PC gaming, still the best?

Zardon · May 24, 2009, 02:06 PM

Discuss!

BlueMak · May 24, 2009, 02:12 PM

I love my Xbox 360 and its games, also having a lot of fun with the DS Lite. I also own a PSP and a Wii, rarely touch them even when I am near them.
Even so, 90% of my gaming is done on a PC. I just enjoy them more on it (even the multiplatform ones) and the games are cheaper.

comp_ali · May 24, 2009, 02:26 PM

Just cannot imagine FPS or RTS with joystick , may be console is better on football games , racing , rpg but stills a joke to aim and shoot with joysticks.Also the Odd "light" games like Plants vs zombies will fit perfectly on PC more than anything even wii

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Al_Vampyre · May 24, 2009, 03:23 PM

My XBox 360 and Wii hardly ever get used...PC all the way

Stop It · May 24, 2009, 04:30 PM

We're into the part of the console cycle where PC is now by far the superior brother, and will continue to be until Xbox 3/PS4 are revealed.

Aside from the fact that you can now build a PC that can game at 720p+ resolutions at better frame rates than the current consoles for a few hundred quid and of course you can use the excellent 360 pad on PC, there are less and less reasons to play games on consoles if a PC version exists.

Of course if you want to play games at mega resolutions with decent frame rates, free online and awesome customisation/modding communities, you can only look at PC as the platform of choice. Hell, my GTX275 alone probably has more computation power than the PS3 and 360 combined.

vicsrealms · May 24, 2009, 04:49 PM

Only way to play FPS games as far as I'm concerned. Consoles are great for RPG's and some action games (except for enhanced modding and graphics that are just stunning like in the GTA series). Shoot, I have both a PS3 and a 360 elite because I was expecting all these nice RPG's from Sony and the only console RPG I currently own is on my 360 Elite. Hopefully that will change with FF13, but I am going to rent that one first as FF12 kind of turned me away from the FF series.

Mac Daddy · May 24, 2009, 05:16 PM

I voted for the second option we have a PS2,PS3 and Wii here but for certain games like FPS I need to use a keyboard and mouse. The 10 zillion buttons on some of the console controller confuse the hell out of me

|2A|N · May 24, 2009, 06:05 PM

PC gaming has evolved so much over the years. Back in the 80's Atari and Nintendo were innovative and our only choices for gaming and here we are many years later in to the new millennium and now we have mind blowing games and graphics on the PC.

PC will always dominate the consoles market in every aspect IMHO simply because everyone has a PC now days.

**kris23** · May 24, 2009, 06:48 PM

PC gaming FTW

until crysis is playable at max settings on console.... thats gonna be a while

charm_quark · May 24, 2009, 06:48 PM

PC GAMIN just has to be it, not a console fan.. just couldn't get the hang of it

MGaz · May 24, 2009, 09:01 PM

depends on the type of game really.

Racing, has to be a console.

FPS either, but PC better for multi player.

Stratagy is better on the PC.

Even so, theres nothing like the hassle free switch on, sit down in front of your TV type of gaming that a console brings. Consoles are more sociable too! like getting back from the pub.

PC's are very expensive to keep on the go all the time.!

BlueMak · May 24, 2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MGaz

depends on the type of game really.

Racing, has to be a console.

FPS either, but PC better for multi player.

Stratagy is better on the PC.

Even so, theres nothing like the hassle free switch on, sit down in front of your TV type of gaming that a console brings. Consoles are more sociable too! like getting back from the pub.

PC's are very expensive to keep on the go all the time.!

Depends, if you buy a game a year, sure, stick with a console to save money, if you buy many games, you are better off with a PC.

