Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising (PC) Review @ GH

Zardon · Oct 6, 2009, 10:01 AM

Read The Review Here
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Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising is one of the finest tactical first person war games released in recent years because while other titles such as Ghost Recon are linear by nature Codemasters have created an open world environment with strong focus on giving the gamers (you guys) total freedom of choice. Excited? you should be.

*ASUS UK* · Oct 6, 2009, 11:39 AM

Awesome awesome awesome awesome.

I've been looking forward to this all year, roll on Friday!

Erroneus · Oct 6, 2009, 01:46 PM

Bad timing for this game, they should have released it two weeks ago, now it gets to close to many other big titles.

Looks decent though, might take a look at it next year

OmegaRED · Oct 6, 2009, 02:46 PM

So is this going to be the game that Arma2 wasn't? If it really does manage to pull off excellent AI, realistic combat, bugfree gameplay and smooth performance it will go to the top of my gaming list.

I really enjoy the cinematic experience of the CoD series and the open world of Arma2 but I do dislike the ultra realism aspect if the rest of the game can't hold up. It sounds like Dragon Rising gets it right but I don't want to get my hopes up just yet. Much as I trust DH reviews I'm gonna need high scores across the board to get truly pumped

From the screens this kind of looks like the Stalker engine, but Wikipedia says it uses the GRiD/Dirt engine, which I loved, so I hope this runs really smooth when maxed out.

Zardon · Oct 6, 2009, 04:27 PM

I had a quick play of our review copy earlier on. very impressive looking game, have to say.

BlueMak · Oct 6, 2009, 05:38 PM

A bit disappointed that there is no free form single player game, but only 11 linear missions, even though you can deal with them any way you like.

Sounds to me like the people from Arma2 and OF2 need to work together one day...

Zardon · Oct 6, 2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueMak

A bit disappointed that there is no free form single player game, but only 11 linear missions, even though you can deal with them any way you like.

Not sure what you mean. When you say no free form single player, what exactly does 'free form single player' mean to you?

BlueMak · Oct 6, 2009, 06:34 PM

I don't have Arma2, but from the reviews, I guess something like that.
But, just in case, to be able to choose what your missions will be, etc. Not only how to deal with them.

Zardon · Oct 7, 2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueMak

I don't have Arma2, but from the reviews, I guess something like that.
But, just in case, to be able to choose what your missions will be, etc. Not only how to deal with them.

Basically you don't want a single player campaign based mission then, just a single player map editor to make your own objectives. That actually sounds very unappealing to me, im far too lazy to sit making up my own missions - I want to jump into a single player game and play what the developers came up with. Interesting feedback though.

isaak · Oct 7, 2009, 01:46 PM

Used to have the original on the school computers, by far my favourite game. I even made my dad buy it from a store

This one looks interesting, I havent heard much of it before this I'll admit.

BlueMak · Oct 7, 2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

Basically you don't want a single player campaign based mission then, just a single player map editor to make your own objectives. That actually sounds very unappealing to me, im far too lazy to sit making up my own missions - I want to jump into a single player game and play what the developers came up with. Interesting feedback though.

Yes and no. I am not talking about a map editor to make missions like the flight sims of old that had no dynamic campaign and tried to fix things by giving such an editor. I am talking about a dynamic world/war where you can choose objectives depending how the war progresses. So, I guess, like some of the good dynamic campaigns in flight sims.

Thank you, glad to give input.

R0CKY · Oct 7, 2009, 09:55 PM

A couple of things about the review...

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of the finest tactical first person war games released in recent years because while other titles such as Ghost Recon are linear by nature

Not to nitpick, but Ghost Recon is not linear, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, has been criticised for being liner but Ghost Recon (the original) cannot. Just a small point

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with strong focus on giving the gamers (you guys) total freedom of choice

Apart from your team being tethered to a zone to restrict free movement and the total omission of being able to choose your own kit/loadout you mean?

This is an exciting release, but the tether and lack of weapon selection are pretty severe restrictions (that only came to light a few weeks before release), and don't seem to get a mention in the review at all...?

Zardon · Oct 7, 2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by R0CKY

A couple of things about the review...

Not to nitpick, but Ghost Recon is not linear, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, has been criticised for being liner but Ghost Recon (the original) cannot. Just a small point

And you are absolutely right, i hold my hand up to this during the editing phase as i omitted that from the text by accident. I have appended the review as John originally wrote it. Blame old age, I do

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Apart from your team being tethered to a zone to restrict free movement and the total omission of being able to choose your own kit/loadout you mean?

This is an exciting release, but the tether and lack of weapon selection are pretty severe restrictions (that only came to light a few weeks before release), and don't seem to get a mention in the review at all...?

I will get feedback from John about these, I know he mentioned to me that the loadouts were predefined but it didn't really bother him. I am guessing thats why he didnt mention it, however I agree, it should have been addressed.

BlueMak · Oct 7, 2009, 10:16 PM

Hmm, more and more it sounds like a more sim-y version of CoD. Not good.

clanman · Oct 7, 2009, 10:21 PM

eh? whats wrong with COD. a more simlike version of that would be great. Especially with the online features this one seems to support. I don't get your point about the open world thing either, just sounds to me like you are determined not to like it before even trying a demo or something.

