point of bounty hunters where there arent any heros to hunt.

~~Alien1~~ · Feb 23, 2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRED

wtf is the point of bounty hunters where there arent any heros to hunt.

They are more usefull in multiplayer

MiDri · Feb 24, 2006, 12:41 AM

Happy they fixed Han Solo (in space) in 1.2 patch... I could destroy entire fleets of victory class cruisers + space stations with that guy...

Yousaif · Feb 27, 2006, 11:26 AM

I bought the game on Saturday morning and still haven't got very far into the rebel campaign. I like that it forces you to look at the trade routes and such to keep an eye on where you need to keep your forces stationed to protect your area of influence.

Its definitely not Rome TW. Its a real time game and not a turn based game. THe only thing that was truly real time on RTW was the actual battles.

I'm not a Star Wars fanboi, but the game itself seems to take the tech of the movie and translate it nicely into a nicely playable game.

I don't regret buying it. Not one bit.

crapman777 · Feb 27, 2006, 11:54 AM

Its been a while since i have played any RTS, maybe since Total War, i have thoroughly enjoyed the single player campaign, but as some have said, the ground battles seem a little lacking.
Sometimes i can run around with a group of infantry and take a whole planet, there are some AI issues for sure, though space battles are a challenge at times, however is it me, or can you not rotate the camera?

Space battles feel a little cluttered sometimes, and i tell one group to go over here or there and it takes a few clicks to get them moving.

Overall though, it is what Galaxies should have been.
Nice game overall.

Yousaif · Feb 27, 2006, 03:58 PM

I was looking for an excuse to upgrade my video card anyway, Lol.

Feb 19, 2006, 03:15 PM	#1
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	Star Wars: Empire at War Well, anyone have it yet? The demo was a ton of fun for me, I might pick the game up tonight, if I can come up with the loot. First impressions anyone?

Feb 19, 2006, 07:49 PM	#2
zenkmander DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 136 Rep Power: 0	I like it. It was actually pretty difficult at first, and I was playing on Medium. I'm mostly talking about space battles and galactic retaliation (after you capture an Imperial planet, for example). I dunno, maybe just the Rebel campaign is hard? __________________ Intel Pentium 4 Prescott Processor (socket 478) 3.0GHz @ 3.60 GHz BFG GeForce 6800GT OC @ 385/1170 2048gb G.Skill PC4000 DDR RAM SoundBlaster Audigy2 ZS Asus P4P800-E Deluxe Motherboard

Feb 20, 2006, 12:34 AM	#6
Vehicon The Cable Guy Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA IL. Posts: 466 Rep Power: 62 System Specs	I enjoyed the demo, havent played the retail yet, but im hearing some good things about it. A buddy of mine is going to pick it up sometime this week, im hoping to get to play it some. __________________

Feb 20, 2006, 01:11 AM	#7
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	I've started off with the Emperial campaign on medium, at first it is very easy the rebels barely attack you but then once you reach tech level 2 they constantly invade your planets or attack the fleets. It can be frustrating and boring having to defend the same battleground repeatedly. Ground battles are tedius cause it is always the same attacks and units whereas space battles you can use different tactics each time. All in all it is a decent game but it will not have much replay value unless the patches introduce something new. It would be a lot cooler game if you didnt have stupid 20 unit cap for space battles that doesnt leave much room for mixing and matching space ships. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Feb 20, 2006, 09:58 AM	#8
nuG is having a sexy party Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,779 Rep Power: 0	I' playing the rebel campaign on medium and its pretty freakin hard. First level wasnt too bad...... but man, does it get TOUGH. I dont know if this game just has a steep learning curve or its suppose to be this hard. Its kinda frustrating. __________________ [COLOR=Black][/COLOR]

Feb 19, 2006, 08:20 PM	#3
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	yeah it seems good but ill need another 4 or 5 hours with it to confirm.... hopefully sometime this week!

Feb 19, 2006, 08:29 PM	#4
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	Hopefully soon I can tell you all what it's like

Feb 19, 2006, 10:49 PM	#5
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	I might pick this up as well.

Feb 20, 2006, 11:02 AM	#9
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	maybe try it on easy?

Feb 20, 2006, 03:55 PM	Thread Starter #11
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	Well, looks like I'll be holding off on it. Read a few reviews and from what everyone says here is the game doesn't seem like it would be worth the $50.00 to me. Maybe when it goes down in price. I should just put the money toward Oblivion.

Feb 20, 2006, 05:05 PM	#12
MiDri DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 930 Rep Power: 0	If you are playing rebels, once you learn how to effectivly use your ships you own the empire so bad. (Victory class star destroyers, and the other star destroyers, are easy to take out if you blow their hanger first.) Same with space stations, take out hangers, then missles, then torpidos, then the rest of the station. On the ground, make sure you have some of the special ops guys (i forget their name, 2 per unit sniper guys with explosives) and keep han and chubaka with attacking forces (chubaka can steal enemy vechiles, really good vs atat!)

Feb 21, 2006, 12:37 AM	#14
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,490 Rep Power: 132 System Specs	I like the mixed gameplay of the Galactic Conquest mode where you "skirmish" against the computer taking planets and building bases. The initial feeling you get is that there's a lot to try and for a while the Star Wars charm certainly keeps you interested. Surprisingly to me I have found the ground battle to be the weakest part. In a game where designer house resources must have been kept tightly, I would have expected a generic but well working ground battle engine and perhaps potholes in other parts of the game. Battles tend to be small, often really small. It just feels wrong that when you have a huge spacefleet surrounding a planet, all you can send down to the surface in one go is often just two-three units. Sending down Darth Vader or some other "hero" unit to take a second drop point with more "unit slots" for more troops seems like fun at first, but when almost every planet battle start like that it just doesn't feel like Star Wars, or any RTS game of this century. But larger space battles are more fun and together with the planetary management you get a game that can be played for a while. I also haven't tried the campaign mode yet and although I don't expect much of it there should at least be some added Star Wars style entertainment in there. I'm generally more for the type of gamplay presented in the Galactic Conquest mode.

Feb 21, 2006, 06:21 AM	#15
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	hmmmm... another demo I need to try... though I perobubly wait till its 19.99 unless it has Multi player ten I might buy it much much sooner. This is all depenadant on how the demo goes ..... downloading it now.... __________________

Feb 22, 2006, 12:44 AM	#17
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	I beat the Imperial Campaign on medium and it got SOOOO easy at the end, half of the universe was turned into rubble with the Death Star there was no challenge. What really sucked is not once did I ever encounter a single hero on the rebellion side nor get to use Mara Jade, Boba Fett in ground battles wtf is the point of bounty hunters where there arent any heros to hunt. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Feb 24, 2006, 12:41 AM	#19
MiDri DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 930 Rep Power: 0	Happy they fixed Han Solo (in space) in 1.2 patch... I could destroy entire fleets of victory class cruisers + space stations with that guy...

Feb 27, 2006, 11:54 AM	#21
crapman777 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 158 Rep Power: 0	Its been a while since i have played any RTS, maybe since Total War, i have thoroughly enjoyed the single player campaign, but as some have said, the ground battles seem a little lacking. Sometimes i can run around with a group of infantry and take a whole planet, there are some AI issues for sure, though space battles are a challenge at times, however is it me, or can you not rotate the camera? Space battles feel a little cluttered sometimes, and i tell one group to go over here or there and it takes a few clicks to get them moving. Overall though, it is what Galaxies should have been. Nice game overall.