**Mousey** · May 24, 2009, 11:03 PM

PC Gaming has and always will be the dominant format but i still jump on my PS2 a lot to have a go on GTA or some other good games i've got

CDsDontBurn · May 24, 2009, 11:08 PM

due to the affordability, for me it's console > PC. there are a few games i play here and there on PC, but most of my gaming is done from my 360.

it's just too expensive for me to build a new machine (a decent one for gaming) for appx. $1,200 + 1 or 2 games at $50 in order to just keep up with games. on a console, i just buy the console for $300 + 1 or 2 games at $50 each. So, $400 (console) > $1,300 (PC)

**dj_stick** · May 25, 2009, 03:43 AM

never owned a console, probably never will

as for affordability, depending on how many games you purchase a year, you'll probably end up paying more overall with the price difference between platforms getting a console than a mid-range PC

CDsDontBurn · May 25, 2009, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dj_stick

never owned a console, probably never will

as for affordability, depending on how many games you purchase a year, you'll probably end up paying more overall with the price difference between platforms getting a console than a mid-range PC

maybe out over there in in AU. Here in the states, my area at least, the price of PC games are the same as to console games, $50 to $60 depending on the title and how new/old it is.

Stop It · May 25, 2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

maybe out over there in in AU. Here in the states, my area at least, the price of PC games are the same as to console games, $50 to $60 depending on the title and how new/old it is.

Really? In the UK the situation is similar to Australia it seems, PC games generally retail at £30 to start off with while console games start off at £40.

Also, with stuff like Steam, GoG with their weekly offers and many websites put games on stupid special offers on PC much more often, overall TCO does fall, especially if, like me, you buy quite a few games.

Tristanian · Sep 4, 2009, 01:37 PM

PC gaming is the best. At least as far as quality of graphics is concerned. No console can ever keep up with PC graphics. Nowadays however, developers seem to give priority to consoles.
Look at Crysis, Crysis Warhead, Arma II, Empire Total War ... These games are the proof that PC is the best. No console can handle any of these games.

MythicaL · Sep 11, 2009, 02:40 AM

PC gaming will always be the best, no further discussion needed on that.

I still like consoles, but only the older ones. Dreamcast is about the most recent that I'll accept, and anything after that is just bleh to me. Seems a lot of people are growing up with the current-gen games which offer nothing really spectacular (great example of this is Halo), and California's youth culture seems to be based off those stupid games. Yes, I know there are good current games out there, but they don't get as much attention.

EDIT: I think I already posted in this thread before, but oh well!

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · Sep 28, 2009, 11:56 AM

PC gaming is SO Good. Nothing else sums it up. I do love it when you're on your lounge and you get in a few nice even headshots using a 360 in FEAR2, but nothing even comes close to Left 4 Dead whitenuckle multiplayer all day long.

pigdog · Nov 29, 2009, 06:47 AM

I actually get rather worried about the future of PC gaming. Case in point would be COC:MW2. The offering to PC gamers was terrible. The mutiplayer support is just poor and the single player component is less than 5 hours long.

Then there's rockstar and it's disinterest in looking after the PC'ers. It looks like we might never see the DLC on PC.

Platform exclusive's are evil, imho.

iPlayer · Dec 7, 2009, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pigdog

I actually get rather worried about the future of PC gaming. Case in point would be COC:MW2. The offering to PC gamers was terrible. The mutiplayer support is just poor and the single player component is less than 5 hours long.

Then there's rockstar and it's disinterest in looking after the PC'ers. It looks like we might never see the DLC on PC.

Platform exclusive's are evil, imho.

I feel pc games that are actually multi platform releases are being "dumbed down", or rather streamlined to better fit the console market.

pigdog · Dec 7, 2009, 06:17 AM

Yeah, I get sick of reading reviews that mark games down for being a poor porting effort and a lot of that criticism is often made due the "percieved" dumbing down of things like the UI, the inventory etc.

The DLC for GTA4 is example of a different type of Port, or this case, the complete lack of a port - the dreaded platform exclusive deal. It's one that particulary annoys me as it's not as though they wouldn't make a bucket money by selling the DLC to the PC community. Every PC'er I know would buy it!

But then there are winners like Dirt2 which judging by Zard's DX11 review from a couple of days back appears to have gotten the right amount of lovin from Codemasters.