BlueMak · Oct 7, 2009, 11:32 PM

If you don't get what I am saying, there is no point in my trying to explain it.
It's ok.
BTW, I didn't say there was anything wrong with CoD.

Alex · Oct 7, 2009, 11:57 PM

The game sounds really fun to me. I don't tend to analyse games that much mind you. I always try a demo first, no review can tell me if I will like it, they just hint at certain things I might like about it. This looks very promising.

Partizan · Oct 8, 2009, 02:04 AM

Well I've been playing it for couple of hours and decided it's not worth my time. Why? It's not realistic and has some really annoying things:

- no left/right leaning
- can't remove crosshair
- can't look around with my mouse when driving a vehicle
- commanding your team is awkward (no way to give order to a teammate to blow something up, or at least I didn't find it)

Oct 6, 2009, 10:01 AM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising (PC) Review @ GH Read The Review Here ________________ Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising is one of the finest tactical first person war games released in recent years because while other titles such as Ghost Recon are linear by nature Codemasters have created an open world environment with strong focus on giving the gamers (you guys) total freedom of choice. Excited? you should be.

Oct 6, 2009, 11:39 AM	#2
ASUS UK ASUS Staff Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 27 Rep Power: 29 System Specs	Re: Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising (PC) Review @ GH Awesome awesome awesome awesome. I've been looking forward to this all year, roll on Friday!

Oct 6, 2009, 01:46 PM	#3
Erroneus Get off my lawn! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 13,343 Rep Power: 114 System Specs	Re: Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising (PC) Review @ GH Bad timing for this game, they should have released it two weeks ago, now it gets to close to many other big titles. Looks decent though, might take a look at it next year __________________

Oct 6, 2009, 02:46 PM	#4
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,626 Rep Power: 171 System Specs	Re: Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising (PC) Review @ GH So is this going to be the game that Arma2 wasn't? If it really does manage to pull off excellent AI, realistic combat, bugfree gameplay and smooth performance it will go to the top of my gaming list. I really enjoy the cinematic experience of the CoD series and the open world of Arma2 but I do dislike the ultra realism aspect if the rest of the game can't hold up. It sounds like Dragon Rising gets it right but I don't want to get my hopes up just yet. Much as I trust DH reviews I'm gonna need high scores across the board to get truly pumped From the screens this kind of looks like the Stalker engine, but Wikipedia says it uses the GRiD/Dirt engine, which I loved, so I hope this runs really smooth when maxed out. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Oct 6, 2009, 04:27 PM	Thread Starter #5
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	Re: Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising (PC) Review @ GH I had a quick play of our review copy earlier on. very impressive looking game, have to say.

Oct 6, 2009, 05:38 PM	#6
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,248 Rep Power: 328 System Specs	Re: Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising (PC) Review @ GH A bit disappointed that there is no free form single player game, but only 11 linear missions, even though you can deal with them any way you like. Sounds to me like the people from Arma2 and OF2 need to work together one day... __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Oct 6, 2009, 06:34 PM	#8
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,248 Rep Power: 328 System Specs	Re: Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising (PC) Review @ GH I don't have Arma2, but from the reviews, I guess something like that. But, just in case, to be able to choose what your missions will be, etc. Not only how to deal with them. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Oct 7, 2009, 01:46 PM	#10
isaak HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,253 Rep Power: 108 System Specs	Re: Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising (PC) Review @ GH Used to have the original on the school computers, by far my favourite game. I even made my dad buy it from a store This one looks interesting, I havent heard much of it before this I'll admit.

Oct 7, 2009, 10:16 PM	#14
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,248 Rep Power: 328 System Specs	Re: Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising (PC) Review @ GH Hmm, more and more it sounds like a more sim-y version of CoD. Not good. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Oct 7, 2009, 10:21 PM	#15
clanman DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 152 Rep Power: 32	Re: Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising (PC) Review @ GH eh? whats wrong with COD. a more simlike version of that would be great. Especially with the online features this one seems to support. I don't get your point about the open world thing either, just sounds to me like you are determined not to like it before even trying a demo or something.

Oct 7, 2009, 11:32 PM	#16
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,248 Rep Power: 328 System Specs	Re: Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising (PC) Review @ GH If you don't get what I am saying, there is no point in my trying to explain it. It's ok. BTW, I didn't say there was anything wrong with CoD. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Oct 7, 2009, 11:57 PM	#17
Alex Driverheaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 260 Rep Power: 43	Re: Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising (PC) Review @ GH The game sounds really fun to me. I don't tend to analyse games that much mind you. I always try a demo first, no review can tell me if I will like it, they just hint at certain things I might like about it. This looks very promising.

Oct 8, 2009, 02:04 AM	#18
Partizan Fun loving criminal Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 1,182 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	Re: Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising (PC) Review @ GH Well I've been playing it for couple of hours and decided it's not worth my time. Why? It's not realistic and has some really annoying things: - no left/right leaning - can't remove crosshair - can't look around with my mouse when driving a vehicle - commanding your team is awkward (no way to give order to a teammate to blow something up, or at least I didn't find it) __________________ Live and let live!