DirectX10 Coming for everyone, with the help of the 'Alky Project'

Vikingod · Apr 22, 2007, 12:41 PM

Source: techPowerUp!
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We all know that DirectX10, for many of us, means an expensive upgrade and the move to a new operating system. We also know that DirectX10 is going to be necessary to play DX10 games such as Crysis and Halo 2 for the PC. What if I told you that a project sought to change that? That you could run DirectX10-exclusive games such as Halo 2 for PC on a DirectX9 platform with Windows 2000? Thanks to the Alky Project, we may not have to spend a penny to enjoy DirectX10 goodness. A quote from their official blog (I know, it's not an official web-page, but they do link to working models) tells us exactly how we can make DirectX10 work without spending at least $270 on a DirectX10 upgrade ($170 NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT, $100 Windows Vista Home Basic).

Da_Jewish_Fonzy · Apr 22, 2007, 01:43 PM

sweet. m$ ftl

Arklon · Apr 22, 2007, 04:52 PM

It's a wrapper. Meaning it'll work, but very slowly.

topbob · Apr 22, 2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Arklon

It's a wrapper. Meaning it'll work, but very slowly.

you mean band-aid,
and how do you know if you haven't tried it?

CDsDontBurn · Apr 22, 2007, 06:28 PM

w00t~! so now we just need a $170 gfx card to get full dx10 use

Killer_uk · Apr 22, 2007, 07:15 PM

It's done by emulation, as said, the CPU will do all the work, meaning it will be ultra slow. This isn't the ticket out of buying a DX10 graphics card if you still want to play games. He didn't name it compatibility libraries for fun.

CDsDontBurn · Apr 22, 2007, 07:17 PM

so kinda like how dx9 worked when there were only dx8.1 cards available.

EcPercy · Apr 22, 2007, 07:18 PM

This sounds good. Personally, I like Vista better than XP. I know for certain that the driver issues will be resolved at some point so I will just stay with Vista...

CDsDontBurn · Apr 22, 2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EcPercy

This sounds good. Personally, I like Vista better than XP. I know for certain that the driver issues will be resolved at some point so I will just stay with Vista...

that's true. so for now, i'll stick to XP

.

OmegaRED · Apr 22, 2007, 09:37 PM

Developers will make DX10 games Vista only so they won't even install on 2000 or Xp, anything to force people to upgrade.

me972 · Apr 26, 2007, 06:29 AM

I think your right.. but still time will tell and the following of the "People" will tell...

if Vista doesn't take the xp out of the picture than someone will figure out its better to stay with the older systems.. cause that what makes the cash flow..

CDsDontBurn · Apr 26, 2007, 06:37 AM

when people call in and i ask them what OS they're using, some of them still use win98se!

that OS is basically 10yrs. old

i will upgrade to vista, but not until there is more/better driver support for all products, and also when there are a few good to awesome game titles out that would be vista exclusive

.

Dyre Straits · Apr 26, 2007, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

when people call in and i ask them what OS they're using, some of them still use win98se!

that OS is basically 10yrs. old

i will upgrade to vista, but not until there is more/better driver support for all products, and also when there are a few good to awesome game titles out that would be vista exclusive

.

Other than the need to be familiar with Vista myself, I'm encouraging people to not bother with it until an official Service Pack 1 is released.

Dyre Straits · Apr 27, 2007, 09:04 AM

RE: DirectX 10 on XP and why it won't work natively on XP, there was this article in the April PC Format magazine. Most of you guys already know the reasons, but maybe a few others would like to see some explanation that doesn't use some high falootin' terms to explain it.

Based on this, anything that will make/help DX10 to work under XP will create a pretty hefty performance hit. I don't think it's worth it myself.

CDsDontBurn · Apr 27, 2007, 10:03 AM

how much of a performance hit would it be though? 10% more CPU usage? and what kind of system specs would be required as the bare minimum to run dx10 from winXP?

Dyre Straits · Apr 27, 2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

how much of a performance hit would it be though? 10% more CPU usage? and what kind of system specs would be required as the bare minimum to run dx10 from winXP?

The article doesn't give a percentage hit. Only that the PC would slow down 'considerably'. Whether that's 'significantly', 'barely noticably', or 'a whole dang lot!' I don't know.

stormy13 · Apr 28, 2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyre Straits

The article doesn't give a percentage hit. Only that the PC would slow down 'considerably'. Whether that's 'significantly', 'barely noticably', or 'a whole dang lot!' I don't know.

Probably something along the lines of the cpu tests in 3D-06.

Apr 22, 2007, 12:41 PM	#1
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Da_Jewish_Fonzy Me>You Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Da Hood Posts: 507 Rep Power: 0	sweet. m$ ftl

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Arklon HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 163 Rep Power: 0	It's a wrapper. Meaning it'll work, but very slowly.

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Killer_uk DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stoke-on-Trent, UK Posts: 117 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	It's done by emulation, as said, the CPU will do all the work, meaning it will be ultra slow. This isn't the ticket out of buying a DX10 graphics card if you still want to play games. He didn't name it compatibility libraries for fun.

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EcPercy HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Iraq Posts: 1,535 Rep Power: 0	This sounds good. Personally, I like Vista better than XP. I know for certain that the driver issues will be resolved at some point so I will just stay with Vista...

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CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	how much of a performance hit would it be though? 10% more CPU usage? and what kind of system specs would be required as the bare minimum to run dx10 from winXP? __________________ Her First Day \| A year later