This means both console and PC'ers are happy and so are the dev's because they're making money form the "whole" gaming community.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Dec 7, 2009, 06:35 AM

unfortunately I do give more time to my PS3 than my PC. That's because of a few reasons:

1. 1080p looks pretty good nowadays, to run 1920x1080 my monitor is impossible. I can't afford a bigger monitor nor does my video card want to run a game well at that res (except source engine games)
2. Its the developers that have begun making console to PC ports. WTF
3. Tired of retardedly expensive video cards that are bigger than my playstation, that requires a whole slew of upgrades then get replaced within a few months. I paid over $550 CDN for my 8800GTS, only to live with a defective card. In addition, attrocious customer service from companies like BFG with a lifetime warranty. These video cards need to shrink in size, this is getting ridiculous.
4. Too many buggy releases, too much problems with incompatable hardware. If I have an issue and few do its nearly impossible to fix often due to my hardware config.
5. A lot of my friends have always been console gamers, and now with better multiplayer features its a lot easier to jump and play (wish I had Live!).

If PC games be smoother and more efficient, and probably create some more exclusives I'd play more often. Fallout 3 is better on the PC, but not a game that appeals. However shooters will always be better on the PC, and most RPG and strategy games. Adventure, sports and racing I always have enjoyed more on console (with the exception of NFS). I still love PC games, but developers give it the short end of the stick and graphic card manufacturers need to be more efficient! And they have found a new way to charge money for map packs which they now call "DLC". In addition, they have killed off mods. Nothing like good ol instagib and rocket arena or greatest mod of all: Counter-Strike.

Sorry!

pigdog · Dec 7, 2009, 07:18 AM

I agree with on every point you made, and because of those very points, I no longer consider PC gaming to be just a pick up and play platform. It's more like I'm a hobbyist now; that PC gaming is becoming more of an enthusiast pastiime rather than being a mainstream activity.

In fact sometimes I have more fun figuring out how to get a game to work on my PC than I get from playing the game itself. lol

I believe that there's work being down to bring in standard of game design that unifies all platforms, so that much less of an effort would be needed to customise products in regard to platform delivery, which would pe great.

My understanding is that it is being pursued through the development of DX11, 12 etc, but I may well be delusional.

Does anyone else know anything about about it?

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Dec 7, 2009, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pigdog

I agree with on every point you made. I don't consider PC gaming to be just a pick up and play platform at all, and for thery reasons you make.

It's more like I'm a hobbyist now; that PC gaming is becoming more of an enthusiast pastiime rather than being a mainstream activity.

In fact sometimes I have more fun figuring out how to get a game to work on my PC than I get from playing the game itself. lol

I believe that there's work being down to bring in standard of game design that unifies all platforms, so that much less of an effort would be needed to customise products in regards to platform delivery, which would pe great.

My understanding is that it is being pursued through the development of DX11, 12 etc, but I may well be delusional.

Does anyone else know anything about about it?

i don't know, I think PC gaming hardware doesn't innovation right now, they need to make design simpler and easier. If the hardware didn't get outdated so quick and running new games was garbage it would be a lot more cost effective. all this 40x way SLi is just ridiculous. On top of that, I don't really see much hardcore clan talk like back in the days of Q3 and CS. If anything, more of them are on Live if anything unfortunately.

Sihastru · Dec 13, 2009, 03:10 AM

Spec-wise, I don't see how any current console can even touch a middle-to-high end PC. Playing in 720p or 1080p is nice, but it's nicer in 2560x1600... Most of my console using friends, have jaw dropping moments when they try some of their titles on my PC, and most of them have 32" HD ready TVs. So it's not the 30" of my LCD monitor they are admiring, it's the resolution and the incredible detail they never see when they play on their consoles.

If it wasn't for such a high piracy incidence on the PC side, most game developers would probably port PC games to consoles more and not vice-versa like it's happening now.

Consoles have one big limitation for me, they lack a mouse, sometimes they even lack a keyboard. There are certain types of games that you just can't really play well without a mouse, or without a few extra keyboard maps.

