8 Reasons Why PC Gaming isn't Dead @ CVG

**MIG-31** · Feb 15, 2008, 07:30 PM

Source: CVG
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PC gaming is dying. Well, that's what dramatic headlines spawned off the back of figures showing declining sales of PC games at retail would have you believe, anyway.

Even traditional PC-lovin' developers are questioning its long-term value. Epic superstar Cliff 'Cliffy B' Bleszinski for example recently describing PC gaming as being in disarray and saying that for Epic "right now making AAA games on consoles is where we're at."

BlueMak · Feb 15, 2008, 09:03 PM

Wait, I thought that PC gaming keeps dying from the day N64 was released?
Every year, PC gaming is DEAD.
Meh.

Anyway good article I guess.

Hundrends of millions of PCs out there and people still say PC gaming is dead...

hohum · Feb 15, 2008, 09:50 PM

So... Epic release Gears of War for PC, a game that's been out for a year on the 360 already. Besides some extra content, it's basically the same average game with some good graphics. They also release UT3, another rehash of their multiplayer FPS, at around the same time the likes of ET:QW and Team Fortress 2 appear. They then wonder why their sales are naff?

Seems to me that they're just bitter, and placing the blame elsewhere.

Neshi · Feb 15, 2008, 10:49 PM

the more good games get published, the less each game will sell. Money can only be spend once.

Markius · Feb 15, 2008, 11:49 PM

sounded like he was trying to convince himself as much as the readers

PC gaming is not dead and i cant see it dying any time ever and its not because consoles cant do certain genres or whatever, ppl need to realise that saying keyboard/mouse is better than a pad is pure OPINION. (keep in mind keyboards and mice can be used on consoles, 99% of devs just dont add it to their games. last game i can remember that incorperated it well was quake 3 on dreamcast lol)

after they guy stated consoles havent "tapped into" the mmo market he kinda lost any credability in my eyes as the statment is straight up incorrect
(for the peeps who dont know, there is and has been for some time a MMO on the 360)

**Mousey** · Feb 15, 2008, 11:57 PM

Consoles age and need a "next-gen" successor to keep the market alive for the company that develops them. Computers can change effortlessly with the times though.
PC Gaming will NEVER die, End of.

OmegaRED · Feb 16, 2008, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mousey

Consoles age and need a "next-gen" successor to keep the market alive for the company that develops them. Computers can change effortlessly with the times though.
PC Gaming will NEVER die, End of.

Well said. Sure, a PS3 and 360 are great now but in a year or two they'll not be able to keep up with mid range video cards (we could already be at that stage).

I'm confident that with MS, Nvidia and AMD pushing for the success of PC gaming (they make way more from it than any of their consoles) PC gaming will always survive.

BlueMak · Feb 16, 2008, 09:00 AM

Guys, let's not forget that you need to pay some serious money (all things considered) to keep having an updated PC over the lifetime of a console.

Both platforms have good and bad things about them. I don't understand why some (like some articles that pop up every few months) see this is having to support either of the two. They have and they can continue to co exist.

OmegaRED · Feb 16, 2008, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMak

Guys, let's not forget that you need to pay some serious money (all things considered) to keep having an updated PC over the lifetime of a console.

Both platforms have good and bad things about them. I don't understand why some (like some articles that pop up every few months) see this is having to support either of the two. They have and they can continue to co exist.

It costs just as much to get a large HDTV for use with a console.

BlueMak · Feb 16, 2008, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaRED

It costs just as much to get a large HDTV for use with a console.

The HDTV you can keep for years and years, even for your PC. Plus it's a TV.
And you don't buy a new one very year or two.

Zardon · Feb 16, 2008, 04:04 PM

the only problem with PC gaming is the warezing. it is really not helping development. Sure 360 games are warezed too, but its a little bit more difficult and not so mainstream.

We would all be in a much worse place without PC games, the technology drives everything forward.

Vikingod · Feb 16, 2008, 05:18 PM

I honestly don't think PC gaming is dying at all. In fact, I would say it's stronger now then ever before. People of all types are becoming more familiar with PC's, which gets them into gaming. Massivly popular games like WoW and the Sims are a great way to introduce people to the PC. Indy games (such as Aquaria, which is great btw) seem to be making a splash within certain circles.

What I'm most interested in, is the new business models the game company's are coming up with to fight piracy. Free downloadable content, no-pay MMO's, deep multiplayer, etc. It's in an early stage, but they are making great efforts to give people incentive to buy the games. This will only get better as time goes on.

**Mousey** · Feb 16, 2008, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmegaRED

Well said. Sure, a PS3 and 360 are great now but in a year or two they'll not be able to keep up with mid range video cards (we could already be at that stage).

I'm confident that with MS, Nvidia and AMD pushing for the success of PC gaming (they make way more from it than any of their consoles) PC gaming will always survive.