And on a personal note, I use my PC for "real" work, and I find it easy to hit Alt-Tab, or to close an app and double click a game icon, then switching to another "station" (= console in this case).

Console games look good when you play them from a 2-3m distance from the TV, PC games look good when you are in front of the monitor. If you have a 24-30" monitor, there is a much better immersion in the game.

Take for example shooters, the weapon position seems to be originating from your mouse, that you keep in your hand, so it seems that you're actually using the weapon. On a console, the TV is farther from your position, so it is difficult to think of the weapon as if you were holding it in the hand you hold the controller in.

There are many games consoles are 100% good for, but strategy games and shooters are the PCs dominion. It's one thing to point and click and it's something else to "direct" your crosshair at.

DJ BIG T · Dec 13, 2009, 03:16 AM

pc all the way but i do have a wii hooked up to a 50" plasma which its fun to play but not as much as my pc..

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Dec 14, 2009, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sihastru

Spec-wise, I don't see how any current console can even touch a middle-to-high end PC. Playing in 720p or 1080p is nice, but it's nicer in 2560x1600... Most of my console using friends, have jaw dropping moments when they try some of their titles on my PC, and most of them have 32" HD ready TVs. So it's not the 30" of my LCD monitor they are admiring, it's the resolution and the incredible detail they never see when they play on their consoles.

If it wasn't for such a high piracy incidence on the PC side, most game developers would probably port PC games to consoles more and not vice-versa like it's happening now.

Consoles have one big limitation for me, they lack a mouse, sometimes they even lack a keyboard. There are certain types of games that you just can't really play well without a mouse, or without a few extra keyboard maps.

And on a personal note, I use my PC for "real" work, and I find it easy to hit Alt-Tab, or to close an app and double click a game icon, then switching to another "station" (= console in this case).

Console games look good when you play them from a 2-3m distance from the TV, PC games look good when you are in front of the monitor. If you have a 24-30" monitor, there is a much better immersion in the game.

Take for example shooters, the weapon position seems to be originating from your mouse, that you keep in your hand, so it seems that you're actually using the weapon. On a console, the TV is farther from your position, so it is difficult to think of the weapon as if you were holding it in the hand you hold the controller in.

There are many games consoles are 100% good for, but strategy games and shooters are the PCs dominion. It's one thing to point and click and it's something else to "direct" your crosshair at.

you just elaborated on every argument made by PC gamers nowadays.... and its just shooters and strategy unfortunately that have some edge. but graphics aren't everything. Halo proves that, the Wii as well. The only reason shooters work on console is because the game itself is noticeably slowed down so you can aim, there is no way in hell you can pull off the moves like you can in Q3 on a 360 controller. Great, I can alt+tab out of Crysis, then when it crashes due to my forceware drivers or creative drivers having an issue its really annoying. then maybe my issue isn't widespread enough, takes even LONGER for resolution. There's always far more issues with the PC counterparts which limits me and others from jumping in and playing. Its a few games I find that have really good coding and work well. Usually its a product from blizzard, or valve. It surprises me too because PC's are usually the easiest to code for from my knowledge, but I guess trouble shooting based on diff configs is harder. 360's codebase is similar to the PC, which also makes it easier apparently. PS3 won't reach it potential because of it unnecessary complexity of 6+1 cores.

And obviously PC hardware wins, but man to get reasonable performance every year and a half, I have to spend over $350 on a card that makes the FX5800 blowdryer look ridiculous... then add in cost of games. Its just becoming more and more useless. I think the marketplace is looking for simplicity more and more... that's why tightly woven products like the iPhone and 360 are so popular, and windows mobile is a mess. You end up giving up certain things for benefits (cost is flexibilty, given up over to the benefits stability and fun).

buburuza76 · Dec 14, 2009, 08:21 AM

of course pc gaming rocks. because i don`t have nothing else to play on.

View Poll Results: PC gaming, still the best?
Hell yes, nothing to touch it	2,172	52.45%
Yes, but I do like my console	1,026	24.78%
I split gaming time between PC and consoles	838	20.24%
Console more	92	2.22%
Never game on my PC	13	0.31%
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May 24, 2009, 02:06 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	PC gaming, still the best? Discuss!

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BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,240 Rep Power: 326 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? I love my Xbox 360 and its games, also having a lot of fun with the DS Lite. I also own a PSP and a Wii, rarely touch them even when I am near them. Even so, 90% of my gaming is done on a PC. I just enjoy them more on it (even the multiplatform ones) and the games are cheaper. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

May 24, 2009, 02:26 PM	#3
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,441 Rep Power: 331 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? Just cannot imagine FPS or RTS with joystick , may be console is better on football games , racing , rpg but stills a joke to aim and shoot with joysticks.Also the Odd "light" games like Plants vs zombies will fit perfectly on PC more than anything even wii . __________________

May 24, 2009, 03:23 PM	#4
Al_Vampyre HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,532 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? My XBox 360 and Wii hardly ever get used...PC all the way __________________ "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad" - Brian O'Driscoll - Ireland Rugby Team 2009 Grand Slam winning Captain.

May 24, 2009, 04:30 PM	#5
Stop It HHs' Resident Kitty Lover Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Biggleswade, UK Posts: 1,387 Rep Power: 73 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? We're into the part of the console cycle where PC is now by far the superior brother, and will continue to be until Xbox 3/PS4 are revealed. Aside from the fact that you can now build a PC that can game at 720p+ resolutions at better frame rates than the current consoles for a few hundred quid and of course you can use the excellent 360 pad on PC, there are less and less reasons to play games on consoles if a PC version exists. Of course if you want to play games at mega resolutions with decent frame rates, free online and awesome customisation/modding communities, you can only look at PC as the platform of choice. Hell, my GTX275 alone probably has more computation power than the PS3 and 360 combined. __________________ Sig Courtesy of Mousey

May 24, 2009, 04:49 PM	#6
vicsrealms DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas, US Posts: 58 Rep Power: 18 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? Only way to play FPS games as far as I'm concerned. Consoles are great for RPG's and some action games (except for enhanced modding and graphics that are just stunning like in the GTA series). Shoot, I have both a PS3 and a 360 elite because I was expecting all these nice RPG's from Sony and the only console RPG I currently own is on my 360 Elite. Hopefully that will change with FF13, but I am going to rent that one first as FF12 kind of turned me away from the FF series.

May 24, 2009, 05:16 PM	#7
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 78 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? I voted for the second option we have a PS2,PS3 and Wii here but for certain games like FPS I need to use a keyboard and mouse. The 10 zillion buttons on some of the console controller confuse the hell out of me __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

May 24, 2009, 06:05 PM	#8
\|2A\|N SE7EN57 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 353 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? PC gaming has evolved so much over the years. Back in the 80's Atari and Nintendo were innovative and our only choices for gaming and here we are many years later in to the new millennium and now we have mind blowing games and graphics on the PC. PC will always dominate the consoles market in every aspect IMHO simply because everyone has a PC now days.

May 24, 2009, 06:48 PM	#9
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? PC gaming FTW until crysis is playable at max settings on console.... thats gonna be a while __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

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charm_quark incognito Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: BoTsWaNa Posts: 2,415 Rep Power: 130	Re: PC gaming, still the best? PC GAMIN just has to be it, not a console fan.. just couldn't get the hang of it __________________ Three quarks for Muster Mark! Sure he has not got much of a bark And sure any he has it's all beside the mark. —James Joyce, Finnegans Wake

May 24, 2009, 09:01 PM	#11
MGaz All wheel driver! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: five Cylinder Heaven, wales GB Posts: 198 Rep Power: 34 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? depends on the type of game really. Racing, has to be a console. FPS either, but PC better for multi player. Stratagy is better on the PC. Even so, theres nothing like the hassle free switch on, sit down in front of your TV type of gaming that a console brings. Consoles are more sociable too! like getting back from the pub. PC's are very expensive to keep on the go all the time.! __________________ Processor: 7.5 Memory: 7.7 Graphics: 7.2 Gaming Graphics: 7.2 Primary Hard Disk: 5.9 [3DMARK Vantage: 9229] [3DMARK 06: 18365] [3DMARK 03: 46941] [3DMARK 2001 SE: 36059]