Heh thanks Omega.
It's said every single time a new console comes out that "PC Gaming will die with the release of this console" and then sooner or later a new piece of hardware comes out than can bitch-slap the console into submission.

Yes there's warezing, but with services like Windows Live and Steam piracy has been majorly cut down...

What a shame

And all this talk about the cost of upgrading a computer? If you bitch about the cost of upgrading, why are you here, with your most likely modded/custom built rig at DriverHeaven? Why aren't you playing your 360/PS3/Wii and preaching how much it'll kill the PC?

Meh..

BlueMak · Feb 16, 2008, 07:55 PM

Windows Live...meh.

BlueMak · Feb 16, 2008, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousey

And all this talk about the cost of upgrading a computer? If you bitch about the cost of upgrading, why are you here, with your most likely modded/custom built rig at DriverHeaven? Why aren't you playing your 360/PS3/Wii and preaching how much it'll kill the PC?

Meh..

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Who are you talking to?

**Mousey** · Feb 16, 2008, 08:24 PM

lol anyone that seems to worship consoles.
i'm still high on endorphins from the gym, so scuse any randomness

Feb 15, 2008, 07:30 PM	#1
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Feb 15, 2008, 09:03 PM	#2
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,248 Rep Power: 328 System Specs	Wait, I thought that PC gaming keeps dying from the day N64 was released? Every year, PC gaming is DEAD. Meh. Anyway good article I guess. Hundrends of millions of PCs out there and people still say PC gaming is dead... __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

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Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,260 Rep Power: 150 System Specs	the more good games get published, the less each game will sell. Money can only be spend once. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Feb 15, 2008, 11:49 PM	#5
Markius DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,350 Rep Power: 0	sounded like he was trying to convince himself as much as the readers PC gaming is not dead and i cant see it dying any time ever and its not because consoles cant do certain genres or whatever, ppl need to realise that saying keyboard/mouse is better than a pad is pure OPINION. (keep in mind keyboards and mice can be used on consoles, 99% of devs just dont add it to their games. last game i can remember that incorperated it well was quake 3 on dreamcast lol) after they guy stated consoles havent "tapped into" the mmo market he kinda lost any credability in my eyes as the statment is straight up incorrect (for the peeps who dont know, there is and has been for some time a MMO on the 360) __________________ DriverHeavens Aussie... "Lifes tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late"

Feb 15, 2008, 11:57 PM	#6
Mousey Synth's Long Lost Bro Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Web Design Hell Posts: 7,156 Rep Power: 243 System Specs	Consoles age and need a "next-gen" successor to keep the market alive for the company that develops them. Computers can change effortlessly with the times though. PC Gaming will NEVER die, End of. __________________

Feb 15, 2008, 09:50 PM	#3
hohum HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 298 Rep Power: 54	So... Epic release Gears of War for PC, a game that's been out for a year on the 360 already. Besides some extra content, it's basically the same average game with some good graphics. They also release UT3, another rehash of their multiplayer FPS, at around the same time the likes of ET:QW and Team Fortress 2 appear. They then wonder why their sales are naff? Seems to me that they're just bitter, and placing the blame elsewhere.

Feb 16, 2008, 09:00 AM	#8
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,248 Rep Power: 328 System Specs	Guys, let's not forget that you need to pay some serious money (all things considered) to keep having an updated PC over the lifetime of a console. Both platforms have good and bad things about them. I don't understand why some (like some articles that pop up every few months) see this is having to support either of the two. They have and they can continue to co exist. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Feb 16, 2008, 04:04 PM	#11
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	the only problem with PC gaming is the warezing. it is really not helping development. Sure 360 games are warezed too, but its a little bit more difficult and not so mainstream. We would all be in a much worse place without PC games, the technology drives everything forward.

Feb 16, 2008, 05:18 PM	#12
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,187 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	I honestly don't think PC gaming is dying at all. In fact, I would say it's stronger now then ever before. People of all types are becoming more familiar with PC's, which gets them into gaming. Massivly popular games like WoW and the Sims are a great way to introduce people to the PC. Indy games (such as Aquaria, which is great btw) seem to be making a splash within certain circles. What I'm most interested in, is the new business models the game company's are coming up with to fight piracy. Free downloadable content, no-pay MMO's, deep multiplayer, etc. It's in an early stage, but they are making great efforts to give people incentive to buy the games. This will only get better as time goes on. __________________ *How You Can Help DriverHeaven By Using Digg*

Feb 16, 2008, 07:55 PM	#14
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,248 Rep Power: 328 System Specs	Windows Live...meh. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Feb 16, 2008, 08:24 PM	#16
Mousey Synth's Long Lost Bro Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Web Design Hell Posts: 7,156 Rep Power: 243 System Specs	lol anyone that seems to worship consoles. i'm still high on endorphins from the gym, so scuse any randomness __________________