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Mousey Synth's Long Lost Bro Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Web Design Hell Posts: 7,156 Rep Power: 243 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? PC Gaming has and always will be the dominant format but i still jump on my PS2 a lot to have a go on GTA or some other good games i've got __________________

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CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? due to the affordability, for me it's console > PC. there are a few games i play here and there on PC, but most of my gaming is done from my 360. it's just too expensive for me to build a new machine (a decent one for gaming) for appx. $1,200 + 1 or 2 games at $50 in order to just keep up with games. on a console, i just buy the console for $300 + 1 or 2 games at $50 each. So, $400 (console) > $1,300 (PC) __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

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Tristanian DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Re: PC gaming, still the best? PC gaming is the best. At least as far as quality of graphics is concerned. No console can ever keep up with PC graphics. Nowadays however, developers seem to give priority to consoles. Look at Crysis, Crysis Warhead, Arma II, Empire Total War ... These games are the proof that PC is the best. No console can handle any of these games.

Sep 11, 2009, 02:40 AM	#19
MythicaL I like computers. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In front of a monitor Posts: 3,399 Rep Power: 87 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? PC gaming will always be the best, no further discussion needed on that. I still like consoles, but only the older ones. Dreamcast is about the most recent that I'll accept, and anything after that is just bleh to me. Seems a lot of people are growing up with the current-gen games which offer nothing really spectacular (great example of this is Halo), and California's youth culture seems to be based off those stupid games. Yes, I know there are good current games out there, but they don't get as much attention. EDIT: I think I already posted in this thread before, but oh well! __________________ Always knew I didn't belong in this world. I wasn't made for this. But I'll never forget those who betrayed me, and those who never failed my trust. Last edited by MythicaL; Sep 11, 2009 at 02:57 PM.

Sep 28, 2009, 11:56 AM	#20
~~RE III - Frankie~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 0	Re: PC gaming, still the best? PC gaming is SO Good. Nothing else sums it up. I do love it when you're on your lounge and you get in a few nice even headshots using a 360 in FEAR2, but nothing even comes close to Left 4 Dead whitenuckle multiplayer all day long.

Nov 29, 2009, 06:47 AM	#21
pigdog HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 471 Rep Power: 55 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? I actually get rather worried about the future of PC gaming. Case in point would be COC:MW2. The offering to PC gamers was terrible. The mutiplayer support is just poor and the single player component is less than 5 hours long. Then there's rockstar and it's disinterest in looking after the PC'ers. It looks like we might never see the DLC on PC. Platform exclusive's are evil, imho. __________________

Dec 7, 2009, 06:17 AM	#23
pigdog HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 471 Rep Power: 55 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? Yeah, I get sick of reading reviews that mark games down for being a poor porting effort and a lot of that criticism is often made due the "percieved" dumbing down of things like the UI, the inventory etc. The DLC for GTA4 is example of a different type of Port, or this case, the complete lack of a port - the dreaded platform exclusive deal. It's one that particulary annoys me as it's not as though they wouldn't make a bucket money by selling the DLC to the PC community. Every PC'er I know would buy it! But then there are winners like Dirt2 which judging by Zard's DX11 review from a couple of days back appears to have gotten the right amount of lovin from Codemasters. This means both console and PC'ers are happy and so are the dev's because they're making money form the "whole" gaming community. __________________

Dec 7, 2009, 06:35 AM	#24
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,706 Rep Power: 105 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? unfortunately I do give more time to my PS3 than my PC. That's because of a few reasons: 1. 1080p looks pretty good nowadays, to run 1920x1080 my monitor is impossible. I can't afford a bigger monitor nor does my video card want to run a game well at that res (except source engine games) 2. Its the developers that have begun making console to PC ports. WTF 3. Tired of retardedly expensive video cards that are bigger than my playstation, that requires a whole slew of upgrades then get replaced within a few months. I paid over $550 CDN for my 8800GTS, only to live with a defective card. In addition, attrocious customer service from companies like BFG with a lifetime warranty. These video cards need to shrink in size, this is getting ridiculous. 4. Too many buggy releases, too much problems with incompatable hardware. If I have an issue and few do its nearly impossible to fix often due to my hardware config. 5. A lot of my friends have always been console gamers, and now with better multiplayer features its a lot easier to jump and play (wish I had Live!). If PC games be smoother and more efficient, and probably create some more exclusives I'd play more often. Fallout 3 is better on the PC, but not a game that appeals. However shooters will always be better on the PC, and most RPG and strategy games. Adventure, sports and racing I always have enjoyed more on console (with the exception of NFS). I still love PC games, but developers give it the short end of the stick and graphic card manufacturers need to be more efficient! And they have found a new way to charge money for map packs which they now call "DLC". In addition, they have killed off mods. Nothing like good ol instagib and rocket arena or greatest mod of all: Counter-Strike. Sorry! __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Dec 7, 2009, 07:18 AM	#25
pigdog HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 471 Rep Power: 55 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? I agree with on every point you made, and because of those very points, I no longer consider PC gaming to be just a pick up and play platform. It's more like I'm a hobbyist now; that PC gaming is becoming more of an enthusiast pastiime rather than being a mainstream activity. In fact sometimes I have more fun figuring out how to get a game to work on my PC than I get from playing the game itself. lol I believe that there's work being down to bring in standard of game design that unifies all platforms, so that much less of an effort would be needed to customise products in regard to platform delivery, which would pe great. My understanding is that it is being pursued through the development of DX11, 12 etc, but I may well be delusional. Does anyone else know anything about about it? __________________

Dec 13, 2009, 03:10 AM	#27
Sihastru Never been clicked Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 430 Rep Power: 44 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? Spec-wise, I don't see how any current console can even touch a middle-to-high end PC. Playing in 720p or 1080p is nice, but it's nicer in 2560x1600... Most of my console using friends, have jaw dropping moments when they try some of their titles on my PC, and most of them have 32" HD ready TVs. So it's not the 30" of my LCD monitor they are admiring, it's the resolution and the incredible detail they never see when they play on their consoles. If it wasn't for such a high piracy incidence on the PC side, most game developers would probably port PC games to consoles more and not vice-versa like it's happening now. Consoles have one big limitation for me, they lack a mouse, sometimes they even lack a keyboard. There are certain types of games that you just can't really play well without a mouse, or without a few extra keyboard maps. And on a personal note, I use my PC for "real" work, and I find it easy to hit Alt-Tab, or to close an app and double click a game icon, then switching to another "station" (= console in this case). Console games look good when you play them from a 2-3m distance from the TV, PC games look good when you are in front of the monitor. If you have a 24-30" monitor, there is a much better immersion in the game. Take for example shooters, the weapon position seems to be originating from your mouse, that you keep in your hand, so it seems that you're actually using the weapon. On a console, the TV is farther from your position, so it is difficult to think of the weapon as if you were holding it in the hand you hold the controller in. There are many games consoles are 100% good for, but strategy games and shooters are the PCs dominion. It's one thing to point and click and it's something else to "direct" your crosshair at.

Dec 13, 2009, 03:16 AM	#28
DJ BIG T DH FaN BoY Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ORLANDO,FL Posts: 930 Rep Power: 67 System Specs	Re: PC gaming, still the best? pc all the way but i do have a wii hooked up to a 50" plasma which its fun to play but not as much as my pc.. __________________

Dec 14, 2009, 08:21 AM	#30
buburuza76 HH member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Where you can`t make a life Posts: 345 Rep Power: 25	Re: PC gaming, still the best? of course pc gaming rocks. because i don`t have nothing else to play on.